Tip: make the spring two turns. To do this, simply place the 3 components in place (with the key closed) and then correctly insert the other side of the body by turning two anticlockwise before closing. Do not fully tighten the screw under the logo.
Because of this video now I understand how to replace fob. Only item not shown here would be the control board needed, to be removed and inserted in new fob. Mines had two plastic pins holding it in place and took some patients to get board out and insert in new fob.
After swapping the PCB board over, assembling everything, the car will not start with this new key fob. I don't know where the transponder chip is located in the key for the year 2013 Kia Cee'd. Any ideas? Oops! I have just answered my own question by looking more closely at the bits I broke apart yesterday! The transponder is located on the top-left edge of the back cover when looking at the Kia symbol the correct way up. So in this video it is under the securing rubber pin which is shown at 20:48. I will try to remove it tomorrow. It looks like a magnet with a little red paint smudged over part of it (in my case). It is surrounded by quite a bit of plastic so should be another interesting challenge! The remote central locking, the boot, etc all work perfectly and the car tries to start but the engine will not stay on. Basically, everything works in the car with the key in the ignition but when the engine kicks in, it will simply not stay on and keep running. I can only see a minor scratch on the PCB when my hacksaw went close to it at some point. The scratch has not caused a break in the track on that part of the PCB and there were no components on that side of the PCB. I used a small hacksaw to try to cut along the lines that had been glued together. When I eventually managed to cut and pull the fob apart, I realised there was a small hole in the PCB that they had moulded the last piece through at the bottom of the PCB. It secures the board in place but that last bit of plastic had to be delicately cut with a razor blade because trying to pull the plastic out of the hole it had been moulded through on the PCB would have probably broken the PCB. Oh and for the metal key ring part at the bottom of the fob, the easiest way to remove it is to put a small screwdriver into the part for the keyring and then bend the screwdriver downwards so that the top part moves away from the fob and hence it lifts that shiny key ring metal upwards. That also causes it to come away from the top groove where it has been pushed through to secure the opposite side of the 3 buttons (see 9:27 of this video). I managed to use the heated end of a knife to melt and slide away most of the plastic around the transponder. Without doing that, the transponder would not fit into the space available in new key fob I bought on eBay. I actually had to cut away a few ridges in the new key fob as well in the area for transponder because I hadn't managed to reduce the excess plastic around the transponder enough. The very final step was getting my key blade itself into the new swivel mechanism of the new key fob. Instead of getting a locksmith to cut a copy of my key, I decided to use a metal punch to push out the pin that secures the base of my new blank blade. That was easy enough. However, pushing out the pin in the original Kia key was really tough. I had to hammer it several times and also tried using a nail while resting the key on an adjustable spanner to ensure the pin can drop out on the opposite side. I finally pushed it out and to insert the base back into the swivel base mechanism, I simply had to hammer the end of the original key until it was secured in the swivel base. That's because the original key's base was slightly thicker than the hole in the new key fob (15:53). Luckily the end of the key wasn't badly damaged and the hole for the pin didn't align perfectly so I haven't replaced the pin. The key blade is jammed in the swivel base securely so no doubt it will stay in place. I did 2 anticlockwise turns of the spring in the swivel base (21:04) for a more powerful swing out of the key when I press the release button. A month or so later after assembling the spring in the swivel base and putting the PCB in place with the battery and everything, all works perfectly with no issues.
READ ENTIRE COMMENT If you are trying to repair flipping of key/loose or no tension of the flipping key, just don't bother opening it with so much care. Remove the screw, flip the key to open position and then Take nose plier, insert it in the empty slot of the key, press the plier, basically u will be breaking the plastic locks and that's the only way to do it. The internal component of the spring mechanism is broken and only solution is to buy new fob and just transfer all the components from old key to new key, don't forget to transfer transponder, it is the main component which communicates with your car, it looks like piece of plastic, so don't throw away old key components until u make sure the new key works. This key is hard to disassemble because it is not designed to be repaired. The upper part of the key with the KIA logo is glued with the bottom part(the one with buttons) of the key. This might be done for waterproofing or just to make key repair impossible.
This is not true! Of course it can be done - I did it myself! First you remove the battery, then: 1- if there is a bolt under the glued KIA logo, unscrew it; 2- under the battery socket in my case there were two very small bolts, which I unscrewed as well; 3- right at the base of the blade with a wide screwdriver, carefully push and the two parts of the housing separate! Then continue according to the problem you have to solve! Good luck!
Sorry for that, It was extremely difficult to do, I believe it is not designed to be disassembled at all. Please If you found a better way let us know :-)
I'm watching this video now and it was really hard to find one on the same topic so thank you for doing it but not sure if you've done any others like it but it's really infuriating having you just out of shot all the time. I can deal with the silent stuff but just when I think it's getting interesting you disappear out of view 😂
Most likely, where the battery slot is, after you remove it, there are two small bolts that the author of the video did not unscrew and therefore had difficulty opening the two parts! Good luck!
Good video, I just feel you like it woulda been better with sound but then again idk but if you woulda learned how first and then made a video showing us exactly wat to do. But instead i felt like we just learned how to do it together. lol
@@MazinJabarin lol but just for your future info ,, it took me one minute to replace the key blade ,, just push the rivet out ( pin ) replace the blade then push the river or pin back in ,,, as simple as that 😂
It was really hard to do, specially if you do it first time and no one done it before, unless you need to replace the board, don't do it. You can replace the mechanical key without complete disassembly. Sorry mate for not editing the video, at that time I just want it to be done and keep it real.
You need a new remote with key-insert and (cars locksmith), he should contact KIA to obtain the code for key cut and then he will use a programming kit to reprogram your new key to the car. Keep looking for your key, if you find it, you can add it to the new key but you must have both at the time of re-programming.
If you don't have the spare key you have to get a locksmith to unlock the car, contact factory for key replacement, make a mechanical key, reprogram the car with new keys. otherwise if you have a spare key, the locksmith will cost less to create a second spare key and reprogram the car (you need all keys with you).
Sorry to hear that, I know it is very frustrating, I still believe it is not designed to be taken apart. If you still have the broken parts, try to glue it.
@@MazinJabarin oh I don't blame you at all! I was just letting the world know how bad these fobs suck haha. It's built just like the car... Plastic and glue. I've got a new shell coming tomorrow!
No podía por ningún lado, te mereces el like por compartir, muchas gracias
You don't need sound to understand this video, just eyes and a brain lol. Very helpful, thanks!
Tip: make the spring two turns. To do this, simply place the 3 components in place (with the key closed) and then correctly insert the other side of the body by turning two anticlockwise before closing. Do not fully tighten the screw under the logo.
Thank you. Very helpful!
@@WoWdropzone I'm glad it help you!
Because of this video now I understand how to replace fob. Only item not shown here would be the control board needed, to be removed and inserted in new fob. Mines had two plastic pins holding it in place and took some patients to get board out and insert in new fob.
I'm surprised, it's easier than I thought to change the battery in the remote. Thanks!
Very helpful indeed! Thank you! I purchased a new fob through amazon and needed help with disassembling so this was great! :D
Glad it helped!
Thank you! I searched far too long for that little screw 😅
i don't even have a screw!!!
I learned how to change fob internals but watching video was like watching two racoons fight over a pack of hot dogs.
😂😂😂😂
Now that's funny....😂😂....and true!!
Wow. Glad I watched video before ordering new fob. Damn!
After swapping the PCB board over, assembling everything, the car will not start with this new key fob. I don't know where the transponder chip is located in the key for the year 2013 Kia Cee'd. Any ideas? Oops! I have just answered my own question by looking more closely at the bits I broke apart yesterday! The transponder is located on the top-left edge of the back cover when looking at the Kia symbol the correct way up. So in this video it is under the securing rubber pin which is shown at 20:48. I will try to remove it tomorrow. It looks like a magnet with a little red paint smudged over part of it (in my case). It is surrounded by quite a bit of plastic so should be another interesting challenge!
The remote central locking, the boot, etc all work perfectly and the car tries to start but the engine will not stay on. Basically, everything works in the car with the key in the ignition but when the engine kicks in, it will simply not stay on and keep running. I can only see a minor scratch on the PCB when my hacksaw went close to it at some point. The scratch has not caused a break in the track on that part of the PCB and there were no components on that side of the PCB.
I used a small hacksaw to try to cut along the lines that had been glued together. When I eventually managed to cut and pull the fob apart, I realised there was a small hole in the PCB that they had moulded the last piece through at the bottom of the PCB. It secures the board in place but that last bit of plastic had to be delicately cut with a razor blade because trying to pull the plastic out of the hole it had been moulded through on the PCB would have probably broken the PCB. Oh and for the metal key ring part at the bottom of the fob, the easiest way to remove it is to put a small screwdriver into the part for the keyring and then bend the screwdriver downwards so that the top part moves away from the fob and hence it lifts that shiny key ring metal upwards. That also causes it to come away from the top groove where it has been pushed through to secure the opposite side of the 3 buttons (see 9:27 of this video).
I managed to use the heated end of a knife to melt and slide away most of the plastic around the transponder. Without doing that, the transponder would not fit into the space available in new key fob I bought on eBay. I actually had to cut away a few ridges in the new key fob as well in the area for transponder because I hadn't managed to reduce the excess plastic around the transponder enough.
The very final step was getting my key blade itself into the new swivel mechanism of the new key fob. Instead of getting a locksmith to cut a copy of my key, I decided to use a metal punch to push out the pin that secures the base of my new blank blade. That was easy enough. However, pushing out the pin in the original Kia key was really tough. I had to hammer it several times and also tried using a nail while resting the key on an adjustable spanner to ensure the pin can drop out on the opposite side. I finally pushed it out and to insert the base back into the swivel base mechanism, I simply had to hammer the end of the original key until it was secured in the swivel base. That's because the original key's base was slightly thicker than the hole in the new key fob (15:53). Luckily the end of the key wasn't badly damaged and the hole for the pin didn't align perfectly so I haven't replaced the pin. The key blade is jammed in the swivel base securely so no doubt it will stay in place. I did 2 anticlockwise turns of the spring in the swivel base (21:04) for a more powerful swing out of the key when I press the release button. A month or so later after assembling the spring in the swivel base and putting the PCB in place with the battery and everything, all works perfectly with no issues.
READ ENTIRE COMMENT
If you are trying to repair flipping of key/loose or no tension of the flipping key, just don't bother opening it with so much care. Remove the screw, flip the key to open position and then Take nose plier, insert it in the empty slot of the key, press the plier, basically u will be breaking the plastic locks and that's the only way to do it. The internal component of the spring mechanism is broken and only solution is to buy new fob and just transfer all the components from old key to new key, don't forget to transfer transponder, it is the main component which communicates with your car, it looks like piece of plastic, so don't throw away old key components until u make sure the new key works. This key is hard to disassemble because it is not designed to be repaired. The upper part of the key with the KIA logo is glued with the bottom part(the one with buttons) of the key. This might be done for waterproofing or just to make key repair impossible.
This is not true! Of course it can be done - I did it myself! First you remove the battery, then: 1- if there is a bolt under the glued KIA logo, unscrew it; 2- under the battery socket in my case there were two very small bolts, which I unscrewed as well; 3- right at the base of the blade with a wide screwdriver, carefully push and the two parts of the housing separate! Then continue according to the problem you have to solve! Good luck!
Thank you very much for your explanation. And for the tip of making two turns.
That was extremely painful to watch. I couldn't get past the first 7 minutes of silent, nothing. There has to be an easier way?
Sorry for that, It was extremely difficult to do, I believe it is not designed to be disassembled at all.
Please If you found a better way let us know :-)
@@MazinJabarin th-cam.com/video/8tUowgZ8eSw/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, keep in mind this is different type.
@@msdee7444
The key in your link, is for old Ceed 2010, i think.
This is the key for later model Sportage.
It is not designed to be repaired.
@@msdee7444 this isn't the same key. Your link is much easier to open... I'm having as much difficulty as the video poster was.
wow... Thanks I just change my battery and it works now.
I was surprised on how easy it was to replace the battery in the remote...
I'm watching this video now and it was really hard to find one on the same topic so thank you for doing it but not sure if you've done any others like it but it's really infuriating having you just out of shot all the time. I can deal with the silent stuff but just when I think it's getting interesting you disappear out of view 😂
it was experiment and I am not doing it again 😂, I had to remove the sound (sorry for that).
They make the cars easy to steal but for the insert key is like nearly impossible to get out
thank you, this videos helped me to open my control, it was really hard....!!!
Glad it helped!
My key fob doesn’t have a screw under the Kia logo sticker. But it’s impossible to separate the fob. Any tips?
Most likely, where the battery slot is, after you remove it, there are two small bolts that the author of the video did not unscrew and therefore had difficulty opening the two parts! Good luck!
J’ai pas de vis derrière comment je fait j’arrive à l’enlever j’ai pas envie de le casser
Good video, I just feel you like it woulda been better with sound but then again idk but if you woulda learned how first and then made a video showing us exactly wat to do. But instead i felt like we just learned how to do it together. lol
Is there a video showing how to replace the mechanical key without disassembling the fob?
Watch from 15:30 to 16:38
Asking the right questions!
was there a transponder chip in the fob?
I don't think so, it was a simple board and the mechanical key was a plain metal.
Yes. There's always one glued in the top corner of the larger plastic
Before trying this. Try some electronic cleaner spray. I washed mine and it stopped working. I used electronic cleaner spray and it works again
It is that difficult?
Yes, If you Just want to change the metal part No it is not hard.
This must be your first time ever doing it
and last time 😂 ...
@@MazinJabarin lol but just for your future info ,, it took me one minute to replace the key blade ,, just push the rivet out ( pin ) replace the blade then push the river or pin back in ,,, as simple as that 😂
You did it 1st time?
Yes, it was first time and will never do it again 🤣
hit the butten for your spare key dummy
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Ffs, like watching paint dry !!
It was really hard to do, specially if you do it first time and no one done it before, unless you need to replace the board, don't do it.
You can replace the mechanical key without complete disassembly.
Sorry mate for not editing the video, at that time I just want it to be done and keep it real.
Vu la difficulté qu'il a à l'ouvrir, je comprends les presque 25 minutes du clip !
Où se trouve le secours
You need a new remote with key-insert and (cars locksmith), he should contact KIA to obtain the code for key cut and then he will use a programming kit to reprogram your new key to the car.
Keep looking for your key, if you find it, you can add it to the new key but you must have both at the time of re-programming.
They did a more engineering on this damn key then they did on the ignition to keep these vehicles from being stolen 🙄. Ridiculous.
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Super easy
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No se escucha nada🤷♀️
Sorry, I had to remove the sound.
No sound.
Sorry, ... will consider voice in future posts.
thanks
Dont do it. this design relies on a danty metal washer with grooves that wears out. save time nd buy new one
Agree, mechanical key is OK to replace and doesn't take time (without disassemble), otherwise just get a new one.
Thank
To much
Indeed
One of the worst.
Awful design
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If you don't have the spare key you have to get a locksmith to unlock the car, contact factory for key replacement, make a mechanical key, reprogram the car with new keys. otherwise if you have a spare key, the locksmith will cost less to create a second spare key and reprogram the car (you need all keys with you).
Sound would have been cool. Completely destroyed my fob. It did not come apart on the side like this video. Just shattered when I tried.
Sorry to hear that, I know it is very frustrating, I still believe it is not designed to be taken apart.
If you still have the broken parts, try to glue it.
@@MazinJabarin oh I don't blame you at all! I was just letting the world know how bad these fobs suck haha. It's built just like the car... Plastic and glue.
I've got a new shell coming tomorrow!
Я с детского сада это знал
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