2022 Yamaha YZF-R7 First Ride
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- We get it. You’re upset. How could Yamaha possibly perform something as sacrilegious as this? The name YZF-R7 belongs to one of the most iconic motorcycles in Yamaha’s history. A 750cc screaming inline-Four that was basically purpose-built for racing, with looks that have stood the test of time, the original R7 is a legend. To put it on this - on this - is simply unforgivable.
Are we right? Does the description above apply to you? We have news for you: You’re probably not Yamaha’s target audience with the new, 2022 YZF-R7. In fact, the new R7’s target audience were literally babies when Noriyuki Haga was sliding the old R7 all over the world chasing a World Superbike title. That was 20 years ago, people. It’s time to move on. If it weren’t for all the backlash about the name, today’s crop of up-and-coming sportbike riders probably wouldn’t have even known about the original R7.
Easily the most controversial new model of 2021, the certain uproar over calling it R7 certainly wasn’t lost on the folks from Yamaha when it came time to pick a name. But there’s a method to this madness, and to understand the thought process behind the name is to understand the sportbike world since July of 2008. Watch the video and allow MO's road test editor and resident fast guy Troy Siahaan to explain.
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I really think this R7 was a genius decision from Yamaha. If you're into sport bikes and want to take your bike to a track day you'd either have to take an r3 or an r6. Thats a very big leap and like he stated in the video alot of people wont even use the r6 where its meant to be used in those high rpms. Im hoping this bike is a stepping stone for alot of people. I look forward to picking one up some day.
300cc superbikes are pointless…
Yamaha please bring a R9 with the look of the R6. Thank you very much!
R6 Is A living legendary Bike❣️🤞
I don't think they'll do that as it might cannabalise the R6 sales
@@FACTOTUM_55 R6 has gone to the disco my friend. No sales to cannibalize.
Agreed, a twin will never appeal to ex-four cylinder riders...
@@lorquet21 an r9 would
Everyone is now waiting for the R9, having the MT09 as a basis with its alloy frame and better suspension is a perfect platform to build a sport bike from.
Exactly my thoughts!
Cbr900rr killer I hope
Just buy an r1
@@bfarm44 just sold my r1 for a 2022 r7.
I'll let you know if I was a good decision
It's gonna be priced too close to the R1 to justify a purchase, at best, it'll be a replacement for the R6, but used R6s are already floating on the market and make the same horsepower.
This is one of the bikes that lots of riders have been asking for through the years, when you read the comments on many (FZ)MT-07 videos, and other vids where viewers comment about how they love the middleweight supersport package but don't want an i4 with over 100-hp.
With that price, they are going to sell lots of R7's.
Agreed. This thing will be perfect for mountain carving and in the hands of good riders will still dust the whining kids in here on their 600s on a track day.
That part!
Agreed! I track my 2019 KTM 390 duke & its a blast to out pace bikes with a lot more HP! The R7 looks like simple fun, just might add it to my garage.
@@richardm7026 Wait for the RC750 from CFmoto/KTM partnership.
@@remigusker6024 doubt it kid, and remember the r6 is a smaller displacement. So it has the handicap. Cylinder count don't matter...
I really love this R7. Perfect for me as a beginner rider. Not too much power, affordable, looks great. I was looking for a bike for street rides and that can be used on track occasionally. This is perfect for me.
Yup, plus, it will take YEARS to truly master and "outgrow" this bike, if you ever really can, anyways. Perfect do it all bike. Definitely getting one.
@Diz Zkl i don't get your point. pls explain.
@@winner1338 in other parts of the world you wouldn’t be able to start on such a bike. It’d have to be something like a 125cc first
@@m_moves I'm from Europe and i did start on 1000cc bike. To be honest, waste of money. Way too much power and didn't use what the bike was meant for. This R7 should be fine for me.
@@winner1338 yeah, I don’t have a restriction here in Canada either but started on an r3 even though I really wanted the r6 (still do) but i know it would be wasted here, can’t really open it up unless you’re really up there in the rpms and at that point you’re double the limit lol R7 is a perfect option for the street
Say I if you have ever even ridden the old r7. The guy keeps talking about how it's so different and it's not like the old r7. Who cares? 99% of people buying this bike have never rode the old r7 and probably have never even seen one. I'm so happy it's not an inline 4 with only power at the top. This is what people want! A cool looking bike to blast around on the streets and pop some wheelies on. This will do that way better than an r6 or old r7
He says exactly this towards the end of the video.
This should be used on track for beginners. I want this so bad.
What do u ride?
Also, the 749 cc motor on the old r7 is pretty torquey in comparison to a gutless 600, but I agree with your point, hardly anyone has owned nor ridden an original R7
Because 90% of viewers wasn't even born at the time or was well under the age.
I think Yamaha have nailed it with this one! Opening a new chapter for those who are both older and young. 👍😎
@motorguitarcycle I couldn’t agree more. Bring on an R9, I’d take that everyday of the week and twice on Sunday’s over the R1 ( where you can lose your license just in first gear!), way to much for the roads...
I rather would go with Aprilia rs660..
@@pchzl that’s a better bike hands down. It’s also carrying a higher price to match. So for the money, Yamaha have made an affordable bike that will outsell the Aprilia by a country mile.
@@marcusgeorge1825 you’re right the r7 will be the game changer on the market which will outsell all the bikes like cbr650r etc. I wish to see the r9 with something like the mt09 engine and I would definitely think about buying it. Current r7 is not for me..
@@pchzl I couldn’t agree more with you on that. Bring on an R9 and I’ll be buying one. The R7? No. However, if the 650 ish class (fully faired) is for what peps want the I have no doubts the R7 will top the sales charts. If money isn’t an issue then the RS660 is the ultimate king of that class. I just don’t see the need for any plus 1000 cc sport bike for the roads. As let’s face the truth that realistically speaking, less than 0.0001% of the riders on the planet will be able to fully use the capabilities of this machines on the road. That is if you have zero intention of using them on a track. A R9 however will be arguably the best bang for buck bike ( in that category) you could possibly get and still not be able to use it all.
I’m glad you mentioned the quickshifter is not compatible with gp shift. Thanks
Great review Troy! You always do an amazing job with the quality of information that others can't provide.
Wow. That's really nice of you to say. Thanks.
@@TroySiahaan That's the truth. You're very welcome.
Concur. You definitely did a much better job reviewing this bike than many others who have tried.
The difference between this and the vids the "TH-camrs" put up were night and day. Well done
@@400chevlc You can clearly see why Troy is an actual professional writer after comparing his video and article to motovloggers. The quality of words and construction are far superior.
It's about time...I think this is a beautiful bike that is practical both for the street and track. More than enough bike for the majority of riders out there. I think Yamaha finally nailed it. It will interesting to see if they do this for the MT09!
Finally a proper review video of r7 on TH-cam. Fed-up of those on board stupid thing
this is great.. cheap, probably 35kw compatible, good looking, motor that by now everyone knows, perfect for some mid range track day tournaments this will do it for sure
Best YT review of the R7... imo.
Much more informal video than all the rest.
I am going to own this bike.
Looks like a fun back to basics package and before seeing the video I was thinking they were going to use the Tripple. I am sure with some mods and tuning the bike would be a blast whilst still being more affordable.
Well done Yamaha.
Okay, so they took a fun bike, MT07, moderated the weaknesses and put a sporty fairing on it, thus making it more fun. Sounds great
It’s gonna be fun but I’m gonna miss the sound of the in-line 4
Hey, Yamaha has renamed models before (FZ-> MT, FJ -> Tracer, Star -> ?). If the name bothers you, write a petition or something. I'm just glad they're making something accessible, and fun, which might attract new riders.
Well said 👊
😂 lol
They are squandering the cache of the 'R' moniker. That may turn out to be a good business decision in the long run. Especially if people are getting smarter about buying a motorcycle that will spend the vast majority of its life on the street. They could have just as easily called it an FZ7R, it sort of splits the difference.
@@rs232killer I was thinking the same thing. FZ7R would be good. Another Idea I had was RT-07 or maybe MT-07R. Basically anything to say, "this isn't a race replica, unless you are looking at the twins class, then yes it's a race replica."
I bought a MT-25 the other day and it took me only 3 months to get bored of it so I sold it and got myself a bigger one (Duke 390) and I find it extremely fun
Fantastic video. I cant wait to try one of these out. I got a 2017 R3 as my first motorcycle at the end of 2019. 6k miles later I am still loving it. I put some Bridgestone S20 Evos on it, along with a few other upgrades. I feel like this R7 would be a great bike to trade it in for, but I cant let it go. I'm trying as hard as I can to keep the R3 forever. Cheers.
Former R3 owner myself! Awesome little bike and honestly I'd consider an R7 to be the perfect upgrade of you don't want to go to an MT-09 or such. But if you want to stick with the R3 nothing wrong with that either!
not a bad idea if you'd like to develop your craft! i would suggest hanging onto it until deals pop up end of MY for the r7... if u get a crummy trade in, keep the r3 as a track bike. U still don't want to throw a $9k bike down the road (track)
Was going to keep mine forever too but it got stolen. Loved that bike
@@mrobinson8686 so sorry to hear that. Was it at home or out in public?
Word! We have a 2016 R3 at home bought from brand new and I'm still riding it after selling my 1990 CBR250RR. Been wanting to upgrade to a 600cc super sports but this little thing just has so much potential that I haven't wringed out yet. Also chucked on some Diablo Rosso III last month and loving it. :)
My 05 R6 already had radial brembo master cylinder from stock.
Honestly, great naming scheme, don't even care about all the salty people. Great marketing by Yamaha, following the same structure of the MT line. Great price point. Great looking. And hopefully, great performing bike. Can't wait to see what they can do with the R9. 👍🏻
yeah, imagine if the R1 was replaced by an R9, you think people would be pissed? Well that's how R6 owners feel currently...
@@Uninfluenceable by mantaining the MT line scheme logic, that won't happen, as you have the MT-09 and naturally the MT-10. Also, it wouldn't make sense to remove the R1 because it's a flagship product and at least has a bit of torque down in the revs, so it's not gutless on the street. The R6 was a middleweight bike that was only usable in track because it had nothing at low and mid revs. I actually think the R9 will be the real R6 replacement, because the horsepower is more comparable and it will have way more torque, making it usable on street and on track. I feel what you're saying, but if you want to attract new riders, while making companies money and still making new fun bikes all at the same time, this is the way to go.
@@Uninfluenceable I don't think most R6 owners feel anything about this because they already have an R6. The only people mad about this are ones who like the *idea* of owning an R6 and are either too poor to buy one or don't actually ride anyway. If you really want an R6 there's thousands of 2019+ bikes still sitting in dealerships waiting for all these angry owners to buy them.
@@iamricardomarques That's all relative. They're not as torquey as r1s obviously but they are perfectly usable on the street, I feel like people who say this just haven't ridden 600s.
@@rustyshackleford6874 on a 600 the party doesn’t start until 9.000 or 10.000 rpm and by then you’re already breaking every speed limit known to man. Unless you live in Germany and you have an Autobahn at your doorstep. It’s fun ripping like that on track, on street is just stupid.
Yamaha give us the dang Tracer 700 in the US already.
@Kattrap Seems so odd they would do that. They would sell like crazy here. It hits the real sweet spot for me. Now I just want the BMW F900XR
love at first sight! if yamaha brings it to india for the exact same price as in us, i am ready to sacrifice my car for it!
unfortunately, even dreaming this isnt possible/ useful in India ☹️
Can’t imagine an R7 would be suited to delivering Uber eats
This seems like a pretty great bike.
It is. I bought one and love it.
Can’t help thinking Yamaha have done it again with this new R7. I love it 👍🏻
Thank you! All the butthurt over the R7 name has just been so cringy. People hating a perfectly fine bike without even riding it just because it happens to be NAMED after a 20+ year old super rare bike that they have never seen or ridden, or could ever afford anyways, without realizing that Yamaha can name their bikes whatever the hell they want, lol. Don't like it? Don't buy it. But stop talking smack about a sorely needed and sensible sportbike just because you wanna look like a "real" biker or whatever fragile ego compensation crap you're on.
Hopefully Kawasaki keeps selling the ZX6R at 10K; better option for those that wanted an R6 level bike, than the R7.
Discontinued in the uk. Does not meet the new emission norms. Don't know about the rest of the world.
@@arnoldtm31 Still sold in the US, and is the last true modern supersport you can buy since both the gixxer and 600rr are now ancient...
@@Uninfluenceable GSXR is actually better than a ZX6 stock, they have brembos and better stock suspension for track use. ABS is actually dangerous on track. and the 636 has only been updated visually in 2019, the bike underneath has no edge on the other 600s.
I have been riding my 1985 Yamaha Vmax 1200 for a couple of weeks now. It has 11,700 original miles and is in mint condition. It is number 2131 off the production line. Any Vmax before 2500 is 100% full power. Factory rated at 145 hp I had it on a Dyno at 127 hp to the 170 rear tire. Not bad for a 36 year old bike.
You hit the nail on the head in the beginning of the video. The reason 600s are dying is because they weren't priced correctly. Why buy a 600 or 800 when for just a thousand or 2 more i can get the same type of bike in 1000 cc. If a middleweight supersport was like 5 grand less they would still sell. Who doesn't want more power if the price is almost the same?
I was just in the mtns on my 1000cc and was wishing it was a smaller less powerful bike. I’d love to try one of these
The new R7 makes sense for the street and at this price. Anything more would be significantly more expensive, moving it into a different market.
Of all the people complaining that this is not an R6 or previous R7, how many actually bought one of those. Hint.... it's not many or they wouldnt have discontinued them.
R6 was one of the best selling bikes Yamaha has ever sold, they discontinued it because for one they didn't want to spend the money to make it current emission complaint, but mainly because there is a hell of a lot more margin they can make on this new R7 (which uses mostly cheap stamped steel constructions), as compared to the very expensive to manufacture R6 (which is all high end forged aluminum and magnesium components). The R6 was for people that buy sportbikes for the performance, the R7 is for people that buy sportbikes to pull the ladies...
I think it will be better if lower the price to 8k. Lets be honest, its a roided up R3 or ninja 400
@@Uninfluenceable It stopped being one of their best selling bikes years ago mate. Companies don't stop selling products that are in demand and making money. 🤦🏽♂️
@@rockafella1690 perhaps that's true in the UK, but in the US the sportbike is still king. The R1 outsells the MT-10 probably 10 to 1. This move from Yamaha is completely profit driven. Even if they sell half as many R7's as R6's, they will make 5x the profit as there is a heck of a lot more margin to be made on the R7 compared to the R6. I'm sure the R7 will sell fine, but it will never achieve the same status as the R6 did. Show up to any track day or canyon ride here in California and you will see more R6's than any other make or model of bike. I doubt that will be true with the R7...
@@Uninfluenceable you'll see more *used* R6s. My dealership, smack in the middle of the bay area has sold less than a dozen R6s in the last three years while they literally can't keep MTs of any displacement on the floor for more than a few days.
In Taiwan, some of the riders go to retailers on bikes (if course scooters are more common). I once saw a young lady with her 600RR go shopping.
For me, I don't want an inline 4 for these daily use. R6 has too much heat for grocery errands, but R7 would well fit these tasks
Who the hell goes shopping with a Supersport bike.
@@Allenamenwarenschonweg indonesian mid economy level will do that . We buy superbike just for morning run and weekend . Or go to mall 😂
Since this review is at the racetrack, I'd love it if Troy would tell us if, given the choice of only two bikes to ride on track, the R6 and the R7, he'd pick up the R7 and not the R6. To me, this review sounded more like defending the choice Yamaha made than an actual review. It's not the bike itself that bothers me. It probably has its place in the world and the sales will show it. It's the name that bothers me. It's a slap over the face for diehard sportbike enthusiasts. So Yamaha... why pretend?
Don’t you think that this bike is intended for a more entry level rider than the R6? Since tons of people mod their MT07 into track bikes, I think there is a market here.
Agree with half of what you said. I'd only say it is not the bike itself that bothers me - it's the PUSH everyone is trying to do with this bike. Every reviewer on TH-cam this past week has been sucking this bike's dick and being DISINGENUOUS. The icing on the cake was one reviewer while riding on the track yelled out "I love opening up the throttle!!!" and the R7 barely did shit....So embarrassing....
@UCBrki65pkVNzYTNkPYVdqxA You just described ALL marketing for every product that ever existed. This is an entry-intermediate level sport bike that is a significant step up from the R3. Look at the ergonomics, the geometry, and the chassis, and the weight. It’s a proper sport bike unlike the CBR650 and Ninja 650. I have no qualms with them calling it the R7. If they came out and said it was higher performance than the R6 and that R6 owners should upgrade, well now that would be some bullshit.
people can call it R689 if R7 hurts so much 😁
@@kevinhernandezretana2170 my freind I've learned long time ago not to trust any professional reviewers, they are all sellout shills who get free stuff from manufacturers and they won't bite the hand that feeds them. Owners are the real reviewers, people like you and me who actually spent our own cash on the damn things.
This is the exact bike I’ve been looking for. Though about getting an mt-07 or 09 but just don’t like the styling and want it to be aerodynamic
Exactly. People seem to be missing the point not everyone likes the boring upright naked style
Same here, although I am a beginner who is looking at this for a 2nd bike.
Should this one had 3 bangers.. the world will come begging for it.
Yep, the P-twin just isn't sporty enough to be in a real sports bike. Yamaha just making a cheap middleweight.
Perfect for the target group.
Since it has less power than an R6 I hope the insurance is cheaper.
Insurance is expensive for motorcycles?
@@MADLITS1K for young people probably... people over 25? Nah. My zx10r cost me $200 A YEAR on the states. Granted that's only liability full coverage probably like $4-500 A YEAR
@@jponz85 it wasn’t a serious question my bad lol idk anyone that pays anywhere near even a $100 a month for motorcycle insurance
If you are looking at the r6, this is not the bike for you. It's just a beginner big bike, just like the ninja 650. Props to kawasaki for keeping it and the zx6r separate.
@@arnoldtm31 I started on a zx6r. An r6 can for sure be a first bike. After you go to a liter size bike though, those 600s ain't shit anymore.
Finally yamaha releases a 650. I've been waiting for the for so long.
Now they need to make a faster R3
@@bryankc9644 honestly an R4 would be hella cool. Especially if they did like a baby cp3 or something.
@@remigusker6024 the zx4r is coming out soon. 400cc inline 4
@@brucewayne6858 only problem is that an i4 400 will end up costing closer to budget 650s than R3/N400. Would be sweet as a track bike, would love having such a powerful, light little bike though
Your review was a great read. A bike you can actually use to its full potential as a commuter and weekends in the canyons.
The review of the R7 I've been waiting for
Everyone hating on this bike but i love it! After watching kila cam and blondie moto vlogs ! It is a perfect bike! Great for woman and men!
Top end can catch up with Aprilia RS660?
Great video! R9 can’t be far behind, I hope!
Why and R9 when there's already the R1
@@markhill8590 why not!
@@pistolpete6321 why buy and R9 when for not much more you can an R1 the world of inline 4 600s supersports are dead now its all going to be twins
@@markhill8590 r9 will be a mt09 with fairings if they keep the trend going,so about 110 hp,and wayyyy cheaper than an r1.MSRP will probably be at around 10k new,so theres a whole lot of point to do it
@@leftvassis 10k? Be serious you'll be talking around 11-12k let's not forget that the R6 was 12,500
Why do you still call it YZF? I thought they had removed that from their naming convention?
All the reasons for not buying an r6 you stated perfectly. Who wants to ride around at 12,000rpm it’s not really usable in the street which brought me to the r3 for all around fun and it’s a great little bike till you hit open road which I don’t too often but often enough to consider adding this r7. I’ll have to take a test ride to make that decision but I still need to raise the bars an inch at least due to back issues. It’s surprising how much that helps.
I like the design But a little disturbed by the headlights.I like it. I love two cylinders.l like Yamaha YZF R7.
This will be my second motorcycle when it comes out, exactly what i want. I have a 300cc one, and i want some power but not something like an R6 or R1, but i want the look of those 2 bikes. This is my dream bike dude
sorry but this R7 is so poor... middle sport bike with 70cv/80cv ? Sorry, but my gsx-s750 (with gsxr's motor) and its the same price and I got 114cv ! The Ninja 636 costs more 2.000€ than R7 and it has 130cv !
@@PB-cv1ge Mate, this bike is literally perfect for someone moving up from an R3 or 300cc. Brilliant price point, beautiful power band for daily driving, what about it is poor?
@@PB-cv1ge
Not everyone is interested in BHP!
This bike is for a totally different demographic.
Either way, I'd take a 636 over a GSXR any day, because Suzuki is all about budget, which means less bike for your money.....
@@ukcitizen1158 thats why i bought a gsxs 750... has the gsxr motor, and is not a naked and not a sport bike, its a street fighter. Try to drive a R7 and Gsxs 750 and you will see it your eyes 😁
The gsxs 750 allow more to you , comfortable,power, tecnology than R7.
Great Video. Yamaha is working the middle weight market for all it’s worth: Standard naked, Adventure, and now this bike. Suzuki and Kawasaki need to step it up. Aprilia already messed up on the 660 with too high a price point.
The 660 has Brembos and nannies that alot of riders want, we cant keep the RS660 in stock.
The price is ridiculous high, compared to the 12k of the R6, wich has top notch brake, suspension, engine, frame, etc. It should cost around 7.5K
Considering the SV650 is $7700 now I could see an extra thousand for all the extra plastics. Seems like basically the same formula as an SV650SF from 10 years ago but more aggressive and less comfortable.
I mean the mt07 is around 7.5k and they have to add plastic and change the frame and also add better components so I think 9k is pretty good
I can’t wait for track days
Damn dude that intro was SICK ! The music , everything. Bad ass ridin too 😊
If this bike had a 100hp it would be perfect.
R9 when Yamaha? I'll put a deposit down the day it's announced.
Signed - MT-09 owner who reeeeeeally wants this engine in a faired package.
@@remigusker6024 or even a package with good suspension and brakes lol. I have a '17 with custom suspension and still not great.
@@isaaclarson That would be the sp.
Also if you have custom suspension that's still not good enough that's kinda your fault, not the bike's.
@@remigusker6024 well the SP was not a thing on the 2017 for one. And let me clarify.. I rebuilt the front forks with heavier springs, new oil, and improved valving. The rear has a Penske Double Clicker. Maybe it needs some adjustments but the bike is not sorted in corners.
I did a demo ride on a stock MT-10 and it was so, sooooo, much more stable than my bike in corners.
My bike is so twitchy in the corners.
Lots of people in the comments here either missing the point of this bike or getting hella defensive about it being a sportbike. Funny af.
True 😂
If this was sold alongside the R6, no one would care, but the fact that THIS is what they are placing the R6 with, it's a huge slap in the face for supersport fans. Remember, the R6 is the single most popular sport bike ever made, so a lot of people are feeling a bit betrayed by this move from Yamaha..
@@Uninfluenceable maybe if people actually bought R6s then they'd have had cause to update them for emissions instead of scrapping the 600cc line.
If anyone has cause to feel betrayed here it's Yamaha's engineers. They built a beautiful, hard core af bike like enthusiasts wanted.
And then enthusiasts didn't buy it.
@@remigusker6024 The R6 sold better than any other 600 until the day it was discontinued. This was not about units sold, this was purely about which bike made Yamaha a bigger profit margin, and the cheap to make, cheap to sell R7 is obviously the one that did. Now the ZX6r is going to become the defacto track bike, which is a shame for Yamaha fans.
@@Uninfluenceable bro my dealership, right in the middle of the bay area which is about as hot for bikes as anywhere in the US can get sold less than a dozen R6s in the last three years while MTs fly off the floor almost faster than they can stock them. Hell even the R1 outsells the R6 and they're lucky to move one every other month.
Note I'm not saying the R6 was a bad bike. It was old yeah, but it was hella good. But it also didn't sell and expecting a company to keep selling a failing bike just for your taste is entitled af.
Hopefully there is an R9 coming... perfect match power wise. Also hope an MT-07 "SP" with this chassis is coming
I would buy an R9 in a heartbeat. I love my MT-09 and having that motor in a faired package would be dope.
If Yamaha makes an R9 I think they would have a good lineup. Buy an track bike if you want to race. Yamaha has to make bikes that sell.
Just make sure the R9 is better suited to the track too.
Nice first impressions of the bike.
Who wants a slower middleweight? Not I. Nothing better than the 08/09 r6, best bike ever made.
Put a deposit down on one at my local dealership. Their Yamaha rep is estimating mid-late July for delivery. My dealer is only getting THREE. These things are going to be hard to find I'm guessing.
If you have to have a Yamaha this is the bike for “mid” size bikes. But the 636 is a great sport bike for the street just paint it blue
This would more compete with a ninja 650 than a 636
That could be said as well. But the better option is the 636 as it is a supersport for the street and msrp is 10000
Demo rode an R7 on the NJ Motorsports Park a few days ago. Had an absolute blast on it! Yamaha did a great job with this one!
@Kattrap I owned an MT07 before and also did the R6 throttle tube. Would do the same mod here. Throttle on the R7 feels like factory MT07.
The real question is where can I get those race lines ? Great review
Brembo radial master cylinder did appear first time on 2005 R6, so it is not true that it appeared first time on R7!
It isn't just that it's a poor successor to the vaunted R7; it's not even a proper successor to the R6. I don't dislike it for what it is, I dislike it for what it pretends to be.
Getting past that, thank you for the great review. Lots of good info, all presented very well. 👍
Wouldn't waste money on it imo much better options around this thing is all about looks. Bit of a shame really
It's Yamaha's super twin for the races. 😉😁😁😁
I like to see the mysterious mechanics that inflate the tires, etc. 💯🕴
Guess they're doing something right. I can't buy one where I live because they're apparently always sold out overseas.
I haven’t been following too closely but to me it’s like this. If the R7 can race supertwin then it has a place. Otherwise my money would go to the zx6r for only a little more you get a better swingarm, shock, forks, brakes, dash, power, even comfort
I look forward to the R7 vs Priller 660 vs SV650 shootout.
frankly, the R7 is going to be the better choice at a better price, and that's coming from a tuono owner. the 660 pricing is just too dang high - way to close to ducati panigale v2 pricing at least here in Oz, and that's a whole 'nother ball game.
@@utubeski42 I'm from Aus have both 790 & 890R Duke (reasons on my channel) & if KTM with CFMoto build an RC750 I'l be getting one of those big time.
Let's see a group test R7, R6, 660 & whatever other interesting bike you can throw in maybe a Triumph
Itbis a beautiful bike with more usable power in the real world. The only thing that I don't like is the way all the wires are infront of the speedash. The dash is covered by wires and looks untidy. It is the same in R3 as well. The looks of thr bike is something that one will get used to with time, that headlight in the center, I guess will take time for some people to get used to...however I am sure it will be a more fun bike.
I think Kawi needs to nix the 10 and bring back the 7R, it's a more usable street bike and it was, is and could be the best looking bike of all time.
I love it. I grew up watching BSB and WSC and the venernable R7 so I am glad Yamaha have brought the name back in a package that makes sense today.
Trizzle you think there is any chance Suzuki follows suit and gives us an SV650S to compete? I like the fact that that engine just likes to rev more, and in demo rides I thought the SV handled a bit better. The only thing that was kinda meh on my SV650 demo ride were the brakes but if they did make a R7 competitor I'd expect them to raid the parts bin for the radial brakes off the GSX-S750, at least I hope.
Never say never, but I'm not holding my breath. This coming from a SV650 owner, too.
@@TroySiahaan Thanks for the response Trizzle. I hope Suzuki surprises both of us.
The problem with the CP2 engine is all torque is down low. At around 140+km/h quickly runs out of puff. So great for beginners, why then having R3? R6 was a legend of the bike, proper supersport.
i think that R7 have different gear ratio
Love it! Great video!
Built purely for the European market to meet A2 licence requirements and compete with 650s, cool looking bike just wish there was a new R6 or sportsbikes with the MT09 triple.
i would had taken this R7 for sure from my R3, BUT, for that price point i would really stay with the Z900 in mind instead, same price and you get more technology and more engine, just for the sporty look and feel you are paying the price of an overall better motorcycle...still have to wait and see...
That is very reasonably priced for a brand new machine! I paid that for my 08 R6 raven in 2015
R6 was their best looking bike IMO
I'm just feeling sad about this R7 CP2.. they should use CP3 but keep it at 700cc.. that would be great competition for the street triple.. and.. i has ride all 2pot, 3pot and 4pot bike.. 3pot is just like a sweet spot.. it has just enough of low, mid and high range.. make it abolute easy to ride in heavy traffic.. and the same time great for canyon carving.. just how i love my mt09.. but if only it was an R family instead of Naked..
Not sure how I like the R7, replacing the inline 4 but I could see how it could be cheaper to produce and much better for sales down the line for Yamaha RIP Yamaha R6
Best review I have seen for R7 by far..
Nice work. Looks the biz plus your comment on the naming is spot on... “Get over it!!”
Yamaha shouldn't have named it R7 though. It's an insult to the real R7, which is in my opinion the best looking Yamaha out there.
who cares? people are salty over an old and obsure racebike that theyve never even seen/ridden or even googled up until now
I love the idea of the new R7 but I find it amusing that cost is cited as being one of the biggest reasons the R6 was axed and the need for a budget friendly sportbike commuter being the cited for the new R7's creation...but then making the R7 almost as much as an R6 was. That's going to cost people $10k out the door.
Around 8k so its like 7k difference
@@BadEnglicInc MSRP for the 7 is $9k, which means it's going to be close to $10k out the door. R6's are still going $12k out the door. This is not a considerable price difference.
Great review and I agree with the other commenters: Yamaha needs to bring an R9.
UK watchers; will there be any spec difference between this and "ours"?
Update:
There ARE differences between the 2021 and 2022.
There ARE local differences too.
E.g indicators are different in size and shape even between Europe and UK!
Most changes are between US and European/UK though.
Hmmm? With CFmoto hooked up with KTM and announcing a suite 750cc paralell twins I bet we see an RC750 in the not so distant future, so watch out twin cup racing (750cc limited) with Blue & Orange rivals going hard at it. This has to be a good thing right?
Peace, nice video. You got me when you said most of em never rode a Real R7 anyway, lol. I spoke about the same thing in my cover of the R7. Great vid...
We all that ride R6 wanted a replacement and this clearly is not it. Pretty sad I am stuck with no bike to replace my R6 because that R7 is not close to my R6 in anyway I do 30 plus track days a year dropped from liter bike to R6 it was so good. Maybe 636 the next gen.
I have the KTM Duke 890R, This bike looks good but I'm affraid it's a level down from what I'm used to.
Agreed they should bring out a engine with mid-range and smoothness of the mt-09 that is an extremely fun bike to ride! Now put that into the looks and setup of a R6! And the mt-09 was also still affordable!
The best thing about sport bikes is knowing they can beat a sports car if u really want to even if u rarely use the power. What we need is an r6 with no electronics to keep the price down. Just a raw mechanical machine that relies on skill to go fast. U dont need electronics on a 600.
You all had that and didn’t buy it... so they updated the R6 with electronics and you still didn’t buy it... so this is what you get
@@Texarmageddon i bought one
Awesome bike i wanna have one 🔥🔥🔥
To the people saying we shouldn't complain about Yamaha calling this an R7, how about Yamaha call it an R7 TURBO next year without actually installing a turbocharger on the bike? Because... Why not. The name doesn't matter, right? Just like how Porsche has a Taycan Turbo which is a 100% electric vehicle.
The "R" in the name used to have meaning. Yamaha is causing the "R" meaning to be cheapened because of their decision with this bike. That's similar to how ford made an electric SUV and called it a "Mustang". That was a slap in the face to diehard Mustang fans and it has caused the "Mustang" brand to be cheapened.
This bike should not have been called an R7! I'm not showing bias either. I actually don't even buy Japanese supersport bikes.
Now people be like - *R7 kit for MT-07 please*
People calling for years for a factory fairing kit is probably 60% of why this bike exists.
Good spec & affordable price. More than enough for mountain man to ride like me. 💙💙
It’s a parallel twin MT-07 with fairings. Definitely not a SuperSport like the R6👎🏽
Euro 5 emissions killed the high-revving in-line four R6. She will be missed p😢
That engine is one of the best with some differences between the T7, MT07,and now R7. Wondering what is interchangeable between them?
Did i miss the description of the engine? is it a 2 3 or 4 cylinder? Not familiar with mt-07. i can look it up, but why would you not say?
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Good review with useful information 👍🏻