Charlie Brooker is absolutely hilarious, was in third row of this. Great Q&A. Didn't know Joe Wright had insecurities, but that seems a thing with directors.
Actually although it's not officially aired in China, we can still watch it through certain websites, and we absolutely love it! It's considered one of the most amazing TV shows in recent years.
Nowl Wane the only thing close to cartoonish in that ep was the mole and maybe the cg on the spider-hybrid of his bully. Other than that, there wasnt any cartoon or cartooniness involved. Im not arguing since your opinion is as valid as anyone elses, im just curious if you could expand on what was cartoonish for you other than two scenes that lasted less than 2 min each out of an hour long episode.
I'm quite late to discover this series, but jeez its genious. I've loved every episode thusfar (Just seen white bear), and its amazing to talk about with others, as i'm noticing how people take things from an episode i didn't even think of, and the other way around. I hope this series isn't just watched by people like me, who are already in for thinking criticaly about subjects like this, but also by people who just like the stories and just happen to start and think about it.
Jake episode 6 could be easily ported into an actual movie if they felt like it and could be the best scifi movie this year simply because our current scifi movies boil down to no official government or oppressive as fuck government and black mirror has been doing half of the scifi genres original scifi for it this year
No worries guys, I just downloaded 3 of the season 3 episodes from the the torrent site I use. Love this show so much, I have been a fan of Charlie Brooker since the early screenwipe days. Episode 1 is good, about social media. The others are really good too.
Amazing series, Brooker really explored some serious social and political issues about the power of technology and potential abuse. It terrified me because i can easily see some scenarios related to what is depicted in the show actually happening. It's a terrible impasse for humanity, do we become a connected controlled global society which is capable of solving global problems that threaten our existence (unavoidably under corporate influence) or do we remain a series of populist insular countries trapped in a siege mentality and ignoring the planet? If we go either route there are potential nightmares - the first route can lead to scenarios in a high tech future like some of the episodes in Black Mirror. How much is too much?
Don't worry, we in Scotland, lack the sunshine and vitamin D (same reason you wouldn't film it here). Rgardless in my experience we like things dark and gritty!
I wonder if its popular in the underground fashion. To say that it doesn't actually air on Chinese television anywhere. You also probably can't go into a shop and buy it. Most likely that it gets maybe distributed through dvd exchange and torrenting. Just a guess...
no one in China who watch american/uk tv shows actually "buy" those shows. IP is not even a concept among Chinese young viewers. There are even free subtitle translation online. Just saying...
I know for a fact it's available in China, loads of people have watched it, with subtitles made days after release... with the difference being none of them are paying for it lol
Will Darling It's more of a commentary on the state of entertainment access in China, while DMCA and various ISPs are doing everything they can to minimise pirating in the West, it's extremely easy to access those same content in China, even ones that are supposedly banned, a country that's famous for their censorship of the media. But okay, sure, I'm sure my original comment actually meant to say "Oh, why didn't Charlie Brooker personally endorse people to pirate their show? Bizzare!" Whatever suits you.
aaron4820 No that would have been even more odd. Why not just say "It is easily pirateable in China, lots are watching it" -rather than adding all the attitude "i know for a fact" and "none of them are paying" and ending with a 'lol'.
Will Darling "I know for a fact" Because I'm Chinese living in the West with lots of Chinese friends, in, you guessed it, China. Who have watched the show. Could I get your personal email so next time I post a pointless remark on the internet, you can vet it for me before I post it?
Please check and adjust sound levels before uploading. The quality of the content matters very little if we can't hear any of it or have to strain throughout.
I get the impression from Joe that he's a bit of a bell end. Irony being he'll get more plaudits for Black Mirror than his 'Pan' movie that got 'panned'.
black mirror is available in china. Most students in high schools have seen it, it's known as 黑镜 which is cool because the second character there can have a 'looking glass' meaning. ooh just saw some other comments that said similar things, you have to remember that chinese internet is its won thing and some very bizarre stuff gets fringed in it from the nether regions of the world. just like youtube has chinese tv station channels
Jake Yeah that would be a turn off for a lot of people, though it was still kind of dark in that none of their happiness was real and it's all still cold, hard tech igniting their happiness, it's all virtual which is why the ending scene with the happy shots intertwined with the robots was so effective in my opinion
It wasn't completely happy. They showed hints of the misery endless life could have and the fact it was all in a computerised environment controlled by robots gave it a sinister edge.
Hypnodelica the bees thing is the only thing that I didn't like about this series. The premise of the antagonist is great, just wished they could have used a different plot device for it. Felt cheesy.
I didn't have a massive problem with the bees, but i just felt that calling the episode a 'Scandi-Noir' was a bit pretentious considering the B-movie nature of the bee plot device...
Ever been in a fight? With two inexperienced, untrained fighters its not about size or strength mostly luck, you catch a person in the right way in the kidneys, testicles, nose or throat and the fight will tend to fall your way, find a rock or log and lash out with a good blow and the fight will fall your way. I watched a guy floor a bouncer the height difference between them was ridiculous, it was just a very nice powerful punch that hit a sweet spot on the bouncers jaw.
I don't really know Joe Wright's work, but he thinks cinematic is a rubbish word so I at least know he's not a contemptible hack obediently churning out more of the same. I suspect he's more than a cut above.
Overrall the series was great - but although I realise the play with genre is very knowing and self-referential, I felt San Junipero was awfully cake-and-eat-it cloying.
Could easily see the horrific treatment of copies of people as outlined in White Christmas coming true (not the technical aspects which seem far fetched) because of the way we already treat animals. Unlocking the mysteries of the human brain through science might result in new horrors. It's a pity that empathy isn't a trait in everyone and that almost seems to be a natural law.
Parasmunt I don't think neuro AIs will ever be subject to that kind of torture. The minute they pass the Turing test unequivocally we'd have to effectively comsider them to be genuine entities (the whole "cognito ergo sum" thing). Although a grey area occurs regarding what the original source does to their copy. Would you be imprisoned for tourturing "yourself"?
What,you got the biggest fan base of black mirror in China for sure.just because China don't run Netflix doesn't mean we can't get the episode online,Jesus.
I'm a republican that is glad Trump beat Hillary, that Brexit happened and I love Black Mirror. I wonder if these people ever consider that when they make comments bemoaning issues like that?
You are proving that it is indeed you and one could assume people like you that make many things, including political discourse impossible. Why keep replying with the same pointless comment?
Sorry but season 3 was nothing compared to seasons 1+2. 1+2 was unpredictable, the whole beauty of Black Mirror was that here was a show which still surprised me, a jaded, old man who's seen everything before. Season 3 was just as predictable as anything else on TV. Every twist and turn was broadcast almost from the very beginning of the episode. Especially the paedophile episode, Shut Up and Dance, the scene where he gives the little girl her toy in the restaurant really annoyed me. I already knew the twist from a mile off. There was absolutely no need for that scene, it gave us nothing but a spoiler. Same with the killer bees in Hated in the Nation. Why show us the bee on a flower? Or the open window when the first woman died? It just gave it all away. Admittedly, I thought at first the bees would be trying to protect people, some sort of built in protectiveness that made them kill the figure of hate, (which I still think would be better than having some guy program them... booooring) but either way you knew right away it was the fucking bees. And the fucking roach episode. God, so obvious and predictable. I hate this sort of thing. It treats the audience like a fucking idiot, as if we couldn't work it out without these little hints. Leave it as a complete surprise. It would have been so much more powerful to find out that guy was a paedo if we didn't already suspect that was the case. Compare this to earlier episodes. White Bear... I didn't think for a second she was a criminal. 15 Million Merits... I didn't expect for a second he'd actually end up selling out. etc. Don't get me wrong, season 3 was still much better than 90% of stuff on TV, but compared to previous Black Mirrors it was a let down. It felt "dumbed down"... which is a phrase I hate, but it feels apt here. And San Junipero was fucking inane dross. Terribly boring drivel. Sorry Brooker, I love you but it sucked.
Black mirror got me feeling like dying wouldn't be a bad idea after watching San junipero lmao it was too beautiful
Charlie Brooker is absolutely hilarious, was in third row of this. Great Q&A. Didn't know Joe Wright had insecurities, but that seems a thing with directors.
Don't we all have insecurities?
Petar Nikolov Didn't expect it from him, made him more relatable :P
Petar Nikolov Most human beings become depressed over them. It's what the entire human race can relate to. Trying to be a proper human being.
Actually although it's not officially aired in China, we can still watch it through certain websites, and we absolutely love it! It's considered one of the most amazing TV shows in recent years.
The second episode of season 3 is so fucking unnerving
fiftyfive16 'Play test' and 'shut up and dance' ruined me XD
YEAH !!!
fiftyfive16 it's too cartoonish
Nowl Wane the only thing close to cartoonish in that ep was the mole and maybe the cg on the spider-hybrid of his bully. Other than that, there wasnt any cartoon or cartooniness involved.
Im not arguing since your opinion is as valid as anyone elses, im just curious if you could expand on what was cartoonish for you other than two scenes that lasted less than 2 min each out of an hour long episode.
Yup, Playtest seriously fucked me up for a week or so
Wow loved the new season !
I'm quite late to discover this series, but jeez its genious. I've loved every episode thusfar (Just seen white bear), and its amazing to talk about with others, as i'm noticing how people take things from an episode i didn't even think of, and the other way around. I hope this series isn't just watched by people like me, who are already in for thinking criticaly about subjects like this, but also by people who just like the stories and just happen to start and think about it.
The 4th episode was one of the best tv episodes I've ever watched. They did an amazing job
menboong my favourite too. stunning.
it was so boring
You sound like you would be boring in person.
Onmysheet Why?
ASloaneRanger Why would you be negative over a great episode, but my question for you is, what did you find so boring about it?
There are a lot of Black Mirror fans in China, trust me.
Ezio Mu cheeeeyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnaaaaa
It's very well popular in Japan as I've read.
black mirror, breaking bad and the wire 3 shows I can praise forever
Don't mind being in a pit of despair.
Alexander Von Kania
Touché
Join the dark pit. We have piss cookies.
Thanks so much for uploading this. Gutted I couldn't go along in person.
So excited for this.
good effort charlie. a believable operating system is an important thing.
Love this show and anything by Charlie Brooker, but I live in China..... Hopefully they will be up on TH-cam shortly....
OpenWorld ChinaChaz87 hour long episodes
Not a chance
Youll have to find it somewhere else online
Episode 6 is 1h 30mins sooo
Jake episode 6 could be easily ported into an actual movie if they felt like it and could be the best scifi movie this year simply because our current scifi movies boil down to no official government or oppressive as fuck government and black mirror has been doing half of the scifi genres original scifi for it this year
matt carnes but im saying it wont be on youtube
No worries guys, I just downloaded 3 of the season 3 episodes from the the torrent site I use. Love this show so much, I have been a fan of Charlie Brooker since the early screenwipe days. Episode 1 is good, about social media. The others are really good too.
must be quite poignant for people in china where you have talk social credit system scary :O
Joe Rogan needs an experience podcast with Charlie. Badly!
Yes!
Why would Brooker waste his time with that fucking idiot?
Charlie reviewed Fear Factor and described Joe not so favourably.
@@EnglishInfidel here here, Joe Rogan is the worst.
@@EnglishInfidel because Brian Cox and Derren Brown have been on it?
be right back and the entire history of you, shot well and some of the best episodes.
Amazing series, Brooker really explored some serious social and political issues about the power of technology and potential abuse. It terrified me because i can easily see some scenarios related to what is depicted in the show actually happening.
It's a terrible impasse for humanity, do we become a connected controlled global society which is capable of solving global problems that threaten our existence (unavoidably under corporate influence) or do we remain a series of populist insular countries trapped in a siege mentality and ignoring the planet? If we go either route there are potential nightmares - the first route can lead to scenarios in a high tech future like some of the episodes in Black Mirror. How much is too much?
BM Season 3 Episode 6. Kelly McDonald's performance is so good, it could be made into a series.
b8bpattson it was good. I truly enjoyed the first episode with Bryce Dallas Howard, she was amazing. Hilarious and unhinged...
@@manicmandownup they were both great, would love to see more of them :3
This is the most British interview ever
the title explains exactly what black mirror is: we wanted to not ALWAYS fling you into a pit of despair
Don't worry, we in Scotland, lack the sunshine and vitamin D (same reason you wouldn't film it here). Rgardless in my experience we like things dark and gritty!
Actually Black Mirror is pretty popular in China, I wonder if Charlie's aware of that.
I wonder if its popular in the underground fashion. To say that it doesn't actually air on Chinese television anywhere. You also probably can't go into a shop and buy it. Most likely that it gets maybe distributed through dvd exchange and torrenting. Just a guess...
no one in China who watch american/uk tv shows actually "buy" those shows. IP is not even a concept among Chinese young viewers. There are even free subtitle translation online. Just saying...
He gets quieter after agreeing to talk into the mic.
Charlie Brooker is an alternative national treasure.
pigammon nothing alternative about him anymore judging by 2016 wipe. the establishment through n through now
Best Thing on UK TV.
Black Mirror is amazing!
Love these guys, so brutal.
The show is actually very popular in China.
WANTED!! ABC'S OF DEATH: BLACK MIRRORS EDITION
EllisD1249 what
If the black mirror team made their version of the film 'ABCs of Death'.
Abcs of death is shite
@@ThatGuyOverThere47 exactly; so the black mirror crew should make one
1:40 in and I am cracking up!
Annabel Jones is soooo pretty
Was that woman deaf? You could hear him perfectly or that´s what it seemed.
His reaction was fucking incredible 😂
Also Annabelles reaction to his reaction was pretty stellar too
I know for a fact it's available in China, loads of people have watched it, with subtitles made days after release... with the difference being none of them are paying for it lol
Does it surprise you that the creators do not advertise that you can pirate their show in one country?
Will Darling It's more of a commentary on the state of entertainment access in China, while DMCA and various ISPs are doing everything they can to minimise pirating in the West, it's extremely easy to access those same content in China, even ones that are supposedly banned, a country that's famous for their censorship of the media. But okay, sure, I'm sure my original comment actually meant to say "Oh, why didn't Charlie Brooker personally endorse people to pirate their show? Bizzare!" Whatever suits you.
aaron4820 No that would have been even more odd. Why not just say "It is easily pirateable in China, lots are watching it" -rather than adding all the attitude "i know for a fact" and "none of them are paying" and ending with a 'lol'.
Will Darling "I know for a fact" Because I'm Chinese living in the West with lots of Chinese friends, in, you guessed it, China. Who have watched the show.
Could I get your personal email so next time I post a pointless remark on the internet, you can vet it for me before I post it?
aaron4820 Yeah, point taken, I don't really care that much about 'tone'. Go for it, post whatever you like.
Joe Wright's movie 'Pan' was 'panned' by the critics HEY OHHHHHH
Please check and adjust sound levels before uploading. The quality of the content matters very little if we can't hear any of it or have to strain throughout.
I'm on a shitty laptop and can hear it just fine
+Dylan Branscombe well you're in the minority i believe
Daniel Simon doesn't seem like it, my reply has more likes than his comment
So i just watched episode 1, and that's enough for me.
Season 3 ep 1 is the weakest - because there aren't enough twists or surprises and the ending was not clever.
Nobody cares.
@@Parasmunt Nah.
It is very Tales of the Unexpected.
this man is genius
But I want the pit of despair, Black Mirror is the only show where I could find it
shout outs hounslow
i don't know what the episodes are called and i don't know the actors by their first name, i've got no idea what they're going on about
What film was Joe referring to?
Kat Dramitinos Pan
What's shouted out at about 12:50? Thanks.
I really get the impression from Joe that this is just a quick throw away side gig for him.
I get the impression from Joe that he's a bit of a bell end. Irony being he'll get more plaudits for Black Mirror than his 'Pan' movie that got 'panned'.
would love to see charlie brooker work with chris morris
It was indeed. Great series!
chris morris made charlie brooker
black mirror is available in china. Most students in high schools have seen it, it's known as 黑镜 which is cool because the second character there can have a 'looking glass' meaning. ooh just saw some other comments that said similar things, you have to remember that chinese internet is its won thing and some very bizarre stuff gets fringed in it from the nether regions of the world. just like youtube has chinese tv station channels
Annabel Jones is fit
the guy asking questions sounds like jack whitehall
Just finished the third series
Pure genius
Didnt like the 4th episode but that was just me
Funny, that was by far my favorite one. Fair enough though but yeah great season all in all.
Fascinated i didnt like how it was sort of a happy ending for once
Jake Yeah that would be a turn off for a lot of people, though it was still kind of dark in that none of their happiness was real and it's all still cold, hard tech igniting their happiness, it's all virtual which is why the ending scene with the happy shots intertwined with the robots was so effective in my opinion
It wasn't completely happy. They showed hints of the misery endless life could have and the fact it was all in a computerised environment controlled by robots gave it a sinister edge.
Paul2377 idk its just wasnt my thing
My favourite was either 2 or 3
Those endings were fucked up
Anyone else suspicious that Charlie Brooker is actually the modern day Nostradamus?
'Hated in the Nation' is less of a Scandi-Noir and more of a 70's B-Movie with swarms of killer bees flying about...
Hypnodelica the bees thing is the only thing that I didn't like about this series. The premise of the antagonist is great, just wished they could have used a different plot device for it. Felt cheesy.
I didn't have a massive problem with the bees, but i just felt that calling the episode a 'Scandi-Noir' was a bit pretentious considering the B-movie nature of the bee plot device...
All that talent. Nae mic technique.
How did that weedy kid win the fight? No way.
the other guy was overly drunk, i'd imagine that had something to do with it
Ever been in a fight? With two inexperienced, untrained fighters its not about size or strength mostly luck, you catch a person in the right way in the kidneys, testicles, nose or throat and the fight will tend to fall your way, find a rock or log and lash out with a good blow and the fight will fall your way. I watched a guy floor a bouncer the height difference between them was ridiculous, it was just a very nice powerful punch that hit a sweet spot on the bouncers jaw.
He had a weapon in his hand. Yeah it couldn't fire, but we've all seen Goodfellas!
Hehe. If that episode showed us anything it's that that kid is capable of a lot more than we'd expect!
Hahahhaha Literally in China and laughing at the start
15 000 000 likes from Belarus!
San Junipero.
I don't really know Joe Wright's work, but he thinks cinematic is a rubbish word so I at least know he's not a contemptible hack obediently churning out more of the same. I suspect he's more than a cut above.
His yelling didn't help when I'm wearing headphones
Hope biscuits!! :-)
Overrall the series was great - but although I realise the play with genre is very knowing and self-referential, I felt San Junipero was awfully cake-and-eat-it cloying.
I have nothing to say...nothing at all...sorry for this comment.
Could easily see the horrific treatment of copies of people as outlined in White Christmas coming true (not the technical aspects which seem far fetched) because of the way we already treat animals. Unlocking the mysteries of the human brain through science might result in new horrors. It's a pity that empathy isn't a trait in everyone and that almost seems to be a natural law.
Parasmunt I don't think neuro AIs will ever be subject to that kind of torture. The minute they pass the Turing test unequivocally we'd have to effectively comsider them to be genuine entities (the whole "cognito ergo sum" thing).
Although a grey area occurs regarding what the original source does to their copy. Would you be imprisoned for tourturing "yourself"?
clearly they did not want to turn a profit.
What,you got the biggest fan base of black mirror in China for sure.just because China don't run Netflix doesn't mean we can't get the episode online,Jesus.
🤔👍🇬🇧
I'm a republican that is glad Trump beat Hillary, that Brexit happened and I love Black Mirror.
I wonder if these people ever consider that when they make comments bemoaning issues like that?
You're classy.
It's people like you that make discourse impossible.
What is there to talk about? You support a racist, sexist etc... Your comment is completely pointless!
Again, it's people like you that make political discourse impossible.
You are proving that it is indeed you and one could assume people like you that make many things, including political discourse impossible. Why keep replying with the same pointless comment?
And now you are just trying to insult me! Pathetic.
Can't hear shit
Clean your ears.
this isn't interesting, why did i click on it?
anybody willing to give me their netflix password?
Sid Arthur no
Sorry but season 3 was nothing compared to seasons 1+2.
1+2 was unpredictable, the whole beauty of Black Mirror was that here was a show which still surprised me, a jaded, old man who's seen everything before.
Season 3 was just as predictable as anything else on TV. Every twist and turn was broadcast almost from the very beginning of the episode.
Especially the paedophile episode, Shut Up and Dance, the scene where he gives the little girl her toy in the restaurant really annoyed me. I already knew the twist from a mile off. There was absolutely no need for that scene, it gave us nothing but a spoiler.
Same with the killer bees in Hated in the Nation. Why show us the bee on a flower? Or the open window when the first woman died? It just gave it all away. Admittedly, I thought at first the bees would be trying to protect people, some sort of built in protectiveness that made them kill the figure of hate, (which I still think would be better than having some guy program them... booooring) but either way you knew right away it was the fucking bees.
And the fucking roach episode. God, so obvious and predictable.
I hate this sort of thing. It treats the audience like a fucking idiot, as if we couldn't work it out without these little hints.
Leave it as a complete surprise. It would have been so much more powerful to find out that guy was a paedo if we didn't already suspect that was the case.
Compare this to earlier episodes.
White Bear... I didn't think for a second she was a criminal.
15 Million Merits... I didn't expect for a second he'd actually end up selling out.
etc.
Don't get me wrong, season 3 was still much better than 90% of stuff on TV, but compared to previous Black Mirrors it was a let down. It felt "dumbed down"... which is a phrase I hate, but it feels apt here.
And San Junipero was fucking inane dross. Terribly boring drivel. Sorry Brooker, I love you but it sucked.
English Infidel Good luck with Season 4
pushkin's gun or whatever they call it
"feed us your thoughts". You are a pretentious presenter.
Season? Another bloody Americanism enters the British English language. :(
Series was a perfectly good word.
+Ben Wherlock what a niche criticism
Mr Grog to be fair it's something Brooker would fucking moan about haha.
GetTheCheeseToSickbay hes not as cool as he was