Hi Rob. This channel will grow because you are a very personable fellow. With a happy face, and quick wit, you deliver so much "bs-free" information that there's no time for filler. You talk to us like you are answering a question we asked. And, we want to hear it. Great channel.
@Marc-Andre Chiasson Samsung went south ever since they started locking their bootloader. I'm getting me a moto, too, after this Samsung phone I have now.
@Marc-Andre Chiasson I love my note, so sad I won't be able to get another (I might just buy another unlocked note if I could find one). Also, I haven't heard about the screen leak on the moto.
Thank you, Rob for all your amazing & detailed content. I have reduced my Google exposure and will reduce it further in 2022 with your help. Looking forward to getting one of your de-googled phones. Keep up the Good Fight!
Installing Lineage OS on my phone was one of the best decisions I've made as far as phones are concern. It's a great way to get used to being without Google (or Microsoft or any of those other things). Break out of the Matrix. Get rid of big tech.
Ya know Rob... I'm a pretty technically minded person and turn off very easily. I really must say you're extremely good at putting together really clear and concise videos and give very good technical explanations for advanced subjects to anyone that will listen. That is an gift absolute mate. Seriously, keep it up. In this day and age people like yourself are very few and far between. From an aussie in distress I thank you for your content! Every video like this helps the people protect themselves!
Have been trying to reduce my online footprint since i discovered your channel. Its amazing how far Google's arm actually reaches. Even when you least expect them .
My degree is in computer networking and my experience includes work with Dell Computer & Samsung Telecommunications. Hopefully that's enough to have confidence in my opinion that you're in the right place to learn and implement digital security changes to internet devices on this channel! Awesome information! Very helpful and much needed...and high tech info communicated on a level even non-techies can understand and act accordingly! Won over my subscription loyalty by a landslide!
Rob this was perfect timing in that I am on the market right now for a de-googled phone and needed this information! Looking forward to checking out your private email service soon! Thanks for the info.
He shows the reality of modernity and how we are being tracked, controlled by unlawful monopolies working in tandem with the govt. He is honest, and that is why his channel is growing.
Thank you for continuing this fight and making these videos. I know it must feel like herding cats sometimes. But your videos are so frank and rich with information, I find myself watching them several times to fully absorb the information.
I recently De-Googled a phone and installed Lineage myself. One reason I De-Googled is because I suspect Google also reads text messages if a person uses their messaging app and I don't trust Gboard . Thank you for all that you do.
Thank you for spelling out so CLEARLY which apps are safe on a de_Googled phone. I purchased a Moto G7 Plus from your company and I'm very happy with it. Only wish that what you've said in videos like this was available as a reference document for "do's and don'ts" with a Brax de-Googled phone on your web site. . . and were regularly updated You are doing GOD'S WORK here. We are eternally grateful. Keep it up and Salamat Po.
I was reading through various comments about this video and I just now had the thought that it would be helpful to see a list written out like you mentioned, and then I saw your comment! This could be helpful for many ppl for many different reasons. Some ppl are visual learners and it may stick better if they see it written down. Others who don't live in the tech world may need the repetition of referencing something written down multiple times before they will remember or accept the change (change, in general, is hard for most ppl, and maybe even more so when dealing with technology that often changes quickly anyway). Then there's also ppl who watch a lot of videos to educate themselves and they may not remember which video they saw the information they need in. Like if I watched this video today and made a mental note that I could use the Aurora store instead of the GooglePlay store once I have a deGoogled phone, but then a few months down the road (after watching hundreds more videos) when I'm actually taking action to start using my deGoogled phone, I may be sitting there trying to remember what the alternative store was called or even where to find the video or channel that I previously saw. Basically, I don't want to have to remember all the useful information I learn, but I want to be able to have quick access to the information at a future time when I need it.
@@stevev2292 EXACTLY my sentiment . . . You articulated it MUCH better than I could have. We live in a busy world and NEED a cohesive, coherent, ready reference to the INVALUABLE material Rob provides. Lord knows NO ONE else provides the kind of info Rob does. Rob is one of those SUPER SMART people who don't need lists and references like most of us normies (or in my case, sub-normies) do. As far as I can tell, that's his only blind spot (but then again . . . I *am* a sub-normie ;-)
@@lockergr dude, that would be a BIG project. HaHaHa, autocorrect tried to write pterodactyl instead of project. LOL. Yeah, that would be a BIG pterodactyl! And you’re going, What??? Anyway, if you DO create such a document Please make it available to others for a few dollars, $5, $6, $7 Many people are yearning for information about Braxmans stuff and Brax dot me chats and faqs sometimes difficult to navigate, A pdf than I can print, highlight, scribble notes, refer to later would be great.
@@ionphillips883 I need some extra income, so I would willing to do that. I'm also super detail-oriented and that would help. But it would take a mammoth amount of time to go through each video and literally pick out the pertinent bits and document them. I'm happy to do this though for the de-Googled phone videos though.
Rob, this video was excellent! I watch most of your videos and don't have a problem with the tech lingo at all, but I thought this video laid out your subject matter so clearly and simply that I want to share it with people I know who are not tech savvy, but may be interested in this topic.
Great video Rob, this one I can send to a few folks that might be game for such a thing. I use a dumb phone but a lot of people don't want to lose their cameras/GPS apps.
Didn't techlore test default android vs a degoogled pixel 4 with android as well as one with calyx and the degoogled ones ended up performing worse in battery
@@killertigergaming6762 idk about google pixels since they come with almost no bloatware already, but after degoogling a 3 year old samsung, i noticed a huge increase in battery life
@@knothead35 Yes that's right... It also doesn't have a headphone jack, which might be a minus. However, it is the android phone model which receives updates the fastest and grapheneos itself is a very good choice for an OS
Great explanation of what does and doesn't work along with workarounds. If more people understood their loss of privacy, they might value it more. If more people valued privacy, we'd have more.
Live and learn. Sir, my sincerest hope is this, “Being genuine with your audience.” I am fed up with the intrusive, clandestine and surreptitious behavior of these tech companies. I have often wondered “what are they hiding.” As a Marine Infantry O, I did not put my life on the line for America, to return home and experience these violations: blurred boundaries, et al. And there are many in my circle that do not appreciate this misbehavior. Semper Fi, Warrior
Big change since you started your channel, Mr. Rob. I hope you make live stream for actually de-googling a phone. Keep up the good work, sir. More power.
Love how you explained what the Degoogled phone is capable of. My main concern was the GPS navigation, but it looks like you think Waze is okay to use. Thanks, Rob!
I'd be interested in you talking about GPS devices and their safety Rob. I've been thinking of getting one to use since I need to navigate and do not want to use spy app.
Get yourself a used Garmin GPS and keep your phone for voice. I have bought a GPS at a thrift store for 10 bucks the only problem I need to replace the battery. If I keep the display low it works fine if I turn up the display the battery dies. A new battery will fix the problem. 73
You are doing a fantastic job with your channel and delivering useful information about tech. Education is key and as an IT support person I find the lack thereof a huge issue in the realm of consumers. More so than viruses, spyware and trojans.
Quick question: If the apps run in the phone, and had to require access to the OS in order to check for things like location, device ID, phone network, address book, etc. Why doesn't the OS provide a list of permissions available to the app? Like a sandbox where the app can only see what the OS grants them to see. I though that was the way mobile apps work, I don't see why using Instagram, Facebook, Twitter or TH-cam could compromise your privacy on the phone if they only know your current IP and sign-in information. Can you elaborate on that?
Apps are restricted but Google apps are system level apps and can do anything. Facebook is different. They are like hackers. They try to break the OS and steal identifiers and Mac addresses. They have been blocked but they keep doing it.
@@robbraxmantech Interesting, so, Google Apps have system level access, and apps like Facebook work like a trojan horse... Can the free-stores cripple those "hacking" capabilities before posting the app for download? And overthinking the issue... Imagine being able to run this apps inside a virtual phone, I mean, just like some PC/Servers are able to run a virtual PC for just an app in order to isolate it.
@@stevejohanson4133 After dealing with censorship online, I changed my primary email address in most services like Facebook and Google, and I'm planing on using a different email forwarding address for each service in the future, but it is quite a challenge. I also use an off-line password management tool and all my passwords are 100% different and random, because of this offline database, I could use all this services with a different email address, but I didn't consider that most users use a Gmail account for their social network logins.
The apps are crippled because there's no Google Firebase. They get routed through MicroG which is a Google Service spoofer. So they don't get direct information from the phone. However, all apps can still track IP address so a VPN is still needed especially when at home
Thank you! More information than I can comprehends; but I appreciate that you know your subject area so well, and are earnestly trying to get out as much information that you can, AND, you seem to be honestly trying to help people. I have a bunch of truther sites I frequent. You are on my truther-tech-guy help list!
We are in 2022, and many dont realise your phone is your cyber version. It holds so much data, not caring how/who you share with is a road to compromised mental health. ✌
In Sweden were pretty much forced to use a bank app called Bank ID, as it sounds for identification, its like a digital ID card... Guess will have to use a backup phone or computer for this?
Great video. I've been meaning to get a de-Googled phone but just haven't gotten around to making the switch. It sounds like I would be a good candidate, as I don't use a lot of Google products on my phone, and the few I do use have alternatives or are just not needed for mobile.
Rob Braxman Tech, You mentioned that you needed a Google Authenticator specifically for 2FA on Google products. I have mine set up with a Yubikey, which does not require the Google Authenticator app at all. If you find that you NEED the Google Authenticator app, you can always run a virtualized Android system like Bluestacks or LDPlayer just for the 2FA. I did this for about two years when my previous phone was on its last leg and was about to break. I didn't want my 2FA tied to a phone that would break any minute (held together by duct tape, microSD card was superglued in, battery swelling, and the back panel was nearly off). If you don't like the idea of the Bluestacks or LDPlayer due to privacy concerns, you can then run them on a virtualized Windows OS behind a Whonix gateway. I hope this helps you get rid of having to carry around a Googled phone.
Perhaps, I may disagree on this statement:"logging out from Google will not to identify you any longer" - well, you may log out but your IP address and other hardware specs stays the same, it may be able to identify you unless you come out of Tor Exit Node or change your IP immediately after you log out. Is my understanding correct?
Thank you for sharing this information Rob. I am in the process of moving my wife and I off our current phones. Sprint Dumped us (sold out 3g) and our phones are old enough we need to look to the future and not big Tech.
Degoogled tablets would be good I don't know how to do it and the bad thing it's a Samsung 12 inch tablet. Maybe Linux would work on the tablet I haven't got to that bridge yet. 73
How can I buy anonymously "burner" (or "gift") prepaid debit cards and prepaid "burner" phones; I don't want my transactions, movements, or locations tracked.
Burner Phones are 1 time use so you may want to upgrade to a dumb phone or de-google'd phone for a long term solution. You could obscure some of your transactions a bit by making straw man purchases through friends and family. Be careful with crypto because some of them may actually be less private than you think they are.
Even with cash, the time and location that the card is purchased is known. They need to be activated to work, so they will be treceable in that regard. They will not necessarily be tied to an identity, and you could wear a mask, choose a different store/town you buy it in, but when you load your phone with its service data it will still be tied to the time/place the service was purchased. Unless you are hiding from the government though this info will probably not be used to find you, however. Most companies have easier ways of tracking you than this.
By definition No!! :) for a phone to work it has an international standard com protocol ... This allows all telecoms to track when the phone is powered. If you add a SIM the tracking becomes automatic as the SIM links the phone hardware to the phone & the service provider. The cost of breaking this is high. If you add 'apps' the number of service providers increases per app - locking this down is hard as each app provider is mining you. The minimization of available information is a goal here but anonamty is impossible. :(, at networks need an identity to work & the identity is persistent. The cost benefit is what needs consideration here as anon communication is IMPOSSIBLE, you can only raise the cost of breaking the offuscation/cryptology.
Happy to find out i have one of the supported phones for lineage os. Now i just gotta find out how to deal with things like Bank ID and such apps were pretty much forced to use here in Sweden. Worst case scenario is can use em on computer only wich really aint half bad.
Like I said in the video, it's a standard phone. Phone and texts work normally so it works with all carriers that were originally supported by the phone
Phone support is hardware (Cell Baseband Modem) so that choice is not part of the OS but part of whatever the manufacturer created. Some modems (mediatek) do not work with Verizon. Only Qualcomm works with Verizon. Otherwise all carriers in the world are the same. Verizon is the only exception.
Rob, understanding that there are no GAPPS on the phone, thanks for the details about using google in the browser. it's great to know if you have to use it, you can use it there seemingly safely after you clear your cookies & cache.
Correct. Clearing cookies stops the tracking. But remember that the only information taken is an IP address and device description. So you can even eliminate one identifier with a VPN
De-Googling is GREAT--- but I thnk it's STUPID to De-GOOGLE a "GOOGLE PIXEL" phone-- just plain STUPID.... that's like saying I'll blindfold this fox and let him sit in the corner of the hen house!!
Laptops are just as easy to control and monitor via GWS. All you need is firebase, android for devs, chrome, google cloud.... You then can stack it with as many libraries and other cloud services with certificates. Think you can do a factory reset , wrong. Just set up a vm at boot with pub sub or i/o for persistence.
Those softwares SAY they don't collect anyting-- but you and I both KNOW- that if it's on the AIR- or ONLINE-- it can be ACCESSED... NO way to secure against it.
@Dean I can't argue with you because I'm not tech savvy enough to do so. I just hate being "followed" everywhere, it tells me what to"do" next because I have a routine, it doesn't swipe well. I just don't like it.
That was very informative. Guess I'm gonna keep my google phone at home to access things I need via wifi, and maybe degoogle one of my older phones, and switch sims.
Not being particularly tech savvy, I wonder if a de-Googled phone being serviced by anyone besides Rob Braxman could result in it becoming un-de-Googled. Do standard OS updates cause problems? And when do you know if an app's permissions will mess up your hard-won privacy. Do these phones come with sufficient instructions for neophytes?
I have a de-googled phone with Lineage Os and have never logged into anything google. What is a good browser to install? I believe you cannot use Firefox without getting a bunch of google crap.
If I want the convenience of banking on my phone, or having my car insurance company's app on my phone so I can show a digital insurance card to a cop or to pay my bill from my phone, will this work on a de-googled phone? If I install apps that do these things, will it defeat the purpose of de-googling?
u can degoogle all u want but as soon as u go on line through home wifi you are done. or simply having your phone ON during night is going to tie you to that address cause that's where u sleep. before you come home you really need to switch your phone off within 3-5 miles of your home address. but these days you can't switch your phone OFF unless you remove the BATTERY. even then it may have enough charge stored to beam your location for hours. that's when foil wrap and metal box go into place
I wanted to install a custom rom on my phone for a long time already for better customization purposes, now I have another much more relevant reason. Thanks!
Something I've struggled with degoogled phones is how inconvenient it becomes to people who have every service integrated in a Google account and use every little feature. After one year of using a degoogled phone I unfortunately gave up 😞
My only concern can I access my credit union app on a Degoogled phone. That's the main thing that holds me back from buying a Degoogled phone. I'm interested in trying but also Leary about it too. 73
Just when I thought TH-cam didn't have any content creators left worth following...I found you. You my friend are a Godsend. New Sub here....I will be getting de-googled. I only have two apps that concern me...one is Bank of America and the other is Google Authenticator. If I have to switch banks I will...but I won't be using Wells Fargo though.
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Rob answer 2 questions for me please: 1) if i were to switch to a degoogled phone would I regain the ability to record my phone calls again? 2) in spite of having phones that had VoLTE capability, like myself, everyone I know who regularly always used unlocked global phones with our carrier just recently had to switch to a dedicated carrier based phone because out VoLTE phone weren't compatible with any VoLTE systems the carriers were using here, are we going to face any of those VoLTE carrier compatibly issues with a degoogled phone? i desperately need my call recording ability back again.....thanks in advanced!
I see on your website that your phone has its own service. I see the unlimited plan has a limit on 7000 text per year, 19 per day on average. Is there a plan with more texts? Also what about mobile data, is it unlimited/ included? Really need another phone soon and I am trying to fully assess my options before spending hundreds of dollars on a phone. Please anyone can reply especially if you have bought and used a brax phone. Any help is most appreciated, thanks!
We need a phone with componets that can be disconnected physically, like removable batteries, or cameras that can be disconnected, and even being able to remove gps module, there is a a market for a product like this but it dosen't exist
@@robbraxmantech thank you for reply, Rob☺️ Yes, TH-cam studio works in browser on phone! I use it often - on my phone and tablet. You just have to enable desktop mode on the browser. Thank you again! ☺️🤗
@@robbraxmantech I mean, in order to use a TH-cam studio on a browser of our phone or tablet, we have to enable a desktop mode on a browser. And most browsers will let us using the TH-cam studio absolutely flawlessly :))) Otherwise it won't work!
More censorship? Did TH-cam block my Merch store? So here it is with de-Googled merch.
my-store-c37a50.creator-spring.com/
Are you filming from your bug out RV?
Did that happen during when Amazon went down?
@@WanderingAroundAZ A boat. Look at his other boating channel. Great channel.
what will it take to convince you to also publish your brax.me app on F-Droid?
I want to send you a Motorola Moto G stylus for you to de google, but i see it is not on your list.
Can you degoogle a Moto G stylus unlocked?
Hi Rob. This channel will grow because you are a very personable fellow. With a happy face, and quick wit, you deliver so much "bs-free" information that there's no time for filler. You talk to us like you are answering a question we asked. And, we want to hear it. Great channel.
Very kind of you!
i feel like this video literally answered SO many of my questions
I was going to say that…😁👍😂🤟🤟
That's why my channel will never grow. Because I am a dim wit.
Feeling liberated since switching to LineageOS without gapps.
@Marc-Andre Chiasson Samsung went south ever since they started locking their bootloader. I'm getting me a moto, too, after this Samsung phone I have now.
@Don Bravo And therefore you don't understand how privacy works.
@Marc-Andre Chiasson I love my note, so sad I won't be able to get another (I might just buy another unlocked note if I could find one). Also, I haven't heard about the screen leak on the moto.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 He deletid his comment, what did he say?
@@kusorarefan6667 I don't really remember. That's up to him if he deleted it.
Thank you, Rob for all your amazing & detailed content. I have reduced my Google exposure and will reduce it further in 2022 with your help. Looking forward to getting one of your de-googled phones. Keep up the Good Fight!
Installing Lineage OS on my phone was one of the best decisions I've made as far as phones are concern. It's a great way to get used to being without Google (or Microsoft or any of those other things). Break out of the Matrix. Get rid of big tech.
Hey Did you just root your phone and install?
Ya know Rob... I'm a pretty technically minded person and turn off very easily. I really must say you're extremely good at putting together really clear and concise videos and give very good technical explanations for advanced subjects to anyone that will listen.
That is an gift absolute mate. Seriously, keep it up. In this day and age people like yourself are very few and far between.
From an aussie in distress I thank you for your content! Every video like this helps the people protect themselves!
Have been trying to reduce my online footprint since i discovered your channel. Its amazing how far Google's arm actually reaches. Even when you least expect them .
My degree is in computer networking and my experience includes work with Dell Computer & Samsung Telecommunications. Hopefully that's enough to have confidence in my opinion that you're in the right place to learn and implement digital security changes to internet devices on this channel! Awesome information! Very helpful and much needed...and high tech info communicated on a level even non-techies can understand and act accordingly! Won over my subscription loyalty by a landslide!
Is there a way to contact you?
I de-Googled completely, including removing all Google Inc Apps such as Maps, Chrome and TH-cam !!!!
😉
Rob this was perfect timing in that I am on the market right now for a de-googled phone and needed this information! Looking forward to checking out your private email service soon! Thanks for the info.
He shows the reality of modernity and how we are being tracked, controlled by unlawful monopolies working in tandem with the govt. He is honest, and that is why his channel is growing.
Thank you for continuing this fight and making these videos. I know it must feel like herding cats sometimes. But your videos are so frank and rich with information, I find myself watching them several times to fully absorb the information.
Every time Rob says "a degoogled" my voice recognition activates. Stupid spying.
Why don't you turn it off?
I recently De-Googled a phone and installed Lineage myself. One reason I De-Googled is because I suspect Google also reads text messages if a person uses their messaging app and I don't trust Gboard . Thank you for all that you do.
Thank you for spelling out so CLEARLY which apps are safe on a de_Googled phone. I purchased a Moto G7 Plus from your company and I'm very happy with it. Only wish that what you've said in videos like this was available as a reference document for "do's and don'ts" with a Brax de-Googled phone on your web site. . . and were regularly updated You are doing GOD'S WORK here. We are eternally grateful. Keep it up and Salamat Po.
I was reading through various comments about this video and I just now had the thought that it would be helpful to see a list written out like you mentioned, and then I saw your comment! This could be helpful for many ppl for many different reasons. Some ppl are visual learners and it may stick better if they see it written down. Others who don't live in the tech world may need the repetition of referencing something written down multiple times before they will remember or accept the change (change, in general, is hard for most ppl, and maybe even more so when dealing with technology that often changes quickly anyway). Then there's also ppl who watch a lot of videos to educate themselves and they may not remember which video they saw the information they need in. Like if I watched this video today and made a mental note that I could use the Aurora store instead of the GooglePlay store once I have a deGoogled phone, but then a few months down the road (after watching hundreds more videos) when I'm actually taking action to start using my deGoogled phone, I may be sitting there trying to remember what the alternative store was called or even where to find the video or channel that I previously saw. Basically, I don't want to have to remember all the useful information I learn, but I want to be able to have quick access to the information at a future time when I need it.
@@stevev2292 EXACTLY my sentiment . . . You articulated it MUCH better than I could have. We live in a busy world and NEED a cohesive, coherent, ready reference to the INVALUABLE material Rob provides. Lord knows NO ONE else provides the kind of info Rob does.
Rob is one of those SUPER SMART people who don't need lists and references like most of us normies (or in my case, sub-normies) do. As far as I can tell, that's his only blind spot (but then again . . . I *am* a sub-normie ;-)
Yes! This is what we need! I've been meaning to sit through all of his videos and take notes and put them into a document.
@@lockergr dude, that would be a BIG project. HaHaHa, autocorrect tried to write pterodactyl instead of project. LOL.
Yeah, that would be a BIG pterodactyl!
And you’re going, What???
Anyway, if you DO create such a document Please make it available to others for a few dollars, $5, $6, $7
Many people are yearning for information about Braxmans stuff and Brax dot me chats and faqs sometimes difficult to navigate,
A pdf than I can print, highlight, scribble notes, refer to later would be great.
@@ionphillips883 I need some extra income, so I would willing to do that. I'm also super detail-oriented and that would help. But it would take a mammoth amount of time to go through each video and literally pick out the pertinent bits and document them. I'm happy to do this though for the de-Googled phone videos though.
Thank you for keeping our privacy!
Rob, this video was excellent! I watch most of your videos and don't have a problem with the tech lingo at all, but I thought this video laid out your subject matter so clearly and simply that I want to share it with people I know who are not tech savvy, but may be interested in this topic.
Great video Rob, this one I can send to a few folks that might be game for such a thing. I use a dumb phone but a lot of people don't want to lose their cameras/GPS apps.
Thank you!
Other benefits of a DE-GOOGLED phone:
✅ Extended battery life
✅ Faster CPU Performance
✅ Snapper touchscreen performance
✅ Faster internet speeds
Yes, double the battery life would be a good estimate.
Didn't techlore test default android vs a degoogled pixel 4 with android as well as one with calyx and the degoogled ones ended up performing worse in battery
@@killertigergaming6762 idk about google pixels since they come with almost no bloatware already, but after degoogling a 3 year old samsung, i noticed a huge increase in battery life
@@killertigergaming6762
Less background processes equals less CPU usage which means more battery life 👍
@@killertigergaming6762 I have three de6006l3d phones, all Lineage OS, one is a Pixel 4, the battery life is doubled on all of them.
Thanks 🙏🏽 Edu on this matter is critical ⚠️
I bought a pixel 3 at black Friday and installed grapheneos on it. 10/10 can really recommend!
Link to steps to do this?
@@BlackWat3rGTR TH-cam tutorial by lady on graphene OS installation... 12 minutes
Pixels have no external sd card for extra storage, right?
@@knothead35 Yes that's right... It also doesn't have a headphone jack, which might be a minus. However, it is the android phone model which receives updates the fastest and grapheneos itself is a very good choice for an OS
Great explanation of what does and doesn't work along with workarounds.
If more people understood their loss of privacy, they might value it more.
If more people valued privacy, we'd have more.
@Rob Bradman Tech•• Your spoofed account has something new?
Live and learn. Sir, my sincerest hope is this, “Being genuine with your audience.” I am fed up with the intrusive, clandestine and surreptitious behavior of these tech companies. I have often wondered “what are they hiding.” As a Marine Infantry O, I did not put my life on the line for America, to return home and experience these violations: blurred boundaries, et al. And there are many in my circle that do not appreciate this misbehavior. Semper Fi, Warrior
Big change since you started your channel, Mr. Rob. I hope you make live stream for actually de-googling a phone. Keep up the good work, sir. More power.
Too complicated for a video.
I'm loving the increase in production quality. The first 5 minutes explaining things were great!
I'm using a Pixel 4xl running CalyxOS that I modded myself. Very happy with it the last year I've been using it.
Love how you explained what the Degoogled phone is capable of. My main concern was the GPS navigation, but it looks like you think Waze is okay to use. Thanks, Rob!
It is not ok to use but sometimes we can't help it. So just don't log in
Actual GPS devices are still available, and are not connected to any internet services
I'd be interested in you talking about GPS devices and their safety Rob. I've been thinking of getting one to use since I need to navigate and do not want to use spy app.
Can't we just print off directions for directional purposes? That way we don't have to use GPS
Get yourself a used Garmin GPS and keep your phone for voice. I have bought a GPS at a thrift store for 10 bucks the only problem I need to replace the battery. If I keep the display low it works fine if I turn up the display the battery dies. A new battery will fix the problem. 73
You are doing a fantastic job with your channel and delivering useful information about tech. Education is key and as an IT support person I find the lack thereof a huge issue in the realm of consumers. More so than viruses, spyware and trojans.
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I beleive you provide a great service too educate some people like myself that does not know these issuses with phones Thank You .
All these unwanted apps takes up a lot of storage space!
I forgot to mention. When these Google apps are removed, the battery life DOUBLES. So that shows you how much spying is going on
Quick question: If the apps run in the phone, and had to require access to the OS in order to check for things like location, device ID, phone network, address book, etc. Why doesn't the OS provide a list of permissions available to the app? Like a sandbox where the app can only see what the OS grants them to see. I though that was the way mobile apps work, I don't see why using Instagram, Facebook, Twitter or TH-cam could compromise your privacy on the phone if they only know your current IP and sign-in information. Can you elaborate on that?
In order to run those apps one needs a google / gmail / email account for their identification purposes and from there your privacy is gone
Apps are restricted but Google apps are system level apps and can do anything. Facebook is different. They are like hackers. They try to break the OS and steal identifiers and Mac addresses. They have been blocked but they keep doing it.
@@robbraxmantech Interesting, so, Google Apps have system level access, and apps like Facebook work like a trojan horse... Can the free-stores cripple those "hacking" capabilities before posting the app for download? And overthinking the issue... Imagine being able to run this apps inside a virtual phone, I mean, just like some PC/Servers are able to run a virtual PC for just an app in order to isolate it.
@@stevejohanson4133 After dealing with censorship online, I changed my primary email address in most services like Facebook and Google, and I'm planing on using a different email forwarding address for each service in the future, but it is quite a challenge. I also use an off-line password management tool and all my passwords are 100% different and random, because of this offline database, I could use all this services with a different email address, but I didn't consider that most users use a Gmail account for their social network logins.
The apps are crippled because there's no Google Firebase. They get routed through MicroG which is a Google Service spoofer. So they don't get direct information from the phone. However, all apps can still track IP address so a VPN is still needed especially when at home
Thank you! More information than I can comprehends; but I appreciate that you know your subject area so well, and are earnestly trying to get out as much information that you can, AND, you seem to be honestly trying to help people. I have a bunch of truther sites I frequent. You are on my truther-tech-guy help list!
We are in 2022, and many dont realise your phone is your cyber version. It holds so much data, not caring how/who you share with is a road to compromised mental health. ✌
wow.. first video i see and i subed. So much info i have to rewatch many times and take notes !! thank you sir
In Sweden were pretty much forced to use a bank app called Bank ID, as it sounds for identification, its like a digital ID card... Guess will have to use a backup phone or computer for this?
Yes, likely so. So save your old phones
Great video. I've been meaning to get a de-Googled phone but just haven't gotten around to making the switch. It sounds like I would be a good candidate, as I don't use a lot of Google products on my phone, and the few I do use have alternatives or are just not needed for mobile.
Awesome video Rob, with a great synopsis of life on a de-Googled phone. Thanks for all your privacy efforts for the every day person.
Rob Braxman Tech,
You mentioned that you needed a Google Authenticator specifically for 2FA on Google products.
I have mine set up with a Yubikey, which does not require the Google Authenticator app at all.
If you find that you NEED the Google Authenticator app, you can always run a virtualized Android system like Bluestacks or LDPlayer just for the 2FA.
I did this for about two years when my previous phone was on its last leg and was about to break. I didn't want my 2FA tied to a phone that would break any minute (held together by duct tape, microSD card was superglued in, battery swelling, and the back panel was nearly off).
If you don't like the idea of the Bluestacks or LDPlayer due to privacy concerns, you can then run them on a virtualized Windows OS behind a Whonix gateway.
I hope this helps you get rid of having to carry around a Googled phone.
I was going to do a video about that. Yes, it's a great suggestion!
Perhaps, I may disagree on this statement:"logging out from Google will not to identify you any longer" - well, you may log out but your IP address and other hardware specs stays the same, it may be able to identify you unless you come out of Tor Exit Node or change your IP immediately after you log out. Is my understanding correct?
I’ve been wondering about that too
I think the assumption is you’re using a VPN because that’s best practice
I also plan to buy one of your de- Googled phones in 2022. Wishing you a merry Christmas as well, Rob.
Thank you for sharing this information Rob. I am in the process of moving my wife and I off our current phones. Sprint Dumped us (sold out 3g) and our phones are old enough we need to look to the future and not big Tech.
Enjoy laptops! They're fine and have big bright screens!
Degoogled tablets would be good I don't know how to do it and the bad thing it's a Samsung 12 inch tablet. Maybe Linux would work on the tablet I haven't got to that bridge yet. 73
How can I buy anonymously "burner" (or "gift") prepaid debit cards and prepaid "burner" phones; I don't want my transactions, movements, or locations tracked.
Use cash
Burner Phones are 1 time use so you may want to upgrade to a dumb phone or de-google'd phone for a long term solution. You could obscure some of your transactions a bit by making straw man purchases through friends and family. Be careful with crypto because some of them may actually be less private than you think they are.
Cash is king
Even with cash, the time and location that the card is purchased is known. They need to be activated to work, so they will be treceable in that regard. They will not necessarily be tied to an identity, and you could wear a mask, choose a different store/town you buy it in, but when you load your phone with its service data it will still be tied to the time/place the service was purchased. Unless you are hiding from the government though this info will probably not be used to find you, however. Most companies have easier ways of tracking you than this.
By definition No!! :) for a phone to work it has an international standard com protocol ... This allows all telecoms to track when the phone is powered. If you add a SIM the tracking becomes automatic as the SIM links the phone hardware to the phone & the service provider. The cost of breaking this is high. If you add 'apps' the number of service providers increases per app - locking this down is hard as each app provider is mining you. The minimization of available information is a goal here but anonamty is impossible. :(, at networks need an identity to work & the identity is persistent. The cost benefit is what needs consideration here as anon communication is IMPOSSIBLE, you can only raise the cost of breaking the offuscation/cryptology.
I subbed after watching half of this helpful video.
No panic, just facts. 👍
Happy to find out i have one of the supported phones for lineage os. Now i just gotta find out how to deal with things like Bank ID and such apps were pretty much forced to use here in Sweden. Worst case scenario is can use em on computer only wich really aint half bad.
What service provider can we use a de-Googled phone with? Thank you Rob for all you do
Like I said in the video, it's a standard phone. Phone and texts work normally so it works with all carriers that were originally supported by the phone
Phone support is hardware (Cell Baseband Modem) so that choice is not part of the OS but part of whatever the manufacturer created. Some modems (mediatek) do not work with Verizon. Only Qualcomm works with Verizon. Otherwise all carriers in the world are the same. Verizon is the only exception.
I'm really glad you all ask questions. Maybe it's time to explain all this in a basic video about how phones work.
Rob,
How do I find out if my bank aps will work?
I use:
- Navy Federal Credit Union
- USAA
- Pentagon Federal CU
- Schwab, and
- Webull?
Cheers,
Eric
The browser always works. You have to try each one individually
Excellent details presented with clarity. Thanks Rob!
Rob, understanding that there are no GAPPS on the phone, thanks for the details about using google in the browser. it's great to know if you have to use it, you can use it there seemingly safely after you clear your cookies & cache.
Correct. Clearing cookies stops the tracking. But remember that the only information taken is an IP address and device description. So you can even eliminate one identifier with a VPN
Hi Rob. Thank you for your dedication to privacy. How soon will a Moto G7 plus (blue) be available? Also, are there any smartphones NOT made in China?
How many times the "GOOGLE" word was used in this video?...1000, 3000,or 10.000 times???
Thanks Rob! Great (mind-boggling) information presented clearly--I almost understand it!
i used to use cyanogen mod on old samsungs. loved it. but it's time to get back in the privacy game!
Know it all before, but still thank you for spreading the information. In the end we will win.
there is really one feature I would miss: a decent camera. Are the OS camera apps any good?
De-Googling is GREAT--- but I thnk it's STUPID to De-GOOGLE a "GOOGLE PIXEL" phone-- just plain STUPID.... that's like saying I'll blindfold this fox and let him sit in the corner of the hen house!!
It is not only a privacy matter. A TH-cam channel is good help to make them the business. Or we are stupid or we are hypocrites.
In Dutch it would be OntGoogeld" what would sound the same as "ontgoocheld", translating to "Extremely Disappointed" or "left clueless" :-)
Excellent information Rob. I like audio books. How could I use them on de Google phone? I want to switch at some point
Hi Rob. Sounds perfect. Is that mean that huawei is already de-googled phone?
Laptops are just as easy to control and monitor via GWS.
All you need is firebase, android for devs, chrome, google cloud....
You then can stack it with as many libraries and other cloud services with certificates.
Think you can do a factory reset , wrong. Just set up a vm at boot with pub sub or i/o for persistence.
Those softwares SAY they don't collect anyting-- but you and I both KNOW- that if it's on the AIR- or ONLINE-- it can be ACCESSED... NO way to secure against it.
Next do De-Apple'd iPhone!
DO NOT BUY A GOOGLE PHONE!! I absolutely DESPISE my Google phone.
@Dean I can't argue with you because I'm not tech savvy enough to do so. I just hate being "followed" everywhere, it tells me what to"do" next because I have a routine, it doesn't swipe well. I just don't like it.
AOSP doesn't necessarily have to be the basis of a de-googled phone. I'm actually quite happy with my SailfishOS devices :-)
The baseband blob is reporting back to carrier and google includes location and phone is listening. It’s texting location data periodically to system.
That was very informative. Guess I'm gonna keep my google phone at home to access things I need via wifi, and maybe degoogle one of my older phones, and switch sims.
Not being particularly tech savvy, I wonder if a de-Googled phone being serviced by anyone besides Rob Braxman could result in it becoming un-de-Googled. Do standard OS updates cause problems? And when do you know if an app's permissions will mess up your hard-won privacy. Do these phones come with sufficient instructions for neophytes?
@Don Bravo how do know there's no support?
@Don Bravo well right now for me it's a better option.
Rob,
How do you maintain a TH-cam channel? Just desktop use only?
yes
I have a de-googled phone with Lineage Os and have never logged into anything google. What is a good browser to install? I believe you cannot use Firefox without getting a bunch of google crap.
If I want the convenience of banking on my phone, or having my car insurance company's app on my phone so I can show a digital insurance card to a cop or to pay my bill from my phone, will this work on a de-googled phone? If I install apps that do these things, will it defeat the purpose of de-googling?
Best I can do is use adb to debloat. Since all mine phones are missing the OEM unlock feature... I may just order a pine phone
u can degoogle all u want but as soon as u go on line through home wifi you are done.
or simply having your phone ON during night is going to tie you to that address cause that's where u sleep.
before you come home you really need to switch your phone off within 3-5 miles of your home address.
but these days you can't switch your phone OFF unless you remove the BATTERY. even then it may have enough charge stored to beam your location for hours.
that's when foil wrap and metal box go into place
You are not correct here. A de-Googled phone does not send a location out via telemetry. In fact a BraX2 phone does not have indoor location tracking
@@robbraxmantech
while u may be right...
I have to assume everything is compromised.
that's the only sure way.
I wanted to install a custom rom on my phone for a long time already for better customization purposes, now I have another much more relevant reason. Thanks!
Why don't you ever mention the Clear Cellular phones as options like the ClearPHONE 220 or 620? Do they not work as well as other de-Googled phones?
I use iodeOS on a fp4 with relocked bootloader, really happy about it
Actually lots of phones sold in China are de-googled, but we still feel being tracked. 😂
You are tracked by the CCP instead.
Hi Rob, Great info you have here. What crypto wallet do you suggest?
Would that contact tracing BS be why I periodically find my Bluetooth on when I don't turn it on?
Hi Rob! Thank you for all the very important information! Do gig workers have an issue? Thank you very much in advance!
We need Time Stamps Rob :)
Hi! Does Spotify, Sonos and Shazam work on a de-googled phone? Thank you. Your videos are very informative.
yes
I use Google Fi. Is that okay for the security phone?
Something I've struggled with degoogled phones is how inconvenient it becomes to people who have every service integrated in a Google account and use every little feature. After one year of using a degoogled phone I unfortunately gave up 😞
Well you make the choice to be dependent. There are other choices
My only concern can I access my credit union app on a Degoogled phone. That's the main thing that holds me back from buying a Degoogled phone. I'm interested in trying but also Leary about it too. 73
Just when I thought TH-cam didn't have any content creators left worth following...I found you. You my friend are a Godsend. New Sub here....I will be getting de-googled. I only have two apps that concern me...one is Bank of America and the other is Google Authenticator. If I have to switch banks I will...but I won't be using Wells Fargo though.
Iam close to being ready to purchase from you so this really helped me with a lot of questions
DE-GOOGLED Shirt 👍
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What is the best Phone to bit and rum lineage on? Is There any difference?
Hi Rob. What do you think of Faraday cages? Do they really work, can you buy them and can you make your own?
What's the best technology to use for running an online shopify business? I use a phone and desktop. Would laptop or tablet be better?
I wouldn't advertise Google authenticator, it's very hard to backup and restore
Thanks Rob, this was very informative.
Greetings from Germany, well reflected and informational.
Rob answer 2 questions for me please:
1) if i were to switch to a degoogled phone would I regain the ability to record my phone calls again?
2) in spite of having phones that had VoLTE capability, like myself, everyone I know who regularly always used unlocked global phones with our carrier just recently had to switch to a dedicated carrier based phone because out VoLTE phone weren't compatible with any VoLTE systems the carriers were using here, are we going to face any of those VoLTE carrier compatibly issues with a degoogled phone?
i desperately need my call recording ability back again.....thanks in advanced!
Thanks Rob! Great content as always! Try and get a hold of an early copy of the Tesla phone if you can. I’m curious if that will be a good option.
I see on your website that your phone has its own service. I see the unlimited plan has a limit on 7000 text per year, 19 per day on average. Is there a plan with more texts? Also what about mobile data, is it unlimited/ included? Really need another phone soon and I am trying to fully assess my options before spending hundreds of dollars on a phone. Please anyone can reply especially if you have bought and used a brax phone. Any help is most appreciated, thanks!
We have an unlimited plan. But this is phone service only. No data. No SIM. You need to use Wifi or some existing data
I have de-googled using calyxos and I love it!
Awesome video Rob, thank you!
We need a phone with componets that can be disconnected physically, like removable batteries, or cameras that can be disconnected, and even being able to remove gps module, there is a a market for a product like this but it dosen't exist
Thank you, Rob! 🌞😊🤗
What can TH-cam creators use on a de-Googled phone as a studio? Some browser?
I don't believe the TH-cam Studio works on a phone on the browser. Seems like a sizing problem
@@robbraxmantech thank you for reply, Rob☺️ Yes, TH-cam studio works in browser on phone! I use it often - on my phone and tablet. You just have to enable desktop mode on the browser. Thank you again! ☺️🤗
@@robbraxmantech I mean, in order to use a TH-cam studio on a browser of our phone or tablet, we have to enable a desktop mode on a browser. And most browsers will let us using the TH-cam studio absolutely flawlessly :))) Otherwise it won't work!
Yes you are correct! Hard to use that way though and some parts are buggy
@@robbraxmantech 😊 I like it on a tablet. Thank you, Rob! 🌞🤗
You really really need a 'dumb' phone .... You don't want your phone to tattle!