AND DO A TEARDOWN OF THE PS3!!!!!! Sure, there are alot of ps3 teardowns already on the net, but the internet needs a video of YOU tearing down the ps3, with YOUR COMMENTARY!
Shipping a PS3 fat in a slim box. Very fitting considering the fat was notorious for failures from bad thermal design and I had to get a slim as a replacement myself.
+Juan Reynoso i have my 60GB version since release, still works like a charm. Unlike 2 slims which i bought for my bedroom. Both had a broken BD drive. I think especially on forums and stuff, you'll read more from people who have problems, than from the ones without any. ;)
+Checkit53 Those 60GB were dope. I got an 80GB like 3 months after it came out and it failed on me twice. Graphics card the first time, BD second time. Got a slim, lasted me 2 years then sold it. PS for life
I've had my 120gb slim for about 4-5 years now.. nothing wrong with it, cept it likes to reset itself every now and again, so i need to input the date and have to reconnect it to the internet to reactivate my bought digital game licences. Won't even consider the super slim, it looks like garbage, but i've been looking for a fat with ps2 backwards compatibility, since both my ps2 controllers are broken, and its hard to find controllers
My mom had one of those checkbook calculators growing up, which I used on occasion. The original idea was that it fit inside a checkbook case and stored the values in memory so that you could keep track of money spent over time instead of having to write it down on paper. Some googling indicates they were made between 1982 and 1983.
Dave, a quick search for Fluke P/n 345496 shows it's from a 8000A, U3 "The Analog IC is an LSI device which contains a two-input multplexer, an amplifier, and a voltage controlled oscillator (VCO)."
the big NEC "yorke" is the mixed mode CPU for the hp48 G series. the two ICs on either side are the LCD controllers. The quad flat pack is the rom if i recall correctly and the IC next to it is the RAM
Nice, I was hoping to try to emulate some sort of remote sender for it one day, sadly it overheats very fast and starts smelling too much for me to dare leaving it on for long :/
follow up to the op-amp noise video would be a good idea for the sake of completion, I found it useful (although I am lazy when it comes to reading up on my electronics.)
Found this while searching for the Fluke chip I am trying to repair a Fluke 8000 meter. On the chip it says SC522 it is U3 on the schmatic. Here is the write-up of the chip. The Analog IC is an LSI device which contains a two-input multplexer, an amplifier, and a voltage controlled oscillator (VCO). The Part number from Fluke which contains multiple other parts is 345496, but it normally comes as part of the following parts "set': C14, C16, C R20, R56, R57, R58, AND U3 ARE A MATCHED SET. REPLACEMENT: ORDER "ANALOG RESISTOR SET", P/N 345496 Even Fluke's website does not list the part. And subsequent telephone conversations with Fluke indicate that they no longer have ANY relevant documentation on, or parts for, this meter.
19:29 Solder? 19:59 Test connector? :O I think you forgot that's there's an LCD in this thing. That crud is the adhesive that used to hold the LCD in place, and the connector is for controlling the LCD.
The PS3 uses a multi wavelength emitter laser diode. It would be interesting to see him make a project with stuff like this rather than just a quick comment on it. The diode has 3 outputs 405nm violet 650nm red and 780nm NIR. Run the 405nm and 650nm at the same time you get a pink laser *: )* No more than 25ma of current or it goes p00f! No more than 1mW output in a pointer either, or the .AU gov gets paranoid.
Its a ps3 GPU issue. The unleaded solder seems to be low quality amd after enough playing with dried out thermal paste the joints go cold. This is NOT a power issue or a disc issue. I have done extensive repair of these units over 250 units.
CPU ive never heard of one almost always gpu or southbridge. but ylod can happen for a number of reasons. Really any "cold" joint in the system can cause it. probably about 99% are GPU issues.
a fiducial is a spot on the pcb that is in a known location that the pick and place robot uses to get the correct part alignment, Dave said that it probably wasn't needed because it looked like the board was hand assembled. If you look up Dave's video on pick and place machines he explains it further in that video.
Also wanted to add Arctic Silver seems to be the paste of choice when fixing a PS3 with YOL, and Arctic Silver themselves says to use the "Line Method" with a little wiggle on the heatsink when applying the paste.
The YLOD overheat. What you have to do to fix this, is take apart the console, get to the logic board, get a blow dryer, and hover it over the logic board. Reassemble the console. and the YLOD will be gone. Hope this works for you Dave. From, Brandon
That's an external fan cooler unit most of those had cheap fans inside and wore out in no time. I had a Nyko fan and it sucked made loud noise after a few months.
Even here in the Netherlands we used to have a Tandy. And yeah you could walk in there and buy one resistor...or whatever part you needed to build your own stuff. Or repare someone elses.
Very true, as my neighbor had her original launch PS3 fry on her last year, and you could really smell the burnt chips, there was no chance of me repairing that one lol!
in my opinion, because your teardown will probably teach us some of the system engineering decisions that are part of the original ps3 design, keep up with the great work
You probably already know by now Dave. The Cannon check book Calc "Jumpers" these were silver loaded paint. very common where links are required and would have fouled the keypads. Also common in Philips car stereos saves solder links but they corrode causing a miriad of faults.
How nice that the letter arrived, hadn't expected it to make it that far so fast ;-) I have no idea what meter the Fluke parts are for, we only had the bags with the parts, and none of the meters. This bag was the oldest in the bin. I have a short video of the teletype in my channel, yt-video fqASeTzb9dE
The screen on that Sony reader might be fine. Mine has a similar "cracked screen" look when the battery dies. Recharging it might bring it back to normal.
Your video about noise in opamps was very interesting to me, I dont understand why it wasnt very popular either. I know the older version (I think?) of the Xbox had a similar problem with joints, but it was the GPU if I remember correctly.
Dave, that is the dreaded "yellow light of death" which the bga parts lose connections due to thermal stress. The most popular fix is a trip through a reflow oven(or as another commenter stated, a heat gun). This same issue happened with my ps3. Not having the confidence in myself I'll have it repaired by somebody else in the future. That and my fiance would kill me if I turned out toaster oven into a reflow oven!
that error is a simple solder flow failure on the CPU or GPU, classic error for any model after cech E01 and before the slims. green yellow red flashing LED error. I used to work for sony
I've still got my teletype printer. The guy I got it from added a serial interface, and he and I used it with old heatkit computers from the late 70s/early 80s.
My son made a big LEGO maze for those little hexbug nano last week. You can find them pretty much anywhere in the US. Great little robots. Ignore the online crap.
Yep even the original Wii has it's share of heat issues, I keep one as a spare Netflix box in the guest room, and when in standby it gets warm, so I keep it horizontal, and keep cheap USB laptop cooler under it, which helps.
I think the noise video was very good. If some people don't like theoretical videos that's their problem. Just do these educational videos, they're priceless for any engineering student like myself :) And you do them very well!
Cool checkbook calculator! I actually have one of those (somewhere), complete with it's matching fake leather checkbook. When I was younger, I used to use that, along with Q-basic Money Manager on my Sharp PC-7100 to keep track of my finances...
in the netherlands they charge 23 euro's if they inspected the package so basically if someone send you a package you sometimes don't even know what it is but you just have to pay for it.
hey Dave you can probably fix that PS3. the yellow light is akin to the red ring on the xbox360. you have to reflow the solder on the main processor with a heat gun. I did it with mine a year ago an it's still going strong.
Huzzah a graphing calculator was my guess at 13:13! Glad to see it was a beloved HP 48, no engineer should be without one. I dread the day when mine goes (48GX).
I got YLOD definitely from overheating an issue with he soldiers on the processors cracking can be fixed by reheating them, More than likely caused by the poor care of the system as well as the after market cooling junk, these after market coolers do nothing but mess up the factory cooling systems and cause a cooling battle resulting in death.
wierd pressing the power butten should turn it on(may want to hold it down for atleasted 2 seconds), myne looks mostly the same and its still working fine jet again I live in a' dry aria and my ports may be dusty but there not coverd in rust and decay, the cooler is after-marked and to be honest I've not seen before, but the bottem plate normely gets the hotested tho(srry for the spelling erros) If you ask me these one took a' dive off a' table, just looking by the missing plate
Yes! 707 Humboldt county California, redwoods! And as far you saying there is probably no value to you doing a teardown of the ps3, your opinion is always valued. Thanks for the videos
AND DO A TEARDOWN OF THE PS3!!!!!! Sure, there are alot of ps3 teardowns already on the net, but the internet needs a video of YOU tearing down the ps3, with YOUR COMMENTARY!
Hes getting slack...but takes out 20 screws from stupid calculator
If it was brand new and there wasn't a thousand videos out their already, I might be a little more excited perhaps.
Shipping a PS3 fat in a slim box. Very fitting considering the fat was notorious for failures from bad thermal design and I had to get a slim as a replacement myself.
+Juan Reynoso i have my 60GB version since release, still works like a charm. Unlike 2 slims which i bought for my bedroom. Both had a broken BD drive. I think especially on forums and stuff, you'll read more from people who have problems, than from the ones without any. ;)
+Checkit53 Those 60GB were dope. I got an 80GB like 3 months after it came out and it failed on me twice. Graphics card the first time, BD second time. Got a slim, lasted me 2 years then sold it. PS for life
+Hayden Meade interesting... I've had mine since 2007 and no issues with it ever. also to note it has gotten a substantial amount of use.
+Juan Reynoso i STILL have my fat! works fine!!
I've had my 120gb slim for about 4-5 years now.. nothing wrong with it, cept it likes to reset itself every now and again, so i need to input the date and have to reconnect it to the internet to reactivate my bought digital game licences. Won't even consider the super slim, it looks like garbage, but i've been looking for a fat with ps2 backwards compatibility, since both my ps2 controllers are broken, and its hard to find controllers
Loved it when the hexbug went under the fridge looked like he was thinking "Its gonna blow!" so adorable
yeah theres a hundred million teardowns of the ps3 but we wanna see YOU tear it down
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gompf
personaly im holding out for @Dave to tear it apart
thankies
Re Yours is pretty good too.
*declares random furry hugs only zone*
GODDAMNIT CINDY
Grown man and child alike can enjoy simple toys like the HexBug! :)
My mom had one of those checkbook calculators growing up, which I used on occasion. The original idea was that it fit inside a checkbook case and stored the values in memory so that you could keep track of money spent over time instead of having to write it down on paper. Some googling indicates they were made between 1982 and 1983.
"It's gone under the fridge!" ROFL Exactly where bugs belong, hahahahahaha!!!
Dave, a quick search for Fluke P/n 345496 shows it's from a 8000A, U3 "The Analog IC is an LSI device which contains a two-input multplexer, an amplifier, and a voltage controlled oscillator (VCO)."
The robot bug went under the fridge?! Oh, crikey! In a week your whole house will be crawling with those little buggers! :-)
I have that same Fluke 70 Series II! I found it buried, new in box, in an old filing cabinet in my school's electrical classroom turned IT classroom.
This was a great mailbag Dave. Enjoyed all the bits very much.
Neat! I'm addicted to the blog now. Keep up the great work all the best to you and your family.
the big NEC "yorke" is the mixed mode CPU for the hp48 G series.
the two ICs on either side are the LCD controllers.
The quad flat pack is the rom if i recall correctly and the IC next to it is the RAM
Nice, I was hoping to try to emulate some sort of remote sender for it one day, sadly it overheats very fast and starts smelling too much for me to dare leaving it on for long :/
Because your teardowns are unique. Damn even a simple calculator teardown done by you is thrilling.
Please do it.
follow up to the op-amp noise video would be a good idea for the sake of completion, I found it useful (although I am lazy when it comes to reading up on my electronics.)
Your Fluke parts kit is an 8000A analog IC and the compensation components.
I'd love a followup on the op amp video. The really educational videos are by far my favorites!
28:15 through 28:50 a damn funny sequence! Dave, you are a funny dude! Keep up the vids, I really enjoy them.
I think a follow up video to the current noise density vs frequency and calculations is a great idea
Found this while searching for the Fluke chip
I am trying to repair a Fluke 8000 meter.
On the chip it says SC522 it is U3 on the schmatic.
Here is the write-up of the chip.
The Analog IC is an LSI device which contains a two-input multplexer, an amplifier, and a voltage controlled oscillator (VCO).
The Part number from Fluke which contains multiple other parts is 345496, but it normally comes as part of the following parts "set':
C14, C16, C R20, R56, R57, R58, AND U3 ARE A MATCHED SET.
REPLACEMENT: ORDER "ANALOG RESISTOR SET", P/N 345496
Even Fluke's website does not list the part. And subsequent telephone conversations with Fluke indicate that they no longer have ANY relevant documentation on, or parts for, this meter.
so, it's been a few years, but if it hasn't been answered, the fluke parts are for an 8000a DMM
I quite enjoyed your noise video, and would give a vote for a current noise density video.
I would love to see the video on the op-amp current noise density.
I have no idea about moist of the stuff in these videos but I really enjoy watching them.
Haha moist.
***** moist.
You made me moist.
Those fluke parts go to the bench multimeter 8000A. Im sure someone has already mentioned that though.
nice mixed bag there, and loved the end part with Sagan +1
19:29 Solder? 19:59 Test connector? :O
I think you forgot that's there's an LCD in this thing. That crud is the adhesive that used to hold the LCD in place, and the connector is for controlling the LCD.
The board is from an SX model. It was from a friend of mine. It was spoiled from the batteries that leaked.
The PS3 uses a multi wavelength emitter laser diode. It would be interesting to see him make a project with stuff like this rather than just a quick comment on it. The diode has 3 outputs 405nm violet 650nm red and 780nm NIR. Run the 405nm and 650nm at the same time you get a pink laser *: )* No more than 25ma of current or it goes p00f! No more than 1mW output in a pointer either, or the .AU gov gets paranoid.
His approach will be... unique.
Really looking foward to it.
As long as we're looking at graphs there... popularity is not directly proportional to the quality of a video... I liked the noise video!
Its a ps3 GPU issue. The unleaded solder seems to be low quality amd after enough playing with dried out thermal paste the joints go cold. This is NOT a power issue or a disc issue. I have done extensive repair of these units over 250 units.
Electrics It can happen to the CPU or GPU.
CPU ive never heard of one almost always gpu or southbridge. but ylod can happen for a number of reasons. Really any "cold" joint in the system can cause it. probably about 99% are GPU issues.
True, but it is possible for it to happen on the CPU as well. The odds are much smaller but it's not impossible.
indeed however mentioning southbridge or cpu is pretty much a waste of time being as how rare they are.
a fiducial is a spot on the pcb that is in a known location that the pick and place robot uses to get the correct part alignment, Dave said that it probably wasn't needed because it looked like the board was hand assembled. If you look up Dave's video on pick and place machines he explains it further in that video.
I still have one of these. Remarkable that its never let me down. I use it as my only blu-ray player.
Dave you are right, there are allot of teardown videos for playstation 3 but no one explains every component like you do.
Also wanted to add Arctic Silver seems to be the paste of choice when fixing a PS3 with YOL, and Arctic Silver themselves says to use the "Line Method" with a little wiggle on the heatsink when applying the paste.
The YLOD overheat. What you have to do to fix this, is take apart the console, get to the logic board, get a blow dryer, and hover it over the logic board. Reassemble the console. and the YLOD will be gone. Hope this works for you Dave. From, Brandon
What are those dumbbell shaped holes on the that first calculator board for?
Hey Dave, those Fluke parts are for a Fluke 8000A DMM :)
Could you make a video on noise? And explain the units? (nV root Hz )
The Fluke missing a u3 seems to be a Fluke 8000A and it seems like you have a teardown of it on the blog by Reagle!!!
That's an external fan cooler unit most of those had cheap fans inside and wore out in no time. I had a Nyko fan and it sucked made loud noise after a few months.
I think your opamp noise video was really good. I been in electronics for a long time and have probably learned a thing or two from it.
red light is standby
blue is disc activity
green is system awake
yellow is bad
Even here in the Netherlands we used to have a Tandy. And yeah you could walk in there and buy one resistor...or whatever part you needed to build your own stuff. Or repare someone elses.
Probably fits something like my Fluke 77 that I first purchased when I was working on the computer controlled cars back in the 1980's.
Why? there are countless ones on youtube already.
I really hope you make another video about op-amp noise. I find those kind of things quite interesting about electronics :)
Very true, as my neighbor had her original launch PS3 fry on her last year, and you could really smell the burnt chips, there was no chance of me repairing that one lol!
test connector? thats where the lcd attaches :)
in my opinion, because your teardown will probably teach us some of the system engineering decisions that are part of the original ps3 design,
keep up with the great work
As we can see, Sagan already understands simple instructions , like TURN_ON(RIGHT_HAND) , PUT_DOWN(FLOOR). Well done!
You probably already know by now Dave.
The Cannon check book Calc "Jumpers" these were silver loaded paint.
very common where links are required and would have fouled the keypads.
Also common in Philips car stereos saves solder links but they corrode causing a miriad of faults.
Cool a death to the daleks Dalek!! Not only me that built one then!! Great video looks fun.
How nice that the letter arrived, hadn't expected it to make it that far so fast ;-) I have no idea what meter the Fluke parts are for, we only had the bags with the parts, and none of the meters. This bag was the oldest in the bin.
I have a short video of the teletype in my channel, yt-video fqASeTzb9dE
nooo Dave, please don't say "LCD-Display"...! (18:45)
grossstadthengst
How I hate these comments...sorry but that's how I feel.
The screen on that Sony reader might be fine. Mine has a similar "cracked screen" look when the battery dies. Recharging it might bring it back to normal.
I like longer mailbags. Thanks Dave!
Your video about noise in opamps was very interesting to me, I dont understand why it wasnt very popular either. I know the older version (I think?) of the Xbox had a similar problem with joints, but it was the GPU if I remember correctly.
Another excellent video Dave!! Good on ya!
Sagan is growing so fast! I feel like if I miss a few videos he might grow up.
hahahha the postcard is german and says lovely greetings from space-time labs xD
Lux Ferre And it's not beer on it, it's club mate :)
What u talking about
+Lux Ferre "club mate" is the drink displayed on the german postcard, which dave thought looked like beer. it's a kind of tea that contains caffeine.
i tired it myself
+Lux Ferre Just looked like Dave P's comment confused you. What was the "What u talking about" about, then? :P
Dave, that is the dreaded "yellow light of death" which the bga parts lose connections due to thermal stress. The most popular fix is a trip through a reflow oven(or as another commenter stated, a heat gun). This same issue happened with my ps3. Not having the confidence in myself I'll have it repaired by somebody else in the future. That and my fiance would kill me if I turned out toaster oven into a reflow oven!
that error is a simple solder flow failure on the CPU or GPU, classic error for any model after cech E01 and before the slims. green yellow red flashing LED error. I used to work for sony
I've still got my teletype printer. The guy I got it from added a serial interface, and he and I used it with old heatkit computers from the late 70s/early 80s.
My son made a big LEGO maze for those little hexbug nano last week. You can find them pretty much anywhere in the US. Great little robots. Ignore the online crap.
Yeah the FLuke ic 522 IS definitely for a Fluke 8000 , I have one and it has two of them inside.
Yep even the original Wii has it's share of heat issues, I keep one as a spare Netflix box in the guest room, and when in standby it gets warm, so I keep it horizontal, and keep cheap USB laptop cooler under it, which helps.
Great video mate! Laughed myself silly at the end.
17:57 this image should show up when you google the word "crusty"
I would love to see your opinion on the design and engineering of the ps3!
Pretty bloody expensive would be my guess! In the hundreds of dollars range.
I noticed your Siglent SDG5082 is sitting up there on your shelf... Care to send it over?
I think the noise video was very good. If some people don't like theoretical videos that's their problem. Just do these educational videos, they're priceless for any engineering student like myself :)
And you do them very well!
Cool checkbook calculator! I actually have one of those (somewhere), complete with it's matching fake leather checkbook. When I was younger, I used to use that, along with Q-basic Money Manager on my Sharp PC-7100 to keep track of my finances...
Now they're preserved and free from static.
the best thing about phats is how well they fit in the trash
fiducials allow automated assembly equipment to accurately locate and place parts on boards. please read Fiducial marker wiki, pcb section
in the netherlands they charge 23 euro's if they inspected the package so basically if someone send you a package you sometimes don't even know what it is but you just have to pay for it.
"Who needs religion when you've got this" had to have been the best thing I've ever heard.
did i see a clutch shoe for a nitro engine when you pulled it out of the box?
Sagan is so cute!
hey Dave you can probably fix that PS3. the yellow light is akin to the red ring on the xbox360. you have to reflow the solder on the main processor with a heat gun. I did it with mine a year ago an it's still going strong.
If I would work in the australian post office all of your post would get open :D
NANO [Bristle] Hex Bug going under the Fridge was totally worth it.
Hi Dave, your videos always make me happy, thanks! greets from Spain EU
Huzzah a graphing calculator was my guess at 13:13! Glad to see it was a beloved HP 48, no engineer should be without one. I dread the day when mine goes (48GX).
Nice :)
It is "RaumZeitLabor", and means "SpaceTimeLabroratory" :)
I got YLOD definitely from overheating an issue with he soldiers on the processors cracking can be fixed by reheating them, More than likely caused by the poor care of the system as well as the after market cooling junk, these after market coolers do nothing but mess up the factory cooling systems and cause a cooling battle resulting in death.
Awesome ending mate! Made my day. Also, a "real" teardown of the PS3 would be appreciated.
wierd pressing the power butten should turn it on(may want to hold it down for atleasted 2 seconds), myne looks mostly the same and its still working fine jet again I live in a' dry aria and my ports may be dusty but there not coverd in rust and decay, the cooler is after-marked and to be honest I've not seen before, but the bottem plate normely gets the hotested tho(srry for the spelling erros)
If you ask me these one took a' dive off a' table, just looking by the missing plate
Sagan's reaction to the hexbug was priceless!!
LOL... another immortal quote (re: the magic jack) "yechh... metallized plastic... it just makes your skin crawl, it really does"
13:20 it's, a Hewlett-Packard 48 series calculator board.
Yes! 707 Humboldt county California, redwoods! And as far you saying there is probably no value to you doing a teardown of the ps3, your opinion is always valued. Thanks for the videos
Hahaha ... that is so weird, I was actually playing around with one of those HexBugs with my dog when I watched this.
"And the correct technical term for that is *crusty*". I died laughing at that.