Read somewhere that the difference between an artist and a graphic designer is that an artist tries to solve their problems where as a graphic designer tries to decipher someone else's problem. So, as an aspiring watercolor artist getting my work to be at the level of Eudes Correia is a daily struggle, but as a graphic designer, I hit the mark 80% of the time on the first iteration.
as an artist, i just see it as creation at will and you always show up for yourself as to not cheat yourself from an experience, the only big thing i learned from design school is how to work with intentions, parameters and deadlines, and communicating with others. at every turn, decisions are made, all of them are an act of expression. from my time in corporate; when i am the artist, i generate the artwork, when im the designer i compose with artwork (i or someone else generates the artwork), when im the director, i manage the artist and the designers. now that i'm on my own i just call myself an artist, i partake in creation at will.
When they were introducing and said they were middle childs. I'm like hell yeah me too! I feel I'm one of them lol. But aside from that, truly engaging and fun to listen/watch. Tons of value!
This was amazing thank you. I switched to Bloom after hearing Chris mention it and I am thrilled. Gamechanging CRM. For real. More than a CRM. Thank you!
As a professional product designer, I see the difference of the artist and designer as self-imposed artistic boundaries versus client imposed boundaries. Self-expression as an artist can happen in both. The question is are you comfortable with someone else's boundaries instead of your own? Taken to the extreme, sometimes clients have a strong vision and they don't give you much room for expression. In those instances where I feel that my self-expression could be more beneficial than the client's vision. I show them both. You have to give the client what they're asking for but you also should give them something with it if you believe it's better and have clear reasons why. Sometimes clients will agree and change their vision to adapt your expression. Sometimes they don't. That being said, I feel like my relationship with art is different now than when I just did it for fun. I do miss that old relationship.
🎉🎉🎉 Well that’s it - I guess I need to leave my wife and kids and go to Tahiti (Catalina more likely) to find my true calling! I’m Audi 5000! Thanks for the advice Chris! Should I leave a note or just a link to this video? 😂😂😂❤❤❤LMAO!!!! 1:18:24 (52 year old recovering graphic designer transitioning from “digital artist/technician” to design strategist/mentor).
But, what if the freelancer just delegate some parts of the job to another person while he keeps working on most of it? Even then we can not say it's a freelancer anymore? Example: I develop web apps, but it goes faster when I hire a designer to prototype the UI with the flow I got from the talks with the customer... So, just because I delegated this part of the job to a more suited person to execute, than I can't say it is freelancing anymore?
@@thefutur many many things, but mostly a deeper dive into growing as an independent business owner/freelancer. - a lot of business is done remotely: how does one self-regulate and self-assess when they are a business of one at home? (looking into situations objectivity when you have no checks/balances). - what's the process of transitioning from freelancing for agencies to working "direct to client". How would you do this proactively? - how do you assess whether a skill is "freelancable" or not. - how much control do you believe freelancers/independant business owners over the course of their career? a lot of this can feel like bumper bowling, what's the process fo taking the reigns? - also just dealing with the emotional side of running a business alone.
Slap my head. Jamie and the other dude are dead wrong on the name "Freelancer". Give me 100 people, have 50 call themselves a Freelancer, and 50 call themselves Business Owners and see who is valued more, who can charge more, who values themselves more.
Getting a commission does not mean you're not doing art. That's very small brain thinking. DaVinci, Michaelangelo, and on and on....every major art piece was done as a commission. So the ceiling of a chapel wasnt art because it was commissioned ...come on guys. Sometimes we speak so deeply that our heads are in the sand.
when you're commissioned, you have a job to do-make the client happy. you make changes (as many artists, even the greats do). the work can be beautiful and even artistic or works of art. to be an artist, in it's pure sense, is making something for yourself. otherwise, everything is art. and then nothing is art.
No way! The Futur and Jamie Brindle collab?! Am I dreaming?!
Read somewhere that the difference between an artist and a graphic designer is that an artist tries to solve their problems where as a graphic designer tries to decipher someone else's problem. So, as an aspiring watercolor artist getting my work to be at the level of Eudes Correia is a daily struggle, but as a graphic designer, I hit the mark 80% of the time on the first iteration.
38:00 Literally the thing that everyone first looking into Chris Do needs to hear. No question.
Two of my favorite people in one place! Such a dream come true for me - great job organising this valuable podcast, Paul!
Thank you Harry
Let's do it again but this time get you over here as well!
Thank you! It was a great conversation and I hope we'll do more.
@@thejamiebrindle That's a great idea and a must!! Can't wait to see a convo between you guys!
Best Monday morning content I've seen for a while ❤
46:46
Man, I'm very impressed by this guy. He is very self-aware and thinks clearly. Full of value. Respect. Introvert powers!
Which guy?
@@thefutur You.
WOW! Icons in one room! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Man this was a good one, whenever I feel stuck as a designer I just come back here.
We here for you.
I have found my passion and find your content helpful in learning to apply my skills in a better manner. Closing without selling.
as an artist, i just see it as creation at will and you always show up for yourself as to not cheat yourself from an experience, the only big thing i learned from design school is how to work with intentions, parameters and deadlines, and communicating with others. at every turn, decisions are made, all of them are an act of expression. from my time in corporate; when i am the artist, i generate the artwork, when im the designer i compose with artwork (i or someone else generates the artwork), when im the director, i manage the artist and the designers. now that i'm on my own i just call myself an artist, i partake in creation at will.
Such a great talk for a Monday's morning coffee, thanks so much guys!☕🙌 Oh, and I love Chris's classy set🤌
Our pleasure!
When they were introducing and said they were middle childs. I'm like hell yeah me too! I feel I'm one of them lol. But aside from that, truly engaging and fun to listen/watch. Tons of value!
This was amazing thank you. I switched to Bloom after hearing Chris mention it and I am thrilled. Gamechanging CRM. For real. More than a CRM. Thank you!
Thanks for this informative discussion - it really helped me better understand what it is to be a freelancer vs an independent business owner.
Deeply agree with the fishing addition ...
Great discussion from people that really make a difference in content creation and helping people become their better selves.
Always great, wise conversations when I come to the Futur ❤
What an awesome video, thank you guys, and thanks a lot Chris
That’s so profound. Outbound lead generation vs content creation. I’ve been doing the former, and need to do the latter.
Own your shadow, it's your after all.. Great time watching this, thank you Chris.. Cheers from Greece. :)
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers.
Dannnnnng
What a collab!
Brilliant, great segmentation. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for this thoughtful discussion. Very informative and helpful!
You are so welcome!
WHEN I SAW THESE TWO IN ONE PLACE ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Love the Blazer Chris!
Thank you ❤
You're welcome 😊
As a professional product designer, I see the difference of the artist and designer as self-imposed artistic boundaries versus client imposed boundaries. Self-expression as an artist can happen in both. The question is are you comfortable with someone else's boundaries instead of your own? Taken to the extreme, sometimes clients have a strong vision and they don't give you much room for expression. In those instances where I feel that my self-expression could be more beneficial than the client's vision. I show them both. You have to give the client what they're asking for but you also should give them something with it if you believe it's better and have clear reasons why. Sometimes clients will agree and change their vision to adapt your expression. Sometimes they don't. That being said, I feel like my relationship with art is different now than when I just did it for fun. I do miss that old relationship.
Love this!
Thanks for sharing your wisdom🙏🏻
You are so welcome
This is golden!
love the podcast :) the channel is better and better all the time :)
Glad you enjoy it!
This one is gonna be super interesting! 😊 Thank you! 😊👍❤️
Hope you like it!
Interesting conversation, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
>tragic story
>"Love it"
was antother amazing talk.
excellent!!
"I'm a recovering Graphic Designer". LMFAO
thanks a lot n very nice chairs btw 😅
You're welcome 😊
🎉🎉🎉 Well that’s it - I guess I need to leave my wife and kids and go to Tahiti (Catalina more likely) to find my true calling! I’m Audi 5000! Thanks for the advice Chris! Should I leave a note or just a link to this video? 😂😂😂❤❤❤LMAO!!!! 1:18:24 (52 year old recovering graphic designer transitioning from “digital artist/technician” to design strategist/mentor).
But, what if the freelancer just delegate some parts of the job to another person while he keeps working on most of it? Even then we can not say it's a freelancer anymore? Example: I develop web apps, but it goes faster when I hire a designer to prototype the UI with the flow I got from the talks with the customer... So, just because I delegated this part of the job to a more suited person to execute, than I can't say it is freelancing anymore?
What I would give to be on a podcast with y'all
what would you want to ask/say?
@@thefutur many many things, but mostly a deeper dive into growing as an independent business owner/freelancer.
- a lot of business is done remotely: how does one self-regulate and self-assess when they are a business of one at home? (looking into situations objectivity when you have no checks/balances).
- what's the process of transitioning from freelancing for agencies to working "direct to client". How would you do this proactively?
- how do you assess whether a skill is "freelancable" or not.
- how much control do you believe freelancers/independant business owners over the course of their career? a lot of this can feel like bumper bowling, what's the process fo taking the reigns?
- also just dealing with the emotional side of running a business alone.
@@_m3atball Yes yes!
Hey
First?
Slap my head. Jamie and the other dude are dead wrong on the name "Freelancer". Give me 100 people, have 50 call themselves a Freelancer, and 50 call themselves Business Owners and see who is valued more, who can charge more, who values themselves more.
And?
@@thefutur ppl who see and talk about themselves as Business owners will outperform ppl who see and talk about themselves as freelancers no doubt
Getting a commission does not mean you're not doing art. That's very small brain thinking. DaVinci, Michaelangelo, and on and on....every major art piece was done as a commission. So the ceiling of a chapel wasnt art because it was commissioned ...come on guys. Sometimes we speak so deeply that our heads are in the sand.
when you're commissioned, you have a job to do-make the client happy. you make changes (as many artists, even the greats do). the work can be beautiful and even artistic or works of art.
to be an artist, in it's pure sense, is making something for yourself. otherwise, everything is art. and then nothing is art.
yay yay yay long video!