Still Worth It? Two Month X1 Carbon 3d Printer Updates
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In todays video we take another look at Bambu Lab's X1 Carbon 3d Printer. This printer blew me away when I first got to test it out a few months ago and has had quite a few updates since. We will go over those updates, the state of the Kickstarter and when ordering will be available.
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I still prefer open source printers (currently building VzBoT330) but really applaud Bambu Labs for shaking up the industry at lower price points. I hope to see more of these turnkey printing capabilities becoming commonplace for the hobbyist/enthusiast.
It's going to make ultimakerbot actually have to make good printers and not just slow expensive machines like they have in the past.
Not just open source, but being part of widely sourcable parts ecosystems rather than a bunch of NIH'd stuff.
yea with how automatic it is, will see if it improves, so far not that impressed with glitches in firmware
I've been using my one for a few days, definitely a hobbyist game changer that is true plug and play.
@Cthulhu No. Supposedly it's running its own firmware that's not even a pirated fork of one of the big open source ones (which is what most closed source printers do) but completely their own thing they wrote from scratch.
Super happy with mine, all of my prints have come out perfectly so far. The quality is great, I thought my last printer had amazing quality but the x1 carbon is even better. I hope hope hope they decide to make a bigger one in the future.
In the future yes bigger would be nice. But I wonder how much extra it will cost
@@TripleJAu 400x400x400 id happily pay another $1000
@@Xploit66 so would I... My question would be are would the bigger machines be cheaper or not.
@@TripleJAu I think that they would charge a fair bit more since there is probably a smaller over all market for it. how ever, most of the cost of making the printer would be the same since they could reuse all of the same electronics just making things like the frame, gantry, build plate, etc. larger. It realistically wouldn't cost them that much more to produce especially given the volume discounts they must get on materials. But the issue is the market is smaller, and a good chunk of the people that want a larger build volume want it because they "need" it so they could charge a premium for it.
The x1 carbon is actually incredibly cheap for what it is but thats largely because they're trying to break into a new market (for them) and get a decent market share.. once they do that they won't have to be so competitive with pricing (I hope they do continue to innovate and keep the prices down though and don't get greedy the moment they are able to)
@@Xploit66 i agree, they probably can jump to the professional with this software and all the feature they have and they can do it building a heated chamber printer even with the same printing volume as the x1 and they could charge a lot more
Thank you for the update and putting out the videos. Just put an order in for one today. Super excited to get my hands on it.
With my X1C, I can blame every print failure on my own mistakes, instead of trying to figure out what was wrong with my printer like I did with my Ender 3.
same here. My intended hobby was never fixing printers. It was to 3d model and print it out. Finally I can do that with my X1C and not figet with my ender 3 till a mediocre junk comes out. And the guy on top, LOL, if you don't think any problems are problems well then its flawless. Just like the drug problem in the US, make it all legal so its no longer illegal, just want random high people that walk like zombies roam the streets :)
Thank you for the update!!
Thanks for the video. I've never 3D printed before. Very excited! Just ordered the X1 Carbon. Gonna be making car parts. Great job on the video.
Interesting printer/video 😀
Thanks for sharing your expirence with all of us 👍 😀
Just got mine, pretty unreal for my first filament printer, coming from a. SL1S it's detail is superb still and it's lightning fast. I used up the whole 250g roll in my first print 🤣
You definitely got my like and subscribe. Wish I could have a fraction of your "go get em' " with TH-cam like you. Love watching but I definitely can't do the making. I'll be following for sure. Thank You for your content and reviewing my new to ship printers. 👍🏼
Ordered mine this week!! Can't wait to get started!!
Thanks for the update
I am really looking forward to getting mine, and after seeing this video I'm even more excited for it. Those carbon fiber nylon prints look *amazing*, holy cow!
Getting mine in Wednesday. I’m am a complete newb, but got excited when I saw who was behind Bambu, and pulled the trigger. Havnt been this excited in a long time.
It’s the best printer out right now I did the preorder and can’t wait to get them.
I've been looking for a video exactly like this.
Love to see it!
Have had mine for a week now and it's just awesome. Learned very quickly to use the glue stick or hair spray as a release agent as petg will weld itself to the surface of the cold side . Other than that screw up ( my fault ) it's amazing.
The app works great with the built in camera to monitor the print .
Have printed Pla , petg , ASA , and with the included bit of cf nylon and so far so good.
How much did you pay??
We now have a brand new technology for the build plate
Got my unit last night. To be honest its incredible that I got everything they advertised and I hoped for/expected. A couple negatives I noticed so far though is that overhangs dont print the best even in PLA, and the cool plate sticks WAY too well for PLA without glue stick. Im just going to continue to send it and see what happens lol.
I had the same problem, that my prints stick to much on my Prusa. The solution was, that I just degrees the temperature of the build plate.
Bamboo labs recommends you use to glue stick to actually make it not adhere as much. I know that sounds counter intuitive but it puts a somewhat weekend barrier between the plate and your build. I recommend trying that and using supports for any overhangs over 45° and you should be good
Was curious if you would issue an update. Thanks for doing so. Very glad the experience has only improved. With the Prusa delay, Bamboo should see a big uptick in purchases.
Same at FLSUN :D Those two will rock the winter
Got mine yesterday and its awesome so far. I already switched to the Energetic PEI smooth build plate. Works perfect and no more glue.
Where'd you source it?
Where did you get that plate from and what size did you buy? It would be very helpful to know. Thank you.
Thanks for another good video.
This printer definately stoped a lot of printers in there tracks what a great printer i have been looking for something but i wanted to see how it did due to the fact that this is bambu first printer so i wasnt sure if there was going to be something even better coming in there 2nd or 3rd release.
Got mine and lovin it. Keep up the good work. Always look forward to your videos.
I have watched your videos for years Xbox days was never into the 3d printing stuff but recently bought a CR3 Pro and heavily modified it why not but got bored of the effort needed to do 2 colours just pre ordered X1 Carbon because of this video
Glad yours is running well. Just recieved mine the other day. After a few prints nothing is sticking to the bed anymore.
The bed needs to be perfectly clean.
This will be my next printer. It's pretty incredible, for the price.
Well structured printer. I like it
That CF-nylon print is outstanding! I find the biggest challenge printing in the Polymide PA6CF that I have is bridging. Have you tried any prints with significant bridging?
Dont know about PA6CF, only using PA12CF15 because I like the low moisture absorption and this material is soooo easy to work with, overhangs down to even 20° and long bridging no problem. Layer heights of 0,16/0,15mm wiith a 0,4 nozzle work perfectly
The PA-CF filament from Bambu Labs has a mix of PA6 and PA12. "Bambu PA-CF is a family of Bambu 3D printing engineering filaments, mainly consisting of PA6, PA12 and carbon fiber." I just sent them an email asking about proportions.
Mine sucks at it. 3 non failed filled nylon prints on 20.. two zero. Attempts. I tried everything.
@@WeAreSoBackBros bambu recommends only using .06 nozzle with cf filaments
They seem like a really good brand and I have heard amazing things about this printer. I have 4x ender3's from the v2 to the s1 pro and I really wish I had just gotten one of these instead of my last 3 printers. 1 ender 3 is great for learning and stuff but the amount of maintenance I have to do on these printers is making it very difficult to run a business
I really wish more people would speak out like you have. People need to stop pushing creality on people. You want the printer to be your hobby thats fine, want a tool or something to teach kids with and your stuffed.
I prefer printers like the voron for being open source and being capable to be fixed with generic parts, plus, a decently tuned voron 2.4/trident/vzbot330 and such can outperform the Bambulab, however i really appreciate the effort putted in this machine
100k subs, lets go!
I might have missed this in your other videos of the X-1, but what is the overall dimensions with the AMS system attached? I couldn't find it on BambuLabs site either. Thanks
Nice that we have a real game changer here !
Just for clarity: air shipping wasn't an add-on option you could ask for. Air shipping was required for certain destinations where ground and sea wasn't available. It did have a side effect of getting printers to backers in certain countries faster. :)
That said, early backers in Canada, the US, and I think the EU are all seeing their sea-transported printers showing up. Mine came 3 days ago, and I'm super happy! Glad to hear that 2 months in you're not seeing any unexpected issues.
Still waiting on mine in Germany, even though I have a low backer number.
@@DisorderedArray Me too, backer number something between 150 and 160, still waiting. I already got some spare parts in july from the EU warehouse though 😊
I still really want to pick one of these up.
How sharp are corners when using the fast modes. Is the printer really tight or is resonance comp doing most of the work?
I am VERY glad they have kept to their word, promises, etc.
Oh interesting they are doing stickers for the beds. hmmmmm
CF Nylon is an amazing material and the Bambu seems to do a stellar job on it!
Thank you
Bambu labs resin printer next 🤞👀
Hello, with AMS, this printer automatically recognizes the type of wire placed and adapts the settings accordingly?
Is it possible just buying a magnetic PEI or PC-flex plate ?
can you check out the snapmaker j1 once it is released? it is basically an IDEX bambu x1.
Maybe I missed it in your other videos but what CNC do you have?
My question that kept me from backing is what happens when something breaks? I'm guessing that you are screwed
Does it require internet connectivity to work? I'd like to learn more about that.
Did you print the Ender 3 belt Z mod there 5:33?
Which one do you recommend, the BambuLab X1/Carbon or the Prusa MK3S+?
Is that fuzzy skin on the CF Nylon piece? The outer shell looks good.
Website says this unit is 15" wide, is this accurate? it looks wider, building cabinets right now and hoping they are wide enough for this unit
Well, it looks amazing and there seems to be a pretty good price/quality ratio. Still, since I'm a casual user, I don't sell what I print and I only print something that I need, for example cover pieces for the ends on the staircase fence, covers for air ducts, a gear for a power tool that broke... The prusa mini I have, sits idle most of the time. I may not print anything for a month, then maybe spend 24-48 hours printing non stop, then nothing for a couple of weeks, then a 6 hour print, and so on. I think this printer is too expensive for someone like me. I might be much more inclined to purchase, even for a slightly higher price, if the build volume was as large as that of prusa xl, that is 8 times the volume of the mini, x1 is just under 3x mini's volume. Just today I wanted to print something that goes right to the limit of 180mm, which fits, but not with added supports. So, bummer.
That's what I found. Selling plastic parts and making a living off of it is very difficult. Yes, it's fun to design things but unless your prints are perfect, customers will not want to spend more than what they are accustomed to seeing with inkection-molded parts.
Is this a good intro 3D printer for us new users?
How strong carbon fiber gear vs metal gear? I curious about its.
WIll Cura work with this at all if printing in a single filament?
Have seen it yet but a like and thanks anyways! 👍🏻
y first of hopefully 5 is on its way to me, HOwever im very concerned about the postage carrier they use here in australia. Only time will tell i suppose. Fingers crossed.
Will you compare this to prusa xl multi extruder version?
My fear is bamboo is going to turn into apple, open source is the life blood of this.
At what speed did you print your GFN?
You moved to Idaho!! Where at boise area???
This printer is looking fantastic! Our college campus has an aging TAZ 6 and Workhorse lineup of printers and I'm thinking this might be a good replacement. The print failure detection I think is the biggest seller since currently students are banned from doing overnight prints.
Does your college have enough that they're networked/managed?
Prusa needs to up their game
All I can think about now is an ams that can melt together filaments and and make colors from Hex Codes
Ironic that your screen cap about better menu systems had a big misspelled “calibration” header
What is that dryer you showed around 8minute mark?
What brand is that carbon fiber nylon filament?
I'm glad you got one to play with. I'm experiencing bad customer service from Bambu Lab so far. After 9 days of numerous emails and an opened service ticket I still get a run around "scripted" responses from Bambu Lab about my returned package since I wasn't home to sign for it. All I need to know was if they could redeliver so I can plan my works accordingly but can't seem to get an answer to it. I think they outsourced their customer service to a remote third parties so all I got were scripted answers to a simple question. Bad customer experience with Bambu Lab so far.
You comment this a lot on like on everyone’s videos. Shut up already.
They have acknowledged the staffing shortage. I must say as a business owner myself, staffing post Covid is a nightmare. Seems no one wants to work. Having said that is seems that 120 people in total was launching a product far before they should have. But they get an “A” for effort. They are certainly trying hard.
What's the difference between both models (X1-Carbon vs the X1)?
I got my bambu yesterday.... The boat printed fine but then i went to print the spool and it always spaghettis on me. Idk why, i printed the scraper after n that printed fine as well.... I just don't know why the spool wont print correctly 😢
In your opinion what is the all around best when it comes to quality and all around the best the creality cr10s pro v2 vs the flsun super racer
Now def the V400. its a 2x better version of the super racer :)
Would you say the X1 Carbon is worth the extra money over just the X1? My CR10 V2 has honestly annoyed me for many years but has been working, lol . This printer would be so good for me
If you want the camera($50), Hardened steel nozzle ($15), Hardened Steel Extruder Unit($50), side blower fan($30) and metal and glass construction(x1 is plastic and glass), carbon filter($6) its worth the extra $200 if you want the metal case over plastic and everything installed vs doing it piecemeal.
If you arent doing anything abrasive (glow in the dark, carbon fiber, fiberglass infused, wood filament etc)and X1 is fine.
@@No0o0o0o0o0 I just checked the website again and down the line looks like you can upgrade the X1, thank you for your reply it is very helpful
anyone blown away about its speed obviously never used klipper. Been on that for at least 4-5 years.
Wherabouts in Iderho? I live in Rexburg (home of Brigham Young Universtiy (Idaho)).
I noticed they don't offer PETG (my primary printing material) on their filament selection. Can any PETG be used, and the color(s) selected in the slicer?
Same question
@@limebulls same question
PETG is supported.
How loud does it get while operating, and how does that compare to others? Also, is there any air filtration on this printer, like others, and if so, does it have a HEPA filter? Last question, is this a user friendly and easy to use printer for beginners? Thanks to anyone who responds. Can’t wait to get feedback.
It's a very loud printer, which comes with the territory when you're buying something that operates at such high speeds.
There's a carbon air filter. Not HEPA.
It's very user friendly, with fantastic on-screen software, and a fantastic slicer.
What are you thoughts on this vs your voron for print quality and speed?
Voron will always be better if built and tuned right. My 2.4 300mm is as good as it gets. Only thing faster is a annex k3.
You can get the bubbles out by just peeling the sticker off and set it back down.
I pre-ordered this printer, but I'm seriously considering buying this or another Prusa MK3S+. I want to know the print quality and if it's similar or better than the Prusa.
I would just stick with the prusa, more reliable and you aren't a beta tester for them. Check the sub reddit for the X1, tons of people are having issues. One guy didn't even have a dozen prints on his before his X axis seized up. And looking at the pictures, something got jammed between the bronze bushing and one of his rails, scuffed and gouged his X axis rail. Happened because bambu doesn't put wiper seals on their bronze bushings. So debris can get between the rods and bushings. Your MK3S has wiper seals to prevent that.
@@LilApe thanks for this. As nice as the Bambu seems on paper and from their aggressive advertising, I've been skeptical about it at that price point. I didn't want to be an early adopter for such an ambitious machine. So I actually skipped the Bambu and bought my first Prusa a month ago after owning some cheap Anycubic printers for a couple years (lot of frustration with those but that's another story). Another thing is that so much of the Bambu is proprietary and built in such a way that sourcing/replacing/upgrading parts and fixing printer troubles seems like it will be pretty limited or difficult.
Is there a way to make the prusa faster? The big selling point of this device is its speed
Too many reviews of printers not highlighting reliability, which is the number one issue for any printer... They of course also know how to dial in or troubleshoot or get sent tested and working units... I only trust Prusa this far, Creality is a horrible lottery...
@@tylers2889 Worth noting that this guy is in every comments section about this printer, doing nothing but trying to make people not buy it. I don't know why he's so obsessed with it. I've been really happy with mine.
What is the overall size of this machine? Can't find the dimensions on heir website.
Hi, I have a question, can someone completely new to 3d printing learn and use this item or is this more for advance people with previous printing knowledge?
A complete noob can use it, but you won't learn as much since it does most calibration for you.
I have loved mine but yesterday there was a power cut… and turns out there is no power off resume!
Yes there is. I lost power during an overnight print. When power came on I just press resumed and it finished fine. Are you up to date on firmware?
what the difference with carbon version?
Backer 9XX, still no word. Also, air freight wasn't an option. 😩
Which brand of Carbon Fiber Nylon do you use?
Yeah was this Bambu CF Nylon or some other brand?
Someone invested A LOT of money into this product. I wonder who’s behind Bambu Labs. They came out of nowhere.
They're not from nowhere - they came from DJI, it's pretty well known
The founders came out of DJI. No idea if they self-funded, or raised investor money.
Is there a way to do a color change with out the ams
Also is there a way to it hide glue on the cool plate
How much it's totally cost for shipping to Turkey who knows answer me please
wish mine would get here but I backed it near the end. sigh.
Does anyone compare this to the Ultmaker? It seems the same feature on Ultmaker cost 3x more expansive.
That’s my question too. I’ve been hasn’t to buy another UM because they are merging with MakerBot. I think the new name is UltiCrap. So sad
From all the reviews I have seen and your comments today I hope this is my next machine. I have two original, heavily modified Ender3’s and my first buy a Snapmaker via kickstarter
It really seams that this company wants to be a trusted player in the 3D printing universe. Let’s hope they don’t go the way of Snapmaker where the buyers or the original model were kept on the hook by promises of expansion units only to be let down when the second model was issued, and the original expansion units failed to materialise.
On my printer I get gaps on the top infill when I have the perfect linear advance setting for walls and z-seam. In cura its easy to fix this since i can use a different Linear Advance setting for top surface.
Voron 2.4 or X1 Carbon?
How do they compare in speed, reliability, print quality, high temp materials etc.?
They both seem to be in the same price range but the X1 carbon comes with so much more...
Also interested in how this compares to the flsunv400.
Voron is open source, X1 is proprietary. All bambu has to to is pull the plug at any point and all their customers are SOL. Look at all the chinese proprietary printers that are no longer supported. I don't own either, but past exp has taught me to never go chinese proprietary.
@@LilApe I think its pretty clear that Bambu is going to be around for a long time. They have an amazing printer and adding the rfid technology to the filament will help with their consumable sales. I dont see the company going anywhere anytime soon, they clearly invested a huge amount of money making this printer and they are definitely going to be taking a big bite of the 3d printer market. I am still astonished watching mine print.
@@Xploit66 They probably will be around for a while, but what I mean is, they can stop support for the X1 at any time. Say if they come out with a new version or totally different printer. Flashforged, quidi ultimaker, anycubic are just to name a few examples of manufacturers that have had proprietary printers in the past that are now no longer supported. As they come out with new printers, they drop the old. no software updates, no replacement parts, etc. Open source keeps the updates and parts availability around. Proprietary is fine in come cases, but almost never a good idea when it comes from china, imo
@@LilApe oh I see your point. Yeah that’s possible but so far their customer service has been awesome. They came from DJI and DJI still supports their old products so hopefully they will too. But I get your point.
Honestly, my feeling is that the X1 and the Vorons epitomise the two different subsets of the 3d printing community. Which is to say: a few years ago, being "into 3d printing" meant "I want to fiddle around building, tweaking, tuning, and modifying the printer." The hobby was as much about building the printer as it was actually printing things. Now, however, there are a *lot* of people who don't want to futz about with the printer, they just want it to *work*. For these people, the 3d printer is a tool to help them turn their imagination into a physical object, and they are interested in working on the machine itself the exact same amount as a carpenter is interested in working on his table saw: zero.
If you are into *building* printers because that's your jam, build a Voron. The experience will probably be fun for you and you'll probably learn some things.
If you want a machine that produces 3d printed parts with a minimum of fuss and time, buy an X1. The effort required to make the printer go is... honestly, in my 3-day-old experience, I've spent more time trying to make my microwave do what I wanted it to than I have making the X1C doing what I wanted it to.
In terms of print quality, I don't have 1st hand experience but 3DPNero - who is part of the Voron team and also has an X1C - says they're about the same. Slicer profiles and tuning matter more than hardware, assuming you've hit a minimum standard. I suppose if print quality is your highest priority - well, then it comes down to how confident you are in your ability to build the Voron correctly.
Lil Ape has a good point about long-term security, but that's true of anything. If you have the skills to build your own *anything*, you probably won't save money but you'll gain "support security." And of course Voron has been out longer so it has a much more robust community with many of the little problems discovered and fixes proposed.
But nothing changes the reality that Vorons and X1s are aimed at very different people, and your choice should be based on whether or not you think building the printer yourself will be fun and entertaining!
it's such a bummer that almost every reviewer has such an "it broke in shipping" story :( Uncle Jessy send his printer back for the team to diagnose and it was completely unusable when it arrived at their factory...
I didn’t get anything out of this and am looking for info on this. Injured then it’s a bust but you never say any thing
Side note: 70% of PCs used worldwide are using Windows OS, so it is no wonder that Bambu starts with the most popular OS.
7:27 bro that looks like store bought
So are you saying Bambu gave you a Handy?
I just went on the Bambu Lab page. I was laughed off the page for asking some questions about price, is this actually coming out. After being laughed at on the official page hell will freeze right over before I buy their printer.
Price is on the website.
@@MG6Makes1776 Don't care will not buy it. I your printer has a good community then that is a large plus. I don't see that with Bambu.
What do you even mean?
Is it just me or does the link to your blog just redirect to spam ads
Is it still in the description? I thought I removed it some time ago. The site was compromised I had planned on starting over with it.
@@ModBotArmy yeah, just above your socials
Can it print PEEK?
No, the Hotend only heats up to 300° while peek has a melt point of 335° and needs about 400° to print.
But printing peek without a actively heated chamber is near impossible anyways, so even a Hotend upgrade won’t enable the X1 to do peek.
5:25 instead of increasing the line width, try decreasing it to nozzle size - 0.1mm