Top 6 Best and Worst Cross-Generation Evolutions in Pokémon!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
  • Pokémon evolutions don't always happen in season, since occasionally after years of waiting a generation will gift a Pokémon with a new, more powerful form! Sometimes this does wonders for their popularity, and sometimes this is a confusing mess that leaves the Pokémon worse off then before, so let's see which later additions to Pokémon families rank among the best and the worst of all time! (Or at least for now, since there are so many we'll likely have to revisit this topic!)

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  • @joaquinfernandezaracil1703
    @joaquinfernandezaracil1703 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    Dudunsparce is actually the middle evolution.
    The final evolution is called Dududusparce and will be introduced in gen 16

    • @Juddear
      @Juddear ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Darude Sandsparce

    • @doggo6972
      @doggo6972 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      DunDunDunDunsparce

    • @parkerhynson3581
      @parkerhynson3581 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dont jynx us, dude.

    • @kerjectroter3761
      @kerjectroter3761 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Unless they make a pre evolution of dunsparce, it's name lilsparce.

    • @owengonzalez6819
      @owengonzalez6819 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kerjectroter3761that sounds really cute

  • @christopherballero866
    @christopherballero866 ปีที่แล้ว +439

    I kind of feel bad that Jynx never got an evolution yet Electabuzz & Magmar did

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Smoochum was just that bad!

    • @GhostieToasterStrudel
      @GhostieToasterStrudel ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Doesnt surprise me do to it never being popular and on top of that having the whole controversy. Would of been nice to see them give it one with an actually nice design or stats so at least some people would use it. One of my least fav Pokémon but I’d be pleasantly surprised if they did something for it to change my mind.

    • @danielstonebraker656
      @danielstonebraker656 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Even Mr. Mime got one!

    • @jasond.b-w
      @jasond.b-w ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@GhostieToasterStrudel I also think this is it. Having a racist controversy is serious enough and the fact that one of the whole mon’s inspirations is risky territory, it would have been hard to draw even _more_ inspiration from it (or go hard in the Yuki-onna or Ganguro direction instead and erase everything else) without upsetting anyone. I think they just didn’t want to remind people of it on the whole.

    • @ksoundkaiju9256
      @ksoundkaiju9256 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      GF probably just wanted to avoid Jynx

  • @Frokken
    @Frokken ปีที่แล้ว +160

    For me, my favorite cross gen evolution is Mammoswine. I always thought Piloswine seemed incomplete. Seeing it become Mammoswine filled me with such joy. And it helps that it is soooooo good too

  • @JoshWink65
    @JoshWink65 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I'm not gonna try to convert you into loving dudunsparce, but I will say, the fact that it sort of transcends the boundaries of the games and exists purely to get a reaction out of the players feels so genius and is part of why I'm fully on board with it

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah, to me that just makes it the "Last Jedi" of Pokemon, which is not a good thing; making things to intentionally get a rise out of fans is a bad call, no matter the field you're in...

    • @owengonzalez6819
      @owengonzalez6819 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@emperorcubone When you put it that way, that does seem harsh. I’d give the rest of my opinions on Dunsparce’s controversy, but I already wrote a very long comment about some cross-gen Pokémon I wanted to talk about and I am not restating my Dunsparce argument.

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@emperorcubone luckily this was just 1 of a 100 or so mons instead of the meat in a trilogy looking to make a billion.

    • @ummelofilo9642
      @ummelofilo9642 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@PsyBlob it's own, disappointing thing

    • @Lissy_YT481
      @Lissy_YT481 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@emperorcubone dude, the thing is that Dunsparce was designed to be a dissapointment since it was introduces, that's precisely it's so rare yet so weak.

  • @carljameson3082
    @carljameson3082 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I really don't know why people expected so much from Dunsparce, of all Pokémon. Making a comically disappointing evolution to an already comically disappointing Pokémon seems like a perfect fit

  • @johntaylor1189
    @johntaylor1189 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Annihilape really makes me want a third stage for Hypno. I always saw Primeape and Hypno as counterparts, both being the B-version of better mons, Machamp and Alakazam.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Huh, I've literally never thought of any connection between those Pokemon, but it's interesting to see what other people find!

    • @createdforthemoment6740
      @createdforthemoment6740 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Do we call an evolution for Hypno Jared?

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I can see hypno evolving into the sleep paralysis demon that sit in your chest eating your dream

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ghost type aswell

    • @johntaylor1189
      @johntaylor1189 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Watch-0w1 Or Dark. Hypno always seemed creepy enough to me.

  • @daponagegoogenburg807
    @daponagegoogenburg807 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Honestly, I did feel that Dunsparce needed something. But the fact that GF made it a big joke with Dudunsparce, just made me love it and I think is great that the evolution is literally just, an extra segment or two. 11/10, can’t wait for Dududunsparce.

  • @Frokken
    @Frokken ปีที่แล้ว +161

    One thing worth mentioning on Electivire is the head horns. Elekid is a plug. Electabuzz is an antenna. Electivire is tesla coils.

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wait why does Japan use American style plugs
      They are some of the worst designs out there especially we we take the earlier ones without the third pin

    • @The64BitKid
      @The64BitKid ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yup, they use similiar plugs as in the us. But its not uncommen to design things around a large target group or things that are known or recognizable around the world such as a us plug. A small euro plug is two prongs aswell for example

    • @HeyHeyChey
      @HeyHeyChey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess the Magmar line fuses its blobs as they evolve... Its something

    • @doomsdayrabbit4398
      @doomsdayrabbit4398 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jmurray1110Probably because as Japan was modernizing in the 20's they were importing a lot of their electrical hardware from the US.

  • @janopsilver
    @janopsilver ปีที่แล้ว +101

    The only one I am missig is Crobat. He is a huge upgrade from Golbat.
    But the I hate the most is Rhyperior. Well... Not Rhyperior itself. I used one for a long time, and I grew close to it, but it's just so far from the original stages. Rhydon is one of my absolute favourites, it really deserved an evoultion that is really an ubgrade in design too, not only in power. Maybe a Steel type evolution one day...

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Agreed on both counts! Crobat made a borderline hated Pokemon family beloved, while Rhyperior takes an amazing iconic design and throws in out the window!

    • @ksoundkaiju9256
      @ksoundkaiju9256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@emperorcubone I just Rhyperior as a Rhydon plated in armor as it evolves using a protector

    • @GhostieToasterStrudel
      @GhostieToasterStrudel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree on crobat but I don’t on rhyperior only part I feel separates it from the line is that they worked the evolution item into the design so it has the padding being a completely different color, which I could saw goes towards your point but tbh I personally like that it shows how the item helped it evolve by well somehow fusing with the Pokémon. I’m 50/50 on it personally I like that design aspect but never cared much for the line personally (don’t hate them just never used them besides when completing dex)

    • @qcaggro
      @qcaggro ปีที่แล้ว

      I somehow am one of the three people with the opposite opinion, as I think Crobat is criminally ugly and that Rhyperior is pretty cool, not really caring about Rhydon one way or another.

    • @skanaraki2161
      @skanaraki2161 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For the life of me I still don't understand what people don't like about Rhyperior. The hate towards it feels like a psyop at this point.

  • @potter.felipematos
    @potter.felipematos ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I always loved Scyther and took a while to like Scizor. But Kleavor amazed me from the first look, it's so epic!
    About the Mr.Mime line, I surprisingly liked the Galarian form and evolution. The connection of mimes, clowns and tap dancers or movie actors is the idea of entertainers and it feels a good progression imo

    • @mikemiller8430
      @mikemiller8430 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Literally if I was a bug e4 or champ I'd have Scyther Scizor and Kleavor in a team with Centicsorch Golisipod and Heracross.

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mikemiller8430 I agree but replace Centiskorch and Golisopod with Galvantula and Volcarona for my team.

    • @mikemiller8430
      @mikemiller8430 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy galvantula would replace Kleavor and forretress would replace scizor

    • @ShadeStormXD
      @ShadeStormXD ปีที่แล้ว

      i just got my kleavor in legends arceus and i honestly am not fond of the design, looks to skinny and buglike and small, like a light breeze could crush its abdomen. the cleaver axe hands are cool but the rest of it i think couldve been a lot better

    • @mikemiller8430
      @mikemiller8430 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShadeStormXD and that's why it's a rock type

  • @YoursTrulyHero
    @YoursTrulyHero ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love my dundunsparce. I think people overhyped themselves into thinking that it'd be some kind of crazy strong awesome looking serpentine pokemon a la gyarados and milotic but it didn't end up like that. I've been a fan of dunsparce since gen 2 and now I can use the bigger form to perfom much better in battles.

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah it’s exactly what a Dunsparce evolution should be. They wanted Gyrados, we have Gyrados. Plus plenty of other serpentine dragons.

  • @HesGotaGun505
    @HesGotaGun505 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I like Smoochum! Ever since getting the Odd Egg as a kid and hatching a Smoochum with Dizzy Punch it’s always held a spot in my heart. I’m still holding out for that jynx evo. Maybe in a couple more decades.

  • @lukemurray6293
    @lukemurray6293 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Honchkrow single handedly got me back into pokemon games in gen 4.

  • @Ryodraco
    @Ryodraco ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Say what you will, while it's not what anyone may have expected I love my giant silly segmented cryptid serpent Dudunsparce. 🙂 That it is actually useful in battle helps too.

    • @Sheogoratful
      @Sheogoratful ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Useful for what?

    • @Ryodraco
      @Ryodraco ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Sheogoratful Stab Boomburst if you want to go the special attack route, stronger Serene Grace shenanigans with Glare, Headbutt, Bite and Roost if you go the physical route. Hyper Drill is just a strong move in general too.

  • @Carpinito927
    @Carpinito927 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It's funny that while almost totally useless in all other aspects of the franchise, Smoochum has found a niche as being a really good/borderline OP Pokémon to use for the level 1 dungeons in the Mystery Dungeon Series

    • @redculturedash8074
      @redculturedash8074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you mean “Level 1”? I’ve gone into Zero Isle dungeons as Smoochum and Jynx.

  • @The_PokeSaurus
    @The_PokeSaurus ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I wish we had more Scizor styled evolutions where the stat total is the same but the stats get moved around, making it feel less like an evolution and more like a form choice. I could see one for Shuckle.

    • @Rainfire-forgets-to-animate
      @Rainfire-forgets-to-animate 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Only if it was a pre-evolution,cause NO ONE wants eviolite shuckle

    • @The_PokeSaurus
      @The_PokeSaurus 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Rainfire-forgets-to-animate Shuckle isn't that good a tank with almost no HP. Eviolite wouldn't make it that much worse.

  • @jayrome1884
    @jayrome1884 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I still think that Bisharp into Kingambit is an extremely cool Evolution, I love that your Bisharp has to prove itself in order to evolve.

  • @cedriceichenauer4490
    @cedriceichenauer4490 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Honestly the only thing I expected out of an Dunsparce evolution was that the stats would be fine and that it looked more like a snake and not like a sandbag, nothing more, so I'm happy with the evolution. I mean you could say that it can be made better but you can say that to literally everything, I mean Garados never got the Dragon type. I think people just had too high expectations, were I just had the few mentioned. So all in all I like Dundunsparce no matter what you say.

  • @huntermengel2683
    @huntermengel2683 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I really liked the new Gen 4 evolutions, but I never understood why they were so hard to get, and basically not obtainable for a playthrough. Also, Jinx really needs some evo love, doesnt even need to be made OP, it could just get a design overhaul like Obstagoon and just be a new thing. Smoochum grosses me out, Jynx needs something else

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, Platinum made it a bit better, but I miss using things like Mamoswine or Dusknoir in regular Sinnoh....

  • @YungBaymax
    @YungBaymax ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Agreed with everything except Dudunsparce, i will not accept this slander!!! It is the perfect troll pokemon and I love it for that

  • @TrvisXXIII
    @TrvisXXIII ปีที่แล้ว +21

    To this day, I still forget which one is the evolution between chingling and chimecho because they both look like pre-evo’s to me
    Edit: also, I literally learned in this video that chimecho was a gen 3 Pokémon. I’ve never seen it in any hoenn game and they were so common in sinnoh that I assumed that’s when it was introduced, which is another reason why I didn’t know which one is the first form

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah you'd think the Psychic gym in Mossdeep would show it off, but I guess it didn't go with the theme...

    • @Frokken
      @Frokken ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah it's found in like one area and is a rare encounter. It's such a weird choice.

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 ปีที่แล้ว

      They look like pacman frog made of steel. There a good idea for it evolution
      Plus frog are know for it soynd

  • @nightfrostbreeze
    @nightfrostbreeze ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TBH I usually forget about Chingling too but whenever I'm reminded of it I just think about how cute it is! It's round!

  • @happymask8042
    @happymask8042 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Magmortar is a top 5 Pokemon for me. He looks like a Pokemon the bad guys would use and I love it.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You are right that it looks villainous, for how badly they corrupted Magmar, basically giving it it's own Dubious Disc...

    • @happymask8042
      @happymask8042 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@emperorcubone Plus arm canons are just objectively cool.

    • @liannabunny7775
      @liannabunny7775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@emperorcuboneI won't lie and admit that Magmortar isn't very pretty, but I only used one in BDSP because I wanted a Fire Type-

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@happymask8042 but no hand :( how it survive. I say they should have been duck komondor dragon that spit fire

    • @skanaraki2161
      @skanaraki2161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Watch-0w1 It has hands, but it retracts them into its arms to use as a cannon. You can literally see its fingers in almost all of its art. It's the exact same thing that Golurk does with its feet cannons.

  • @Lankpants
    @Lankpants ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I kind of love Dudunsparce though. It's such a derpy Pokemon, which is great because Dunsparce is already a giant derp. Definitely not going to be for everyone but I really love the weirdoes in Pokemon and Dudunsparce just works for me.

  • @kaitogirldraws
    @kaitogirldraws ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You didn't love or understand Dunsparce to begin with, you just cared abut what fans speculated of it. Dudunsparce is perfect.

  • @ThisNameIsVeryClever
    @ThisNameIsVeryClever ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lickilicky would make a good #1 for a top 10 most uncomfortable names list.

    • @Dawg347
      @Dawg347 ปีที่แล้ว

      Muk

  • @CaptainObliviousV
    @CaptainObliviousV ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But Dunsparce wasn’t “made” into a joke, that was the intention from the start. It’s inspiration, the Tsuchinoko, is literally a joke cryptid, being a fat useless snake who’s only supernatural quality is that it can double jump and is only cared about because it’s rarely seen due to its cowardice. I won’t lie, I also used to be one to wish Dunsparce evolved into fierce dragon, but over time and a good while before SV came out the the prospect began to bore me. If Dunsparce did evolve the way the fans expected, would I be satisfied or would I just be left sitting there thinking “Ok, we got exactly what we wanted, now what?”. It started to feel like having the dream of an evolution was better than having that wish granted. When Dudunsparce was revealed, it took a minute to click, but after that I loved it, how it kept Dunsparce’s quirkyness and how it doubled down on the joke that Dunsparce always was and I respect whoever made that decision.

  • @matthewcleary4685
    @matthewcleary4685 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dudunsparce is hilarious lol

  • @Whale-Shark-Katie
    @Whale-Shark-Katie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Arguably they keep adding unnerving creep pokemon”, I get how the other parts of the Mr Mime line are creepy, but how is Mr Rhyme creepy? Honestly imo it’s closer to cute than creepy

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you seen the stomach? Because it's seen you... Those eyes move and everything so you know they work, which is so unnerving!

  • @Skrattmas
    @Skrattmas ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun fact: Mr. Rime is my favorite Ice-Type and are in my top 10 Pokémon-list of all time! I had a hard time with Mr. Mime in the past and sure Galarian Mr. Mime don't really look good either but Mr. Rime has become a great gentleman with a hat and stash so I can't complain!

    • @Dawg347
      @Dawg347 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do not pass go.

  • @redkingdom15
    @redkingdom15 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These 6 Best & Worst videos are your bread & butter in terms of content, so thank you for continuing to make them! Been watching for a long time Emperor!

  • @kittensolder8818
    @kittensolder8818 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hot take: I legitimately like Dudunsparce more than ANY fanmade Dunsparce evolution. Why? Because literally all of those fan evos are just slight design variations of ONE concept: "BIG COOL EPIC AWESOME SWAG DRAGON." Which without fail completely abandons any semblance of Dunsparce's original inspirations or themes such as the tsuchinoko, sphinx moth, digger bee etc. Everyone followed the exact same formula to the point where giving Dunsparce the least unique evolution in Pokémon history *was what made said evolution unique* because it WASN'T the same giant Dragon/Flying/Fairy/Ground-type Awesomesparce a million fanartists had already voiced their support of.

    • @redmage5251
      @redmage5251 ปีที่แล้ว

      unique isn't the same as good

  • @nazeersadek6705
    @nazeersadek6705 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I do agree that if Dudunsparce was normal/ ground then I honestly wouldn’t have any problem with it

  • @Smuggy97
    @Smuggy97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, I love Mr. Rime. He looks so dapper and dashing, like he's gonna invite me out for some tea. He tore apart many a trainer for me when I needed it

  • @liannabunny7775
    @liannabunny7775 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So um… recently I started to use a Shiny Annihilape for Tera Raids and I see why I always feared it… it's very scarily strong… using one at my disposal makes me feel less afraid

  • @DrTimes99
    @DrTimes99 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lickitung should have evolved into a normal/poison type called Ickitung.

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Into a pacman frog/ chameleon

  • @MetallicPetals
    @MetallicPetals ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I myself adore Dudunsparce, it's so stupid that it just works and I used one on my team for the first time and I am happy I did!

  • @redmage5251
    @redmage5251 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    dudunsparce was funny for about a week and that's the nicest thing I can say about it

  • @shauryarawat3907
    @shauryarawat3907 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wanna see if there is a chance to save these lines with new forms

  • @cmtosh2409
    @cmtosh2409 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I unironically love Dudunsparce just because it’s funny and makes people upset.

  • @bravewater5737
    @bravewater5737 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now that I think about it, there is no Normal type Paradox Pokemon.
    How about a past form for Snorlax? It can be called Slumbering Wrath or something like that. It would be a Normal/Fighting type.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a pretty amazing name for it!

    • @bravewater5737
      @bravewater5737 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emperorcubone thanks!

  • @nintendolife25
    @nintendolife25 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great job, Emperor Cubone. I think we can agree that as much as I love this region, Johto is a really odd case when it comes to the type of Pokemon it introduces. On one hand, we get brilliance like Scizor, Crobat, and Kingdra. On the other hand, we get Bellossom, that’s not only a total downgrade and a waste of a stone but didn’t get a stat buff Vileplume would get in Gen 6.

    • @Halberds8122
      @Halberds8122 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like bellossom for its looks and not much else. Perhaps they should have made it a fast sweeper with lots of coverage.

    • @AuraStrikeAce
      @AuraStrikeAce ปีที่แล้ว

      I like Bellossom, it's cute

  • @rayyaninspookymonth1630
    @rayyaninspookymonth1630 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That dudunsparce part feels like a blow to the stomach but I do agree that it should have gained the dragon ground type somewhere, I say it's an evolution to say the most.

    • @heriknogueiracezar8945
      @heriknogueiracezar8945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, even if he feels like it deserves a place in the 6 worst (I personally don't but it might be bias), he ain't worse that Chingling

  • @Summonsloth
    @Summonsloth ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dudumbsparce could've at least been part ground...

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's what I'm saying; a new type is by far the easiest way to justify a new evolution, even if the design is bad it at least has a real reason to set apart from the other one...

    • @Dan55888
      @Dan55888 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah they could have literally done anything else and be more creative than what they did..

  • @donnaroe
    @donnaroe ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great list! I’ll still never understand why they greenlit Lickilicky in the first place - like, who is it for? Why did they think people wanted it 😭

    • @donnaroe
      @donnaroe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BalloonSeasonArchive OOO that's really interesting! thanks for sharing! I actually kinda enjoy the scrapped gen 2 one

    • @Oturan20
      @Oturan20 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lickilicky would've worked better as a Pre-evolution, nearly everything about it's design (except for it's size) says it should be a baby Pokémon.

  • @notayoutubechannel.
    @notayoutubechannel. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like gamefreak made dudunsparce just to have the fandom shut up about wanting dunsparce evolution

  • @mattdabeast315
    @mattdabeast315 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Primeape has a base stat of 455 and you called it respectable like, it needed all the help it can get. Annihilape was the right call and it look and battle awesome 😊

    • @fishfox
      @fishfox ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Primape has same base stats as hitmons which people consider as good enough plus nobody ever factors their sp.att for them (effective average base stats 84 w/o counting sp.att)

    • @christiancinnabars1402
      @christiancinnabars1402 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fishfox IMO, the Hitmons are also falling prey to power creep quite badly. Pure Fighting types with base 455 stats (2/3rd of which are defensive mons with base 50 HP) and niche abilities just doesn't cut it anymore. The issue is that making a variant/evolution for one of them means making one for all of them.

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Give them broken items such as a thick club clone, that doubles their attack stat or defenses. Problem solved and they keep their look

  • @Rot8erConeX
    @Rot8erConeX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Ending up as a joke is very different from intending to be one". Cool, good thing Dunsparce was the latter. Tsukinoko, "fat snake", was always a joke yokai.

  • @bananaspice1967
    @bananaspice1967 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How dare you say Dudunsparce is the worst. It's literally perfect. It's the embodiment of Dunsparce. It's not supposed to be majestic, powerful, beautiful. It's supposed to be stupid and a joke.

  • @LAZERAK47V2
    @LAZERAK47V2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorite thing about Annihilape is that, if you evolve your Primape rather than catching an Annihilape in the wild, YOU are responsible for its inability to find peace in death. YOU turned it into a wrathful spirit by forcing it to use Rage Fist until it died.
    Pokemon may stand for Pocket Monsters, but in this case, YOU are the monster.

  • @vortexius8458
    @vortexius8458 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Dunsparce has been my second favorite Pokemon for years, and honestly I prefer the Dudunsparce we got to the fanart you showed. Personal preference, I guess. There are certainly other fan evolutions of it out there that I do prefer, but I'm happy that they just doubled down on what I already liked about Dunsparce instead of going in a wildly different direction. TL;DR: yes, it could be better, but my simple tastes are still satisfied with it both gameplay-wise and design-wise.

  • @lerdog
    @lerdog 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dudunsparce is amazing, probably my #1 cross gen evo. It's frustrating in the most amazing way, I'll die in this hill.

  • @macappleoverwatchclipsmore8525
    @macappleoverwatchclipsmore8525 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People who don't think Dudunsparce is great don't understand why Dunsparce was great in the first place.
    Also the lack of presence of Steelix kills this list. 💀

  • @GhostbusterPalu
    @GhostbusterPalu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:29 I can *GUARANTEE* you, EmpCube, that *NOBODY* cares about what you think about Dudunsparce. And no, people never say that "It was meant to be a joke". We simply love the mon and that's it.

  • @marioipod
    @marioipod ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hit the like button before I even got past the intro. Keep up the cool videos Emperor Cubone!

  • @arininquotes8396
    @arininquotes8396 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do agree that Electivire is a vast improvement on Electabuzz, although ever since playing PLA, I really wish it had been dual electric/ice. The interpretation of it as a sasquatch-like creature also fits that.

  • @ThatAlchemistGuy
    @ThatAlchemistGuy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually love dudunsparce. GF knew what they were doing, and even the name is a joke, sounding like a sting (the da dum tss sound on drums and a cymbal). It was a huge troll, and mad respect to GF for doing that. I'm definitely in the minority, but I think its genius

    • @redmage5251
      @redmage5251 ปีที่แล้ว

      making dudunsparce bad on purpose still makes it bad

    • @ThatAlchemistGuy
      @ThatAlchemistGuy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redmage5251 lol i wasnt saying anything about it being good or bad/viable or not. Just said that the name is perfect

  • @JordanDeeb28
    @JordanDeeb28 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    While a lot of the other Beta baby forms (like elekid specifically) weren’t that great, Beta Magby is superior to the Magby we got

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's what I'm saying! It could've been far better...

    • @Vigriff
      @Vigriff ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *Quickly looks up Beta Magby* WTF were they thinking?!

  • @RedDragonForce2
    @RedDragonForce2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The reason why Dundunsparce failed is because people’s expectations were unrealistic after all the Fanart. There’s only so many designs you can do before it feels samey to someone else’s design. And GameFreak and Pokémon could only do so much after years and years of Fanart taking over designs.
    Could they still have done better? Maybe, but after all this time and all this hype, they wouldn’t be able to please the fans anyways.
    I would have liked to have its BST be at least 30+ points higher overall, but what are you going to do?😊

    • @redmage5251
      @redmage5251 ปีที่แล้ว

      the reason dudunsparce failed is because it was designed to fail

  • @Aaroncarter95
    @Aaroncarter95 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still think Porygon2 should be a branching evolution. One where it upgraded correctly and one where it glitched out.

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We need porygon 3

  • @LowReedExpert1
    @LowReedExpert1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like they could have nailed Dudunsparce as a joke pokemon by just making it a three stage evolution, with each evolution adding a body segment.
    Evolving and getting 2 segments would be a letdown, but then you hear it evolves again. So you train it up, and it evolves, and it's the same bad joke again.
    The ironic letdown would have been incredible

  • @tiagocardosom
    @tiagocardosom ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a Porygon-Z in Platinum that was amazing on the battle frontier

  • @revenantuchiha9104
    @revenantuchiha9104 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rowletts final evolution is a homage to the owls who are NOW extinct native to the land that it’s representing outside of the game. Your welcome.

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey I love how memeworthy Dudunsparse is. It's evolution is as rare as a shiny for a joke.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The second S in Dudunsparce is supposed to be a C! And we DO NOT use the word its as a pronoun if there's an apostrophe in it!

  • @mv0lpe427
    @mv0lpe427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I disagree on your magmorter take. I think him having flame thrower cannons for hands is dope. Great video tho keep up the good work!

  • @Savannah_Simpson
    @Savannah_Simpson หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wasn’t a huge fan of Mr Rime, but the I saw a TH-cam video of him dancing around twirling his cane and I started to kind of see his charm.

  • @CalypsoTheWanderingStar
    @CalypsoTheWanderingStar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dunsparce is based on a tsuchinoko, a fat little snake in Japanese mythology. It was always meant to be a joke since tsuchinoko aren't taken seriously by anyone.

  • @Qvartz_Lite
    @Qvartz_Lite ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will not tolerate no Dudunsparce slander

  • @ExistingKirb
    @ExistingKirb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video! I liked the part when you completely missed the point of the Dunsparce line and proceeded to get mad about it.

  • @zinzolin14
    @zinzolin14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry Emperor, but Dudunsparce has my full support for being the way it is.

  • @Ryanwizardstaff
    @Ryanwizardstaff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nah Magmortar looks sick with those arm cannons agree to disagree. Also I just love Lickylicky it’s so dumb and fun.

  • @ccburdett
    @ccburdett ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will say that for my previous playthrough of Pokémon X, I used Dunsparce just because of the hate it got. And it became one of my best fighters in the game - it dominated.

  • @HesGotaGun505
    @HesGotaGun505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chingling seemed like it was included in DP because the devs were worried that Chimecho was just too strong for the early game.

  • @inuboy2005
    @inuboy2005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Dudunsparce is really dumb, and I love it.

  • @Leonardovideogoes
    @Leonardovideogoes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dunsparce never been overlooked, poid was always a joke

  • @Lupinemancer87
    @Lupinemancer87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I might be in the minority here, but I actually like Smoocum, it is just so adorable. Jynx, however, I wish would disappear and never return. Maybe if they gave it an evolution it might become more likable, but right now, I wish I never have to see it anymore.

  • @itsRuszard
    @itsRuszard ปีที่แล้ว

    as a magmortar fan, i am hurt. you didn't have to roast him like that, he already is roasted.

  • @jeffreygao3956
    @jeffreygao3956 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually like Magmortar. Fight me!

  • @kevandre
    @kevandre ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Highkey I've always loved Magmortar. Never really understood why everyone hates it

  • @potatoqueen5248
    @potatoqueen5248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dudunspacre is a meme Pokémon and I love it. People hyped up over something they made up and got mad when it didn’t happen.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The C in Dudunsparce should be after the R!

  • @polypolar715
    @polypolar715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I. LOVE. DUDUNSPARCE. I will not tolerate any Dudunsparce slander

  • @dragonflyo5078
    @dragonflyo5078 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My top 3 favorites are Yanmega, Mismagius, and Mamoswine

    • @AuraStrikeAce
      @AuraStrikeAce ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll add an extra 4th and say my faves are Scizor, Roserade, Froslass and Togekiss

  • @Leto85
    @Leto85 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I love most about these cross-generation Pokémon is their ability to get ribbons others from their latest gen don't have. It's great for origin mark hunters as well.

  • @Seraserastria
    @Seraserastria ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that Dudunsparce is number one worst is perfect. Genuinely couldn't have asked for anything better as a Dunsparce evolution. After decades of seeing fanart of possible evolutions for the little guy, I wouldn't have been impressed if GameFreak just tried to do that. Honestly, the only comment I'd have is "too little too late". But Dudunsparce got a laugh out of me, I adore it.

  • @angelwhispers2060
    @angelwhispers2060 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually the who part of the creation of the dubious disc was expressly explained as one of the Team Rocket scientists. But what the corruption of the dubious disc was supposed to achieve was never really explained

  • @magicdreemurr3771
    @magicdreemurr3771 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for putting Dudunsparce where it rightfully belongs. The most boring and disappointing evolution.

  • @augstradus
    @augstradus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dud-unsparce
    i think they achieved everything they wanted and everything Dunsparce stands for
    you don't have to like it for it to be a fitting

  • @strombreakr
    @strombreakr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I will not stand for the Magby and Mr. Rime slander. Magby looks exactly like a baby Magmar. Of course Mr. Rime is Charlie Chaplin! He was a British pop culture phenomenon! *He made the toothbrush style of mustache fashionable!*

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว

      To be clear, I don't necessarily have a problem with a Chaplin Pokemon, just it being an evolution to a dancing Mr. Mime for no reason, (and I cannot stress enough the stomach face, which I'm 86% sure the real man did not have...)

  • @ravus9935
    @ravus9935 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chingling is one of my favorite Pokémon ever and I adore its design. Maybe it shouldn't have been related to Chimecho, but Chingling is such an adorable baby Pokémon with so much charm and such a simple, but expressive design.

  • @rockowlgamer631
    @rockowlgamer631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    baby forms are pointless unless you want to get a pseudo legendary early like Gible for Garchomp. Regional evolution forms don't solve the issue for the original like Farfetch'd.
    Cross Gen evolutions for the win

  • @omarmendez0402
    @omarmendez0402 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honorable Mention Worst:
    Bisharp → Kingambit
    Honorable Mention Best:
    Girafarig → Farigiraf

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't disagree with either of those statements!

    • @timurtheking
      @timurtheking ปีที่แล้ว

      Man bisharp didnt need an evo, if anything it's evolution level should've been lowered cuz it's abit high for the BST of bisharp

    • @devildolphin2102
      @devildolphin2102 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Man what are y’all smoking Kingambit is the GOAT

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk about girafarig. I was hoping it go back to it beta version of his black rear become dark copy. Like catdog

  • @hisshoes1107
    @hisshoes1107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s crazy how your “worst list” goes back and forth from being 100% correct to 100% wrong, Magmar, Mime, and Dunsparce don’t deserve to be there at all, the Magmar line is just as good as the Elektabuzz line, Rime is a cool (pun intended) tap dancer juggler thing, and Dunsparce is literally perfection incarnate. Putting those three anywhere near the Chingling line or (specifically) Smoochum is a disservice to all cross-gen evolutions

  • @God_Delibird
    @God_Delibird ปีที่แล้ว

    People who wanted dunsparce to evolve into some OP dragon didn't understand dunsparce.

  • @AuraStrikeAce
    @AuraStrikeAce ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I definitely agree with Scizor being the best and Dudunsparce being the worst

  • @StevenDaniels81
    @StevenDaniels81 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually quite like Mr. Rime compared to the other three members of his line but to each their own I guess.
    And also with Dunsparce. Yeah it's kinda of letdown but it's the most Dunsparce thing to do by evolving like that.

    • @mlpfanboy1701
      @mlpfanboy1701 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mr rime shouldnt even be on this list. Its not a cross gen evolution, its verry much an in gen evolution.

  • @tbdabbholm
    @tbdabbholm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My personal favorite is Gallade, I loved the Gardevoir line in Gen III and Gallade is just such a cool design

  • @nathanstruble2177
    @nathanstruble2177 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gonna be honest, I actually love Dudunsparce, I hope every Generation gives us one more body segment and another Du to the name. I know they never do more than 3 stages, but DududududunSparce should absolutely be an exception. Gimme my 8 stahe evolution line!!

  • @TheLonelySoulja
    @TheLonelySoulja ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Electivire is in my top 10 all time Pokémon maybe in the top 5. He doesn’t need Fighting type to make him weaker to flying or Psy.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Flying would only be neutral, but I agree, it doesn't NEED Fighting, but it would have been great PR for it to have been a unique typing for at least a decade.

  • @raeganj6744
    @raeganj6744 ปีที่แล้ว

    If they wanted to give Dunsparce a silly evolution they could’ve based it on the hoop snake cryptid. Since Dunsparce is already based on a snake cryptid.

  • @heatherreagan8078
    @heatherreagan8078 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If they had just given Dundunsparce 3 more segments, it might have been a better hit.