In my younger years, late fall and relying on blazes on trees for hiking in the Southern US App Mtns and the trail was completely covered in fallen leaves. No compass or map and we found ourselves lost. What we thought was the trail was not. If you have ever been in that position, it changes you. The importance of what these valuable gentlemen are trying to make you aware of could possibly save your life. Thank you Stoker for bringing awareness and practicality to this important skill.
Well anyway, I knew people in my younger years also that already knew everything without life lessons. Turns out they were just fooling themselves and looking like that to others and low and behold it works the same for people who are older as well. Thanks for the visual.
@Boosh_Craftso your saying you knew what a bandaid was before anyone told you? I call BS on your experience because that much time you claim in the wilderness doesn’t bring you to your attitude about others. You have wasted your money on your expensive travels.
Basics and advanced basics. I sometimes find being able to see some of the advanced basics opens the door to better understanding the basics. Great discussion. Looking forward to more like this!
To much reliance on technology has always been an issue, in the 70s it was prepare for the big earthquake. A local news agency said bring your kits to the station and we can check what you have, people showed up with electric can openers.
Been lost once in the mountains while elk hunting in NE Oregon. I knew the area well but a thick fog rolled in while I was tracking elk and you could see maybe a 100 ft. That fog disorientated me to the point that I had no clue to where I was. Decide to camp out until it lifted. Another hunter came upon me and he was lost and as it turned out heading in the wrong direction. I suggested he stick with me until it cleared but he continued on. I made it out and a search party was needed to rescue him. I did not have a compass or map with me which is a mistake I have not repeated.
Great information and awesome to see you two together. Master the basics and get out and practice. Best advice there is. Learn from Stokers or Pathfinders videos or books like FM 3-25-26. I’ve found 2 books on land Nav that had false information in them when it came to declination. Semper Fi Stoker!
This philosophy aligns to how I view land navigation from my time spent in the outdoors and hunting as comparison to the land nav training in the military. They both have their place but military land nav really far less so.
Like most skills one must use map and compass skills often enough to stay skilled. I could probably find my way now, but not with the precision I once had, use it or lose it.
So at 8 years of age you read Kochanski? And was it “The Grand Syllabus” or “Basic wilderness survival in the Deep Snow”? Every one of your replies has been you selling yourself. haha! Your are Trolling comment sections to make yourself feel better about you. If you truly spent time in nature you wouldn’t need to. So sad.
Love and appreciate both of you!
In my younger years, late fall and relying on blazes on trees for hiking in the Southern US App Mtns and the trail was completely covered in fallen leaves. No compass or map and we found ourselves lost. What we thought was the trail was not. If you have ever been in that position, it changes you. The importance of what these valuable gentlemen are trying to make you aware of could possibly save your life. Thank you Stoker for bringing awareness and practicality to this important skill.
Been lost - not fun. Luckily I knew enough to be prepared for a long night with a backpack of essentials. Still chasing the mastery of land nav.
Well anyway, I knew people in my younger years also that already knew everything without life lessons. Turns out they were just fooling themselves and looking like that to others and low and behold it works the same for people who are older as well. Thanks for the visual.
@Boosh_Craftso your saying you knew what a bandaid was before anyone told you? I call BS on your experience because that much time you claim in the wilderness doesn’t bring you to your attitude about others. You have wasted your money on your expensive travels.
Great catching up with you brother! 👍
Same same!!
Great conversation guys. The basics are so important and so overlooked many times.
Best Judo guys ever are the ones who's basics are so perfect they don't even have to think about it. I find that is true in just about everything!!
yeah good video rule number one if you are lost, stay calm, if somebody says I never get lost he is lying or he never was outside
Thanks for having Tom on! I enjoy his UK channel as well as yours!
Two of my favorite content creators and people!!
Good interview with JJ too Bill!
Great video. I see so many folks go into the Huachucas planning on an hour walk and don’t even bring water. The mountains don’t forgive
Excellent discussion here gents!!! Cheers 🍻
Awesome
It's great to see you guys together !!!
Basics and advanced basics. I sometimes find being able to see some of the advanced basics opens the door to better understanding the basics. Great discussion. Looking forward to more like this!
Dang cool right there.
To much reliance on technology has always been an issue, in the 70s it was prepare for the big earthquake. A local news agency said bring your kits to the station and we can check what you have, people showed up with electric can openers.
Pathfinder and stoker together 😮
Been lost once in the mountains while elk hunting in NE Oregon. I knew the area well but a thick fog rolled in while I was tracking elk and you could see maybe a 100 ft. That fog disorientated me to the point that I had no clue to where I was. Decide to camp out until it lifted. Another hunter came upon me and he was lost and as it turned out heading in the wrong direction. I suggested he stick with me until it cleared but he continued on. I made it out and a search party was needed to rescue him. I did not have a compass or map with me which is a mistake I have not repeated.
Great information and awesome to see you two together. Master the basics and get out and practice. Best advice there is. Learn from Stokers or Pathfinders videos or books like FM 3-25-26. I’ve found 2 books on land Nav that had false information in them when it came to declination. Semper Fi Stoker!
Great video, thanks for sharing.
I've learned more listening to a couple of old guys talking (
Great food for thought!
great discussion. could you talk about following a contour line?
Will try to work something up on it.
This philosophy aligns to how I view land navigation from my time spent in the outdoors and hunting as comparison to the land nav training in the military. They both have their place but military land nav really far less so.
I’m loving your vids, and also want to know how to get one of your Stoked hats!!!
Like most skills one must use map and compass skills often enough to stay skilled. I could probably find my way now, but not with the precision I once had, use it or lose it.
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I'm subscribed to Tom's channel. Good guy. Thanks Stoker! Now havr a swigs of commie tears and ales🥃🍻🪂😁👍🏻🇺🇸
Do you know why there is a mirror on a compass? ....to see Mother Fu@ker who is lost....
So at 8 years of age you read Kochanski? And was it “The Grand Syllabus” or “Basic wilderness survival in the Deep Snow”? Every one of your replies has been you selling yourself. haha! Your are Trolling comment sections to make yourself feel better about you. If you truly spent time in nature you wouldn’t need to. So sad.
So sad.
@@STOKERMATIC Apologies, Stoker. This one fell out of the thread with someone else.
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