@@ralphbea7992 That, too, but the main glaring problem with their line up right now is Kabuki man. For the last two matches, he's been playing like a lower ranked MDL MM. Like bro, why does he keep going forward so aggressively? He ain't a fighter. He died like 2 times on the Harith just because he stepped a little too far forward for no reason at all. Like damn, is he a rookie or what?
YRG is good bcos of 2 import? How about the other 3? Then i think Onic should have another import to improve. 2 import will make onic champion "again" perhaps. Auch, Geek have how much import?@@SUPERSNAPDRAGON8556
Hear me out. What if roam yin could be viable in proffesional tournaments? Since chou roam is possible and they're managing to land ult on enemy backline despite all the stuns, pro yin users can do the same, or conceal + flicker combo can make landing ult possible. Yin doesn't even have to kill the enemy and use tank build for taking enemy backline or even front line for 8 whole second could make significant difference in team fights, and lord dance
It's good but not really providing much. Yin Damage roam however could make sense. Or if Yin tank is really the way to go, add fleeting time to him so that his ult cd is faster
I think yin semi tank would do, enough to lower adc health but still able to sustain, the team can try and finish off adc after 8 seconds while yin tries ti escape
A yin tank would be good for the neutral objectives cause it will always be no retri for the enemy but other than that it doesn't provide much since it doesn't have a big cc like chou
Nah fr i play roam yin i have 5k mmr for now yin is good if you know how to bait out enemy spells( winter crown , wind of nature, purify , flicker ) But i prefer Exp yin with flicker Never play it with petrify it is pointless in late game With yin Flicker you can jump into the backline to kill mage or marksman I recommend target mage because most mage dont have mobility
as sanford reminds mlbb pro players... Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted Yawi is in the bottom right now, karma is real... While his former teammates are in the grand finals again. What happened to No Yawi No Championship?
Better to lose against the current World Champions than some indo team who never made it to the grand finals for the past 2 seasons. Besides, TLID couldn't win against FNOC, who just got swept so easily by TLPH. What makes you think that TLID stands a chance against TLPH as of now? It takes the very best team today (FCAP) to beat TLPH, and even then, their games are always entertaining and extremely close match that the result could go either way, depending on which team can draft and execute better.
Idk why they lost on 2nd game they are dominating the game until they got hooked by ruby on the bottom lane where kabuki and queen gugun was picked off, they cant win if their core players is this weak
I think it's time to actually consider Ranked games meta instead of competitive meta. You get it, right? These RG players crafted the perfect meta to win games, and even Gojes said there is one particular meta that makes it easy to rank up by winning early game. I really want to see Johnson, Aldous, the list goes on.
@@bigfloppa9218 It's just something I realised after seeing Moonton's constant change of patches. I believe these RG players adapts faster, as they have higher demographics to test the meta compared to pros who almost always scrimmage to test the meta (source: MobaZane on C9 back in MSC, he believes Alpha wins him games _in scrims,_ see what I'm saying?)
@@a_very_burnt_steak you have a point but rg is really diff from pro player its because pro player need to stick together for the potential set up and they cover all the map so js strat is not gonna work same with this yin you see he died alot in this game and aldous yeah he is a meta pick when blacklist is still in their prime it is aldous jungle and its so strong
Some Ranked Game picks are actually really interesting (especially with Yin now being a pick). It'd be cool to see Cyclops and other heroes to be in the tournament. Though it is a double edged sword, because there are also stupid RG picks that go TikTok levels stupidity ☠️☠️☠️
Dude his literally carrying that ass team while playing as a roamer😂😂😂 even the casters are keep mentioning that, their sides needs to step up specially kabuki damn it feels like even the rg boys in ph can outplay him😂😂😂
@@Hunyelo yawi is good kairi is the best jungler in ID sadly Indo weak region zero lQ gameplay low micro skills low macro skills no discipline think to highly of themselves even though Indo trash
@@Bingchilling691 i dont think...when you go dive into the game ...kabuki always late and doest prepared when going to war....and kabuki gameplay does not shows any upgraded still same as before....i like he aggressive play style...but most of the game he are so passive...MLBB play as a team there is no logical to said 4 useless...gugun have good consistancy....yawi creating so much space dan setup play...but team always initiated late when goes to team fight....
Ngl, Yin is interesting to see here, but it clearly didn't work (like the Saber Roam from Baloyskie, wherein the only reason why GFam even won that specific fight against RRQ back 2 seasons ago in the Reg Season is because RRQ overextended the fight) TLID overextended the fight like RRQ did back then, these unorthodox picks are not meant to work, but they work because the opposing teams end up extending everything too long. When they do pick these strange units, they need to win via game of patience (attrition), the other team with the arguably better draft will eventually wear off. Which is what happened to TLID in Game 2 ☠️☠️☠️ And god, Kabuki and Yawi...are being way too aggressive
I thought yin is banned in professional tournaments because of his domain forcing the spectators to watch the domain fight rather than the fight outside but aye
wdym? yawi was the shotcaller of echo before, in the m4 series yawi was their shotcaller and it made them win but everything change when they change their roamer to jaypee and jaypee became the shotcaller and because of that they didn't make it to qualify in m5 hahaha. And why do you blame yawi when his team right now are the one that's getting pick off over and over and dying and can't keep up with yawi hahaha
@@christianibana933 Yawi AND Karl were the shotcallers, this was mentioned by one of the PH casters in a stream, when they were comparing BLCK's(Veenus) shotcalling to ECHO's. Karltzy has been the shotcaller of the team he's in ever since seagames Sibol 2019-mpl s6.
@@bmad1386 bro the main shotcaller is yawi and karl only shotcalls a little like 90% of their plays is from yawi's shotcalls. That's why they were once called echo express because of their aggressiveness and that aggressiveness was because of yawi's shotcalls
take it like this, if you have to shot caller wouldn't it brings confusion to the team because they don't know who to follow. That's why they made yawi as the main shot caller and karl was only a back up shot caller. But they had an issue during the upcoming m5 series back then where karl and benny is saying that yawi is to aggressive and risky that's why they change their roamer from yawi to jaypee because jaypee's shot calls was not risky but little did they know that it caused them the m5 qualifiers because jaypee is playing too much safe in his shot calls and echo is known for their aggressiveness because of yawi
@@christianibana933 take it like this, the play style of Echo is not much different from the M2 Bren that had Karl as the shotcaller, the shotcalling was balanced on both Yawi and Karl, because if you know the history of Yawi, he and NXP that he used to lead were known for messy random teamfights(like what's currently happening in Indo)
@@Steph-bu6wh tank? Tanong mo kay baloyskie na kahit roam bumubuhat🤣😆 kpag natatalo yawi sinasabe nio plagi na di makakabuhat ung roam🤣 pero ng nasa echo pa sya panay kayo banggit ng yawi nagbubuhat sa echo 😆
Kabuki needs to hit the grind man. He seems so out of shape in terms of his gameplay. Bro's been doing some extremely questionable plays.
Kabuki so weak
He's probably better as jungler
@@Sei003 yawi also need to widen his hero pool not just chou and grock
Playing like basic
@@ralphbea7992 That, too, but the main glaring problem with their line up right now is Kabuki man. For the last two matches, he's been playing like a lower ranked MDL MM. Like bro, why does he keep going forward so aggressively? He ain't a fighter. He died like 2 times on the Harith just because he stepped a little too far forward for no reason at all. Like damn, is he a rookie or what?
Yawi: I left ECHO because I want to improve as a pro player
- You call this improving?
More like downgrading lmao
"I left ECHO for Indo Girls" Yawi probably 😆👍🏻👍🏻
@@SRGCHAMP Most likely answer 🤣🤣
Like YRG without imports they won't reach grandstage hahaha
YRG is good bcos of 2 import? How about the other 3?
Then i think Onic should have another import to improve. 2 import will make onic champion "again" perhaps.
Auch, Geek have how much import?@@SUPERSNAPDRAGON8556
Yawi be like
Left Echo for improving❌
Left Echo for indo girls✅
hey thats securing the future man.. lol
Hear me out.
What if roam yin could be viable in proffesional tournaments?
Since chou roam is possible and they're managing to land ult on enemy backline despite all the stuns, pro yin users can do the same, or conceal + flicker combo can make landing ult possible.
Yin doesn't even have to kill the enemy and use tank build for taking enemy backline or even front line for 8 whole second could make significant difference in team fights, and lord dance
It's good but not really providing much. Yin Damage roam however could make sense. Or if Yin tank is really the way to go, add fleeting time to him so that his ult cd is faster
Wow you just told me one of the thing yin user do each time they play solo but didnt get jungler role, they go roam or exp😵
I think yin semi tank would do, enough to lower adc health but still able to sustain, the team can try and finish off adc after 8 seconds while yin tries ti escape
A yin tank would be good for the neutral objectives cause it will always be no retri for the enemy but other than that it doesn't provide much since it doesn't have a big cc like chou
Nah fr i play roam yin i have 5k mmr for now yin is good if you know how to bait out enemy spells( winter crown , wind of nature, purify , flicker )
But i prefer Exp yin with flicker
Never play it with petrify it is pointless in late game
With yin Flicker you can jump into the backline to kill mage or marksman
I recommend target mage because most mage dont have mobility
as sanford reminds mlbb pro players...
Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted
Yawi is in the bottom right now, karma is real...
While his former teammates are in the grand finals again.
What happened to No Yawi No Championship?
Yah, they keep losing to bren
3 straight loss against FCAP
so where is the championship? exactly..
Better to lose against the current World Champions than some indo team who never made it to the grand finals for the past 2 seasons.
Besides, TLID couldn't win against FNOC, who just got swept so easily by TLPH. What makes you think that TLID stands a chance against TLPH as of now? It takes the very best team today (FCAP) to beat TLPH, and even then, their games are always entertaining and extremely close match that the result could go either way, depending on which team can draft and execute better.
@@troy5568Nice cope but a loss is a loss, regardless of who they lost to
It's just last season when they struggled in their 1st 2 games. Wait for them to have a good team chemistry.
Idk why they lost on 2nd game they are dominating the game until they got hooked by ruby on the bottom lane where kabuki and queen gugun was picked off, they cant win if their core players is this weak
Yin first appearance took a lot of years
I think it's time to actually consider Ranked games meta instead of competitive meta.
You get it, right? These RG players crafted the perfect meta to win games, and even Gojes said there is one particular meta that makes it easy to rank up by winning early game.
I really want to see Johnson, Aldous, the list goes on.
@@a_very_burnt_steak you have a point honestly
@@bigfloppa9218 It's just something I realised after seeing Moonton's constant change of patches. I believe these RG players adapts faster, as they have higher demographics to test the meta compared to pros who almost always scrimmage to test the meta (source: MobaZane on C9 back in MSC, he believes Alpha wins him games _in scrims,_ see what I'm saying?)
@@a_very_burnt_steak you have a point but rg is really diff from pro player its because pro player need to stick together for the potential set up and they cover all the map so js strat is not gonna work same with this yin you see he died alot in this game and aldous yeah he is a meta pick when blacklist is still in their prime it is aldous jungle and its so strong
Some Ranked Game picks are actually really interesting (especially with Yin now being a pick).
It'd be cool to see Cyclops and other heroes to be in the tournament.
Though it is a double edged sword, because there are also stupid RG picks that go TikTok levels stupidity ☠️☠️☠️
Yawi deserve better team
They want ph player just give them ph player and let them loose indo team don't trust there own indo legends😊
Yawi is good in expand roam..
Pair him with yehezekiel, fabian.. it would be good..
This is your big 3
Yawi wants to be like kairi but turns out to be his worst decision ever.
Yawi was roamer ,Kairi was hyper.
Different things
Sadly ID gameplay sucks weak region
Dude his literally carrying that ass team while playing as a roamer😂😂😂 even the casters are keep mentioning that, their sides needs to step up specially kabuki damn it feels like even the rg boys in ph can outplay him😂😂😂
Don't compare YAWEAK with goat ASSASIN handsome Kairi
@@Hunyelo yawi is good kairi is the best jungler in ID sadly Indo weak region zero lQ gameplay low micro skills low macro skills no discipline think to highly of themselves even though Indo trash
Not all about Yawi....i think change goldlaner ....kabuki sooo useless
Meanwhile kabuki back then : always hard carrying aura with 4 members useless😅
😂😂@@Bingchilling691
@@Bingchilling691 i dont think...when you go dive into the game ...kabuki always late and doest prepared when going to war....and kabuki gameplay does not shows any upgraded still same as before....i like he aggressive play style...but most of the game he are so passive...MLBB play as a team there is no logical to said 4 useless...gugun have good consistancy....yawi creating so much space dan setup play...but team always initiated late when goes to team fight....
Kabuki is overhyped AF. He's only good in Beatrix when Beatrix was super meta.
this exp laner always like this 2:14
he's still adjusting. he was more of a flanker/split pusher instead of a frontliner.
@@amirulasyraf8804 that's why he is always pick off in last playoffs
YAWI WITHOUT ECHO IS NOTHING,,BUT ECHO WITHOUT YAWI IS STILL ON TOP AND WINNING AGAINST ONIC EASILY.OR MAYBE MPL ID IS NOW EZ SERVER😂😂😂
Kabuki is so bad man, he's the damage dealer there but he's so afraid
Ngl, Yin is interesting to see here, but it clearly didn't work (like the Saber Roam from Baloyskie, wherein the only reason why GFam even won that specific fight against RRQ back 2 seasons ago in the Reg Season is because RRQ overextended the fight)
TLID overextended the fight like RRQ did back then, these unorthodox picks are not meant to work, but they work because the opposing teams end up extending everything too long.
When they do pick these strange units, they need to win via game of patience (attrition), the other team with the arguably better draft will eventually wear off. Which is what happened to TLID in Game 2 ☠️☠️☠️
And god, Kabuki and Yawi...are being way too aggressive
Yawii is ah pick off player he still practicing some team fights tanks
Only Yawi in TLID has MPL standard, other id players don't use their brain.
So much hatred to yawi 🤣 the question is why Liquid pick Barats utility jungler 🤣🤣🤣
Kenn vs yawi:titan Eren vs iori yagami😂
Idk why the comment section trolling yawi,you guys definitely dont watch the game deeply.Maybe jealous of his fame
Yo that roger super fast holy sht ferrari😂
Where's emann now?
LETS BE REAL HERE, TLID WILL NEVER BECOME AS GOOD AS THEIR COUNTERPART. *mic drop*
I thought yin is banned in professional tournaments because of his domain forcing the spectators to watch the domain fight rather than the fight outside but aye
Well no because yin is easy to counter and he's bad at contesting turtle/lord.
@@kutaka7570 He squishy but i think he can hold to some teamfights
Kabuki seams like kamote😅
Yawi got Lora Nerfed
andaming mistakes ng kasama ni yawi halos ewan yung gagawin nila
They should replace kabuki, he has no impact.
they should let in jeymz bruh
yawi getting exposed lol. overrated
TLID IS STILL NO HOPE 😂😂IF KABUKI IS THIER GOLDLANER😂😂KABUKI IS NOT GOOD GOLDLANER😂😂😂
kabuki is very2 weak...who see this live match...can agree what i talking..local player indo very2 downgrade now...what happen dowhh??
This team become useless 😂😂😂 all of them 🤭 are afraid to die during any clash 🤣
Tf mpl id like an RG in PH
Remove the coach and kabuki
ez
Easy Server
yawi m4 can't carry indo bot
Man I don't even wanna say it, but, was Yawi actually just carried by Karl's shotcalling?😢
wdym? yawi was the shotcaller of echo before, in the m4 series yawi was their shotcaller and it made them win but everything change when they change their roamer to jaypee and jaypee became the shotcaller and because of that they didn't make it to qualify in m5 hahaha. And why do you blame yawi when his team right now are the one that's getting pick off over and over and dying and can't keep up with yawi hahaha
@@christianibana933 Yawi AND Karl were the shotcallers, this was mentioned by one of the PH casters in a stream, when they were comparing BLCK's(Veenus) shotcalling to ECHO's.
Karltzy has been the shotcaller of the team he's in ever since seagames Sibol 2019-mpl s6.
@@bmad1386 bro the main shotcaller is yawi and karl only shotcalls a little like 90% of their plays is from yawi's shotcalls. That's why they were once called echo express because of their aggressiveness and that aggressiveness was because of yawi's shotcalls
take it like this, if you have to shot caller wouldn't it brings confusion to the team because they don't know who to follow. That's why they made yawi as the main shot caller and karl was only a back up shot caller. But they had an issue during the upcoming m5 series back then where karl and benny is saying that yawi is to aggressive and risky that's why they change their roamer from yawi to jaypee because jaypee's shot calls was not risky but little did they know that it caused them the m5 qualifiers because jaypee is playing too much safe in his shot calls and echo is known for their aggressiveness because of yawi
@@christianibana933 take it like this, the play style of Echo is not much different from the M2 Bren that had Karl as the shotcaller, the shotcalling was balanced on both Yawi and Karl, because if you know the history of Yawi, he and NXP that he used to lead were known for messy random teamfights(like what's currently happening in Indo)
Rg meta
Kabuki sucks ... Lacking with goldlane ...
Yaweak😂
CHOU ONLY 🤭 AND PEENOISE CALL HIM BEST ROAMER IN THE WORLD 🤭
lol his team mates is a ss bro indog weak he needs a team mates to perform the shot call
PIGNOY ROAMER🤭CAN'T CARRY 100/0/0🤭AND PEENOISE CALL HIM BEST ROAMER IN THE WORLD🤭
@@JobamnaJoestar Butthurt?
@@JobamnaJoestar indog very weak team mates
Kram team🦾🦾🦾..yawi team🤡🤡
MPL ID boring asf
No need to watch the MPL
Just remove YAWI. That is the answer.
Lol yawi is not the problem in team liquid id how can a tank carry in game if your damage dealers are trash
True. He does not belong in that garbage heap.
Except Yawi, all TLID players are problem
All of them are problem even coaches
The reason indo is irrelevant
Hina talaga ni yawi😂
Lol paano mabubuhat ni yawi e tank siya
@@Steph-bu6wh tank? Tanong mo kay baloyskie na kahit roam bumubuhat🤣😆 kpag natatalo yawi sinasabe nio plagi na di makakabuhat ung roam🤣 pero ng nasa echo pa sya panay kayo banggit ng yawi nagbubuhat sa echo 😆
1st
Yin still played very bad tho