And that is what I searched for...from the age of 21. A People, who actually functioned with God-ordained Apostles/Prophets, who could bring forth HIs Word....FOR TODAY...together with His Words that have come forth in the past, and be the Foundation, the "center of gravity" of a True Covenant People of God who can actually be ONE as the Father and the Son are one...because they have the authority and word and revelation of the Kingdom in the center of their life....Through His Prophets...and ideally, as you see in Acts 15 and 16:4 and Eph. 2:19-21.....not just one Prophet, but a Quorum of Prophets/Apostles who together....are the FOUNDATION...by which those who receive the Prophets...can TRULY KNOW...God's Will and walk in it...TOGETHER! It is clear to me...that the Bible...or any other record of God's interaction with His People through Prophets...is not sufficient...because the Scriptures...do NOT "teach themselves". The Scriptures NEED Apostolic/Prophetic Leaders/Teachers...the same kind of God-ordained leaders through which God brought forth His Word to His People in the Past...to as they hear from Him for today for His People...can combine God's current revelation...with His Past revelation..rightly divided. 2 Peter 1:20-21 New King James Version (NKJV) knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. I believe that this is WHY...on the Day of Pentecost...the 3,000 that responded to God's Eternal Promise of the Gospel...and were gladly baptized....were not given a Bible and sent back to wherever they were from...no, they were ADDED...to verse 46 of Acts 2..."they continued steadfastly in the Apostles Teaching and Fellowship" So the Scriptures are WONDERFUL...but apart from the Authority of God on the earth through Prophets...that His People actually RECEIVE AS His Prophets...to rightly divide His Past Words and combine them with ongoing revelation for TODAY....the Past Scriptures, interpreted by countless human beings according to their own understandings...does NOT produce a "Covenant People" for Him...but endless division and strife and disunity...it produces the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Jesus Christ lived for, prayed for in John 17, and then died for...and rose for....and for which He sent forth the Spirit that gathers into One. It does NOT, and CAN NOT....bring forth a Covenant People...who are "one as the Father and the Son"....but produces the exact opposite. Put 1000 people who are zealous to serve God, in a huge building and give them all Bibles and tell them it's their only rule of faith and practice...and they will NEVER all come to the same conclusions about what "faith and practice" the Bible commands. They will divide endlessly. Put 1000 people who are zealous to serve God, in a huge building and give them all the Scriptures AND a Prophet, actually ordained of God to lead them...from all Past Scripture combined with current revelation from God of His will for His People for today...and however many of the 1000 people who RECEIVE God's Prophet...will all receive the Prophet's reward...they will all receive the Father and the Son truly, by receiving the Prophet that the Father and the Son have sent...and they will become One...as the Father and the Son are One. And this "follow God's Prophet" plan would actually work also...without them all having Bibles...and with most all of them not being able to even read a Bible if they had one...as has been the case in most places through most of human history. God's Plan for His Covenant People...has to be a plan that can work not just for modern literate humans with access to books/bibles...but also would work for the meek and humble and lowly, people of the earth who could NOT read...and had no access to "books"...which never existed in a form accessible and affordable to most people...till very recently. Only 575 years ago, did books just begin to be printed! That's less than 10% of human history...has had access to "books" available to all. And the BIBLE ITSELF... if one is willing to see it....makes all this perfectly clear...as you are seeing. And it is amazing that you are seeing this. It is transformative. It is courageous of you to be willing to face up to this. It changes everything once you see this. This is actually what drove me for 47 years....once I saw this way back in 1976...I couldn't unsee it. Of course... it's also really clear...that human beings, for the most part...do NOT want to see this...and do NOT want to receive God's Prophets...even when they are standing right in front of them. They would much rather CONTINUE to "have no King/Prophet in the Land" and continue to "do whatever is right in their own eyes". Historically, most people's reaction to God's Prophet or Prophets...is to exclude them, cast them out as evil...ignore them at best, or at worst, pick up rocks and stone them to death... I don't want to be that way. If His People...receiving His Prophets...is truly God's Plan A...and also His Plan B,C, D, etc., and I really believe that it is...and He isn't changing His mind on this...I want to humbly submit to this and follow His Prophet/Prophets! and not imagine I have a better Idea. Love you brother...dearly...and Ebony and your daughters also! Have a glorious Thanksgiving! Your friend forever, David
Without the prophets of God to keep things all smoothly running and plumbed and well oiied, all the years of stuffing down sola scriptora for years which makes no sense at all to me creates these spiritual blockages. Those blockages are caused by the rejection of God's Prophets and Rejecting current revelation. And those blockages cause the people to become divided among themselves going their own separate ways and starting up their own private little bible book clubs instead of following and accepting to be led by God's living prophets. The Lord did not come down to this planet to tell people to start up thousands of private bible book clubs on past dead prophets but come into his kingdom instead on the earth with following the foundation of living prophets and apostles. Here it is about the covenant saints receiving their rewards along with the prophets of God. 'And the nations were angry (oh dear), and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto THY SERVANTS THE PROPHETS, AND TO THE SAINTS, and them that fear thy name, small and great, and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." Rev 11:18 The Born Again Evangelist Christians have been taught to believe that they will be saved with just only Jesus. Just them and Jesus.. But the scriptures teach the complete opposite that the saints of God are saved not just with only just Jesus but saved also with the all prophets of God.... So it wasn't just Jesus alone, it was Jesus and also all his prophets and the saints. because the saints and the prophets of God all work together when they labor in the Lord's vineyard. That's why they the saints were all present with the prophets when they got their rewards
I gave four books of Mormon for Thanksgiving to the people that the Lord placed in front of me ,, and I'm planning to give up many more for Christmas😊.
Thanks for your message, I viewed a few seconds of some of those caricatures today (I think I was tricked to click on one). I resisted posting a comment, afraid of giving some poor demon someone to fight with. Even telling them that they are wrong is what the demons want, to make more contention.
Those who do claim the Bible Only, how do they decide which of the "Inerrant" word of God version or versions of the over 900 english versions to go with? Since they not only don't read the same, but some actually have places that read the opposite from each other. And then you add all the different versions in different languages. Nothing but a living Prophet could tell people which is the closest to the original, and which variation of that version is most correct.
From wjat I know there are 26 different bibles nowadays. Now If a person wants to beleive that after Christ there was not more revelation, then that person has to deny all the writings form John, luke and Marc. All of whom were there after Christ resurected.
The answer is the Book of Mormon to know the mysteries of God😊😊 The Book of Mormon is for the Jew the Gentile All Nations all Creeds every creature,, It testifies that Jesus is the Christ and that a man will get NEARER to God by abiding by it's PRECEPTS than any other book it comprehends all TRUTH It HIGHLIGHTS and ENHANCES the BIBLICAL writings and all that has EVER been WRITTEN about Jesus Christ😊😊 I so testify in the name of Jesus Christ amen😊
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Exactly correct David. John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? Jesus tells them they didn't believe the Prophet's writings so they didn't believe Him. Same as today, the vast majority won't believe we have prophets. They say they believe in the dead ones but they can't agree on all their teachings. 2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost Exact reason there is so much disagreement on what the Bible teaches and what is important and what isn't. Thank God for living prophets and the Book of Mormon
Sorry this is so long but you may find this of value. The authority by which the original transcript which now constitutes the Bible was written is definite in its authority, that of God speaking through his apostles and prophets on Earth. We understand that, as is our claim of all of our canonized scripture. The logical fallacy here is in the many translations and alterations the Bible has gone through over time. How many different versions of the Bible are there? Did the King James version make the Bible more true or less true? If neither, then how can there be multiple versions of the Bible and still have it be infallible? And which of these do you consider to be the proper Bible? 👉 The Syrianic version of 61 books 👉 the Protestant version of 66 books 👉 the Roman Catholic version of 73 books 👉 the Coptic version of 75 books 👉 the Charismatic version of 76 books 👉 the Greek Orthodox of 78 books, 👉 the Ethiopic version of 81 books and 👉 the Orthodox version of 86 books If the Syrianic version, are the other 25 books not the word of God? Are they duplicitous? If the Orthodox version, what are the other 25 books? How can they be left out and still have it infallible? What of the Jehovah's Witness version, which has certain verses crossed out as not being important? Any of the other versions have a combination of the above issues to resolve. Which version is infallible, and which interpretation of that version? I am bilingual, having served my mission in Santiago Chile. As such I know that exact translations are impossible from language to language. Take for example the Spanish word of "ánimo". If you look it up in the dictionary it translates to "cheer up", but if you translate "cheer" into Spanish it translates to "alegría". And what happens when you translate that back into English? "Happiness", which misses the mark by a mile when going back to the original word of "ánimo". The closest we can come in English is something along the lines of "animated enthusiasm", wherein someone is anxious to move on with a project or learn something, but each of those words translates into something different. Considering all the different scribes the Bible has gone through over many years before the printing press, the different translations from one language to another and back again, the different variants and subtle nuances of words in the Greek and Syriac and Aramaic and Hebrew languages, is it any wonder that some of the meaning has been lost over the years? Not to mention the machinations of various designing scribes and clergy. At least King James tried to get things back to the original, but in the KJV there are many verses in italics which indicate alterations by the scribes. So I ask again, which version is infallible? And if so, how did it become that way when it's different than the version which preceded it? You see how there's a logical disconnect here? So no, by reason alone we can see that the Bible cannot be infallible in its translation. I have studied both books my entire life and I have many more questions about the Bible than of The Book of Mormon.
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And that is what I searched for...from the age of 21. A People, who actually functioned with God-ordained Apostles/Prophets, who could bring forth HIs Word....FOR TODAY...together with His Words that have come forth in the past, and be the Foundation, the "center of gravity" of a True Covenant People of God who can actually be ONE as the Father and the Son are one...because they have the authority and word and revelation of the Kingdom in the center of their life....Through His Prophets...and ideally, as you see in Acts 15 and 16:4 and Eph. 2:19-21.....not just one Prophet, but a Quorum of Prophets/Apostles who together....are the FOUNDATION...by which those who receive the Prophets...can TRULY KNOW...God's Will and walk in it...TOGETHER!
It is clear to me...that the Bible...or any other record of God's interaction with His People through Prophets...is not sufficient...because the Scriptures...do NOT "teach themselves".
The Scriptures NEED Apostolic/Prophetic Leaders/Teachers...the same kind of God-ordained leaders through which God brought forth His Word to His People in the Past...to as they hear from Him for today for His People...can combine God's current revelation...with His Past revelation..rightly divided.
2 Peter 1:20-21 New King James Version (NKJV)
knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
I believe that this is WHY...on the Day of Pentecost...the 3,000 that responded to God's Eternal Promise of the Gospel...and were gladly baptized....were not given a Bible and sent back to wherever they were from...no, they were ADDED...to verse 46 of Acts 2..."they continued steadfastly in the Apostles Teaching and Fellowship"
So the Scriptures are WONDERFUL...but apart from the Authority of God on the earth through Prophets...that His People actually RECEIVE AS His Prophets...to rightly divide His Past Words and combine them with ongoing revelation for TODAY....the Past Scriptures, interpreted by countless human beings according to their own understandings...does NOT produce a "Covenant People" for Him...but endless division and strife and disunity...it produces the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Jesus Christ lived for, prayed for in John 17, and then died for...and rose for....and for which He sent forth the Spirit that gathers into One. It does NOT, and CAN NOT....bring forth a Covenant People...who are "one as the Father and the Son"....but produces the exact opposite.
Put 1000 people who are zealous to serve God, in a huge building and give them all Bibles and tell them it's their only rule of faith and practice...and they will NEVER all come to the same conclusions about what "faith and practice" the Bible commands. They will divide endlessly.
Put 1000 people who are zealous to serve God, in a huge building and give them all the Scriptures AND a Prophet, actually ordained of God to lead them...from all Past Scripture combined with current revelation from God of His will for His People for today...and however many of the 1000 people who RECEIVE God's Prophet...will all receive the Prophet's reward...they will all receive the Father and the Son truly, by receiving the Prophet that the Father and the Son have sent...and they will become One...as the Father and the Son are One.
And this "follow God's Prophet" plan would actually work also...without them all having Bibles...and with most all of them not being able to even read a Bible if they had one...as has been the case in most places through most of human history.
God's Plan for His Covenant People...has to be a plan that can work not just for modern literate humans with access to books/bibles...but also would work for the meek and humble and lowly, people of the earth who could NOT read...and had no access to "books"...which never existed in a form accessible and affordable to most people...till very recently. Only 575 years ago, did books just begin to be printed! That's less than 10% of human history...has had access to "books" available to all.
And the BIBLE ITSELF... if one is willing to see it....makes all this perfectly clear...as you are seeing. And it is amazing that you are seeing this. It is transformative. It is courageous of you to be willing to face up to this. It changes everything once you see this. This is actually what drove me for 47 years....once I saw this way back in 1976...I couldn't unsee it.
Of course... it's also really clear...that human beings, for the most part...do NOT want to see this...and do NOT want to receive God's Prophets...even when they are standing right in front of them. They would much rather CONTINUE to "have no King/Prophet in the Land" and continue to "do whatever is right in their own eyes".
Historically, most people's reaction to God's Prophet or Prophets...is to exclude them, cast them out as evil...ignore them at best, or at worst, pick up rocks and stone them to death...
I don't want to be that way. If His People...receiving His Prophets...is truly God's Plan A...and also His Plan B,C, D, etc., and I really believe that it is...and He isn't changing His mind on this...I want to humbly submit to this and follow His Prophet/Prophets! and not imagine I have a better Idea.
Love you brother...dearly...and Ebony and your daughters also! Have a glorious Thanksgiving!
Your friend forever, David
Without the prophets of God to keep things all smoothly running and plumbed and well oiied, all the years of stuffing down sola scriptora for years which makes no sense at all to me creates these spiritual blockages. Those blockages are caused by the rejection of God's Prophets and Rejecting current revelation. And those blockages cause the people to become divided among themselves going their own separate ways and starting up their own private little bible book clubs instead of following and accepting to be led by God's living prophets. The Lord did not come down to this planet to tell people to start up thousands of private bible book clubs on past dead prophets but come into his kingdom instead on the earth with following the foundation of living prophets and apostles.
Here it is about the covenant saints receiving their rewards along with the prophets of God.
'And the nations were angry (oh dear), and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto THY SERVANTS THE PROPHETS, AND TO THE SAINTS, and them that fear thy name, small and great, and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." Rev 11:18
The Born Again Evangelist Christians have been taught to believe that they will be saved with just only Jesus. Just them and Jesus.. But the scriptures teach the complete opposite that the saints of God are saved not just with only just Jesus but saved also with the all prophets of God.... So it wasn't just Jesus alone, it was Jesus and also all his prophets and the saints. because the saints and the prophets of God all work together when they labor in the Lord's vineyard. That's why they the saints were all present with the prophets when they got their rewards
I love this church so much . Glad you finally found it . Happy Thanksgiving to you and Jane . Take good care of her .
I gave four books of Mormon for Thanksgiving to the people that the Lord placed in front of me ,,
and I'm planning to give up many more for Christmas😊.
“Without prophetic vision the people perish” Proverbs 29:18
Scripture alone is not enough, we need Apostles and Prophets .
Nicely done said to see you move from Idaho. Thank you for all your videos.
Just hearing you speak, I can tell you are one of the most sincere and faithful follower of Christ. Thank you for your missionary work on TH-cam.
Thank you David for sharing the fire within you.
Thanks for your message, I viewed a few seconds of some of those caricatures today (I think I was tricked to click on one). I resisted posting a comment, afraid of giving some poor demon someone to fight with. Even telling them that they are wrong is what the demons want, to make more contention.
Happy Thanksgiving
that’s beautiful
Those who do claim the Bible Only, how do they decide which of the "Inerrant" word of God version or versions of the over 900 english versions to go with? Since they not only don't read the same, but some actually have places that read the opposite from each other. And then you add all the different versions in different languages. Nothing but a living Prophet could tell people which is the closest to the original, and which variation of that version is most correct.
Love you 😘
From wjat I know there are 26 different bibles nowadays. Now If a person wants to beleive that after Christ there was not more revelation, then that person has to deny all the writings form John, luke and Marc. All of whom were there after Christ resurected.
The answer is the Book of Mormon to know the mysteries of God😊😊
The Book of Mormon is for the Jew the Gentile All Nations all Creeds every creature,,
It testifies that Jesus is the Christ and that a man will get NEARER to God by abiding by it's PRECEPTS than any other book
it comprehends all TRUTH
It HIGHLIGHTS
and ENHANCES the BIBLICAL writings and all that has EVER been WRITTEN about Jesus Christ😊😊
I so testify in the name of Jesus Christ amen😊
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Exactly correct David.
John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Jesus tells them they didn't believe the Prophet's writings so they didn't believe Him. Same as today, the vast majority won't believe we have prophets. They say they believe in the dead ones but they can't agree on all their teachings.
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost
Exact reason there is so much disagreement on what the Bible teaches and what is important and what isn't. Thank God for living prophets and the Book of Mormon
Sorry this is so long but you may find this of value.
The authority by which the original transcript which now constitutes the Bible was written is definite in its authority, that of God speaking through his apostles and prophets on Earth. We understand that, as is our claim of all of our canonized scripture. The logical fallacy here is in the many translations and alterations the Bible has gone through over time. How many different versions of the Bible are there? Did the King James version make the Bible more true or less true? If neither, then how can there be multiple versions of the Bible and still have it be infallible? And which of these do you consider to be the proper Bible?
👉 The Syrianic version of 61 books
👉 the Protestant version of 66 books
👉 the Roman Catholic version of 73 books
👉 the Coptic version of 75 books
👉 the Charismatic version of 76 books
👉 the Greek Orthodox of 78 books,
👉 the Ethiopic version of 81 books and
👉 the Orthodox version of 86 books
If the Syrianic version, are the other 25 books not the word of God? Are they duplicitous? If the Orthodox version, what are the other 25 books? How can they be left out and still have it infallible? What of the Jehovah's Witness version, which has certain verses crossed out as not being important? Any of the other versions have a combination of the above issues to resolve. Which version is infallible, and which interpretation of that version?
I am bilingual, having served my mission in Santiago Chile. As such I know that exact translations are impossible from language to language. Take for example the Spanish word of "ánimo". If you look it up in the dictionary it translates to "cheer up", but if you translate "cheer" into Spanish it translates to "alegría". And what happens when you translate that back into English? "Happiness", which misses the mark by a mile when going back to the original word of "ánimo". The closest we can come in English is something along the lines of "animated enthusiasm", wherein someone is anxious to move on with a project or learn something, but each of those words translates into something different.
Considering all the different scribes the Bible has gone through over many years before the printing press, the different translations from one language to another and back again, the different variants and subtle nuances of words in the Greek and Syriac and Aramaic and Hebrew languages, is it any wonder that some of the meaning has been lost over the years? Not to mention the machinations of various designing scribes and clergy. At least King James tried to get things back to the original, but in the KJV there are many verses in italics which indicate alterations by the scribes.
So I ask again, which version is infallible? And if so, how did it become that way when it's different than the version which preceded it? You see how there's a logical disconnect here? So no, by reason alone we can see that the Bible cannot be infallible in its translation.
I have studied both books my entire life and I have many more questions about the Bible than of The Book of Mormon.
Chile and learning Spanish was the best mission experience for me also, serving in the first group of missionaries called to Concepcion.