I never subscribe, but your videos have finally put me over the edge. You create the BEST instructional videos out there for our profession. They are to the point, well edited, and always allign with best practices. Thank you for making such great contributions to the community. I've been doing this over 20 years and can always learn something from you.
Hi Dan. I'm a recreational climber. I have sometimes used a similar technique but with just one throw line and one weight. If I get my line over loads of branches, I remove the weight and reattach it to the middle of the throw line. Then I use a technique similar to yours, pulling the weight from both sides to guide it between branches on the way down. Best regards Stuart
You can easily be less lame with a bit of practice in the park. Getting pin point accuracy is very very hard, and this technique means you don't need the pin point accuracy
Exactly the same with me 😄. I also think a split screen and a small drawing per hand could be helpful in this case of explanation. Thanks for the great video from good old Germany!
Thank you for this Dan. Self taught here...and all this time...I never knew. I am deadly with a big shot because of it, but this is going to make life a lot easier. Thank you!
I actually watched the double bag system video b4 the original single rope & bag video. I'm alright with the throwlines but getting a friction saver over a crotch from the ground is more difficult. I'm usually climbing up there DRT & tie myself off right below the crotch & then install the friction saver. 😮
I got lost at 4:15, I thought you just attached the 2nd throwline to the ball-end of the first, but then suddenly you’re pulling “both throwlines at once”….how did the 2nd throwline get up in the tree? Sorry if I’m missing something obvious
3:45 the second line got connected. Then that clip you see at 4:15 was edited in too soon, so sorry for the confusion. The second line was first pulled up and over and then dropped back down 🤦🏻
Use drone to get line up? Tie to larger line if need. Shrouded props to help navigate through limbs. Could be precision stuff. A $35 drone and monofilament (fishing line) could thread the needle for larger lines tied to it. Watched a surf fisher drop his line far out in the surf with a drone much further than he could have cast it.
I'm starting to do more SRT this year. So instead of getting up into a lower union & advancing as I climb in an open MRS system I'm looking to get a throwbag up higher from the ground. Did u only have 2 bags between the 2 different lines u had up there & how long are your throwlines?😮
@@ClimbingArborist Gotcha, I deal with alot of busy co-dominants & I need to go from one side to the other. This method should help when I can't put it up in the union perfect. I've been leaving paracord up in crotches so when I'm ready to cut it helps with the process.
Dan, it would be easier for me to visualize the techniques, and their results, if you could make it a synchronized split-screen (left & right), so that we could see the correlation of your hand manipulation to a close-up view of the throw bags reaction. I suppose that there is no substitute for actually practising, but I can see myself getting frustrated quickly by having initial failure to get desired results. Anyway, ...just a thought.
'How to get good with a throwline'. Throwing it in the first try almost perfectly high in a tree. Went to practice myself. After 6+ throws got my throwing bag stuck forever in the fork of a tree. 😅 Next time will try a bow with arrows instead. 😁
For me it depends on the humidity, moon phase , and many other factors to set a throw line. And even with an air cannon I still find my throwball several houses away. Anyhow thanks for the video lord knowsI need it.
Enjoyed the video. This technique does work for obtaining ideal target route for your climb line. However, You have to get your initial throw to come down to the ground before you can try this technique. I got a ball stuck way up in an oak yesterday on my third throw. No way could I get the ball to come down and couldn't even pull it out to try again. This happens....no way around it. So, hopefully you get a good throw in and your first throw ball comes to the ground. Then you can play around to get a better route up there if necessary. Thanks for posting this video.
Yesterday I was throwing a 16oz ball as I was working a multi stem oak and bark and spaghetti limbs have a tendency to capture the ball (usually the line gets caught in some tough crotch bark....which is what happened). Ugh!
One thing I always laugh about is I spent the whole first part of my career (MRS) trying to isolate my system... I now do more SRT and more double bagging and now i actually want to redirect my forces around the tree but when I'm double bagging it naturally isolates the shot 🤦
@@ClimbingArborist Thanks I think most of my tree climbing adventures have been to rescue my throw bag from a snag. This looks like good insurance against that happening.
I never subscribe, but your videos have finally put me over the edge. You create the BEST instructional videos out there for our profession. They are to the point, well edited, and always allign with best practices. Thank you for making such great contributions to the community. I've been doing this over 20 years and can always learn something from you.
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Bro his are the best. Easy for me to understand thats easy'
Hi Dan. I'm a recreational climber. I have sometimes used a similar technique but with just one throw line and one weight. If I get my line over loads of branches, I remove the weight and reattach it to the middle of the throw line. Then I use a technique similar to yours, pulling the weight from both sides to guide it between branches on the way down. Best regards Stuart
I thought that you were going to teach me how to be less lame with my initial throw
Same here 😅
Same also haha. Over the head and into the neighbours yard, just calibrating to the weight mate 🙄🙄
You can easily be less lame with a bit of practice in the park. Getting pin point accuracy is very very hard, and this technique means you don't need the pin point accuracy
@@ClimbingArborist the ol game of throw bag golf
@@ClimbingArborist I've got a park one block from my house with big beautiful sycamore trees in it. I have no excuse
Great video Dan. Learn something new every day. I will try this.
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Thanks man, I needed to see that!!! I am one to always forget about this technique and pull out and rethrow. Great job portraying how it works!👍
Exactly the same with me 😄. I also think a split screen and a small drawing per hand could be helpful in this case of explanation. Thanks for the great video from good old Germany!
Glad it was a good reminder
Great tip and idea!! Thanks for the constant lessons!!
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Thank you for this Dan. Self taught here...and all this time...I never knew. I am deadly with a big shot because of it, but this is going to make life a lot easier. Thank you!
Very good vid showing the technique I’m sure this will help a lot of people 👍🏻
Hopefully it makes sense to those that aren't familiar with it
Excellent technique, Daniel. I'm not very accurate, but I can overthrow the area and work into a good tie-in.
This is great if you are able to throw up into the canopy, somewhere in the region and then work in a tie in without having to nail the exact shot.
Thanks Dan
Awesome video! Such a simple thing but so useful
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I actually watched the double bag system video b4 the original single rope & bag video. I'm alright with the throwlines but getting a friction saver over a crotch from the ground is more difficult. I'm usually climbing up there DRT & tie myself off right below the crotch & then install the friction saver. 😮
great video dan .
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I got lost at 4:15, I thought you just attached the 2nd throwline to the ball-end of the first, but then suddenly you’re pulling “both throwlines at once”….how did the 2nd throwline get up in the tree?
Sorry if I’m missing something obvious
3:45 the second line got connected. Then that clip you see at 4:15 was edited in too soon, so sorry for the confusion. The second line was first pulled up and over and then dropped back down 🤦🏻
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Was the second line connected to the first line? @@ClimbingArborist
Nice Brother 😁 thanks, as always, KEEP UR WIT'S ABOUT YOU!
Thanks, you too!
I got way better with a throwline.............with a Bigshot
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Use drone to get line up? Tie to larger line if need. Shrouded props to help navigate through limbs. Could be precision stuff. A $35 drone and monofilament (fishing line) could thread the needle for larger lines tied to it. Watched a surf fisher drop his line far out in the surf with a drone much further than he could have cast it.
You’ve obviously not tried your suggestion as a daily routine out in the workplace
@@ClimbingArborist I don't cut trees. Just had that thought.
Shortly after I begin trying to set throwline, my companion loses patience and climbs the tree by hand to set the line for me :)
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I'm starting to do more SRT this year. So instead of getting up into a lower union & advancing as I climb in an open MRS system I'm looking to get a throwbag up higher from the ground. Did u only have 2 bags between the 2 different lines u had up there & how long are your throwlines?😮
200ft Throwlines. Clip one line to the initial line
@@ClimbingArborist Gotcha, I deal with alot of busy co-dominants & I need to go from one side to the other. This method should help when I can't put it up in the union perfect. I've been leaving paracord up in crotches so when I'm ready to cut it helps with the process.
Dan, it would be easier for me to visualize the techniques, and their results, if you could make it a synchronized split-screen (left & right), so that we could see the correlation of your hand manipulation to a close-up view of the throw bags reaction. I suppose that there is no substitute for actually practising, but I can see myself getting frustrated quickly by having initial failure to get desired results. Anyway, ...just a thought.
Sorry
Could be an Olympic sport
Hmmm I couldn't see how throwball A was attached to throwball B. Close-up with "throwballs for dummies" approach.
'How to get good with a throwline'. Throwing it in the first try almost perfectly high in a tree.
Went to practice myself. After 6+ throws got my throwing bag stuck forever in the fork of a tree. 😅 Next time will try a bow with arrows instead. 😁
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TOO CONFUSING 😕. Please make a hand drawing diagram
it would need multiple drawings, and we can't draw
For me it depends on the humidity, moon phase , and many other factors to set a throw line. And even with an air cannon I still find my throwball several houses away. Anyhow thanks for the video lord knowsI need it.
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Wonderful!!
😂 same
Everytime I do some trees, I come back to see your next video, and just always seem to get another tip.
Go in a park and play around with it...
You're a genius this is a great help. Cover the rings with electric tape so they don't get stuck on nubins
Great tip 👍
Enjoyed the video. This technique does work for obtaining ideal target route for your climb line. However, You have to get your initial throw to come down to the ground before you can try this technique. I got a ball stuck way up in an oak yesterday on my third throw. No way could I get the ball to come down and couldn't even pull it out to try again. This happens....no way around it. So, hopefully you get a good throw in and your first throw ball comes to the ground. Then you can play around to get a better route up there if necessary. Thanks for posting this video.
This happened to me recently. Went back a few hours later and it was laying on the ground haha.
For getting the ball to come down, we'd generally say use a heavier ball if this happens often
Yesterday I was throwing a 16oz ball as I was working a multi stem oak and bark and spaghetti limbs have a tendency to capture the ball (usually the line gets caught in some tough crotch bark....which is what happened). Ugh!
One thing I always laugh about is I spent the whole first part of my career (MRS) trying to isolate my system... I now do more SRT and more double bagging and now i actually want to redirect my forces around the tree but when I'm double bagging it naturally isolates the shot 🤦
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So well done ! By choosing a really gnarled/dense tree, you were able to demonstrate the real advantage of this method.
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5:55 I reckon you'd make a decent bell ringer Dan 👍
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Could this change a base anchor type throw to an isolated branch alpine butterfly throw?
You can easily isolate using this technique
@@ClimbingArborist Is it necessary to use 2 throw bags. Could one throw bag work with two lines?
@@joeshmo5399 Its too much friction for just one throw bag. you need to have two.
@@ClimbingArborist Thanks I think most of my tree climbing adventures have been to rescue my throw bag from a snag. This looks like good insurance against that happening.
Fantastic tutorial Dan many thanks!
Glad it was helpful! 👍
I dig it thank you
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Always great teach
So nice of you