Zellhuber deserved to have a point taken for the eye poke. Herzog literally warned him 4 separate times about his fingers and then he eye pokes the guy. If that isn’t worth deducting a point then just legalize all fouls.
@@JPW328 and he’s being a straight up bad ref in these cases. If you warn someone even one time and then they do the thing you warned them about it should be instant points. Don’t care if someone loses a fight they are dominating because of points, even if it’s totally unintentional. Only mma has this issue with fouls and intent. If Lebron James rips a rebound down and violently swings his elbows in the process and clips someone in the head he’s getting a flagrant and ejected because he committed a foul and should have been in control of his body. Intent doesn’t matter. Only in mma do we have this issue of dudes routinely committing repeated fouls that impact fights with no punishment because both the rules and refs are straight garbage and too afraid to insert themselves in a fight. If fighters don’t want refs inserting themselves they need to be under control and not commit fouls
I get that ppl felt the co-main and main were boring but this isn’t kicking or video games. It’s MMA. Both challengers executed game plans that completely neutralized their opponents. If you’re competing in mma grappling is part of it. Valentina was also sniping Alexa in their stand up exchanges.
Yes but one is fighting the other is preventing a fight, Valentina proved this as how good is she on the feet? Better than Alexa but Alexa can crack so Valentina made sure that didn't happen by not fighting. Hamzat doesn't, DJ didn't, Aspinal definitely not, don't wrestle that way because they can fight, marab, aljo, mokiev, evluev get away with being 💩 and over achieve for the skills they posses by stopping a fight happening.
@@davidkershaw5379Grasso was really agressive and got valentina in nasty submissions. Valentina would have destroyed a less skilled fighter than grasso.
@@payneicecold3000 She was shooting for take downs because it worked. She dominated a bjj brown belt on the ground and dominated a Mexican boxer on the feet. All Grasso did was lay on her back and body lock the entire fight.
Why does it feel like I haven’t truly finished the weekend’s fights until I listen to both of you and your takes on all the action. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts!
Exactly my thought. She was robbed of her victory and no one is admitting it including big John. And then she was put into same matchup like mexican independence and I thought that judges will be biased again.
@@muzammilahsan2912Valentina didn’t want to fight this noche Mexican based card at all I knew she was gonna fight on point not super aggressive looking for a finish just win rounds, u must be a casual
@@ÉdouardBrasseurbro grasso won this fight the judges are corrupt Valentina didn’t do anything grasso caused all the damage she clearly won this fight, u must be a casual
The Diego Lopes throat thing he did when he fought Dan Ige to. Diego said that it’s a nervous tick from an old childhood injury where he got cut on his throat/adams apple area.
I'm not sure a big screen w video game graphics is a love letter to anything. Maybe a proper show w real performers blended between fights would be a much more authentic gesture. hell, even real performers on a screen is better than the cheesy history cartoon
@@brettd6951Thailand Russia or Dagestan hav never done nothing of importance in combat sports history to merit any sort of special event, u must be a casual
Crazy how you guys didn’t talk about how bad and unprepared Grasso was. How did she not know Valentina’s game plan after 2 fights. Her take down defense was nonexistent. She looked worse in this fight than the other 2.
Josh just wanted Alexa to win that’s why he didn’t like Valentina’s performance. Valentina improved her game at 36 years old. That’s amazing! She beat Alexa in every area of the fight. Teddy Atlas called it for Valentina & said she was the better striker. He was right
Ronaldo Rodriguez with one of the most impressive comebacks in UFC history. To get knocked out cold, and to escape the triangle choke was absolutely amazing
John, in the 80s up to 1994, I was lucky to have complimentary travel from Miami to London, and I scheduled trips just to see concerts at the Royal Albert Hall. That place has personality, something that the Sphere will never have. On the fighting part, I'm surprised that you guys didn't mention the commotion with O'Malley"s coach and Merab which included Herb Dean, and generally Herb's strange warnings that weren't addressed. Apparently O'Malley's coach did something similar by calling out instructions to the opposing fighter by name, which for a second throws off the fighter. I'm sure you know more than I do.
When you guys picked against Merab, as you usually do, I knew he'd win. You guys always say that Merab's opponent didn't look like themselves. Maybe they all look average against Merab
They usually bet on the underdog that has a good chance of winning. I wouldn’t have bet on this fight, especially if O’Malley was the favorite! I don’t bet though I think it ruins the fun of the fights 😅
It is soooo disrespectful of Shev and Merab to call their performances boring. They both put on a performance of dominant MMA on the level of GSP and Khabib. They made the Champs look normal, because they executed a near perfect MMA fight. Grasso's jits attack with a triangle and Kimora at the same time was amazing. Suga's last minute teep turned the fight upside-down and looked like he could win it. Like if you want a kickboxing match go watch that, this is MMA, sometimes it goes to the ground. This wasn't 2 HW blobs loafing on each other gassed AF. If Merab bores you, I question what you are looking for in an MMA fight.
Diego has a tick - he does it every single fight, from his debut. It amazes me people havnt noticed his. Every fight a commentator says i think hes been hit in the throat or something but no. Just like Dustin with the shorts, Diego has his throat scratch.
Exactly! Herb was acting very strange, from the start when O'Malley coach was messing with Merab, pushing the fighters as they were adjusting. It's not like they were avoiding contact and running away from each other.
@@dylanfox1925no it’s cus he’s been working for one championship lately and they always want action there and herb has so much more power with the yellow cards n shit over there he’s like screaming work! Work!! If u don’t boom yellow card!! U must be a casual
@meatrocket6979 this ain't one there the difference bud fucking yellow card 🙄 we not talking about the same thing be professional it's his job there is a difference fuck one fuck you 🤣 been watching longer than you been wiping your own ass kid the ref is there to stop a fight not make them fight what he want them to do just stand an swing he had money on it and he was crying like Sean work dammit I'm losing everything
I stopped watching this show because Josh is so dumb 😂 I love big John humble as they come smart guy, JT picked O’Malley by sub Big John should’ve put his LAPD uniform on an arrested him for even thinking that was a possibility and then his Valentina take omg God bless BIg John for sticking it out with this guy
UFC needs to implement strict stalling rules if they want to keep their fights from becoming super boring "lay and pray" matches like most Brazilian jiu-jitsu matches have become. Specifically, if you get a takedown and/or a control hold you have up to 30 seconds to either advance your position or do damage. And you have to be advancing to a sub if you're just grappling, not just switching from side to mount and back to side again. If you simply lay there and do nothing but hold on then the ref should stop them, stand it back up. This is why everyone loves fighters like Poatan. His fights are never boring. Good wrestling can really neutralize almost any opponent but just wrestling alone can make for a REALLY boring MMA fight.
Emmm... Mayb ur favourite fighter should train more on take down defence . I've seen fighter like Volk manage to force wrestler like Makachev to stand n strike.
Josh, dont be mad that your girl grasso didn't show up. She had the biggest stage ever and she froze. Val was the better striker and had the takedown whenever she wanted. Blame the judges from their last fight, no way was val going to give the judges any excuse to score the fight for grasso. She dominated every round, you sound very salty.
I know all the haters and casuals are going to be saying Merab’s flawless game plan was boring. Just like Belal’s game plan was boring. Both fought the perfect fight and put on a clinic. For those casuals that want to watch a slugfest go watch BKFC or Power Slap.
As a bricklayer im sure i know more about fighting than Josh thompson he goes on for five mins telling how he is giving us some inside scoop and he just literally states the obvious and spends to long doing it
It did look cool but after hearing Dana say they were never supposed to be there until MGM screwed them over, it kind of lost its special mystic. I think he should’ve kept that quiet. Ticket prices discounted almost 80% on fight week which is unprecedented. It felt like an event UFC just wanted done with. Allegedly UFC lost about 15 million to do the event. that’s why it’s a one and done.
To b fair to Val & Alexa, they r such a good match for each other in the sense of shutting each other down. Alexa being uber tough & always fighting hard off her back, never going away on the feet, constantly going for submissions, Val is unable to b as dominant as she usually is. It becomes a bit of a stalemate. Val ends up trying to secure the win wherever she can which can get a bit dull for spectators.
The Punk just likes Grasso, over here being disingenuous about Shev. It's not as if her thoughts & comments weren't shared by the mma community. For instance, that she was winning the 1st fight & up on the scorecards until she made a mistake, spinning & giving up her back then getting choked out. Also that she would have won the 2nd fight & her belt back had Mike Bell not scored R5 a 10-8 instead of a 10-9, for which he was benched for. There was nothing wrong with her pointing this out, just like many people did & to say u dislike her for it seems disingenuous.
Bro if ufc wants Sean to make some huge comeback they not gonna do that fight Cory will take Sean down over n over too like yan did plus Sean won’t do well against a guy as tall if not taller than him he’s always fought these short guys where he can use his length from the outside I always thought q Cory fight was a nightmare fight for him and never thought the ufc would allow their prize pupil fight someone like him, u must be a casual
Rodriguez v Osbourne - The right guy won the card but 2 of those judges gave Rodriguez 10-8 in the 2nd. Thats absolute insanity and corruption on that. No way in odin did that 2nd round even come remotely close to 10-8.
I had it 3-2 also, the score is close because its a flaw in the scoring. O’Malley won rounds 3 and 5 but they were super close. Every round Merab won was a dominant 10-9.
Lets fucking go! Amazing night of fights! I truly loved the whole event snd thought the sphere translated well to tv. Truly amazing. Yeah the last two fights were not the best. But overall. Just an amazing night
@@partridgepimp3363Dana did say they did like 4 rehearsals. Supposedly costed a million bucks each time! I’m sure the crowd made a difference but yeah the fighters knew what to expect for sure
I don’t see anyone talking about WHY is was such a late card. Riyahd season was the title sponsor and the main card aired in Saudi Arabia from 8am-11am Sunday morning.
Omalley coming out with his hood on was a big red flag. He walked out like he just came back to work from his lunch break, and found out his turtle died. He was super flat footed and seemed almost irritated.
So great remark Jeremy in the beginning about Shawn! When Shawn came out, I looked at his face and immediately said, "Uh oh, something is wrong, he looks like he has already lost? He looked very scared to me, maybe anxious. He definitely was not himself. I don't think it necessarily mattered but he came in looking like he new he was gonna lose! Did anyone else feel this way?
I am not a fan of Shawn BTW. I think merab is a super fun fighter to watch. However I believe Shawn new he was gonna lose. I think he new and couldn't shake it.
Diego Lopes needs to slow down now,taking too many fights in short notice,that probably affects his stamina.Now that he is on top,he should fight until next year and work on his holes and stamina.
Hey guys, great to watch you again (and great event review oc) Regarding Diego's It's a tic or post-trauma mania, due to Diego had experienced a near-death situation being a child, where he got a pointy stick or a pointy pole spiked on his neck He told it in an interview (after Ige) one reporter asked him and recalled the event for the people 33:00
I’ve been watching mma since pride before ufc bought then plus k-1 I’ve watched every subsequent organization since I watched josh beat giblert live I never really heard anyone being called a casual for having some stupid views I heard josh call people casual’s a couple years ago on this show now I’ve been hearing it everywhere and can’t stop calling people casual’s I just say it no matter what it’s kinda like a tick, u must be a casual
Gsp did the same thing late in his career to win.I didn't feel like Grasso did enough to force the situation and couldn't see Valentina should have won the second fight and she didn't let 3 slip away.
I do think Sean looked way different in walk out (lost vs in the moment) but I won't take away from Merab as his pace is crazy difficult to deal with. It's a tough fight for anyone.
I think the biggest thing i notice, is Sean O'Malley DOESNT HAVE An EFFECTIVE JAB. I never notice before but the majority of his attacks start with that cross leaving him over extended, and open for the takedown.
Bcuz of Vals win last night, it can no longer b said that there has been nobody at 155 or lighter to win a championship fight. Last night she became the first to ever do it...
My opinion on the card. It was a great card. The suga fight sucked because he looked shitty. Merab put in some work though. I didn’t find it a “snoozer”, but I didn’t find it boring or shitty at all. I ran to the store real quick after round 2 of the co main. It sounds like there were some good sub attempts, but a lot of the same. Overall though man there were some fucking fights on this card
Regarding Diego touching his throat, I think this started from the Dan I’ge fight. Dan punched him on the throat and ever since then he has been doing that. If you go back to the Dan fight you can see it
O’malley v Cejudo. Sean went on Cejudo’s podcast for the sole purpose of making him look bad and Cejudo interrupted a post fight interview with a reporter to call him out on a prior fight. They both don’t like each other
Diego did the same thing in his ige fight. Kept touching his throat they asked him about it and he said he wasn’t sure. In the post fight press conference when he fought ige
That throat touching that Diego does is some kind of habit that he has. He did it against Dan too. He for whatever reason touches his throat constantly. I think it’s just a habit for whatever reason. He didn’t get punched there on nothing. You will see the same thing in his previous fight against Dan. Something someone has to ask Diego.
Merab had to win 10 str8 fights, the who's who of the division, Umar has fought 1 person in the top 15.. Merab will not give him a title fight next, if he has any say so.
Sean also had no ranked wins he was literally put at #12 after a no contest for an eye poke in his first ranked fight then calls out yan and Ofcourse ufc gives him what he wants O’Malley clearly loses but ufc still gives him the win look at the merab fight he literally won all five rounds and 2 judges still gave Sean 2 rounds had 1 more round been a little closer Sean would hav won another split it’s not fair, u must be a casual
@@meatrocket6979 wtf does that book you wrote have to do with my post? MERAB said what I posted. Casual? how old are you 12? I was IN the cage 20 years ago.
The money of being a champ is not that much if you are boring. Merab was funny at first online, now is just like dealing with an annoying kid. Then when he fights his fights are boring. He won't make any money unless he fights guys like Sean, Henry. Merab and Umar wouldn't even sell 50k PPV so what money is he going to make? These are facts,not just my opinion. The UFC needs to implement knees to the face on a grounded fighter like One Championship does. They should probably add some rules of standing fighters if 1 minutes goes buy and you haven't done anything significantly the end your opponent. That might change some of the ridiculousness that we have seen lately in the UFC.
I bet a lot of the renovations to the apex end up more like the sphere inside. Dana said they had to spend a lot of money on installing the lighting/microphones/cameras in the sphere. I wonder if not having the normal lighting fixture goes away in the future
MAX didn't take the fight, not Chandler. (Because Max was on vacation.) Also, there's an interview with Megan talking about the neck thing with Lopes. Get your facts straight.
I don’t get how the co main was boring it was grappling heavy and had decent sub attempts. Gsp did what Val did so much and jones and usman just hold the position and burn the clock not the most entertaining but works
Like others have said, Lopez has done the throat thing every single fight. Ortega's problem is he only using his face as defense thats the only defense he has
“She got out grappled in the first fight. To the point where she got her back taken and lost the position and lost the fight”. 😒 No. That’s definitely not what happened.
Really surprised you guys never mentioned Grasso’s atrocious takedown defense. The ability to take Grasso down has been one major advantage for Shevchenko through the first two fights. Did she just not train takedown defense or what?
Bro shevchenko watched the Esparza fight a million times and thought that’s the way to get a guaranteed win grasso wrestling is terrible, u must be a casual
@@meatrocket6979 Why wouldn’t Shev attack Grasso at her weakness? I’m not a “casual.” I’m been watching MMA since Chuck Liddell was light heavyweight champion in the UFC.
O’Malley vs. Sandhagen now makes sense right?
Sean and Henry
@@dylanfox1925they not going to put Sean against another wrestler right away
I would love to see that fight. I am going with Cory.
@@dylanfox1925Henry might move back to 125. But ya I've been wanting to see Sean vs Cory for a while now
@@dylanfox1925no way that’s dum O’Malley vs gervontay tank Davis should be next come on this is a no brainer, u must be a casual
Zellhuber deserved to have a point taken for the eye poke. Herzog literally warned him 4 separate times about his fingers and then he eye pokes the guy. If that isn’t worth deducting a point then just legalize all fouls.
There was a fight earlier too where a guy got rocked bad and the guy who got rocked held the cage for probably 7 seconds keeping himself up lol.
Herzog rarely takes points
He needs to stop doing that asap , he did it so much even Jon Jones said it was excessive
@@JPW328 and he’s being a straight up bad ref in these cases. If you warn someone even one time and then they do the thing you warned them about it should be instant points. Don’t care if someone loses a fight they are dominating because of points, even if it’s totally unintentional. Only mma has this issue with fouls and intent. If Lebron James rips a rebound down and violently swings his elbows in the process and clips someone in the head he’s getting a flagrant and ejected because he committed a foul and should have been in control of his body. Intent doesn’t matter. Only in mma do we have this issue of dudes routinely committing repeated fouls that impact fights with no punishment because both the rules and refs are straight garbage and too afraid to insert themselves in a fight. If fighters don’t want refs inserting themselves they need to be under control and not commit fouls
@@mgschwartz Herzog is losing it for sure. He was much sharper a decade ago, when he only worked Bellator shows.
I get that ppl felt the co-main and main were boring but this isn’t kicking or video games. It’s MMA. Both challengers executed game plans that completely neutralized their opponents. If you’re competing in mma grappling is part of it. Valentina was also sniping Alexa in their stand up exchanges.
Yes but one is fighting the other is preventing a fight, Valentina proved this as how good is she on the feet? Better than Alexa but Alexa can crack so Valentina made sure that didn't happen by not fighting. Hamzat doesn't, DJ didn't, Aspinal definitely not, don't wrestle that way because they can fight, marab, aljo, mokiev, evluev get away with being 💩 and over achieve for the skills they posses by stopping a fight happening.
@davidkershaw5379 tell us you don't understand fighting without saying it 😂😂😂
Wtf ppl are saying its boring ? Im so tired of those "fans".
Thanks for the explanation, coach
@@davidkershaw5379Grasso was really agressive and got valentina in nasty submissions. Valentina would have destroyed a less skilled fighter than grasso.
Josh is trippin, Shevchenko was doing better in the stand up also. She is superior on the feet as well as the grappling.
No she wasn't, she was shooting for takedowns to prevent standing up with Grasso. Some of you don't know what you're talking about.
Agreed 👍
@@payneicecold3000 She was shooting for take downs because it worked. She dominated a bjj brown belt on the ground and dominated a Mexican boxer on the feet. All Grasso did was lay on her back and body lock the entire fight.
@@numerouno4168 Dominated on the ground 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 She laid on her for 5 rds
Crazyyyyy why they're hate'n on her.....
Like seems VERY personal 🤔
Why does it feel like I haven’t truly finished the weekend’s fights until I listen to both of you and your takes on all the action. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts!
Same
@@jordanenzie7314u must be a casual
Valentina didn’t want to take any chances especially since the scoring of the last fight. She was worried of biased judging.
Exactly my thought. She was robbed of her victory and no one is admitting it including big John. And then she was put into same matchup like mexican independence and I thought that judges will be biased again.
@@muzammilahsan2912that fight was close. Grasso won.
@@muzammilahsan2912Valentina didn’t want to fight this noche Mexican based card at all I knew she was gonna fight on point not super aggressive looking for a finish just win rounds, u must be a casual
@@ÉdouardBrasseurbro grasso won this fight the judges are corrupt Valentina didn’t do anything grasso caused all the damage she clearly won this fight, u must be a casual
@@meatrocket6979 lol u comment this everywhere who cares
The Diego Lopes throat thing he did when he fought Dan Ige to. Diego said that it’s a nervous tick from an old childhood injury where he got cut on his throat/adams apple area.
He's done it in every fight even in his debut. It's a tic
@@nme_mmano it’s not he’s just constantly getting injured there every fight u must be a casual
If you watch Moreno he does something similar.
Yes, it was pointed out by the commentators in the Ige fight.
@@meatrocket6979you must be 16
A love letter to brazil and japan would be epic with how important they have been to mma and combat sports
The brazilian people don't deserve it. Awful fans.
@@brettd6951 there is obviously a dozen countries they could do.
I'm not sure a big screen w video game graphics is a love letter to anything. Maybe a proper show w real performers blended between fights would be a much more authentic gesture. hell, even real performers on a screen is better than the cheesy history cartoon
@@brettd6951Thailand Russia or Dagestan hav never done nothing of importance in combat sports history to merit any sort of special event, u must be a casual
@@meatrocket6979 lululul dagestans Wrestling history alone shits on eveything u said yoj casual😂😂
Crazy how you guys didn’t talk about how bad and unprepared Grasso was. How did she not know Valentina’s game plan after 2 fights. Her take down defense was nonexistent. She looked worse in this fight than the other 2.
Josh just wanted Alexa to win that’s why he didn’t like Valentina’s performance. Valentina improved her game at 36 years old. That’s amazing! She beat Alexa in every area of the fight. Teddy Atlas called it for Valentina & said she was the better striker. He was right
Omalley got smoked badly
Ronaldo Rodriguez with one of the most impressive comebacks in UFC history. To get knocked out cold, and to escape the triangle choke was absolutely amazing
This is mma guys. Merab put on a clinic on sugarless Sean
Say what u want Sean’s the best bantamweight in history u must be a casual
@meatrocket6979 🤣😅🤣🤣😅 because I pointed the obvious, I must be casual?? 😆 🤣 bet and won cash 💸 💰 exactly as predicted also. Not so bad as casual l😆
@@clarkkent2220how much did you bet baller?
Not mutually exclusive. Can be MMA and boring
John, in the 80s up to 1994, I was lucky to have complimentary travel from Miami to London, and I scheduled trips just to see concerts at the Royal Albert Hall. That place has personality, something that the Sphere will never have. On the fighting part, I'm surprised that you guys didn't mention the commotion with O'Malley"s coach and Merab which included Herb Dean, and generally Herb's strange warnings that weren't addressed. Apparently O'Malley's coach did something similar by calling out instructions to the opposing fighter by name, which for a second throws off the fighter. I'm sure you know more than I do.
You guys barely talked about Merab fight?! No mention of the rules coaching another fighter? I expected Big John to explain this 😢
And Herb Dean
Same !
When you guys picked against Merab, as you usually do, I knew he'd win. You guys always say that Merab's opponent didn't look like themselves. Maybe they all look average against Merab
They usually bet on the underdog that has a good chance of winning. I wouldn’t have bet on this fight, especially if O’Malley was the favorite! I don’t bet though I think it ruins the fun of the fights 😅
Love the Pod
Diego Lopez tick is from a childhood accident on his throat he had as a child he talked about it after the ige fight
Diego Lopes just went from #13 to #3 and is on a 5 fight winning streak in probably the hardest division ever. Give that man a title shot
that division isn’t that good right now..
It is soooo disrespectful of Shev and Merab to call their performances boring. They both put on a performance of dominant MMA on the level of GSP and Khabib. They made the Champs look normal, because they executed a near perfect MMA fight. Grasso's jits attack with a triangle and Kimora at the same time was amazing. Suga's last minute teep turned the fight upside-down and looked like he could win it. Like if you want a kickboxing match go watch that, this is MMA, sometimes it goes to the ground. This wasn't 2 HW blobs loafing on each other gassed AF. If Merab bores you, I question what you are looking for in an MMA fight.
Justin literally said charles hit him harder than anyone ever. But josh says he has no power. Smh lollll
Nobody else thinks that.
@@gordonschiff3621I say that, u must be a casual
14:52 Merab vs O’Rousey
Did Josh want grasso to win??😂😂😂 soooooo salty!!!!
Really. How do you lose respect for Valentina?
@@numerouno4168how can she dominated the fight easily, u must be a casual
@@meatrocket6979 Use grammar so people can understand your posts.
I thought Valentina won the second fight cause now way Grasso deserved a 10-8 round 5
Sean looked bad. No feints, no movement.
Diego has a tick - he does it every single fight, from his debut. It amazes me people havnt noticed his. Every fight a commentator says i think hes been hit in the throat or something but no. Just like Dustin with the shorts, Diego has his throat scratch.
How about Merab kissing sugas neck 😂
Had that one judge not given grasso a 10-8 round in the second fight, this third one would have never happened
Josh crying about shevchenko wrestling to a win. Yet….will suck off any dagestani wrestling as domination. Foh
What was up with herb saying work when he was ontop landing little punches working the ground game
He had money on Sean 😂
Exactly! Herb was acting very strange, from the start when O'Malley coach was messing with Merab, pushing the fighters as they were adjusting. It's not like they were avoiding contact and running away from each other.
@@dylanfox1925no it’s cus he’s been working for one championship lately and they always want action there and herb has so much more power with the yellow cards n shit over there he’s like screaming work! Work!! If u don’t boom yellow card!! U must be a casual
@meatrocket6979 this ain't one there the difference bud fucking yellow card 🙄 we not talking about the same thing be professional it's his job there is a difference fuck one fuck you 🤣 been watching longer than you been wiping your own ass kid the ref is there to stop a fight not make them fight what he want them to do just stand an swing he had money on it and he was crying like Sean work dammit I'm losing everything
@@meatrocket6979it’s MMA being ontop of someone is a dominant position. I believe there shouldn’t ever be stand up’s. You want up?? Get yourself up
So glad to see Omalley out the door!!!
I stopped watching this show because Josh is so dumb 😂 I love big John humble as they come smart guy, JT picked O’Malley by sub Big John should’ve put his LAPD uniform on an arrested him for even thinking that was a possibility and then his Valentina take omg God bless BIg John for sticking it out with this guy
if u don’t like it don’t watch MMA go watch boxing casuals
UFC needs to implement strict stalling rules if they want to keep their fights from becoming super boring "lay and pray" matches like most Brazilian jiu-jitsu matches have become. Specifically, if you get a takedown and/or a control hold you have up to 30 seconds to either advance your position or do damage. And you have to be advancing to a sub if you're just grappling, not just switching from side to mount and back to side again. If you simply lay there and do nothing but hold on then the ref should stop them, stand it back up.
This is why everyone loves fighters like Poatan. His fights are never boring.
Good wrestling can really neutralize almost any opponent but just wrestling alone can make for a REALLY boring MMA fight.
Emmm... Mayb ur favourite fighter should train more on take down defence . I've seen fighter like Volk manage to force wrestler like Makachev to stand n strike.
You are both AMAZING, especially together. I wish you continued success!
I cant believe how much Josh loves Chandler, just hide your infatuation with him, man
Josh, dont be mad that your girl grasso didn't show up. She had the biggest stage ever and she froze. Val was the better striker and had the takedown whenever she wanted. Blame the judges from their last fight, no way was val going to give the judges any excuse to score the fight for grasso. She dominated every round, you sound very salty.
Josh came off as a little girl in this one.
Bellator Champion Series Co-main and main event were really awesome
JOSH " THE GIMP " THOMPSON 😂
I know all the haters and casuals are going to be saying Merab’s flawless game plan was boring. Just like Belal’s game plan was boring. Both fought the perfect fight and put on a clinic. For those casuals that want to watch a slugfest go watch BKFC or Power Slap.
100%
Your right bout merabs fight but the other fight was the wrong call
@@monteolson4737 what fight
That's you as a zealot, but The UFC as a business does not agree. They don't want a niche sport that only zealots like you enjoy.
BKFC is growing. It'd be funny if it seriously challenges The UFC
As a bricklayer im sure i know more about fighting than Josh thompson he goes on for five mins telling how he is giving us some inside scoop and he just literally states the obvious and spends to long doing it
Sarcasm
Sphere was awesome. Looked cool on tv as well.
It did look cool but after hearing Dana say they were never supposed to be there until MGM screwed them over, it kind of lost its special mystic. I think he should’ve kept that quiet. Ticket prices discounted almost 80% on fight week which is unprecedented. It felt like an event UFC just wanted done with. Allegedly UFC lost about 15 million to do the event. that’s why it’s a one and done.
To b fair to Val & Alexa, they r such a good match for each other in the sense of shutting each other down. Alexa being uber tough & always fighting hard off her back, never going away on the feet, constantly going for submissions, Val is unable to b as dominant as she usually is. It becomes a bit of a stalemate. Val ends up trying to secure the win wherever she can which can get a bit dull for spectators.
Everyone send me five bucks so we can cover Josh's betting loss (250 on Sugar). How
much is 5 into 250.
The Punk just likes Grasso, over here being disingenuous about Shev. It's not as if her thoughts & comments weren't shared by the mma community. For instance, that she was winning the 1st fight & up on the scorecards until she made a mistake, spinning & giving up her back then getting choked out. Also that she would have won the 2nd fight & her belt back had Mike Bell not scored R5 a 10-8 instead of a 10-9, for which he was benched for. There was nothing wrong with her pointing this out, just like many people did & to say u dislike her for it seems disingenuous.
Herb Dean is an awful ref.
Corey vs Sean O Malley is the fight I’d love to see in December or Jan
Bro if ufc wants Sean to make some huge comeback they not gonna do that fight Cory will take Sean down over n over too like yan did plus Sean won’t do well against a guy as tall if not taller than him he’s always fought these short guys where he can use his length from the outside I always thought q Cory fight was a nightmare fight for him and never thought the ufc would allow their prize pupil fight someone like him, u must be a casual
Awww yeahhh. My favorite MMA podcast! Best on YT!!
Everyone was walking out there for the fiest time tbf.
Facts
Rodriguez v Osbourne - The right guy won the card but 2 of those judges gave Rodriguez 10-8 in the 2nd. Thats absolute insanity and corruption on that. No way in odin did that 2nd round even come remotely close to 10-8.
You’re right it wasn’t a 10-8 it actually should’ve been a 10-7 that’s the more accurate score, u must be a casual
The internet is crying today
I had it 3-2 also, the score is close because its a flaw in the scoring. O’Malley won rounds 3 and 5 but they were super close. Every round Merab won was a dominant 10-9.
Lets fucking go! Amazing night of fights! I truly loved the whole event snd thought the sphere translated well to tv.
Truly amazing.
Yeah the last two fights were not the best. But overall. Just an amazing night
No it wasnt
@@brandenbrown6011 to each their own. I enjoyed it and sorry you didn't 🤷
Dude a hater that was dope the screen stole the show like he said it would
@@dylanfox1925no it didn’t shevchenko grasso stole the show, u must be a casual
@6:25 awww already making excused for Sean lMao 😂 now it’s his walkout… it’s OK YOU WERE WRONG
He knew what he was walking into is why he looked like that
@@partridgepimp3363the vibe I got was Sean was trying to take it all in. I didn’t get a nervous vibe from him at all.
@@partridgepimp3363Dana did say they did like 4 rehearsals. Supposedly costed a million bucks each time! I’m sure the crowd made a difference but yeah the fighters knew what to expect for sure
Was expecting to hear Big Jon’s take on Herb Deans performance in the main!
I don’t see anyone talking about WHY is was such a late card. Riyahd season was the title sponsor and the main card aired in Saudi Arabia from 8am-11am Sunday morning.
RE: Schevchenko - Josh is forgetting she ended up 4 rounds in dominant position (3 back takes, 1 crucifix).
Honestly, it just sucks that so many "fans" will just move on with 0 appreciation for how coo of an experience that whole show was
Omalley coming out with his hood on was a big red flag. He walked out like he just came back to work from his lunch break, and found out his turtle died. He was super flat footed and seemed almost irritated.
So great remark Jeremy in the beginning about Shawn! When Shawn came out, I looked at his face and immediately said, "Uh oh, something is wrong, he looks like he has already lost? He looked very scared to me, maybe anxious. He definitely was not himself. I don't think it necessarily mattered but he came in looking like he new he was gonna lose! Did anyone else feel this way?
I am not a fan of Shawn BTW. I think merab is a super fun fighter to watch. However I believe Shawn new he was gonna lose. I think he new and couldn't shake it.
Diego Lopes needs to slow down now,taking too many fights in short notice,that probably affects his stamina.Now that he is on top,he should fight until next year and work on his holes and stamina.
Best mma podcast!
Hey guys, great to watch you again (and great event review oc)
Regarding Diego's
It's a tic or post-trauma mania, due to Diego had experienced a near-death situation being a child, where he got a pointy stick or a pointy pole spiked on his neck
He told it in an interview (after Ige) one reporter asked him and recalled the event for the people
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I’ve been watching mma since pride before ufc bought then plus k-1 I’ve watched every subsequent organization since I watched josh beat giblert live I never really heard anyone being called a casual for having some stupid views I heard josh call people casual’s a couple years ago on this show now I’ve been hearing it everywhere and can’t stop calling people casual’s I just say it no matter what it’s kinda like a tick, u must be a casual
😂😂😂
@@hybrid.catastrophic.impact6071 bro it’s not that funny stop making fun of me, u must be a casual
@@meatrocket6979 Not making fun of you, you must be a casual
@@hybrid.catastrophic.impact6071 bro I could tell by The tone of your font that u were making fun of me u must be a casual
@@meatrocket6979 No I'm not making fun of you bro. Come on man, I was legitimately laughing at the whole calling people casual thing. 😆
Gsp did the same thing late in his career to win.I didn't feel like Grasso did enough to force the situation and couldn't see Valentina should have won the second fight and she didn't let 3 slip away.
20:42 Big John tries to show off he knows big legal terms "voir dire" but he doesn't know how to pronounce it. 🤣
I do think Sean looked way different in walk out (lost vs in the moment) but I won't take away from Merab as his pace is crazy difficult to deal with. It's a tough fight for anyone.
Watch Lopes's other fights he touches his throat often.
Its a tick. You can see lopez do the same thing in his fight vs Ige
They talked about it in one interview, projecting the whole fight on the screen was distracting and didnt translate well over TV.
Umar vs yan
I think the biggest thing i notice, is Sean O'Malley DOESNT HAVE An EFFECTIVE JAB. I never notice before but the majority of his attacks start with that cross leaving him over extended, and open for the takedown.
Bcuz of Vals win last night, it can no longer b said that there has been nobody at 155 or lighter to win a championship fight. Last night she became the first to ever do it...
My opinion on the card. It was a great card. The suga fight sucked because he looked shitty. Merab put in some work though. I didn’t find it a “snoozer”, but I didn’t find it boring or shitty at all. I ran to the store real quick after round 2 of the co main. It sounds like there were some good sub attempts, but a lot of the same. Overall though man there were some fucking fights on this card
Regarding Diego touching his throat, I think this started from the Dan I’ge fight. Dan punched him on the throat and ever since then he has been doing that. If you go back to the Dan fight you can see it
Diego got cut by rebar when young and the scar gets itchy when he sweats. Per his manager on the Anik and Florian podcast
Diego has touched his throat in the last 3 fights for sure i seen it again in the ufc 300 card and dan ige
Sphere money should have gone to reall fights
Such as?
O’malley v Cejudo. Sean went on Cejudo’s podcast for the sole purpose of making him look bad and Cejudo interrupted a post fight interview with a reporter to call him out on a prior fight. They both don’t like each other
And I think it can headline
Great to hear from you guys this morning!!! I only cared about the last 2 UFC fights and split on the result I wanted. Oh well...
Diego did the same thing in his ige fight. Kept touching his throat they asked him about it and he said he wasn’t sure. In the post fight press conference when he fought ige
That throat touching that Diego does is some kind of habit that he has. He did it against Dan too. He for whatever reason touches his throat constantly. I think it’s just a habit for whatever reason. He didn’t get punched there on nothing. You will see the same thing in his previous fight against Dan. Something someone has to ask Diego.
48-47 in the main event is INSANITY.
Merab dominated.
Merab had to win 10 str8 fights, the who's who of the division, Umar has fought 1 person in the top 15.. Merab will not give him a title fight next, if he has any say so.
Sean also had no ranked wins he was literally put at #12 after a no contest for an eye poke in his first ranked fight then calls out yan and Ofcourse ufc gives him what he wants O’Malley clearly loses but ufc still gives him the win look at the merab fight he literally won all five rounds and 2 judges still gave Sean 2 rounds had 1 more round been a little closer Sean would hav won another split it’s not fair, u must be a casual
@@meatrocket6979 wtf does that book you wrote have to do with my post? MERAB said what I posted. Casual? how old are you 12? I was IN the cage 20 years ago.
The money of being a champ is not that much if you are boring. Merab was funny at first online, now is just like dealing with an annoying kid. Then when he fights his fights are boring. He won't make any money unless he fights guys like Sean, Henry. Merab and Umar wouldn't even sell 50k PPV so what money is he going to make? These are facts,not just my opinion. The UFC needs to implement knees to the face on a grounded fighter like One Championship does. They should probably add some rules of standing fighters if 1 minutes goes buy and you haven't done anything significantly the end your opponent. That might change some of the ridiculousness that we have seen lately in the UFC.
I bet a lot of the renovations to the apex end up more like the sphere inside. Dana said they had to spend a lot of money on installing the lighting/microphones/cameras in the sphere. I wonder if not having the normal lighting fixture goes away in the future
MAX didn't take the fight, not Chandler. (Because Max was on vacation.) Also, there's an interview with Megan talking about the neck thing with Lopes. Get your facts straight.
any mention on how herb dean conducted himself?
I don’t get how the co main was boring it was grappling heavy and had decent sub attempts. Gsp did what Val did so much and jones and usman just hold the position and burn the clock not the most entertaining but works
Lopez was punched in the neck by IGE ! At the end of the fist round you can hear Herzog saying it to the corner 😉
Stfu take your bullshit elsewhere
The throat touch is a tick. He said it after the Dan fight. He said it in the post fight,.
Good for Merab, he did it.Maybe Sean should have watched more film.
Like others have said, Lopez has done the throat thing every single fight.
Ortega's problem is he only using his face as defense thats the only defense he has
“It was boring” yes it was. Just like every Merab fight
You pick sean because you are subjective.
Merab didnt allow sean to get into rhythm,thats why he looked so flat,merab drained suga so quick,suga didnt have the energy to throw a hard punch.
I feel bad the main and co main didn't live up to expectations, sick venue tho.
“She got out grappled in the first fight. To the point where she got her back taken and lost the position and lost the fight”. 😒 No. That’s definitely not what happened.
Merab kissing O'Malley 💋 😂 No Diddy
Really surprised you guys never mentioned Grasso’s atrocious takedown defense. The ability to take Grasso down has been one major advantage for Shevchenko through the first two fights. Did she just not train takedown defense or what?
Bro shevchenko watched the Esparza fight a million times and thought that’s the way to get a guaranteed win grasso wrestling is terrible, u must be a casual
@@meatrocket6979 Why wouldn’t Shev attack Grasso at her weakness? I’m not a “casual.” I’m been watching MMA since Chuck Liddell was light heavyweight champion in the UFC.
John thinking with the wrong head on that Grasso fight
It’s like these guys have never seen Diego. Or Valentina fight 😅