100% it was. Fury arguably won round 1 and 5. I struggle to give him more rounds than that. Some close rounds like 3,4 that could go either way in my opinion. But after scoring the fight twice I think 10-2 or 9-3 is the actual score.
To directly answer the question I can't make the case for a Tyson win. Problem - in part- is to be the champ you have to demonstrably beat the champ. Secondly, in a David v Goliath fight it's hard to cheer for Goliath 😂
Fury said usyk isn't the best opponent he's faced the man's living in the past, he needs to consider retirement, he holds back too much when his opponent is backing up.
Everyone’s under the Fury’s bullshit spell and he gets away with murder . What happened to finishing Usyk’s career and putting him in the hurt locker ?? More nonsense from Fury with his beard and how he was allowed his ridiculously high shorts I’ve no idea as they were clearly at least 5 inches too high . He did nothing to impose himself against the “middleweight “ and Frank Warren claiming 3 or 4 rounds victory was insane…..so he gave Usyk only 4 rounds?!?! 🤯
As I said before I think Fury has to play the part - he has to shout and scream in order to maintain his market value and mystique - 'no man of woman born' and all that cobblers. He needs to gull the fanboys and an already biased media hungry for any controversy and hint of scandal. But he is a very, very fine boxer, an intelligent fighter,and, yes, a genuine fighting man. And when he's alone in the night, and there's no one to perform and parade to then I fully believe in his heart of hearts he knows that Usyk is simply the better fighter. Fury couldn't outbox him, and he couldn't bulk up and bully him. He will know that if they fight ten times then Usyk will most likely win all of them, maybe 9 times or at a stretch 8 as people have injuries and bad days. Usyk is just better.
There is a bias for Fury in this country , but people are sick of his BS , he said he never spoke to his wife for 3 months Then Tommy Fury let the cat out of the bag & said him & Tyson were texting back & forth during his camp , what but he didn't text hi wife ?
Personally, i loved the ai judge being in operation. I think it held the judges accountable for there scorecards. I honestly believe without the ai judge they'd have jobbed usyk on the cards
I absolutely agree joe. I watched it back to see where the outrage was coming from and...I couldn't. I tried to watch it from the perspective of a mega fury fan and still couldn't give him the win 😂 Surprised me Eddie hearn insists tyson won but not so much Oscar de la hoya as he's still on the powder. If the great GAD can't score it for fury..then you know usyk won
this was an interesting video, I think one of the biggest issues in boxing is you have judges and fans that for some strange reason refuse to give 10-10, the fact is we get rounds that are difficult to score where there is not a lot in it at times, if we score more 10-10 rounds , then the fighters that win the clear rounds get more recognition, and we will see a more accurate depiction on who wins a fight, because we get guys like Lomachenko losing to Haney because Haney nicked more close rounds that should have been 10-10 rounds even though Loma won more clear rounds in the fight, the same thing goes for the Fury v Ngannou fight, I think we need to change the scoring system in boxing, I have an idea how we should do it but I dont want to make this comment even longer
I did the same thing for Taylor v Catterall 1 giving everything I could to Taylor. I still had Jack winning by a couple of rounds (I haven’t kept the scorecard so can’t post it).
There's no case for Fury winning. Just like there was no case for him winning the first time around against Usyk. I think the scorecards are a shock because people are finally seeing what scorecards for a non-A side Fury who isn't getting biased judging in his favor looks like. Remember, in the first fight to get a win on just one of the cards to make it a split, Craig "I took a fat envelope under the table" Metcalfe had to give Fury BOTH the 11th and 12th round. Just like when Glen Feldman gave BOTH the 11th and 12th round to AJ in his rematch with Usyk. In no way did either of those guys beat Usyk in both those rounds. It's absurdity. Tyson Fury is a loser. Frank Warren is a loser. Not because they lost a boxing match against Oleksandr Usyk. There's no shame in losing a competitive fight to a man who is going to go down as an all-time great. They're losers because they have been completely ungracious in defeat. Shake the man's hand, tell him good job, admit he was the better man on the night, and if you really "have the minerals" as Brits like to say, work to better yourself and come back stronger. Warren, in particular, needs to be put in his place. This man tries undermining Usyk's performances at every turn. Remember, he pushed the narrative that Usyk cheated against Dubois. That even though according to him Dubois landed a god-tier, legal punch on Usyk, that Usyk somehow also faked it and milked it to try and get Dubois disqualified. He also pushed Don Charles to go around calling Usyk a fake Christian. Just absolute vile stuff. We all understand he's going to back his fighters, but that kind of crap is just beyond the pale.
I cannot stant the term " hater " i've never hated , i do however dislike gaslighting, lying , disrespectful , unsporting aholes. Fury , his team and management do not deserver what comes with being a world champion . Respect , honour , acclaim and a place in the Hall Of Fame. Be gone with them . I'm certain Usyk is glad of the freedom from Fury. End of story for me
I fully agree. The last fight should of been an 8-4 but I thought this one was closer. A split would of been more appropriate this time but it evened itself out. Usyk won both
hey Joe - i scored live 116-112 for Usyk but in the back of my mind i thought they might job him and made notes of any round that could have gone to Fury and live i had 1,2,4,5,9,12 and i guess 3 was close on reflection - so i'd be willing at a stretch to go one further than you joe and give him 6 with my Tyson goggles on but that being said if ya go the other way and be biased for Usyk give him 1,2,3, Fury gets 4,5 and the rest is Usyk so thats how the AI got to 118-110 i assume which is as plausible as Fury winning 7 rounds to be fair -
Tbh, Joe if they were both a bit younger then maybe but just maybe. At their present ages though I'd say no - Usyk has nothing to prove and Fury needs to establish who was the best British HW of their time by meeting AJ. Cheers, Bob
You missed the point of the video. It wasn't about if there should be a 3rd fight, but instead trying to score the fight as much as possible to tyson and seeing what score joe ended up with
He had 2 chances..n nobody cares what Flabs thinks ,he can take whatever he likes to the grave.robbing usyk would guarantee a trilogy n would benefit turki n turki wanted a trilogy..robbing Flabs,benefits who exactly? This is idiot deontay behavior which we trashed n consistency obligates us to trash flabs' reaction too.apart from flabs' mental state and his deluded fanboys a third fight is not needed by anybody else.a third fight just holds up the div again n we have moved on from those days..give sm1 else a chance.too bad if flabs is throwing a tantrum..its time he grew up.
So the way you've put Joe..uysk was the one pushing uysk landing more punches 👊..only one winner uysk come on we all know uysk is just unbelievable well done both men you both done a great job...
I thought Usyk won and wasn't surprised by the cards, but I think there is a way to score for Fury. On first watch I had 1 3 5 9 12 to Fury, and 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 11 to Usyk, and 10 I didn't score because I didn't have a clear opinion on first watch. So that's either 7-5 Usyk or 6-6 draw, depending on how you go with round 10. 2 and 4 were pretty close, and Fury did have some good work in those rounds, so if you shift one or both of those to Fury you could get a Fury win. The first fight was like this too I thought. You could get to a Fury win by like a point if you gave him all the swing rounds, but the thing is, most people are just not going to score it that way, and most fans aren't going to see the fight that way. If you have to fall a certain way on the swing rounds to get one guy the win, most people (and most scorecards) are going to think the other guy won.
The AI seemed (on the basis of this fight only) to be judging ONLY based on who landed the most punches.Which, while vitally important, should not be used as the sole criterion when judging professional boxing. The AI, I'm sure, will get much better very soon.
@@johnmartin7158 Sure, but in professional boxing who inflicts the most damage is more important than mere punches landed. In other words 4 hard punches > 5 pitty pat punches.
no, please! (haven't watched your vid yet Joe so reacting to your title!!) ... case friggin' dismissed. Fury should do us a favour & go and hide under whatever rock John Fury has been hiding under.
Why would Tyson want a rematch? Tyson has already said he won the first fight, and easily won the second fight. Tyson is therefore still unbeaten and undisputed. Makes no sense for a rematch. Happy new year.
I don't t like giving 10-10 rounds either but if you cannot give a distinct win to one fighter over another then its the only sensible way to go. Its most unfair if you give the round to one man when they haven't truly deserved it. Like the AI judge I gave the 1st a 10-10 and I felt the 12th was rightly a draw too, i just edged it to Fury simply because Id hardly given him anything else for several rounds.
David vs Goliath = UKR vs Putin. A.Usyk is the only HW since M. Ali who could be bigger than the sport itself. A God fearing family man bringing the eyes of the world upon centuries of Russian genocide. Slava Ukraini!.
Noooooo fury lost easily even though I'm a brit I 100% can see usyk won by atleast 3 rounds. Fury is delusional and his team are his enablers because they are to afraid to tell him the truth. If I was on his team I would keep it 100 and tell him you clearly lost
I've watch the fight back three times now just in case I might have missed something, and I just cannot give fury anymore than rounds 3,5,9 and 10 unless I pretend to be a fury fan and become deluded myself. Plus I dont think the interest would be their as much for a third fight.
I scored it was 116-112 for Usyk.. Fury has good work at times but Usyk just too good. Fury can still go on and batter AJ, Dubois I believe he’s clearly a few leagues above them.
Don’t know what had happened to Fury recently mate! After wilder fights he went down south! May be age is the factor or something else! AJ is waiting for you Fury if you still want to make more Dinero$$
So many hating Fury. Its a bit sad. Hes just a boxer. No need for a rematch. If Fury beats a couple of good challengers and Usyk is still champ then sure , why not. I thought it was a close fight. Fury is a very good fighter and people seem to want him to go away. I find that a shame.
Fury's ego cant handle the loss. But deep down he knows...and that will hurt him far more than the punches. Big John once again has gone missing. Lets hope he stays gone. in no way can Fury be seen to have won either fight. Close yes, but a controversial decision? No.
If 24% of Fury's punches landed (Compubox), I'd say about 45% hit the guard of Usyk (gloves, forearms, elbows) and the rest missed; that's the difference. Is that the Fury stable style? Re: Peter Fury? Hughie Fury? Magic or misdirection; Tyson P.Daniels Fury, the greatest [gobshite] of all time! Rest In Pieces...
1. usyk's the champ. fury has to take the belt. and he fought a defensive fight. it was usyk being aggressive . 2. all fury did was what he normaly does sit back and wait to counter 3. on the inside he just grabbed. Turki should make a mandatory Joe Parker vS Tyson Fury for the winner to get Usyk again.
Tyson lost both times time to move on. I can't make a case for tyson because he wasn't hitting Uysk cleaning while he was getting hit cleaning on the body then head
The fact u called the first round for usyk says it all. Fury won the first round easy!!!! Fury won the fight unless your counting the tip tap shots from usyk on fury’s arms!
There's not much more I could add to be honest. I would absolutely struggle to give Fury anything more than 4 rounds in their second fight, I think 3 rounds for Fury is the most I could give him, I'd be generous to give him a 4th & even then that'd play on my mind. Slightly off topic, but I find Team Fury's reactions & views quite fascinating, albeit completely idiotic. This is what happens when people surround themselves with others who blow smoke up their a***s & tell them what they want to hear, this is one of the problems with Fury, he needs that as motivation & when he accepted that it was always going to be a matter of time before he reacted the way he has. I've heard Usyk state on several occasions that his team don't dish out compliments towards him, but are hard on him. He also said in an interview a day or so ago, after the Usyk Vs. Fury 2 fight, when he was starting out he was very arrogant, he could do this and that, but when he got associated with his team they quickly got that out of him & kept him down to earth. Soon after in the same interview, he got asked if he was an all time great (or words to that affect), he simply more or less said, I don't think about that, I'm just a Boxer. Polar opposite mentalities, also very fascinating. Fury has that much smoke blowed up him he could identify as a chimney with a preferred pronoun of, brick. Sorry for the off topic part, but it'd be interesting to hear your views on that aspect, Joe. All the best, Joe.
I scored it was 116-112 for Usyk.. Fury has good work at times but Usyk just too good. Fury can still go on and batter AJ, Dubois I believe he’s clearly a few leagues above them.
Fury and Warren...DELUDED! Well done Usyk
No way, absolutely no point in a trilogy.
I think the true score more than likely is 117-111. Or the AI score of 118-112.
100% it was. Fury arguably won round 1 and 5. I struggle to give him more rounds than that. Some close rounds like 3,4 that could go either way in my opinion. But after scoring the fight twice I think 10-2 or 9-3 is the actual score.
@ Merry Xmas to you. Cheers from NZ.
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New to the channel, enjoying the talk. When you want something so bad, it’s hard to accept defeat!
Great commentary Joe, Happy Christmas.
Same to you.
Fury doing the 'am still the greatest' of this gen is a charade for his media deals and sponsorships he has left.
To directly answer the question I can't make the case for a Tyson win. Problem - in part- is to be the champ you have to demonstrably beat the champ. Secondly, in a David v Goliath fight it's hard to cheer for Goliath 😂
Good comment. People seem to of forgotten that you have to comprehensively defeat a champion to take his belt or belts
Fury said usyk isn't the best opponent he's faced the man's living in the past, he needs to consider retirement, he holds back too much when his opponent is backing up.
Everyone’s under the Fury’s bullshit spell and he gets away with murder . What happened to finishing Usyk’s career and putting him in the hurt locker ?? More nonsense from Fury with his beard and how he was allowed his ridiculously high shorts I’ve no idea as they were clearly at least 5 inches too high . He did nothing to impose himself against the “middleweight “ and Frank Warren claiming 3 or 4 rounds victory was insane…..so he gave Usyk only 4 rounds?!?! 🤯
As I said before I think Fury has to play the part - he has to shout and scream in order to maintain his market value and mystique - 'no man of woman born' and all that cobblers. He needs to gull the fanboys and an already biased media hungry for any controversy and hint of scandal.
But he is a very, very fine boxer, an intelligent fighter,and, yes, a genuine fighting man. And when he's alone in the night, and there's no one to perform and parade to then I fully believe in his heart of hearts he knows that Usyk is simply the better fighter. Fury couldn't outbox him, and he couldn't bulk up and bully him. He will know that if they fight ten times then Usyk will most likely win all of them, maybe 9 times or at a stretch 8 as people have injuries and bad days.
Usyk is just better.
There is a bias for Fury in this country , but people are sick of his BS , he said he never spoke to his wife for 3 months Then Tommy Fury let the cat out of the bag & said him & Tyson were texting back & forth during his camp , what but he didn't text hi wife ?
Frank Warren is probably still wandering around with that scorecard in his hand even now
Personally, i loved the ai judge being in operation. I think it held the judges accountable for there scorecards. I honestly believe without the ai judge they'd have jobbed usyk on the cards
I absolutely agree joe. I watched it back to see where the outrage was coming from and...I couldn't. I tried to watch it from the perspective of a mega fury fan and still couldn't give him the win 😂
Surprised me Eddie hearn insists tyson won but not so much Oscar de la hoya as he's still on the powder.
If the great GAD can't score it for fury..then you know usyk won
Oscar said usyk won lol frank was lying
@@jacobg1188Thanks, I might of guessed Frank was lying
If Tyson thinks that was a robbery then he needs to have a chat with Dave Allen
this was an interesting video, I think one of the biggest issues in boxing is you have judges and fans that for some strange reason refuse to give 10-10, the fact is we get rounds that are difficult to score where there is not a lot in it at times, if we score more 10-10 rounds , then the fighters that win the clear rounds get more recognition, and we will see a more accurate depiction on who wins a fight, because we get guys like Lomachenko losing to Haney because Haney nicked more close rounds that should have been 10-10 rounds even though Loma won more clear rounds in the fight, the same thing goes for the Fury v Ngannou fight, I think we need to change the scoring system in boxing, I have an idea how we should do it but I dont want to make this comment even longer
I'm gonna cry when Usyk retires the perfect boxer for me.
I did the same thing for Taylor v Catterall 1 giving everything I could to Taylor. I still had Jack winning by a couple of rounds (I haven’t kept the scorecard so can’t post it).
There's no case for Fury winning. Just like there was no case for him winning the first time around against Usyk. I think the scorecards are a shock because people are finally seeing what scorecards for a non-A side Fury who isn't getting biased judging in his favor looks like. Remember, in the first fight to get a win on just one of the cards to make it a split, Craig "I took a fat envelope under the table" Metcalfe had to give Fury BOTH the 11th and 12th round. Just like when Glen Feldman gave BOTH the 11th and 12th round to AJ in his rematch with Usyk. In no way did either of those guys beat Usyk in both those rounds. It's absurdity.
Tyson Fury is a loser. Frank Warren is a loser. Not because they lost a boxing match against Oleksandr Usyk. There's no shame in losing a competitive fight to a man who is going to go down as an all-time great. They're losers because they have been completely ungracious in defeat. Shake the man's hand, tell him good job, admit he was the better man on the night, and if you really "have the minerals" as Brits like to say, work to better yourself and come back stronger.
Warren, in particular, needs to be put in his place. This man tries undermining Usyk's performances at every turn. Remember, he pushed the narrative that Usyk cheated against Dubois. That even though according to him Dubois landed a god-tier, legal punch on Usyk, that Usyk somehow also faked it and milked it to try and get Dubois disqualified. He also pushed Don Charles to go around calling Usyk a fake Christian. Just absolute vile stuff. We all understand he's going to back his fighters, but that kind of crap is just beyond the pale.
I cannot stant the term " hater " i've never hated , i do however dislike gaslighting, lying , disrespectful , unsporting aholes. Fury , his team and management do not deserver what comes with being a world champion . Respect , honour , acclaim and a place in the Hall Of Fame.
Be gone with them . I'm certain Usyk is glad of the freedom from Fury. End of story for me
Good comment. Agree completely.
No, but fury vs aj is a goer now
- No I can't make a case for a Tyson win.
I just watched hatman round by around breakdown of the fight on his patreon he gave fury 3 rounds with slow mo and rewind and all that.
Sounds about right.
A simple answer is no Joe. He lost both. And I had the fight 115 to 113 Uysk. Take the L and move on.
I fully agree. The last fight should of been an 8-4 but I thought this one was closer. A split would of been more appropriate this time but it evened itself out. Usyk won both
The compubox stats for both fights are very conclusive.
Fury has always taken rounds off due to lack of proper conditioning.
BTW, I don't even think Fury won 5 rounds, I scored in 9-3 Usyk.
hey Joe - i scored live 116-112 for Usyk but in the back of my mind i thought they might job him and made notes of any round that could have gone to Fury and live i had 1,2,4,5,9,12 and i guess 3 was close on reflection - so i'd be willing at a stretch to go one further than you joe and give him 6 with my Tyson goggles on but that being said if ya go the other way and be biased for Usyk give him 1,2,3, Fury gets 4,5 and the rest is Usyk so thats how the AI got to 118-110 i assume which is as plausible as Fury winning 7 rounds to be fair -
Tbh, Joe if they were both a bit younger then maybe but just maybe. At their present ages though I'd say no - Usyk has nothing to prove and Fury needs to establish who was the best British HW of their time by meeting AJ. Cheers, Bob
You missed the point of the video. It wasn't about if there should be a 3rd fight, but instead trying to score the fight as much as possible to tyson and seeing what score joe ended up with
No, i think its a broader question worth opining on. @remonimodexd7116
Not in my opinion. Brits want to see who the UK's number one is. It should be Fury v Dubois. AJ has already been relegated
He had 2 chances..n nobody cares what Flabs thinks ,he can take whatever he likes to the grave.robbing usyk would guarantee a trilogy n would benefit turki n turki wanted a trilogy..robbing Flabs,benefits who exactly? This is idiot deontay behavior which we trashed n consistency obligates us to trash flabs' reaction too.apart from flabs' mental state and his deluded fanboys a third fight is not needed by anybody else.a third fight just holds up the div again n we have moved on from those days..give sm1 else a chance.too bad if flabs is throwing a tantrum..its time he grew up.
Usyk no fear no boy Usyk no fear. Ruffa dan ruff, tuffa dan tufff. Strong like lion...
So the way you've put Joe..uysk was the one pushing uysk landing more punches 👊..only one winner uysk come on we all know uysk is just unbelievable well done both men you both done a great job...
I had it as a draw Joe as I was watching it, no drawn rounds but that could change easily it’s what you like.
I thought Usyk won and wasn't surprised by the cards, but I think there is a way to score for Fury. On first watch I had 1 3 5 9 12 to Fury, and 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 11 to Usyk, and 10 I didn't score because I didn't have a clear opinion on first watch.
So that's either 7-5 Usyk or 6-6 draw, depending on how you go with round 10.
2 and 4 were pretty close, and Fury did have some good work in those rounds, so if you shift one or both of those to Fury you could get a Fury win.
The first fight was like this too I thought. You could get to a Fury win by like a point if you gave him all the swing rounds, but the thing is, most people are just not going to score it that way, and most fans aren't going to see the fight that way. If you have to fall a certain way on the swing rounds to get one guy the win, most people (and most scorecards) are going to think the other guy won.
The AI seemed (on the basis of this fight only) to be judging ONLY based on who landed the most punches.Which, while vitally important, should not be used as the sole criterion when judging professional boxing. The AI, I'm sure, will get much better very soon.
AI was fair. It’s not biased or emotional.
@@johnmartin7158 Sure, but in professional boxing who inflicts the most damage is more important than mere punches landed. In other words 4 hard punches > 5 pitty pat punches.
no, please! (haven't watched your vid yet Joe so reacting to your title!!)
... case friggin' dismissed.
Fury should do us a favour & go and hide under whatever rock John Fury has been hiding under.
God no. Let’s move on now their era is done. Boring now
Itauma is the future
Why would Tyson want a rematch? Tyson has already said he won the first fight, and easily won the second fight. Tyson is therefore still unbeaten and undisputed. Makes no sense for a rematch. Happy new year.
Not a chance, even Turkii, who wanted a fury win more than he wanted his next breath, had Usyk by 4.
Merry Christmas Joe ⛄
I don't t like giving 10-10 rounds either but if you cannot give a distinct win to one fighter over another then its the only sensible way to go. Its most unfair if you give the round to one man when they haven't truly deserved it. Like the AI judge I gave the 1st a 10-10 and I felt the 12th was rightly a draw too, i just edged it to Fury simply because Id hardly given him anything else for several rounds.
David vs Goliath = UKR vs Putin. A.Usyk is the only HW since M. Ali who could be bigger than the sport itself. A God fearing family man bringing the eyes of the world upon centuries of Russian genocide. Slava Ukraini!.
Fury only outlanded Usyk in one round. He's was lucky to be gifted more than one round
No no no...enough of the clown show...Usyk is just thec dominant fighter.
Zero case! What’s the point of having Fury to come again with the fats & no heart as a warrior? Unlike his 2nd match with Wilder!😢
" Fury was throwing in ones & two's,
Usyk was throwing in three's & fours,
3 & 4 beats 1 & 2.". Teddy Atlas 2024.
Noooooo fury lost easily even though I'm a brit I 100% can see usyk won by atleast 3 rounds. Fury is delusional and his team are his enablers because they are to afraid to tell him the truth. If I was on his team I would keep it 100 and tell him you clearly lost
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What's in it for Usyk damn all
No!
The world evolves around Usyk, not Fury.
I've watch the fight back three times now just in case I might have missed something, and I just cannot give fury anymore than rounds 3,5,9 and 10 unless I pretend to be a fury fan and become deluded myself. Plus I dont think the interest would be their as much for a third fight.
There’s no man born from his mother can beat Fury twice. Except Usyk lol
No
I scored it was 116-112 for Usyk.. Fury has good work at times but Usyk just too good.
Fury can still go on and batter AJ, Dubois I believe he’s clearly a few leagues above them.
Don’t know what had happened to Fury recently mate! After wilder fights he went down south! May be age is the factor or something else! AJ is waiting for you Fury if you still want to make more Dinero$$
So many hating Fury. Its a bit sad. Hes just a boxer. No need for a rematch. If Fury beats a couple of good challengers and Usyk is still champ then sure , why not. I thought it was a close fight. Fury is a very good fighter and people seem to want him to go away. I find that a shame.
Fury's ego cant handle the loss. But deep down he knows...and that will hurt him far more than the punches. Big John once again has gone missing. Lets hope he stays gone. in no way can Fury be seen to have won either fight. Close yes, but a controversial decision? No.
Fury won 7 rounds on at least 1 judges card
Typical! Typed it as I listened and you made the exact point I made. Darn it!
Every time usyk beats a Warren fighter he cry's and throws his toys out of the pram
If 24% of Fury's punches landed (Compubox), I'd say about 45% hit the guard of Usyk (gloves, forearms, elbows) and the rest missed; that's the difference. Is that the Fury stable style? Re: Peter Fury? Hughie Fury? Magic or misdirection; Tyson P.Daniels Fury, the greatest [gobshite] of all time! Rest In Pieces...
I had Fury winning 1,4,5, 9,10,11 so 114-114 for me. There were at least three swing rounds so neither guy could have gotten it
I thought it was a draw
1. usyk's the champ. fury has to take the belt. and he fought a defensive fight. it was usyk being aggressive . 2. all fury did was what he normaly does sit back and wait to counter 3. on the inside he just grabbed. Turki should make a mandatory Joe Parker vS Tyson Fury for the winner to get Usyk again.
Tyson lost both times time to move on. I can't make a case for tyson because he wasn't hitting Uysk cleaning while he was getting hit cleaning on the body then head
The fact u called the first round for usyk says it all. Fury won the first round easy!!!! Fury won the fight unless your counting the tip tap shots from usyk on fury’s arms!
Usyk still hasn’t beaten wilder not the best of his generation!!!
Yes I think so, I personally scored it a draw.
There's not much more I could add to be honest. I would absolutely struggle to give Fury anything more than 4 rounds in their second fight, I think 3 rounds for Fury is the most I could give him, I'd be generous to give him a 4th & even then that'd play on my mind.
Slightly off topic, but I find Team Fury's reactions & views quite fascinating, albeit completely idiotic. This is what happens when people surround themselves with others who blow smoke up their a***s & tell them what they want to hear, this is one of the problems with Fury, he needs that as motivation & when he accepted that it was always going to be a matter of time before he reacted the way he has.
I've heard Usyk state on several occasions that his team don't dish out compliments towards him, but are hard on him. He also said in an interview a day or so ago, after the Usyk Vs. Fury 2 fight, when he was starting out he was very arrogant, he could do this and that, but when he got associated with his team they quickly got that out of him & kept him down to earth. Soon after in the same interview, he got asked if he was an all time great (or words to that affect), he simply more or less said, I don't think about that, I'm just a Boxer. Polar opposite mentalities, also very fascinating.
Fury has that much smoke blowed up him he could identify as a chimney with a preferred pronoun of, brick.
Sorry for the off topic part, but it'd be interesting to hear your views on that aspect, Joe.
All the best, Joe.
Its a shame Frank Warren is such a bad loser, its a bad look for the sport and the UK
Come on get it right uncle frank 🤣🤣
No. To be honest with you I didn’t even watch this one as I can’t be arsed after looking at the headline. With respect to, a simple No will do Joe.
No
I scored it was 116-112 for Usyk.. Fury has good work at times but Usyk just too good.
Fury can still go on and batter AJ, Dubois I believe he’s clearly a few leagues above them.