World's First NEGATIVE CYCLE Clear | Memory of Chaos 12 2.0.2 | Honkai Star Rail

Usually, when a person clears Memory of Chaos, turns are used up, and if the turns used don't go pass the threshold of making the number on the sidebar go down, it's called a 0 Cycle. But what if instead of losing turns from clearing boss, you gained one instead? The only suitable term for it would be, "Negative Cycle".
Seele is the only character that can pull this off, I'm just proving that whenever wherever, no matter if you're F2P, dolphin or even whale, even if Seele's eidolons are bad, her base kit is enough to scale higher than everyone else with good supports and player skill, Seele will always be your best DPS, always and forever. I'll surpass myself as many times as needed to get this point across.
Oh yeah, E6 SW isn't needed here because E4 and E6 couldn't take effect as Sam had no debuffs, so E0 is enough. You don't even need to build damage on her, I did for safety purposes but Seele actually overkilled Sam here, 572k skill + 948k ult without Tingyun talent proc on ult, which means if it did, Seele ult would do around 1.04 or 1.05m, add together with the skill and that's enough to kill Sam, whose HP is only 1.62m. Not even needing SW's def down bug. After doing that 2.3m dmg in the video, if you use my speed tuning from other videos, Seele would still have 5 moves 1 resurgence 2 ults (minimum), with 4 moves for Sparkle, 1 ult for SW, and 1 ult for Tingyun. So, in total she can do 6m or even 7m effective damage when counting in DPS Whalewolf. Hell this might not even be Seele's full potential, every time I think I know what Seele's max damage is, she gets even stronger.
World's First NEGATIVE CYCLE Clear | Memory of Chaos 12 2.0.2 | Honkai Star Rail
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[@transferredchannel]

Not only is Seele the strongest at E0, she's also the strongest at E6. QED

[@Simon-hs7ik]

tbh e6 acheron can do 10 million damage with ult in moc, and ratio topaz has the theoretic highest dpr in the game, it’s just enemy health is too low for high eidelon ratio topaz to shine

[@transferredchannel]

@@Simon-hs7ik 10 million because it's true AoE (I'll still have so see it to believe it), for ST Argenti should still have the highest in single attack at almost 3m. As for Ratio Topaz, they still have to take turns to clear, so they're weaker in terms of frontloading, and Topaz ult is stupid hard to activate, I would know since I tried to use it twice in Jingyuan 0 cycle, at most you would get it 1 time unless you boost her with Sparkle and ignore Ratio, Ratio should still get 2 ults normally though, effective DPR (not overkill) won't be higher than 4/5m like DHIL and Seele.

[@Simon-hs7ik]

@@transferredchannel Argenti can theoretically reach 4 million ST, but full buff acheron can reach 5 million ST. The 10 million damage was even without her self buffs.
E6 seele has 5mil dpr with three support, ratio and topaz at e6 can reach that with fu xuan as sustain. In reality seele feels better because she is more frontloaded and enemies don’t have enough health to tank e6 dps nukes. This is also why e6 argenti feels extremely broken even in moc where he is supposed to perform worse since he just one shots everything lol.

[@Simon-hs7ik]

@@transferredchannel can you give me discord again I will send you the 10m video

[@transferredchannel]

@@Simon-hs7ik Honestly 5m is just a ballpark number, it's highly likely she can easily reach 6m with good speed tuning and realistic relics without counting in SW damage, I might to download another PS and try her against 3-5 Sams, resurgence is impossible to calc so it might push her over the damage to kill 4 or even 5 Sams, but we'll see. As for Argenti and Acheron, I just tried Argenti on a weakness broken Sam with full SW debuff, full Sparkle and Bronya buff, and he did 2.6m, so idk where you got your 4m ST and even 5m ST on Acheron from, now it's making the 10m sound even more unrealistic.

[@neraklh1017]

Power of Whaling

[@albiflora]

I'm at a loss for words

[@igneo8005]

impressive wallet xD cant wait to see your video of E6 Acheron

[@Mizukiluver]

Beautiful

[@loftvh]

this is so GOOD

[@Simon-hs7ik]

e6 sparkle momen

[@mocker2325]

You are absolutely right, Silverwolf; the speed is too slow.

[@hafizhapezi8964]

Power of money

[@pencil1588]

why seele deals so low damage compared jingliu and dan heng?

[@berny8463]

cant wait for the second quantum harmony and absolutely destroy the game

[@adalinee5720]

Nice showcase
When will we get this moc ?

[@transferredchannel]

2 more days

[@navidanjum7480]

May ik the background OST?

[@transferredchannel]

lmao you've never heard it before? It's "You Say Run" from BNHA, I think the original is better ngl

[@navidanjum7480]

​@@transferredchannel Nah man first time hearing this... 💀

[@transferredchannel]

@@navidanjum7480 Go watch All Might vs Nomu, this is slightly based off of that

[@arimaackerman7769]

Where's the negative cycle

[@transferredchannel]

Seele gained 1 turn from original, positive cycle = losing turns from beating boss, negative cycle = gaining turns from beating boss.

[@ilyadudin]

Todo's backflash reference).

[@transferredchannel]

LMAO fr

[@MakinItRain24-7]

Nah cuz bro didn't even get to play the game

[@zerefererai]

Seele'd

[@TokitoRen5633]

your a hardcore seele simp and no shes not better then dhil or even jingliu your using seele resurgence while denying dhil ult advance

[@harr0wing890]

Eula levels of crit rate lol but great video

[@transferredchannel]

LMAO it's higher in battle trust

[@Lycanthewolf7715]

Seele build pls

[@transferredchannel]

Watch the video again

[@Lycanthewolf7715]

Oh thx

[@pixelrose_]

whale

[@Ilovemonsoon]

Man I dont think negative cycle clear is possible, even with advance forward it's just 0 cycle clear. To achieve true negative cycle, one must end the battle even before starting it -> impossible
One day, if there is an E6 who can break and kill the enemies in an instance at the start of the battle, youll get the chance

[@transferredchannel]

I guess we have different definition of negative cycle, advance forward wasn't used here, I think it's negative because Seele gained a turn after killing everything, as oppose to losing a turn.

[@SlL222]

@@transferredchannel won’t it be neutral cycle? She just didn’t spend original turns, but killed due to her talent.
For example if character with 134 spd kills spending 0 AV will he have 3 turns instead of 2?
If you call it negative cycle because seele gains one more turn, this will work only with seele, because if theoretically Argenti can nuke everything within his ult he won’t gain any turn but still clear it spending 0 AV.
So it means, your definition of negative cycle is only works with characters who has extra action( sometimes action forward)
Negative -1
Neutral 0
Positive +1
I think, it will be better to call it just 0 turn clear, while you are calling it negative cycle, you are also saying seele gains turn, but it won’t affect number of cycles anyway, only turns
The ordinary 0 cycle is neutral, it is or 30 cycles left. Positive cycle- when 29 cycles left. So it’s always neutral/positive
The game doesn’t allow to start battle with 30 cycle left and end it with 31 cycles left.

[@transferredchannel]

@@SlL222 Yeah it only works when Seele does the last hit, or any new character that'll gain action without losing any after winning, on Aventurine the win con would be Acheron nuke first phase, Seele finish up.

[@Evra22]

Roberto Acheron can now end battle before starting it lol even though it only works on normal overworld enemies

[@Ilovemonsoon]

@@Evra22 haha Acheron is cracked

[@zero-uj5uf]

how much money have you spent on this game

[@transferredchannel]

0, I use private server to test builds.

[@Ren-jv9xc]

Nice showcase. Seele at peak is the best dps right now. But I don't think that most of the people will see your point of Seele being the best. Most people will have bad to mediocre relic on her thus they cannot reach the certain damage breakpoint. My Seele is on top 10 SeeleLand and she feels a lot better than any other dps. BTW if you considered 0AV clear DHIL should be able to do it as well.

[@transferredchannel]

E6S5 DHIL cant, RM Sparkle SW DHIL ult into EBA3, not enough damage. And he still uses up a turn to do damage, while Seele gains one.

[@Ren-jv9xc]

​​@@transferredchannelIs it really? I saw a set up with E6S5 with pela SW RM 3EBA > Ult did around 1.4m damage which should be enough (2 E6 Stack). Let's say we swap pela to SW with S5 LC and we Sparkle Ult > Ruan mei Ult > SW Ult (- Def Bug) > DHIL Ult > DHIL 3EBA, It should deal more than 1.4m and no action number goes down, no (going with your term in the description that say no action value use)? If RM isn't enough may be Bronya E6 > E > DHIL on the first wave and he should still have a buff on the Sam and should deal more damage than Ruan Mei.

[@transferredchannel]

@@Ren-jv9xc RM helps him cap out def shred so that's huge, I'll make a showcase tomorrow. The damage is not 1.4m ST that's for sure.

[@Ren-jv9xc]

@@transferredchannel Thanks, it should be interesting to see. I guess it might be the current MoC buff contribution as well.

[@TheGenshinSimp]

I wouldn’t consider seele the best dps tbh. So much competition

[@prof.insane]

Cringe