Hi there I am from Australia Perth WA wish that this steam locomotives engine was rebuilt and brought here to make Australia great again our government won't amide it but we are falling n falling very slowly with the same job same pay policy our economy is doomed
@@stephenplatt2078 Thanks Stephan. 😊 We are stepping things up this year, with more videos, more locomotive restoration and overhauls, plus some other railway based projects along with some mainline running with 34028 "Eddystone" and also the Southern Locomotives Roadshow that will be attending various galas and events where you can meet some of SLL team and talk about the locos and find out how to get ride on the footplate of one of our Locomotives!
I remember Brocklebank Line at the GC, in a sorry state. All the best for it's restoration. Would love to see it on double track on the Great Central in the near future.
It's only the beginning of the restoration, we have many hurdles to jump and battles to fight on the road to completion. We hope people watch and even join us to help towards making this happen. www.southern-locomotives.co.uk
We are soon to develop a TH-cam shop where you can buy merchandise and souvenirs that help support the restorations. Currently we have a Facebook group called Friends of 34058 Sir Frederick Pile that sells goods to raise money for this loco. It's ran by Andy and Gerri Ford who have looked after the loco while it was at the Mid Hants Railway.
@@donlunn792A lot of work indeed but we love a challenge! So much so that we are restoring two identical locomotives at the same time. This one is named Sir Frederick Pile 34058 the other is named Sidmouth 34010.
Americans as well, we've got Bigboy Union Pacific 4014, NORFOLK AND WESTERN #611, UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD #844, and many others that are currently operating. Not sure where you are going with only the British thing.
We are lucky that Bullied classed these locomotives as mixed frieght/ passenger when they built in wartime As there were severe restrictions on Express engines and as such a large number of Merchant Navy and West Country class still exist
Hi Brian. Brocklebank Line will feature in future videos where we'll give regular updates on all of the loco's. As you can see Brocklebank is not missing out on getting some love!
you should also sell a working steam wistle repleca of this locomotive it can also be shipped to other parts of the world so that british steam loco fan even do im a british still a big fan of br steam locos
Hi Jimy. We are restoring more than one. Seen here is Sir Frederick Pile, but we also are working on a loco named Sidmouth and one named Brocklebank Line.
How you people get the vision and energy to tackle a task once done in workshops of a few thousand men is beyond me, but how many of your kind have bought Barry to right and bright.
These things do take many thousands of man hours to put right. Our workforce is the largest it has ever been and is still growing but so is the work load. Finances are our biggest worry though, we are having to stretch things. We would love to have a scaffolding roof over the loco's to protect them but we save that money to put towards parts that are needed.
Mike Vout done the world a huge favour in saving this loco and gathering together parts for its restoration over the years. There are many gone but very not forgotten people who have helped save our heritage over the years. Some knowing sadly that they won't be alive when it is finished. I will definitely make a point to mention Mike in future videos.
Ooh...funny shedplate on Sir Keith 75F - Tunbridge Wells East. Should be my old (2nd) depot Salisbury 72B. My old, old workmates would have worked on her. Salisbury were known for keeping their engines a lot cleaner too. I saw another picture with it carrying 71B, never based at Bournemouth though according to records. My workmates would possibly have taken over Sir Freddy too when it passed through Salisbury from Exmouth Junction - 72A if the Exeter crews didn't work through. Sorry, not an anorak. I just have a small book 'BR Steam Motive Power Depots SR'. You can have it if want for reference and interesting plans of the old depots.
Sir Keith Parks home is now at The Spa Valley Railway in Tunbridge Wells, Kent. It now proudly displays its shed code. Not everything can or even should be historically accurate all the time though. We are however going for a historically accurate cosmetic look on another one of our locos, 34070 Manston is replicating the "end of steam" era this year. It's deliberately weathered looking paintwork is not being washed so it will resemble how many steam locomotives looked in the 1960's. Look out for it as it looks fantastically filthy!!
We are always happy to receive railway books! 🙂👍We can happily read through them and then pass them on to other Railway Maniacs through our Friends of 34058 Sir Frederick Pile fund raising stall on Facebook.
You can see why it costs so much to bring these wonderful machines back to life. Can I ask please, where was the original asbestos cladding and what, if anything, do you use as a replacement? Some of my old workmates at Bournemouth depot (I started back in 1987), said that some drivers & firemen used to get part time work on their days off helping to scrap the old locos and strip the asbestos off. I guess the lucky ones managed to avoid lung cancer.
Thanks for your comment. Some of the loco's that were saved from Barry scrapyard had the asbestos removed before they were allowed to leave the yard to prevent the dreaded stuff causing problems later. Asbestos was a "wonder material" for many years as it had many great properties. Unfortunately as we now know it had a major issue... In a future video we will show you the material we now use.👍
The boiler and the firebox look to be in good shape. Thick material not likely to rust away to nothing no matter how much exposure to the elements. The light metalwork like the cab structure has nearly gone but far more easily rebuilt. A good boilermaker would have little trouble fabricating a new cab provided drawings are available or there's another loco from which to take dimensions. None of it terribly hard, but expensive, tedious and time consuming. If I was a bit younger and lived in the UK, I'd be happy to lend a hand at no charge. Ex-mechanical fitter from Yorkshire, now in Australia.... You guys are worth your weight in gold, keeping historic steam traction alive....
Thanks for comment. It's good to hear from people from all over the world. Most of our guys here are 65 and over some indeed are into their eighties and still going strong! A previous video showed Alan 80+ shovelling track ballast, he's an inspiration to us all!
@@railwaymadYes, I'm 76 but still got a few miles left. Starting to slow down a bit now though, even though I said I wouldn't allow that to happen lol....
Nice to see Keith Park honoured with a locomotive, being a fellow Kiwi he's a particular hero of mine. Daunting looking job, best of luck with it. What do you do about the pitting on the boiler, I'm guessing it can't be pad welded?
Dealing with the boiler is a very specialist job and takes up a huge chunk of cash. We are about get inside this boiler to remove all the accumulated rust and debris so that the boiler can have a thorough examination so that we know how much work needs to be done to it.
Most people that have knowledge of the Battle of Britain would have known of Sir Keith Park as he was possibly the most important person involved in the Battle.
Very true. Preservation world was lucky with Bulleids though as so many were at Barry late 60s through to early 80s. So many other classes were lost or are poorly represented. 20 light Pacifics and 11 Merchants is good going!
What an amazing locomotive and everyone connected with this beautiful locomotive are amazing as well. I would love to see her at speed on our rail network well done to all of you. 👍🚂🚃
Many thanks Martin. One of our loco's has run on the network in Kent when it's restoration was completed some years ago. Have you watched some of our other videos featuring our other loco's?
@@martinhall60 34028 "Eddystone" will be returning to the mainline in the coming months and will be a very busy locomotive. We will announce its whereabouts regularly on the "Railway Mad" TH-cam channel to give you a chance to see it or even buy a ticket to ride behind it! Thanks for commenting
When some of this was filmed the gas axe was busy on drag boxes (another story!) and having a good number of willing volunteers that didn't want to wait for it they cracked on struggling by hand and got it done. Thanks for the comments David.
Great videos and verbal description but the presenter sounds like he's giving evidence in court. A more relaxed style would be much better. It got a 'like' though and I've subscribed.
Many thanks for your honest critique Ray. I agree 100%! My vocal delivery still needs a lot of work. I'm glad the video content itself earned a like and an honest subscriber.👍👍🙂
You are pretty much bang on there David. In an upcoming video one of our guys (Dave Ensor) talks us through the plan with the cab. They have before used the template method as well as new build from scratch.
Fantastic update, although it’s a ‘how long is a piece of string’ sort of question, what’s the predicted timeframe on overhaul for a loco in that condition? Will Sir Fred go to the MHR on completion or centuries plans not been sorted yet?
Hi Anthony. These are good questions! We ask these questions ourselves, as you say how long is a piece of string? We will try to answer your questions in future videos as many people will be interested in the answers.
@@railwaymad In the UK it is used to free rusted joints (think disassembling exhaust systems) - over here on t'other side of T'Pond (USA) the nearest thing I found to PlusGas is Kroil (penetrating oil) good luck! Nice video, thanks for sharing, I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned PlusGas!
We have been using penetrating oil , usually WD40 that has been regularly applied for weeks (sometimes years) beforehand to help try to release parts. You have to remember that this locomotive was last used 60 years ago and has sat outside rusting away since then. I'm surprised that most of it can and will be used again.
Audrey didn't fight the Luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain though, while Sir Frederick Pile did so didn't earn that distinction. It is an honour to work on locomotives that are named in honour of our war heroes.
The loco is a 'battle of britain'. Agreed it is not the best namem , but Awdrey would get totally inappropriate. The rev for an unnamed black 5 perhaps?
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I want one
Hi there I am from Australia Perth WA wish that this steam locomotives engine was rebuilt and brought here to make Australia great again our government won't amide it but we are falling n falling very slowly with the same job same pay policy our economy is doomed
You can actually become a part owner! Watch our video titled "WHO DOES THIS?" Our before and after video. @alexsproductions7728 . Join us!!
These Guys are brilliant, in what they do, Stephen.
@@stephenplatt2078 Thanks Stephan. 😊 We are stepping things up this year, with more videos, more locomotive restoration and overhauls, plus some other railway based projects along with some mainline running with 34028 "Eddystone" and also the Southern Locomotives Roadshow that will be attending various galas and events where you can meet some of SLL team and talk about the locos and find out how to get ride on the footplate of one of our Locomotives!
It is coming together, just takes time, well Done, Stephen.
Nice to see that Brocklebank Line is receiving some attention, following its time at the Great Central Railway. Best wishes with the restorations.
I remember Brocklebank Line at the GC, in a sorry state. All the best for it's restoration. Would love to see it on double track on the Great Central in the near future.
Brocklebank Line has been fully dismantled. It's frames are being cleaned up and painted currently.
It needs to be back in steam and stretching its legs again!
Good to see work happening to General Sir Frederick Pile. Remember seeing it for many years at Avon Valley Railway.
Every week it is like a hornets nest of activity around this loco. The progress is immense!
Thanks for bringing her back to life
It's only the beginning of the restoration, we have many hurdles to jump and battles to fight on the road to completion. We hope people watch and even join us to help towards making this happen.
www.southern-locomotives.co.uk
@@railwaymad I see what I can do If I can't then I still hope you can get her reborn again
We are soon to develop a TH-cam shop where you can buy merchandise and souvenirs that help support the restorations. Currently we have a Facebook group called Friends of 34058 Sir Frederick Pile that sells goods to raise money for this loco. It's ran by Andy and Gerri Ford who have looked after the loco while it was at the Mid Hants Railway.
Great Video and Great work you do😊
Thanks Chris👍
Amazing Restoration. The work that is needed is immense.
@@donlunn792A lot of work indeed but we love a challenge! So much so that we are restoring two identical locomotives at the same time. This one is named Sir Frederick Pile 34058 the other is named Sidmouth 34010.
Great progress guys 👍🏻 Only the British could take on a project as big as an old steam engine 🤣 Happy Christmas 🎄 and happy new year 🥳 to everyone 👍🏻
Thanks Daf man, merry Christmas to you
The Americans restored a C&O mallet #1309 recently....
Americans as well, we've got Bigboy Union Pacific 4014, NORFOLK AND WESTERN #611, UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD #844, and many others that are currently operating. Not sure where you are going with only the British thing.
We are lucky that Bullied classed these locomotives as mixed frieght/ passenger when they built in wartime As there were severe restrictions on Express engines and as such a large number of Merchant Navy and West Country class still exist
Great video - thanks to all at Southern Locomotives Ltd. Please join us!
i probably played on that engine as a kid. best part of a visit to barry island was the scrapyard.
Thx for update. I'll have to look to see if you have one recently for Brocklebank,
Hi Brian. Brocklebank Line will feature in future videos where we'll give regular updates on all of the loco's. As you can see Brocklebank is not missing out on getting some love!
@railwaymaniacs7392 thx for reply
I'd love to see her operational again, was following her when at GCR many years ago
Learnt something, never thought about boiler expansion and means to let it slide.
Every day is a school day here. We like to educate, inform, and work on railway items while consuming copious amounts of tea and biscuits!
@@railwaymad Sounds same as my flying school!
Excellent work guys
Thank you very much!
Cracking video well done all of you. Can,t wait for your next one. Good luck.
Glad you enjoyed it
Very good,looking forward to the next video….merry xmas
Thanks, you too!
Good work guys & Girls. I wish you all a very Merry Xmas
Thanks Nige. Merry Christmas
you should also sell a working steam wistle repleca of this locomotive it can also be shipped to other parts of the world so that british steam loco fan even do im a british still a big fan of br steam locos
Glad that your restoring an old Loco!!!🙂🚂🚂🚂
Hi Jimy. We are restoring more than one. Seen here is Sir Frederick Pile, but we also are working on a loco named Sidmouth and one named Brocklebank Line.
How you people get the vision and energy to tackle a task once done in workshops of a few thousand men is beyond me, but how many of your kind have bought Barry to right and bright.
These things do take many thousands of man hours to put right. Our workforce is the largest it has ever been and is still growing but so is the work load. Finances are our biggest worry though, we are having to stretch things. We would love to have a scaffolding roof over the loco's to protect them but we save that money to put towards parts that are needed.
remake whole cab its quicker you havent mensioned mike V
who saved this loco keep up the work ttfn&ty
whyd you have to be such a sarcastic git
Mike Vout done the world a huge favour in saving this loco and gathering together parts for its restoration over the years.
There are many gone but very not forgotten people who have helped save our heritage over the years. Some knowing sadly that they won't be alive when it is finished.
I will definitely make a point to mention Mike in future videos.
@@philnewcomers9170
I inherited my sarcasm from my father. He left it to me in his will.
Depends on how you want to approach it. Do you want to use as much originail metal of just use it to template off and start from scratch?
Hi Ross. Is this the cab you are talking about?
Ooh...funny shedplate on Sir Keith 75F - Tunbridge Wells East. Should be my old (2nd) depot Salisbury 72B. My old, old workmates would have worked on her. Salisbury were known for keeping their engines a lot cleaner too. I saw another picture with it carrying 71B, never based at Bournemouth though according to records.
My workmates would possibly have taken over Sir Freddy too when it passed through Salisbury from Exmouth Junction - 72A if the Exeter crews didn't work through.
Sorry, not an anorak. I just have a small book 'BR Steam Motive Power Depots SR'. You can have it if want for reference and interesting plans of the old depots.
Sir Keith Parks home is now at The Spa Valley Railway in Tunbridge Wells, Kent. It now proudly displays its shed code.
Not everything can or even should be historically accurate all the time though.
We are however going for a historically accurate cosmetic look on another one of our locos, 34070 Manston is replicating the "end of steam" era this year. It's deliberately weathered looking paintwork is not being washed so it will resemble how many steam locomotives looked in the 1960's. Look out for it as it looks fantastically filthy!!
We are always happy to receive railway books! 🙂👍We can happily read through them and then pass them on to other Railway Maniacs through our Friends of 34058 Sir Frederick Pile fund raising stall on Facebook.
@@railwaymad True. I much prefer 4472 in Apple green without the German style smoke deflectors but the grief I got from my workmates....
Good to see evidence of Paul Cass working!
Oh yes!!
You can see why it costs so much to bring these wonderful machines back to life. Can I ask please, where was the original asbestos cladding and what, if anything, do you use as a replacement?
Some of my old workmates at Bournemouth depot (I started back in 1987), said that some drivers & firemen used to get part time work on their days off helping to scrap the old locos and strip the asbestos off.
I guess the lucky ones managed to avoid lung cancer.
Thanks for your comment. Some of the loco's that were saved from Barry scrapyard had the asbestos removed before they were allowed to leave the yard to prevent the dreaded stuff causing problems later.
Asbestos was a "wonder material" for many years as it had many great properties. Unfortunately as we now know it had a major issue...
In a future video we will show you the material we now use.👍
Fascinating.❤
The boiler and the firebox look to be in good shape. Thick material not likely to rust away to nothing no matter how much exposure to the elements.
The light metalwork like the cab structure has nearly gone but far more easily rebuilt. A good boilermaker would have little trouble fabricating a new cab provided drawings are available or there's another loco from which to take dimensions.
None of it terribly hard, but expensive, tedious and time consuming. If I was a bit younger and lived in the UK, I'd be happy to lend a hand at no charge. Ex-mechanical fitter from Yorkshire, now in Australia....
You guys are worth your weight in gold, keeping historic steam traction alive....
Thanks for comment. It's good to hear from people from all over the world. Most of our guys here are 65 and over some indeed are into their eighties and still going strong! A previous video showed Alan 80+ shovelling track ballast, he's an inspiration to us all!
I recall in 1967 the cab side sheet of a Bulleid Pacific just falling off by itself at Waterloo.
@@johnjephcote7636 Sounds about right John...
@@railwaymadYes, I'm 76 but still got a few miles left. Starting to slow down a bit now though, even though I said I wouldn't allow that to happen lol....
Age is just number!
Antique gloss on classy 2 good luk pnu 🎉 ❤🎉
Nice to see Keith Park honoured with a locomotive, being a fellow Kiwi he's a particular hero of mine. Daunting looking job, best of luck with it. What do you do about the pitting on the boiler, I'm guessing it can't be pad welded?
Dealing with the boiler is a very specialist job and takes up a huge chunk of cash.
We are about get inside this boiler to remove all the accumulated rust and debris so that the boiler can have a thorough examination so that we know how much work needs to be done to it.
Great Work! I’ve subscribed 😁
Good man. Some OO "modelling" coming up in the next video.
Think the plane Buffs Helped...Sir Kieth Park Name has to be googled
Most people that have knowledge of the Battle of Britain would have known of Sir Keith Park as he was possibly the most important person involved in the Battle.
What are the other two rusty locos in the background of "Sir Frederick"... They look foreign to me?
From Finland.
Cant have too many bulleid pacifics. Spam can , or rebuilt.
We love them!
Very true. Preservation world was lucky with Bulleids though as so many were at Barry late 60s through to early 80s. So many other classes were lost or are poorly represented.
20 light Pacifics and 11 Merchants is good going!
The firemen didn’t like them! But yes a great loco. But we weren’t on the footplate.
@@donlunn792 didn't bulleid say 'they are built to burn coal'?
What an amazing locomotive and everyone connected with this beautiful locomotive are amazing as well. I would love to see her at speed on our rail network well done to all of you. 👍🚂🚃
Many thanks Martin. One of our loco's has run on the network in Kent when it's restoration was completed some years ago. Have you watched some of our other videos featuring our other loco's?
@@martinhall60 34028 "Eddystone" will be returning to the mainline in the coming months and will be a very busy locomotive. We will announce its whereabouts regularly on the "Railway Mad" TH-cam channel to give you a chance to see it or even buy a ticket to ride behind it!
Thanks for commenting
Will 34058 Sir Frederick Pile, 34010 Sidmouth and 35025 Brocklebank Line be mainline certified?
Possibly.
Those boiler mounting bolts are toast. Wouldn’t a gas axe (torch) be a more useful way to get them out?
When some of this was filmed the gas axe was busy on drag boxes (another story!) and having a good number of willing volunteers that didn't want to wait for it they cracked on struggling by hand and got it done. Thanks for the comments David.
Great videos and verbal description but the presenter sounds like he's giving evidence in court. A more relaxed style would be much better. It got a 'like' though and I've subscribed.
Many thanks for your honest critique Ray. I agree 100%!
My vocal delivery still needs a lot of work. I'm glad the video content itself earned a like and an honest subscriber.👍👍🙂
That cab is a handy “pattern” of what you’ll need to make. But almost none of it is usable.
You are pretty much bang on there David. In an upcoming video one of our guys (Dave Ensor) talks us through the plan with the cab. They have before used the template method as well as new build from scratch.
Fantastic update, although it’s a ‘how long is a piece of string’ sort of question, what’s the predicted timeframe on overhaul for a loco in that condition? Will Sir Fred go to the MHR on completion or centuries plans not been sorted yet?
Hi Anthony. These are good questions! We ask these questions ourselves, as you say how long is a piece of string? We will try to answer your questions in future videos as many people will be interested in the answers.
@@railwaymad thanks! Look forward to it!
The destruction of other Bulleid locos (such as Spitfire, etc, etc) was not only short-sighted, but, in my view, criminal.
Have you fellas never heard of "PlusGas"?????
No what is it?
@@railwaymad In the UK it is used to free rusted joints (think disassembling exhaust systems) - over here on t'other side of T'Pond (USA) the nearest thing I found to PlusGas is Kroil (penetrating oil) good luck! Nice video, thanks for sharing, I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned PlusGas!
We have been using penetrating oil , usually WD40 that has been regularly applied for weeks (sometimes years) beforehand to help try to release parts. You have to remember that this locomotive was last used 60 years ago and has sat outside rusting away since then. I'm surprised that most of it can and will be used again.
Wonder how many modern people know who Keith Park was!
Many people don't even know when WW2 took place.
These are such weird engines. The driving wheels are so widely spaced.
They are large, heavy locomotives built to haul heavy long trains.
They just don't look as nice without the streamlining.
You are opening a can of worms there...
@railwaymad I used to work in Shildon railway museum and Sir Winston Churchill was one of my usual posts for tours, so I'm a little biased!
@@lesigh1749 Excellent.
We often get to see the great man's funeral coach, also a very worthwhile museum piece.
@railwaymad I used to climb into that to turn the video projector on every morning!
Horrible name for a decent Loco change it to the Rev Awdrey its about time he was recognised.
How about a rename to Sir Trafford Leigh Mallory? Allus thought that was one of the best BB names
Audrey didn't fight the Luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain though, while Sir Frederick Pile did so didn't earn that distinction.
It is an honour to work on locomotives that are named in honour of our war heroes.
The loco is a 'battle of britain'. Agreed it is not the best namem
, but Awdrey would get totally inappropriate. The rev for an unnamed black 5 perhaps?
There's already one named after him
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