In the last 4 years GW recognized that Primaris lore and visual distinction was an idiot move and they are slowly merging it all back into Space Marines. We all noticed it with Castellan and the Terminators.
@@zzmr_stretchzz8772, don’t be a blind fanboy, Primaris Marines are bland looking. The uniformity is boring, the lack of variance in their armour is boring.
@ I’m just legit asking cause I’m new idc about yalls biases I want the facts as if they are as easily understandable and logical as no female custodes point of view. Primaris just doesn’t really seem to matter so I’m just confused on what people are mad about that’s why I asked. Now fix yourself stop auto going down to the hate path
@@zzmr_stretchzz8772 old space marines used to have lots of customisability, interchangeable parts and more variation with the details on their armour, where as most primaris marines so far have plain flat armour panels with no added details which a lot of people find boring as it means that they all look almost identical it is a design choice that is now starting to go away in a lot of people eyes as it has received a lot of back lash ever since primaris were first introduced
Please, please, PLEASE let the old armour mark models/upgrade sprue rumours be true! I've only started playing 40k about a year ago, but even I just love the classic Firstborn armour marks, weapons and Castaferrum dreadnoughts. I would LOVE to have as much classic design in my army as possible! If GW came out with truescale mk VII, I wouldn't even hesitate to impulse buy an entire army of them 🤩
I could see the intercessor rework with the new edition, with them being less uniform with a bit more varied armour. Then just put them into the new launch boxset - they kinda did the same in AOS with the Sigmarines. And if you think about it, 9th edition had the close support main unit with the assaults in the launch box, 10th had the fire support guys with the infernus (even if I think they made them into close support by the time the codex came out). So this time it could be a battleline unit again - move the timeline forward a bit, primaris have long been integrated into all chapters and it would make sense that they would be wearing a mixed armour.
Recently picked up the Kill Team starter set, decided on Crimson Fists for the marine squad. If these whispers are true, then Pedro's going to headline my second army and I'm going to be in mild debt...
If they gave me the Mark VII helmets, that would help heal the rift for me. The Rage helmets are what helped get me into 40K back in 3rd edition. I'd also love to see updates to the Predator and Rhino. For me the brutality of tracks resonates more with me than the future scifi grav tanks and transports.
Indeed, leaving the futurstic anti-grav tanks for the xenos race give more identity and differentiation between factions. It looks like non sense on space marines, same with jetbikes
Valrak being a self proclaimed space marine fan boy and still keeps calling Vanguard Veterans a fast attack option when they are clearly an elite option... 😂
We need some new Space Shark models, more so Tyberos. Would make sense as the rumors for the 3rd book, are the chapter receiving Primaris reinforcements.
If all the fast attack stuff arrives before 11th I wonder if the launch box for the new edition will have troops with the older armour marks. Off the top of my head, devastators, assault terminators , and all the tank variants are the only first born stuff left ? (Not including fast attack). I'm interested to see how they will pad out the marine half, unless they bring back retired squads. I don't collect orks but to my knowledge most of their range has been updated, so I wonder what they will get, if they are the antagonists of the edition.
We probably aren't getting plastic desolators, which are basically heresy assault intercessors. They released a Melee upgrade kit which lets you just turn standard heresy marines into despoilers. But we need plastic kits of legion unique units so badly.
So the find the molds for those primaris suppressors? That would be some news... Like seriously where we getting those asides from scalpers these days in a box set or combat patrol...
launching a new edition just months after the last codex comes out for 10th edition is really a kick in the teeth. Players should have at least a year to play with a codex before there is a new launch. Codexes need to come up much faster.
As a MASSIVE Minotaurs fan, I'd cream myself if we got a brand new Asterion Moloc Model. My 1st Company Detachment needs its Chapter Master, And not just a Proxy.
All codexes by end of summer, will be insane since End of June is normally reserve for a "New edition" of their top game. But we had 6 codexes in less than 4 months (March to June 2024). We will see! Space Wolves in September will make sense, 2023 was Space Marines, 2024 was Blood Angels It always a big "Space Marines" month
3:59 unless 11th edition isn't about Grey Knights, GW seems going to remaster several old Space Marines units like Tactical Squad, Devastator squad, Vanguard Veterans, HQ on bike, etc
Devestators would kind of be pointless at this point, hell blaster eradicators, infernos marines, desolation cover the devestators niche and work better. I could see them doing lascanon squad and grav squad, maybe heavy bolter too.
@@lizadon0740 Heavy intercessor is almost your Heavy Bolter squad We do indeed need a Lascannon and Grav squad. I will not be surprise if the 11th edition "basic troops in boxset" is a grav gun squad like the Infernus Squad in 10th
is there any possibility the rumors for the marine armour types are not just more of the vairents for HH (as we only have 3 and 6 in the "truescale size and the 4 and both cataphractii and tartros needing re-scaleing) so we get the 2, 5 and a early version of 7? same with the drop pod and its not just a more sutable HH version?
Ive been saying since Indominus that by 11th or 12th, there probably wont be a primaris or first born distinction. The newness of primaris just clashes with the aesthetics (and sales process) of 40k. You want relic armors and different mks running around and locking your biggest customer base out of a lot of customizing just doesnt make sense. Plus just how wide and varied the fandom is for different armors. Combined with that primaris models are too short for the lore. This was just a long way around of basically End Times to get marines players to replace and true scale their models without running everyone off.
Any rumours for Ultramarines? From my understanding GW has a no model no rules policy. However Cato Sicarius has rules but no model (discontinued about 2-3 years ago now)
Its marines so they're exempt. Meanwhile eldar has one of their most important characters axed because they wont sell an old karandras, but wait dark angels sells a metal Ezekiel.
Tactical intercessor kit with Mark II, III, V, VI, VII & X helms and shoulders around a general Mark X Tacticus base would go so hard. I’m holding out hope.
First-born proportions were ugly (even if nostalgic, in the same goblin green bases were ugly but nostalgic), but variations in armour remains cool. Good move if they bring back a greater variety (especially if you can kitbash it nicely).
Thanks for all these facts and clarifying they're not rumours
xD
Forget Pedro, where's the primaris version of his turbo-Chad bro Captain Cortez? He'd go through the Rubicon without the anesthetic!
Apparently Cortez is MIA, his ship disappeared into the warp
Yup Cortez is MIA unless we get new lore.
Cortez is not missing, he is right over there! *points at warp* :P
What about Rynn's Might? The angriest Land Raider?
@@MaxPower89716Wasn't it destroyed in the fight against the orks?
Pedro is a hero. He and the Crimson Fists need a bigger story.
I remember reading about him in pharos he was real good friends with that 1 loyalist iron warrior he seemed really cool
"He knows, the fat one is always watching us."
GW statement to the press in answer to Valrak leaking their rumors
Sternguard is not just using MK.7 helmets but MK.6 beaky corvus helmets aswell
Once that white scars mini drops The Hu are going to see a massive uptick in monthly listeners.
In the last 4 years GW recognized that Primaris lore and visual distinction was an idiot move and they are slowly merging it all back into Space Marines. We all noticed it with Castellan and the Terminators.
What exactly is wrong with primaris?
@@zzmr_stretchzz8772, don’t be a blind fanboy, Primaris Marines are bland looking. The uniformity is boring, the lack of variance in their armour is boring.
@ I’m just legit asking cause I’m new idc about yalls biases I want the facts as if they are as easily understandable and logical as no female custodes point of view. Primaris just doesn’t really seem to matter so I’m just confused on what people are mad about that’s why I asked. Now fix yourself stop auto going down to the hate path
@@zzmr_stretchzz8772they can’t help it all change is bad in their eyes.
@@zzmr_stretchzz8772 old space marines used to have lots of customisability, interchangeable parts and more variation with the details on their armour, where as most primaris marines so far have plain flat armour panels with no added details which a lot of people find boring as it means that they all look almost identical it is a design choice that is now starting to go away in a lot of people eyes as it has received a lot of back lash ever since primaris were first introduced
This Astartes 2 stuff is certainly whetting the appetites of people for older marks of armour.
I would say why not a whole codex together but I do not know. Tu'shan would be awesome. Tyberos would be an amazing and honour to own.
My heart!!! My Crimson Fists!! My Emperror!
Pedro was captured on the border and shipped back to mexico
Primaris should never been a new breed and just a new mark or armor and gear for an Indomitus founding with gullimans return
This was even mentioned in the Watchers of the Throne series, where the High Lords said they had the geneseed stores to found many chapters.
They just should release a god damn upgrade sprue that contains 20 super crisp tactical squad MK7 helmets
Find a 3d printer friend and you won't have to
You got me excited for new Raven Guard model and Pedro Kantor!!!
Please, please, PLEASE let the old armour mark models/upgrade sprue rumours be true!
I've only started playing 40k about a year ago, but even I just love the classic Firstborn armour marks, weapons and Castaferrum dreadnoughts. I would LOVE to have as much classic design in my army as possible! If GW came out with truescale mk VII, I wouldn't even hesitate to impulse buy an entire army of them 🤩
Amen brotha!
I could see the intercessor rework with the new edition, with them being less uniform with a bit more varied armour. Then just put them into the new launch boxset - they kinda did the same in AOS with the Sigmarines. And if you think about it, 9th edition had the close support main unit with the assaults in the launch box, 10th had the fire support guys with the infernus (even if I think they made them into close support by the time the codex came out). So this time it could be a battleline unit again - move the timeline forward a bit, primaris have long been integrated into all chapters and it would make sense that they would be wearing a mixed armour.
just found your channel from Liam Dempsey & Co, love your style! Such a smoothing northern accent talking about my favourite warhamster!
KING IN DA NORF
I love how he says MAYBE when he's looking at the new models on his desktop in his work folder.
Some of these bots that like to post early.... 😂
Old armour marks in primaris is what we need!
New Ultramarines Captain Felix -Arvi Ulf Kjellberg- Decimus Let's Go!
I don't really dislike the Primaris models as much as I dislike the way Cawl and Primaris were forcibly rammed into the lore.
Recently picked up the Kill Team starter set, decided on Crimson Fists for the marine squad. If these whispers are true, then Pedro's going to headline my second army and I'm going to be in mild debt...
If they gave me the Mark VII helmets, that would help heal the rift for me. The Rage helmets are what helped get me into 40K back in 3rd edition. I'd also love to see updates to the Predator and Rhino. For me the brutality of tracks resonates more with me than the future scifi grav tanks and transports.
Agreed. I mean Drop Pods are going to be refreshed according to rumors. So predators and rhinos should be updated too.
Indeed, leaving the futurstic anti-grav tanks for the xenos race give more identity and differentiation between factions. It looks like non sense on space marines, same with jetbikes
@@jeancouscous Well, Jetbikes were a thing for Space Marines, so bringing those back wouldn't be so bad. Heck, Land Speeders are anti-grav.
Hey Val. Who are all these models watching your videos? 😂
I'm kinda a big deal.
@ChapterMasterValrak LOL! Yeah, you are bruz!!! It must be hard being a hansom man in the hobby
@@scelago_games each day I wake up thinking it’s just not fair on everyone else.
Thank you for being our games workshop representative.
Valrak being a self proclaimed space marine fan boy and still keeps calling Vanguard Veterans a fast attack option when they are clearly an elite option... 😂
He is a hype beast, who doesn't actually engage beyond the surface, when it comes to lore and the game.
@mk13ultra4th My man, I have been subscribed to Valrak for a long long time, I know exactly who he is. This is just banter.
lmao great bait and switch :)
Vanguard are fast attack, they STRIKE FROM THE SKY, BROTHER!
@@ChapterMasterValrak Your beloved 8th edition called and wants you to check the Codex 😜
@ Only n00bs trust the rules!
Are chaos legions like World Eaters and thousand sons getting new models?
They should be
Valrak’s video from last Monday went over the rumours for Thousand Sons
We need some new Space Shark models, more so Tyberos. Would make sense as the rumors for the 3rd book, are the chapter receiving Primaris reinforcements.
New Armpur scaled up would make sense if they keep Tactical and Devastator Squads
All they have to do is make mk7-8 to heresy scale, they'll fit perfect
If all the fast attack stuff arrives before 11th I wonder if the launch box for the new edition will have troops with the older armour marks.
Off the top of my head, devastators, assault terminators , and all the tank variants are the only first born stuff left ? (Not including fast attack). I'm interested to see how they will pad out the marine half, unless they bring back retired squads.
I don't collect orks but to my knowledge most of their range has been updated, so I wonder what they will get, if they are the antagonists of the edition.
When do you think the Thousand sons codex will drop? And do you think demons wont be restricted on points when fielding them with TS in detachments
Still no rumors what world eaters will get this edition? They needed a second release wave
Maybe they´ll make a Mk11 armour set for intercessors which is basically the mark 7 armour but primaris sized and maybe a few tweaks :D would be cool
Crimson Fists are the original poster boys. It’s time for them to take their rightful place back.
Imperial Fist successors being the poster boys twice but not the parent chapter once!!
#MakeImperialFistsGreatAgain
We probably aren't getting plastic desolators, which are basically heresy assault intercessors. They released a Melee upgrade kit which lets you just turn standard heresy marines into despoilers. But we need plastic kits of legion unique units so badly.
I wouldn't be surprised if GW sell two kits boxed in one as a new unit
Except their isnt enough bits in the box forva solud squad.
So the find the molds for those primaris suppressors? That would be some news... Like seriously where we getting those asides from scalpers these days in a box set or combat patrol...
I can already notice the results of the Wednesday streams. Keep up the great content mate.
We have all been saturnined gambited
Finally a rumour Monday with Pedro Kantor!
When are we going to see your custom Lysander painted up?
Anyone who doesn’t want to watch the video, please see my cliff notes: “Pedro Kantor confirmed”
"We need more successor chapter masters, [...] the Lysanders, the He'stans." Lol
The Crimson Fists deserve more love. They are the true heroes in blue the imperium needs.
Mk 9 would be cool, like a prototype for Primaris
With parts taken from each marks? Like studded helms or legs mk Iv chests or mk III if I’m making sense
I would KILL for a brand new Gabriel Seth model
They'll probably just let you buy it. I dont see GW switching to homocide-based transactions.
launching a new edition just months after the last codex comes out for 10th edition is really a kick in the teeth. Players should have at least a year to play with a codex before there is a new launch. Codexes need to come up much faster.
Can't believe Valrak said no new marines are coming, ever
So, we re finally getting that black templar ancient? Btw, LOL those "underwear" bot comments.
As a MASSIVE Minotaurs fan, I'd cream myself if we got a brand new Asterion Moloc Model.
My 1st Company Detachment needs its Chapter Master, And not just a Proxy.
I think that if he did make old armour for new marines would make for so much more fun and cool customisation tbh
All codexes by end of summer, will be insane since End of June is normally reserve for a "New edition" of their top game.
But we had 6 codexes in less than 4 months (March to June 2024). We will see!
Space Wolves in September will make sense, 2023 was Space Marines, 2024 was Blood Angels
It always a big "Space Marines" month
Maybe the Drop Pod is for chaos? 🤔
My Howling Griffons need Armand Titus back....Give me back a Chaplain Dreadnought!
I hope we get a new Pedro Kantor. I want to do Crimson Fists for 11th edition.
Gotta appreaciate the efford GW is putting in lately. Lots of big release waves and cool stuff people wanted for years👍
I'm totally down for "older mrks" of armour coming to modern models; I love the mk 4+6 for firstborns.
3:59 unless 11th edition isn't about Grey Knights, GW seems going to remaster several old Space Marines units like Tactical Squad, Devastator squad, Vanguard Veterans, HQ on bike, etc
Devestators would kind of be pointless at this point, hell blaster eradicators, infernos marines, desolation cover the devestators niche and work better.
I could see them doing lascanon squad and grav squad, maybe heavy bolter too.
@@lizadon0740 Heavy intercessor is almost your Heavy Bolter squad
We do indeed need a Lascannon and Grav squad. I will not be surprise if the 11th edition "basic troops in boxset" is a grav gun squad like the Infernus Squad in 10th
Valrak confirms new Pedro Kantor model! 😉
A new Lysandros model? that will be good!
cant wait for all of them tbh
is there any possibility the rumors for the marine armour types are not just more of the vairents for HH (as we only have 3 and 6 in the "truescale size and the 4 and both cataphractii and tartros needing re-scaleing) so we get the 2, 5 and a early version of 7? same with the drop pod and its not just a more sutable HH version?
Yeah but what about world eaters?
Ahhh, finally Pedro Kantor news 🗿
Great information 👍
Oops, you forgot to mention the Space Marines riding Zoats fast attack again Val!
who
All I want (need) are the Mark VII helmets. Anything else is a bonus
Ive been saying since Indominus that by 11th or 12th, there probably wont be a primaris or first born distinction. The newness of primaris just clashes with the aesthetics (and sales process) of 40k. You want relic armors and different mks running around and locking your biggest customer base out of a lot of customizing just doesnt make sense. Plus just how wide and varied the fandom is for different armors. Combined with that primaris models are too short for the lore. This was just a long way around of basically End Times to get marines players to replace and true scale their models without running everyone off.
We need better upgrade sprues too to add personality back, I like primaris but u also like the older models
I keep forgetting about the Fellblade, gawd damn GW please get that into Legions Imperialis asap. 😅
Any rumours for Ultramarines? From my understanding GW has a no model no rules policy. However Cato Sicarius has rules but no model (discontinued about 2-3 years ago now)
Its marines so they're exempt. Meanwhile eldar has one of their most important characters axed because they wont sell an old karandras, but wait dark angels sells a metal Ezekiel.
It would be nice to have a proper scale Tyberos model, not the same size as normal terminators.
If 11th is just 10.5 and books hold over then it can happen next summer or this autumn it doesn’t matter.
Tactical intercessor kit with Mark II, III, V, VI, VII & X helms and shoulders around a general Mark X Tacticus base would go so hard. I’m holding out hope.
First-born proportions were ugly (even if nostalgic, in the same goblin green bases were ugly but nostalgic), but variations in armour remains cool. Good move if they bring back a greater variety (especially if you can kitbash it nicely).
Primaris Ezekiel when 😢?
Give me the Raven Guard lore right now
Have a great week Slimrak!
You too, brother!
Be nice if the exorcist get some love
Breachers?! Don’t take my money.
yes "we need more Chapter Masters", like GABRIEL ANGELOS!!!!!
If they are redoing firstborn hopefully they look like the astartes series as it looks the coolest
we're still stuck with the lame pushfit outriders from the indomitus set it's awful
Hmm so Karandras isn’t hiding amongst the Beakie releases?
I’d be excited for new old style vented helmets from first born
I’d love to see a release of Justinian from the plague war trilogy I feel the nova marines could be cool
I don't think anyone wants him set in stone......I think they just want it in plastic!
They're finally acknowledging that primaris was a lore mcguffin to justify making you buy all new marine models
By chance, did you find any, formerly resin, now plastic Custodes units ?
Plastic custodes will come
Are they ever going to flesh out the Gravis range?
THEY’RE INSISTIN’ ON A CRIMSON FISTIN’!
More space marine rumors? Say it ain't so!
Ive put mk7 helmets on nearly all my primaris marines, so a mk7 updated box would be greatly appreciated 😅
monday madness!!!
We need a new book. Steve Parker, where ya at?
Las cannon squad is needed. Then grav cannon gravis squad
I doubt all codex out by summer. Maybe by end of year, votann need a wave of models too. That’s a lot of big release before summer
Just my opinion
Damn the porn bots going crazy
Is suddenly got a membership yesterday and I don’t know how. Can someone explain this to me?
He always gets people to gift memberships on his streams
Thanks for scamming us all, appreciate the content as always!
Anytime!
Confirmed primaris mk 11 armor = all armors