You, sir, are quite correct. I've collected planes for years. I have dozens upon dozens. Very probably into the triple digit range. I have a handful of infills, one of which (a smoothing plane, roundabouts 9"/24cm) is a Norris, though, in mine's case, required a non-trivial amount of restoration. Yours is truly the finest example I've seen to date. Positively flawless. That was either preserved in a vacuum, or cared for by someone who both truly loved it and knew HOW to (the wood infills demand different care than the enrobing steel, if you want to preserve that level of immaculate condition). The thing, I think, people fail to grasp about these over, say, their Stanley contemporaries is the MASS. True Rosewood weighs about 88lbs/cubic foot. To put this in perspective, BRICK weighs about 98lbs/cubic foot. So in the case of that jointer (you said it was 22") that's a Stanley no. 7... with THREE TO FOUR BRICKS stacked immovably atop it. The amount of stability and chatter-reduction that results in is not to be downplayed. Truly: that is a masterwork of art. You take care of the thing, pass it to your children or grandchildren, and you make DAMN sure they know what it is and why it's so important and valuable. Thanks for sharing!
I totally agree with you, your Norris is superb. The quality is beyond anything made today ( except maybe Holtey ) and the sheer heft makes using it an absolute dream - I am very jealous. Great video Bill.
Good God! You can hear how as it’s pushed it’s not stopping! It may have solid Rosewood infills but it’s sound as it cuts is even moreso solid! Thank you for uploading this, we all appreciate this ripper of a video demonstration. 👍
I think this is it - the most beautiful plane I've ever seen in my life. I think I'd do almost anything to have one of this quality. Incidentally, if you need anyone off'd just let me know, k? 😉
That is a thing of beauty. One of my grandfathers was a pattern maker and did his apprenticeship for 1921 to 1928 ish. He always said that the tool steel before the second world war was of far superior quality.
There are many different types of steel. The early tool steels were called crucible steel as that’s how they made it. Steel was a luxury material until Bessemer invented his “cook pot “. Silver steel is often a name given to 01 steel. High speed steels can withstand high temperatures which is why lathe tools are made of it. T1, M2 and M42 are examples. Most modern tool steels are powder multalurgy steels. Plane blades have unique requirements and 01 still stands as one of the best. A3 became popular with LN and it’s excellent for dies and other applications where wear resistance is needed but it doesn’t hold as keen an edge as 01. Many plane makers have tried stainless which makes a beautiful plane but it’s not suited to infills cuz of work hardening properties. Hot roll steel is garbage steel. It’s known as A36 and is not suited for infills. Stressproof or 1144 is more of a milling process than an alloy. 4140 is an awsome steel but often is overkill for planes. I can’t help but wonder if Norris used an early version of free machining steel with lead, sulpher or prosperous. These days the go to sheet is 1018 which is a low carbon, cold rolled steel. So our choices are better but more confusing. But this example of a Norris plane is perfection. It’s shape, history and performance are perfect. How can modern plane makers compete with perfection? When it comes to modern Bailey planes, I think Lie Nielsen had surpassed the older mad produced planes while keeping the design pure. For mid range planes, LN is my go to plane although they are hard to get right now in COVID land.
I own a 20” Pre-war Norris jointer as well but it was never as good condition as yours and it doesn’t have any adjuster. Yours look like straight out from the factory! Absolutely gorgeous
What about the Jointers you have made ? I have seen yours Bill and I have seen a Few Norris but if I had the Option , if only , I would opt for one by probably the Best Plane Maker ever and with out a thought I would take one of yours
@@billcarter2318 I think so , but that was many years ago I am certain that I saw one that you had shortened I also recall seeing one with Cupid Bow Dovetails Over the years I have seen many of your Planes and on each and every time have been taken back by the Quality and detail of them
What a gorgeous piece, amazing indeed. If I had a plane like that, I would take it to bed and hug it all night. You are a fortunate man, sir.
I very often have a plane on my knee at night.
You, sir, are quite correct. I've collected planes for years. I have dozens upon dozens. Very probably into the triple digit range. I have a handful of infills, one of which (a smoothing plane, roundabouts 9"/24cm) is a Norris, though, in mine's case, required a non-trivial amount of restoration.
Yours is truly the finest example I've seen to date. Positively flawless. That was either preserved in a vacuum, or cared for by someone who both truly loved it and knew HOW to (the wood infills demand different care than the enrobing steel, if you want to preserve that level of immaculate condition).
The thing, I think, people fail to grasp about these over, say, their Stanley contemporaries is the MASS. True Rosewood weighs about 88lbs/cubic foot. To put this in perspective, BRICK weighs about 98lbs/cubic foot. So in the case of that jointer (you said it was 22") that's a Stanley no. 7... with THREE TO FOUR BRICKS stacked immovably atop it. The amount of stability and chatter-reduction that results in is not to be downplayed.
Truly: that is a masterwork of art. You take care of the thing, pass it to your children or grandchildren, and you make DAMN sure they know what it is and why it's so important and valuable. Thanks for sharing!
Super stuff and top quality!
I totally agree with you, your Norris is superb. The quality is beyond anything made today ( except maybe Holtey ) and the sheer heft makes using it an absolute dream - I am very jealous. Great video Bill.
Is it normal if I had a tear in my eye when I first saw that beautiful beast?
Good God! You can hear how as it’s pushed it’s not stopping! It may have solid Rosewood infills but it’s sound as it cuts is even moreso solid! Thank you for uploading this, we all appreciate this ripper of a video demonstration. 👍
Exactly!
I think this is it - the most beautiful plane I've ever seen in my life. I think I'd do almost anything to have one of this quality. Incidentally, if you need anyone off'd just let me know, k? 😉
Would love to own one of those, It looks like it would out preform my number 7 Woodriver.
That is a thing of beauty. One of my grandfathers was a pattern maker and did his apprenticeship for 1921 to 1928 ish. He always said that the tool steel before the second world war was of far superior quality.
It certainly is.
There are many different types of steel. The early tool steels were called crucible steel as that’s how they made it. Steel was a luxury material until Bessemer invented his “cook pot “. Silver steel is often a name given to 01 steel. High speed steels can withstand high temperatures which is why lathe tools are made of it. T1, M2 and M42 are examples. Most modern tool steels are powder multalurgy steels. Plane blades have unique requirements and 01 still stands as one of the best. A3 became popular with LN and it’s excellent for dies and other applications where wear resistance is needed but it doesn’t hold as keen an edge as 01.
Many plane makers have tried stainless which makes a beautiful plane but it’s not suited to infills cuz of work hardening properties.
Hot roll steel is garbage steel. It’s known as A36 and is not suited for infills. Stressproof or 1144 is more of a milling process than an alloy. 4140 is an awsome steel but often is overkill for planes. I can’t help but wonder if Norris used an early version of free machining steel with lead, sulpher or prosperous. These days the go to sheet is 1018 which is a low carbon, cold rolled steel.
So our choices are better but more confusing.
But this example of a Norris plane is perfection. It’s shape, history and performance are perfect. How can modern plane makers compete with perfection?
When it comes to modern Bailey planes, I think Lie Nielsen had surpassed the older mad produced planes while keeping the design pure. For mid range planes, LN is my go to plane although they are hard to get right now in COVID land.
That’s because everyone has money until a war erupts, and then all that steel has to go to the army. And we get the left over junk 😂
Good heavens! It’s absolutely perfect!
I own a 20” Pre-war Norris jointer as well but it was never as good condition as yours and it doesn’t have any adjuster. Yours look like straight out from the factory! Absolutely gorgeous
Wow! What a beauty
Utterly gorgeous.
These planes are stunning.
Beautiful!
I honestly think that if I owned that plane I would just spend the afternoon taking wafer thins off of a scrap, just to hear and feel it working.
What about the Jointers you have made ? I have seen yours Bill and I have seen a Few Norris but if I had the Option , if only , I would opt for one by probably the Best Plane Maker ever and with out a thought I would take one of yours
Have you seen the 36" jointers that I made.
@@billcarter2318 I think so , but that was many years ago
I am certain that I saw one that you had shortened
I also recall seeing one with Cupid Bow Dovetails
Over the years I have seen many of your Planes and on each and every time have been taken back by the Quality and detail of them
Norris is a work or art!
Bill cat costa un cutit Norris pentru o rindea?doar Cutitul