the insights I get from listening to two absolute professionals without the sensationalism for clicks is absolutely a breath of fresh air and reality. I loved Banks when he was playing, and Papa's years of football analysis makes them exactly what we need, especially during a dertha of winning seasons. The Giants are not far off, and I look forward to listening to this duo for years to come.
I’ve always liked listening to Bob & Carl calling the games on audio. I’m a lifetime Giants fan, born in Brooklyn. My education took me to finding a career in Texas. Whether it was Papa’s Perspective, or the post-game show Carl did w/ John Schmelk, (and now Beleav in Giants) I have enjoyed listening to both of you for over since I was old enough to root for the Giants. I am now 71 years old and plan on listening to you for as long as you are on the air. Thank you guys for letting me “see” the different facets of the game through streaming / radio!
I really appreciate you Bob Papa and Carl Bank's. Truly insightful. With all the facts broken down so that anyone could comprehend the business and insight into the league that everyday fans would not understand. Peace be with you. Go Giants
Thank you Bob for giving DJ the respect he deserves. To make a golf analogy you can have a great game and still shoot some bad scores. Next you find something and you start shooting lights out. Most importantly you nailed it this guy was a stand up dude in a very tough market. There were a lot of #26 haters he’s injury prone he’s old now he is having an MVP season with a rival. DJ I am a fan and this might be the best thing for you. Go get a fresh start and kill it. Thank you for 22 and being a pro. You are a rare breed to always take the high road. All the best to you and your family! DK
It’s easy to enter this type of breakdown of the situation thinking there will be some minced words or extreme bias due to their ties with the Giants - but this was the most sensible, fair, and honest commentary on the matter. Big ups to Popa and Carl for staying genuine with their takes and offering nuanced insight that other outlets simply don’t have 🙌
Thank you for keeping it real! There's a reason why I love listening to you both. More refreshing and honest then those that spread negative comments and points of views. Questioning the committeement of certain player's and coaches! They lack respect. I commend your professionalism. There's a right way and a wrong way. You gentlemen both do a superior job. Although my boys have asked why Mr. Banks is upset and saying no no words. I'm not complaining. I just tell them when you're passionate about something sometimes you say those things. You help give life lessons as well. In many cases. Like being a general manager and making tough decisions. Great way to explain that. Great insider perspectives. Thank you for being real and believing in blue. Go Giant's
As I have said, Carl and Bob have the best video on You Tube about the New York Giants. It is mature, intelligent, and respectful. Because their video is of the highest quality, I have saved myself hours not listening to other videos. Who can have more insight about the Giants than Bob Papa and Carl Banks? Thank you, Bob and Carl for not hating Daniel Jones, who has always been a class act in every respect. Carl, If John Mara and Steve Tisch fire Joe Schoen, I hope you become the Giants' GM. (Of course, someone will have to run your business.) Bob, I remember when you replaced from Jim Gordon. You were so good that fans wanted you to immediately replace him. You were embarrassed at the time. Exercise and eat right so you can continue announcing Giants' games for decades more.
Bob and Carl are the best. They convey all the inside information while at the same time being totally objective. I agree with Bob‘s assessment of Daniel Jones‘s career. He is not the same quarterback he was when he started. I think he has the football version of post traumatic stress disorder. He still possesses the physical tools. Going back to Bob and Carl their podcast is great, and so is their play-by-play on the radio, which I listen to when I’m at the stadium for Home games and watching on TV for road games.
You two are my favorite voices when it comes to finding clarity and reason when it comes to breaking down our NY Giants team. Thank you for all your continued service to the organization and to the fans.
Call me blind or nuts , but ever since I saw Tommy play , I thought he showed more confidence as an NFL QB, than Daniel ever did! He ran thr ball as well, he threw the ball better and was 1 & 1 In Primtime! Then Mara burried him by having him benched for Tyrod ! Jones has done far worse than Devito and just benched one time in his sad career !
Reasonable, thoughtful, knowledgeable observation. They speak well, don't butcher the English language, and they don't yell. Why do so many NY Sports gorillas shout? Anyway, kudos to Bob and Carl. Great work - keep it up.
As a Giants fan, this is where I go when I'm about to lose my mind. Bob and Carl always break things down in a knowledgeable and professional manner. This particular episode is the very best analysis of the Daniel Jones situation I have watched. It answered a lot of questions, particularly why they made the change to DeVito. I've been a vocal supporter of DJ for a long time. I wanted him to succeed here. I hope he is successful in his next chapter in the NFL. But I also understand and support why DeVito is now getting his chance. Let's go Giants!
I’ve said it before that this is the best giants podcast since podcasts became relevant. Thank you Bob Papa and thank you Carl Banks for constantly doing this week after week and in the offseason for doing this for re-invigorating us as giants fans whether it’s with a win or a loss. Pleas keep this going until you decide to stop because it helps us a giants fans realize what’s truly important
Love you guys, been a fan since Fran Tarkenton and Norm Snead...this will be my team no matter what...my mom met Harry Carson who is a consumate gentleman...podcast is informative and wonderfully candid, hugs and blessings 🙌
Bob Papa and Carl Banks are the only commentary that is really worth listening to. They provide insight and viewpoints that are without bias. I never feel that they’re trying to convince me that management is always right and are without fault. Just hoping for better results. Just to add I’ve been following the Giants since 1956 and have been a season ticket holder since 1976
Bob Papa hit the nail on the head with Daniel Jones. I was disappointed this year but truth is Daniel gave it his all. I never remember Giants fans seeing so much such hate on one player and I remember the Dave Brown and Kent Graham.
@@anthonyinnocenzi1075 he gave it his all… let’s hang his jersey in the rafters why don’t we. I remember how we talked about Tony romo not winning in big games and making fun of Dallas. But Tony put numbers up and won games even though he didn’t win the big one but he gave it his all right…. What’s that mean??? Jones gave it his all and it wasn’t good enough. Good freakin bye. Year after year hearing this jones defenders when the bum throws 11 10 15 8 tds a season…. Oh he gave it his all…. Good bye!
@terrencethomas4787 I agree on the sentiment: What does that mean for one to give it his all? To me the sentiment: To give it his all means that one qualifies themselves a hard worker at their respected company and in light of one's effort and the effort put forth does not or has not added any noteworthy value that at the end either garned new customers or retained the customers one already have.
Yeah guys he gave it his all and he still is trash! Yeah, 8 TDs and 7 INTs in 10 games in the 6th year while the O-Line improved and a #1 WR and other decent wrs, + a really good rookie RB in Tracy, yeah! He such a great guy, he works so hard lets all line up and give him a hug and a kiss. This is an example of a pathetic culture of participation trophies that has become weak all around. Trash gets taken out to the curb ASAP not allow it to pile up like the Giants have done here with this clown. Hate? The clown boy is a loser plain as day. i hope he is forgotten in Giants history and is never talked about again. Put a fathead of him in your room and kiss it on the lips everyday for me would ya
@@NightCapper13 that’s what I am talkin about!!!!! Did we just become best friends???? YUP lol. Seriously I don’t get the whole thing. It’s weird. People are sad???? Why? It’s an end of an era??? Ish sucked! The eagles are a far superior organization compared to us and I hate to say that. They had wentz who was a mvp before the injury. 2nd overall pick! And they moved on from him. The Giants keep Danny asscheeks for 6 pathetic years! Now people are sad he’s not starting???? What am I missing
...Papa and Banks are absolutely right. Giants don't tank, not even in the last game of the season. There was a game against Washington at the end of the season that the Giants fought to overtime and won. which hurt them in the draft. Giants don't tank.
DJ became a quarterback that was gun-shy and afraid inside the pocket because of lack of trust throughout the years.The hits and pressure mounted up which effected his play and decision making.That is a hard thing to change or ever get back once it happens.It is why drafting the right quarterback out of college is extremely difficult.The game is so very different even with all the changes to protect the quarterback.DJ was never a quarterback looking to protect himself so the hits and trauma he absorbed,the brain never forgot.Sometimes time and a new opportunity or adventure at something you still love becomes an answer if given the chance.
I agree jones is a good guy and all i ever heard was how hard he worked. As a fan i truly wish it had worked out. But it hasnt and 6 years is way too long to work on somebody. Im releived that we are finally turning the page
Yur right.yu can tell hes a good guy but this league wants wins not nice guys..so i sort of feel bad fr him because its not all his fault .hes just a victim of a bad franchise..
Losing is a mindset just like winning is a mindset. Carl referred to Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. Tomlin has built a winning mindset in that his players make plays that help win games instead of losing games like the Giants do. I understand fans want to lose so we get a great draft pick but if the team has a losing mindset that player even if it's the QB they want will not turn things around. The Giants need to win these last 7 games so they have a different mindset coming into next season.
I totally agree with the Play to win mindset and the Tomlin references...strive for a standard of excellence and let the chips fall were they may...a higher or lower draft pick guarantees nothing in this league
Guys, great perspective as always. You are absolutely right, the team cannot tank, especially if the HC is sticking around. This young team needs to grow and learn together, and develop together. There is a lot more improvement needed on an individual player level for them to slack off. As a professional how can you not continue to play hard and perfect your craft?
I've been a Giant fan since 3-12-1 Tuna's first season that was almost his last so I can take ugly wins and losses..The Daniel Jones era is done but I will not burn the jersey I bought the day after he got drafted...no one should cheer a man losing a job whether he was the right choice or not...Good Luck Danny Dimes in your next endeavor.. that being said, DJ regressed badly. Not even as a rookie did he look broken like he has this season... He was supposed to be accurate good ball placement good deep ball accuracy none of which were present in a consistent down- by- down basis. Now let's start the X Champaign to get Carl Banks #58 in the HOF like or reply if you feel as I do...
You guys are awesome. I gotta say through all these bad years I still take the time out to listen to this podcast because no matter how bad things are you both give great perspectives and back it up with Carl's experience of playing and Bob's knowledge of the history and stats. I always walk away with some kind of hope for this team even when feels like a dumpster fire haha. Also I learn alot here. Plus you guys remind the fans of the human aspect of the player, in other words how badly fans treated Jones earlier in the season and how fans should think about there Fandom. Also the the human aspect thst these guys want to win and the team is not purposely tanking. Great job and thank you for all you do!
You guys are the best. Always look forward to hearing you. I wish I could listen to your live broadcast at the games. Plus keep it up. Giants forever !!
Review love u guys season ticket holder listen every game to you guys makes me comfortable during the & these podcasts are icing on the cake . Look forward to them
Lifelong Giants fan. Papa and Banks are Giant icons their analysis is well-paced, thoughtful and highly respected. But fellas, c'mon. Lose the gambling sponsors. It diminishes your content and with solid reputations as yours, surely you can find more reputable products to endorse. Gambling ads are the same as cigarette ads.
Neither the players nor the team will lose intentionally. Starting DeVito is being described as a Tank move by national media, but not by the beat reporters. I wonder why that is? Maybe because the people who actually know and watch this team, have a better understanding of what’s going on here.
Tommy Meatballs !!! Use him and his clown agent to make a circus of it like Jake Paul does in boxing !! Why not ? Dress Tommy’s agent in silly costumes, play “Sopranos” music and make it a show !!
I'm a 48 yr fan and the NY Giants are now a full blown clown show. They believe the fans are dumb and will shovel out their money for Tommy, without the booing. The GM and HC make stupid mistakes, time and time again. Very sad!!
These guys are absolutely right that Jones was looking great but something happened. I think it was concussions myself, that would explain the inability to see the field quickly. But I'm not a Dr so now it's DeVito time. Let's hope Tommy turns out to be more than just a good backup. Let's hope he can learn to carry this team and be that undrafted QB that does it all.
This is all true he is a tough guy but it's not only about being tough in the NFL you got to get it done it's about production and he don't have production
Absolutely love you guys but wish you would follow your advice to the Giants and be more consistent. The podcast pops up all over the place, Tue, Wed Fri, hard to tell when to find you.
If constantly losing and getting high draft picks meant anything then the cleveland browns and oakland raiders would have had dynasties the past 20 years
This QB draft is thin you will not see 6 in the top 12. You might only see 3 in round 1. If the raiders and titans are ahead of New York or maybe the browns also you will not get a qb.
Im happy man, I really hope Vito is the next Brock Purdy, I want him to be our QB1 for good and he can do it if he wins games but if not we'll draft a QB, so its a win win for me
Jones should be starting. This gm and hc has to go. Jones is going to go to a real team and ball out. I've never missed a giant game in 63 years but I'm done with them
Blame the starter, not the league-leading drops and fumbles. Thereafter, play the 3rd string QB over the 2nd string QB, but it is not tanking. I don't trust this GM, and HC will pick the next QB. Hopefully, Tommy DeVito will play lights out.
You tell it how it is. I was hoping he would work out. But we need a guy with some attitude in there Brady like. The no 4th comebacks this year is what the giants need the fighting and clawing to get a win. WE ARE NOT A BAD TEAM
OMG Do I have to hear the ballad of Daniel Jones like we should feel bad that he's benched? He was paid over $100 million for next to nothing in return, Bob. He's going to be just fine. Byyyeee
uh.. correction if they felt they "owed it to the fans to win" they wouldve made the move when we still had a chance at saving the season.. they waited until the fan base completely gave up on the season to make a change.. they werent thinking about the fan base AT ALL!!!!
I believe DJ has all of the abilities you need to be a very good QB. And he shows it regularly. It's in the big moments. Crunch time that he disappears. Or gives the ball away. He'll probably go somewhere and look very good because that's just how it goes for us Giants fans now but you have to respect him. As Bob said, he gave it 3verything
I blame the whole organization to leave him in this long....not DJ...this really affected the whole team this year by leaving DJ in...he only should of been in 3 times this year and let him go by then...Well hope there's there's no more excuses after this!
If I got paid by the organization I’d have a hard time saying anything bad about who’s in charge as well , I don’t blame yall . Regime hasn’t done a damn thing to prove themselves but this is the Giants way , pretend like we have the right people until everything blows up . Nothing in real time . Set back after set back
At this point no matter how many games they win and where they land in the draft order they have put themselves in a situation where if they are able to they will have to move up whatever it takes and unfortunately it may set them back a bit but they have no choice because of the front office decision they've made so this discussion of benching Jones and starting Devito is a useless conversation the Giants are in a build not necessarily a rebuild because they do have a few pieces that could possibly be part of the future
As for Barkley, I really don't think he would be having the kind of season he's having if he stayed with the Giants. He would be hurt and on the sidelines by now. This move was great for Barkley and for the Giants.
I wouldn't go that far. They can't stop the run, they have trouble tackling and their DBs can't cover anyone and NEVER get interceptions. And they avoid the end zone as if it'll give them disease. This season has 2-15 written all over it.
He is what he's always been. He was always slow to read with bad pocket presence. Which is why he had 19 fumbles in 12 games rookie yr. And schemed quick short throws in 2022.
I like these two guys, but first they’re saying the Giants play to win, but then say the best QB of the three (their words) is not playing because of the $23M. It can’t be both.
I am a Giant Fan from the 1950’s and it all ended with he Benching of DJ. This organization sucks and I will not come back until they quit giving into the Crooked media
They should of done this after the second game there of the playoffs now the do it senseless now there gonna mess their draft I like devito but let's face it he not a franchise quarterback.you know that Devito brings joy and energy I know that but he's not a number 1 quarterback..
Bob Papa and Carl Banks are light years ahead of the other Sports Shows and Analysts.....
These two gentlemen are truly the best!
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We Love Bob & Carl !
The only guys who i listen to abt big blue
the insights I get from listening to two absolute professionals without the sensationalism for clicks is absolutely a breath of fresh air and reality. I loved Banks when he was playing, and Papa's years of football analysis makes them exactly what we need, especially during a dertha of winning seasons. The Giants are not far off, and I look forward to listening to this duo for years to come.
I’ve always liked listening to Bob & Carl calling the games on audio. I’m a lifetime Giants fan, born in Brooklyn. My education took me to finding a career in Texas. Whether it was Papa’s Perspective, or the post-game show Carl did w/ John Schmelk, (and now Beleav in Giants) I have enjoyed listening to both of you for over since I was old enough to root for the Giants. I am now 71 years old and plan on listening to you for as long as you are on the air. Thank you guys for letting me “see” the different facets of the game through streaming / radio!
They're the best !
I really appreciate you Bob Papa and Carl Bank's. Truly insightful. With all the facts broken down so that anyone could comprehend the business and insight into the league that everyday fans would not understand. Peace be with you. Go Giants
Thank you Bob for giving DJ the respect he deserves. To make a golf analogy you can have a great game and still shoot some bad scores. Next you find something and you start shooting lights out. Most importantly you nailed it this guy was a stand up dude in a very tough market. There were a lot of #26 haters he’s injury prone he’s old now he is having an MVP season with a rival. DJ I am a fan and this might be the best thing for you. Go get a fresh start and kill it. Thank you for 22 and being a pro. You are a rare breed to always take the high road. All the best to you and your family! DK
Always a great perspective, That's way I always tune in.
Carl and Bob great job, keep up the fantastic work....#58
It’s easy to enter this type of breakdown of the situation thinking there will be some minced words or extreme bias due to their ties with the Giants - but this was the most sensible, fair, and honest commentary on the matter. Big ups to Popa and Carl for staying genuine with their takes and offering nuanced insight that other outlets simply don’t have 🙌
You guys are great: professional, measured, fair and knowledgable. Many podcasts are not ANY of those things. Thanks!
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Thanks for listening!
They are the best
Thank you for keeping it real! There's a reason why I love listening to you both. More refreshing and honest then those that spread negative comments and points of views. Questioning the committeement of certain player's and coaches! They lack respect. I commend your professionalism. There's a right way and a wrong way. You gentlemen both do a superior job. Although my boys have asked why Mr. Banks is upset and saying no no words. I'm not complaining. I just tell them when you're passionate about something sometimes you say those things. You help give life lessons as well. In many cases. Like being a general manager and making tough decisions. Great way to explain that. Great insider perspectives. Thank you for being real and believing in blue. Go Giant's
As I have said, Carl and Bob have the best video on You Tube about the New York Giants. It is mature, intelligent, and respectful. Because their video is of the highest quality, I have saved myself hours not listening to other videos. Who can have more insight about the Giants than Bob Papa and Carl Banks? Thank you, Bob and Carl for not hating Daniel Jones, who has always been a class act in every respect. Carl, If John Mara and Steve Tisch fire Joe Schoen, I hope you become the Giants' GM. (Of course, someone will have to run your business.) Bob, I remember when you replaced from Jim Gordon. You were so good that fans wanted you to immediately replace him. You were embarrassed at the time. Exercise and eat right so you can continue announcing Giants' games for decades more.
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Bob and Carl are the best. They convey all the inside information while at the same time being totally objective. I agree with Bob‘s assessment of Daniel Jones‘s career. He is not the same quarterback he was when he started. I think he has the football version of post traumatic stress disorder. He still possesses the physical tools. Going back to Bob and Carl their podcast is great, and so is their play-by-play on the radio, which I listen to when I’m at the stadium for Home games and watching on TV for road games.
The best
I'm glad I found this podcast! Keep these coming!
Thanks for the support !
Papa and Banks love you guys straight to the point and no bull crap in between
Bob and Carl are the best in a crowded business. I've been listening to them since the beginning. Keep it up guys.
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We don’t need a top draft QB, we need to properly mold a QB
@@Floyd_Rage3612 Agreed!!! And I pray that they do not draft Sanders!!
I believe that would be a HUGE MISTAKE!!!
You two are my favorite voices when it comes to finding clarity and reason when it comes to breaking down our NY Giants team. Thank you for all your continued service to the organization and to the fans.
Call me blind or nuts , but ever since I saw Tommy play , I thought he showed more confidence as an NFL QB, than Daniel ever did! He ran thr ball as well, he threw the ball better and was 1 & 1 In Primtime! Then Mara burried him by having him benched for Tyrod ! Jones has done far worse than Devito and just benched one time in his sad career !
Reasonable, thoughtful, knowledgeable observation. They speak well, don't butcher the English language, and they don't yell. Why do so many NY Sports gorillas shout? Anyway, kudos to Bob and Carl. Great work - keep it up.
As a Giants fan, this is where I go when I'm about to lose my mind. Bob and Carl always break things down in a knowledgeable and professional manner. This particular episode is the very best analysis of the Daniel Jones situation I have watched. It answered a lot of questions, particularly why they made the change to DeVito. I've been a vocal supporter of DJ for a long time. I wanted him to succeed here. I hope he is successful in his next chapter in the NFL. But I also understand and support why DeVito is now getting his chance. Let's go Giants!
Great conversation I'm so happy that Bob and Carl went in the Eagles tank job with Doug Pederson
I’ve said it before that this is the best giants podcast since podcasts became relevant. Thank you Bob Papa and thank you Carl Banks for constantly doing this week after week and in the offseason for doing this for re-invigorating us as giants fans whether it’s with a win or a loss. Pleas keep this going until you decide to stop because it helps us a giants fans realize what’s truly important
Great Job as always.
Love you guys, been a fan since Fran Tarkenton and Norm Snead...this will be my team no matter what...my mom met Harry Carson who is a consumate gentleman...podcast is informative and wonderfully candid, hugs and blessings 🙌
Well handled Gentlemen.
Bob Papa and Carl Banks are the only commentary that is really worth listening to. They provide insight and viewpoints that are without bias. I never feel that they’re trying to convince me that management is always right and are without fault. Just hoping for better results.
Just to add I’ve been following the Giants since 1956 and have been a season ticket holder since 1976
You guys are always a class act!🎉
Bob Papa hit the nail on the head with Daniel Jones. I was disappointed this year but truth is Daniel gave it his all. I never remember Giants fans seeing so much such hate on one player and I remember the Dave Brown and Kent Graham.
@@anthonyinnocenzi1075 he gave it his all… let’s hang his jersey in the rafters why don’t we. I remember how we talked about Tony romo not winning in big games and making fun of Dallas. But Tony put numbers up and won games even though he didn’t win the big one but he gave it his all right…. What’s that mean??? Jones gave it his all and it wasn’t good enough. Good freakin bye. Year after year hearing this jones defenders when the bum throws 11 10 15 8 tds a season…. Oh he gave it his all…. Good bye!
@terrencethomas4787 I agree on the sentiment: What does that mean for one to give it his all?
To me the sentiment: To give it his all means that one qualifies themselves a hard worker at their respected company and in light of one's effort and the effort put forth does not or has not added any noteworthy value that at the end either garned new customers or retained the customers one already have.
Yeah guys he gave it his all and he still is trash! Yeah, 8 TDs and 7 INTs in 10 games in the 6th year while the O-Line improved and a #1 WR and other decent wrs, + a really good rookie RB in Tracy, yeah! He such a great guy, he works so hard lets all line up and give him a hug and a kiss. This is an example of a pathetic culture of participation trophies that has become weak all around. Trash gets taken out to the curb ASAP not allow it to pile up like the Giants have done here with this clown.
Hate? The clown boy is a loser plain as day. i hope he is forgotten in Giants history and is never talked about again. Put a fathead of him in your room and kiss it on the lips everyday for me would ya
@@NightCapper13 that’s what I am talkin about!!!!! Did we just become best friends???? YUP lol. Seriously I don’t get the whole thing. It’s weird. People are sad???? Why? It’s an end of an era??? Ish sucked! The eagles are a far superior organization compared to us and I hate to say that. They had wentz who was a mvp before the injury. 2nd overall pick! And they moved on from him. The Giants keep Danny asscheeks for 6 pathetic years! Now people are sad he’s not starting???? What am I missing
...Papa and Banks are absolutely right. Giants don't tank, not even in the last game of the season. There was a game against Washington at the end of the season that the Giants fought to overtime and won. which hurt them in the draft. Giants don't tank.
DJ became a quarterback that was gun-shy and afraid inside the pocket because of lack of trust throughout the years.The hits and pressure mounted up which effected his play and decision making.That is a hard thing to change or ever get back once it happens.It is why drafting the right quarterback out of college is extremely difficult.The game is so very different even with all the changes to protect the quarterback.DJ was never a quarterback looking to protect himself so the hits and trauma he absorbed,the brain never forgot.Sometimes time and a new opportunity or adventure at something you still love becomes an answer if given the chance.
Very good Bob and Carl, I like the ending ! Thank you. Great review
This is an All Pro Podcast packed with expert football knowledge.
I agree jones is a good guy and all i ever heard was how hard he worked. As a fan i truly wish it had worked out. But it hasnt and 6 years is way too long to work on somebody. Im releived that we are finally turning the page
Yur right.yu can tell hes a good guy but this league wants wins not nice guys..so i sort of feel bad fr him because its not all his fault .hes just a victim of a bad franchise..
I like your level headed views. That's why I listen.
Losing is a mindset just like winning is a mindset. Carl referred to Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. Tomlin has built a winning mindset in that his players make plays that help win games instead of losing games like the Giants do. I understand fans want to lose so we get a great draft pick but if the team has a losing mindset that player even if it's the QB they want will not turn things around. The Giants need to win these last 7 games so they have a different mindset coming into next season.
You Bob+Carl are my go to show👍💯
I totally agree with the Play to win mindset and the Tomlin references...strive for a standard of excellence and let the chips fall were they may...a higher or lower draft pick guarantees nothing in this league
Guys, great perspective as always. You are absolutely right, the team cannot tank, especially if the HC is sticking around. This young team needs to grow and learn together, and develop together. There is a lot more improvement needed on an individual player level for them to slack off. As a professional how can you not continue to play hard and perfect your craft?
Bob and Carl know what they're talking about and are always on the money! ✌🏻
I've been a Giant fan since 3-12-1 Tuna's first season that was almost his last so I can take ugly wins and losses..The Daniel Jones era is done but I will not burn the jersey I bought the day after he got drafted...no one should cheer a man losing a job whether he was the right choice or not...Good Luck Danny Dimes in your next endeavor.. that being said, DJ regressed badly. Not even as a rookie did he look broken like he has this season... He was supposed to be accurate good ball placement good deep ball accuracy none of which were present in a consistent down- by- down basis. Now let's start the X Champaign to get Carl Banks #58 in the HOF like or reply if you feel as I do...
You guys are awesome. I gotta say through all these bad years I still take the time out to listen to this podcast because no matter how bad things are you both give great perspectives and back it up with Carl's experience of playing and Bob's knowledge of the history and stats. I always walk away with some kind of hope for this team even when feels like a dumpster fire haha. Also I learn alot here. Plus you guys remind the fans of the human aspect of the player, in other words how badly fans treated Jones earlier in the season and how fans should think about there Fandom. Also the the human aspect thst these guys want to win and the team is not purposely tanking. Great job and thank you for all you do!
You guys are the best. Always look forward to hearing you. I wish I could listen to your live broadcast at the games. Plus keep it up. Giants forever !!
Review love u guys season ticket holder listen every game to you guys makes me comfortable during the & these podcasts are icing on the cake . Look forward to them
Lifelong Giants fan. Papa and Banks are Giant icons their analysis is well-paced, thoughtful and highly respected.
But fellas, c'mon. Lose the gambling sponsors. It diminishes your content and with solid reputations as yours, surely you can find more reputable products to endorse.
Gambling ads are the same as cigarette ads.
Neither the players nor the team will lose intentionally. Starting DeVito is being described as a Tank move by national media, but not by the beat reporters. I wonder why that is? Maybe because the people who actually know and watch this team, have a better understanding of what’s going on here.
Tommy Meatballs !!! Use him and his clown agent to make a circus of it like Jake Paul does in boxing !! Why not ?
Dress Tommy’s agent in silly costumes, play “Sopranos” music and make it a show !!
I'm a 48 yr fan and the NY Giants are now a full blown clown show. They believe the fans are dumb and will shovel out their money for Tommy, without the booing. The GM and HC make stupid mistakes, time and time again. Very sad!!
These guys are absolutely right that Jones was looking great but something happened. I think it was concussions myself, that would explain the inability to see the field quickly. But I'm not a Dr so now it's DeVito time.
Let's hope Tommy turns out to be more than just a good backup. Let's hope he can learn to carry this team and be that undrafted QB that does it all.
DJ hasn't looked great in the 4 years at Duke or the 6 years in NY. Not sure what any of y'all are watching.
If Jones played winning football we wouldn't be talking about this!
This is all true he is a tough guy but it's not only about being tough in the NFL you got to get it done it's about production and he don't have production
2-15 sounds good right now. tankathon is on!
The Giants defense is suffering from their offense "stupidity".
Absolutely love you guys but wish you would follow your advice to the Giants and be more consistent. The podcast pops up all over the place, Tue, Wed Fri, hard to tell when to find you.
Thank You for calling out Misinformation Bob. Rannan is a clown and you can tell GM and coach are annoyed
I like Papa's GM Jerry Reese story!
If constantly losing and getting high draft picks meant anything then the cleveland browns and oakland raiders would have had dynasties the past 20 years
Actually very true!!!
9:05 Terry Mcurlin
Appreciate both of your opinions & great content. DJ thank you for your hardworking attitude & you always kept fighting for us, well wishes for you.
This QB draft is thin you will not see 6 in the top 12. You might only see 3 in round 1. If the raiders and titans are ahead of New York or maybe the browns also you will not get a qb.
At least we're not the Jets I guess. :( I'll be at the Bucs game with my dad.
I miss the small helmet large pads era...
Im happy man, I really hope Vito is the next Brock Purdy, I want him to be our QB1 for good and he can do it if he wins games but if not we'll draft a QB, so its a win win for me
Giants will be back on top of the mountain just wait this is the first step to the future
Jones should be starting. This gm and hc has to go. Jones is going to go to a real team and ball out. I've never missed a giant game in 63 years but I'm done with them
One of the biggest DJ supporters l hate to say it but he's not the guy it's nothing physical but mentally the kid is shot
Blame the starter, not the league-leading drops and fumbles. Thereafter, play the 3rd string QB over the 2nd string QB, but it is not tanking. I don't trust this GM, and HC will pick the next QB. Hopefully, Tommy DeVito will play lights out.
If they keep losing, Schoen and Daboll may not be around for the 2025 draft.
Yea Jones still sucks
I do blame jones for some of those drops when he’s throwing the ball behind receivers
Better thrown balls arent dropped. Get a clue
@davidburks4657…. Who led the league in drops last year??? Oh yea the champion chiefs! Please stop makin excuses for the bum called jones
You tell it how it is. I was hoping he would work out. But we need a guy with some attitude in there Brady like. The no 4th comebacks this year is what the giants need the fighting and clawing to get a win. WE ARE NOT A BAD TEAM
OMG Do I have to hear the ballad of Daniel Jones like we should feel bad that he's benched? He was paid over $100 million for next to nothing in return, Bob. He's going to be just fine. Byyyeee
As true as this is I don't care. I want my Franchise QB!
Right now, we're in the running for the #1 draft pick. Tommy, don't screw that up!
Long overdue!! End of an error!! Giant fans deserve better god damn it!
Lot of people act like DJ forced the Giants to pay him & stole from them. Whatever happened to buyer beware
He is a selfish man who deserves all the hate he gets and way more
uh.. correction if they felt they "owed it to the fans to win" they wouldve made the move when we still had a chance at saving the season.. they waited until the fan base completely gave up on the season to make a change.. they werent thinking about the fan base AT ALL!!!!
I believe DJ has all of the abilities you need to be a very good QB. And he shows it regularly. It's in the big moments. Crunch time that he disappears. Or gives the ball away. He'll probably go somewhere and look very good because that's just how it goes for us Giants fans now but you have to respect him. As Bob said, he gave it 3verything
When Carl talks. Listen
always
Very good as always...But, I do disagree with them on DJ, sorry but bring back him as QB was very big mistake.
Nobody asked your opinion, COUCH POTATO!
Two things can be true at the same time. I always root for the Giants to win, but it is a good thing if they lose for the rest of this season.
Bob... Carl... I told you so.
I blame the whole organization to leave him in this long....not DJ...this really affected the whole team this year by leaving DJ in...he only should of been in 3 times this year and let him go by then...Well hope there's there's no more excuses after this!
If I got paid by the organization I’d have a hard time saying anything bad about who’s in charge as well , I don’t blame yall . Regime hasn’t done a damn thing to prove themselves but this is the Giants way , pretend like we have the right people until everything blows up . Nothing in real time . Set back after set back
At this point no matter how many games they win and where they land in the draft order they have put themselves in a situation where if they are able to they will have to move up whatever it takes and unfortunately it may set them back a bit but they have no choice because of the front office decision they've made so this discussion of benching Jones and starting Devito is a useless conversation the Giants are in a build not necessarily a rebuild because they do have a few pieces that could possibly be part of the future
I remember that calculated move by Doug Peterson. I’m glad he was fired. And he’s getting fired again. Karma…lol.
As for Barkley, I really don't think he would be having the kind of season he's having if he stayed with the Giants. He would be hurt and on the sidelines by now. This move was great for Barkley and for the Giants.
Great for Barkley & the Eagles. Definitely wasn't great for the Giants & especially Joe Shame.
Don’t be surprised if they go four and three on the rest of the season. This roster is too talented for them to lose out.
I wouldn't go that far. They can't stop the run, they have trouble tackling and their DBs can't cover anyone and NEVER get interceptions. And they avoid the end zone as if it'll give them disease. This season has 2-15 written all over it.
Tough week ahead for the Giants
Carl…Carl…Carl…Mike Tomlin wouldn’t be in this situation, he’s never had a losing season.
I Love And Respect You Two guys
Daniel jones has regressed horribly! You can see it in his play! He is slow getting rid of the ball! 🤦♂️
He is what he's always been. He was always slow to read with bad pocket presence. Which is why he had 19 fumbles in 12 games rookie yr. And schemed quick short throws in 2022.
No doubt Danny played with all his Guts . I’ll tip the cap also . NFL is Way tougher than one thinks
Enjoy the podcast! Go Giants!
“It was time for Tommy Devito” is never a true statement unless I’m ordering a pizza
THE RESULTS DEMAND THAT JOE SCHOEN ANSNBRIAN DABOL BE FIRED
I like these two guys, but first they’re saying the Giants play to win, but then say the best QB of the three (their words) is not playing because of the $23M. It can’t be both.
He shouldn’t of even been drafted
FACTS!!!!
They say your dad shouldn't have gotten drafted
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If he was picked at 30 instead of DeAndre Baker, that would have been fine. It was a bad yr for QBs. Passing up OLB Josh Allen for Jones stings.
Carl Washington traded off there 2 top edge rushers, clearly they were selling off pieces thinking about there future.
Tank. I dont give a sh!t about anything but a new QB.
The people defending Jones are insane. The guy STINKS. It's over.
I disagree with Carl on carry over wins. Jones 5tds vs Washington didn't carry over. Each new season you start 0-0
I am a Giant Fan from the 1950’s and it all ended with he Benching of DJ. This organization sucks and I will not come back until they quit giving into the Crooked media
Facts I’m on the same wave with you right now!!
Bye 👋 👋 dont let the door hit you on the way out 😊
Take Daniel Jones with you!
You owe it to the fans to build a competitive football team not to win meaningless games in November so we can get the 9th pick instead of top 3
They should of done this after the second game there of the playoffs now the do it senseless now there gonna mess their draft I like devito but let's face it he not a franchise quarterback.you know that Devito brings joy and energy I know that but he's not a number 1 quarterback..
SAQUAN BARKLEY MIST BE LAUGHING VERY HARD AT
1.JOHN MARA
2.JOE SCHOEN
3.BRIAN DABOL
4.GIANTS FANS
If Dabolll isn't tanking and is trying to win then he should be fired for not being able to win enough. Period.
It's a Football Decision , and Football is a Business so I'm told , and Fans want to see Ws