Mafate Speed4s - like a much, much, better SG5 (the tongue just did not work) - these are great shoes, no hot spot until 17-18 miles - then they expand. Grip is nuts. Nice comparative review, Ethan! the Mafate S4s were nuts stable, grippy, great on camber, fantastic on rocks, loose gravel, etc. - Amazingly comfortable. The Mafate S4s and the Novablast 3s are the shoes for me this year (Trail/Road).
My 8 and 6 year-old enjoy your videos...they were waiting for an owl to swoop again! haha. (they especially love your April fool's day video when you burned the Kinvara 13s! lol
Ethan I thought I was the only one experiencing that inner seam issue with the Mafate. After catching that inner seam a few times, I had to toss them. Could not even use them in the yard because of the paranoia of ripping off a GD toenail. Such a shame because the Mafate was SO comfortable. Just ordered a pair of Zegamas and will give them a try. Thank you for the reviews!
Great review! It’s great to see two similar shoes on exactly the same trails for the first impressions. Really gives us a good intro to how the shoes perform. Also, thanks for run-hiking (aka riking). It’s a boost of inspiration for those of us who also rike some of the ascents 😊 What’s up with the Hoka uppers this year? Seems like it’s really hard to get a good, consistent fit dialed in. Wrote off the Zegamas before, but now I’m…intrigued?
Have you considered going half a size down in the Mafate? Could provide a better lockdown and lessen chances of catching the wamp seam. Love your groomed trails! The “rooty section” consists of 4 semi exposed roots😅
Just did a super technical 50k in PA with 7600 feet of vert in my Zegamas. No hot spots, only issue is on technical terrain you can possibly roll your ankle. Rubber seems to be better, but still meh in wet. Great review as always!
I've beat the heck out of my Zegamas over the past year and they are awesome...looking to replace them this season with another pair and the Caldera 6 from Brooks...used the Zegamas across and back at the Grand Canyon, training outside of Boulder, etc. Lots of variable terrain...after a year they've held up really well, upper and midsole padding and I'm a comparatively big (190ish lbs) runner...they're great...
This is really a great (and very transparent) format that should be followed by other reviewers of trail shoes. If I am reading a review I would really like to know in what kind of trails and conditions the shoes were tested because trail running means different things to different people around the globe 👍
I decided to stray away from my usual trail shoe brands and bought a pair of the Zegamas. They are ok. I’m glad I didn’t pay full price for them. Some of the worst hot spots ever for me at long distances. They make great lawn mowing shoes.
Just picked these up, mainly from your recommendation- only one test run but a fun shoe … mainly use Altra so quite a change but luckily the 4mm drop isn’t too aggressive and the toe box is accommodating. It’s like the wild horse juiced up!
Awesome review! Always enjoy your insights. Which would you choose for a R2R2R run in the Grand Canyon? I’ll probably be buying one of these two shoes! Thank you!!!
The Nike Zegamas are excellent! They are incredibly comfortable, and nothing rivals the style of nike. The one concern I have is NOT stability, as one may think upon initial view of the shoes stack - they are very stable - but durability: All that foam cushioning is easy to shred up on technical trails.
I actually ripped one of the eyelets having to retighten my mafate 4s. Luckily it hasnt hindered the lockdown much at all so im still putting miles on them. I absolutely love everything about that shoe except the price😬. Love these videos btw!
Unfortunately no. Hoka's return policy is pretty terrible if you didnt buy directly from them. i bought from my local running shop which only has a 30 day return. But like i said, it hasnt hindered the lockdown much at all and im still loving the shoe! Great shoe for the trails here in asheville.
As soon as it's wet, you won't lean to the Nike any longer...the MS4 shines on more rocky, technical terrain with lots of downhills, on runnable stuff in dry there are of course better suited shoes, but who wants encounter rain on alpine terrain at >2000m in a Nike Trail shoe ?
I’ve been a long time fan of the Terra Kiger and Wildhorse for years now. They are pretty much my regular rotation. The grip sucks but they fit my feet so well that I keep coming back. I got the Zegamas in August and am totally bummed that I get blisters in them on the medial side of my big toe and the ball of my feet. I was hoping to use them for a 100k in the spring but I don’t know now. Maybe I need to size up or go elsewhere.
I won't get the nike no matter what,but very nice review,been a speedboat or challenger guy for years,but tried many shoes,for a financially broke guy I still find ways to get good shoes usually last years models,lol,thank you
Ethan....From the UK...The best way to lace these things (Mafates)?...Please advise.... Absolutely love the shoes 40 miles in...But that duck tail etc etc...Want to tighten that area up as best as...Love everything else about the shoe... Understand the toe issue to.For me, thankfully not as bad as the 3s... Many thanks, great review
Janji vent shorts? Love the first version length and pockets but the tie down is terrible and they ruined the next version by adding the liner and making them longer. When’s the summer (fall) shorts showdown coming?
I quite like my MS4, but they are still not super-stable on uneven terrain - I guess that's a somewhat unavoidable trade-off of so much stack in a trail shoe. Otherwise it is a pleasant, grippy, trail shoe that goes long well - slightly tight in the toe box, but nothing a little lube can't fix.
Question: Is the fit of the Mafate similar to the Stinson? The toebox looks similar from the top. I tried the Speedgoat5, but the Elfin pointy shaped toe doesn't work with my foot, Challenger seems the same.
j ai pu faire 40 miles avant d aller tester lesz egama sur l endurance trail des templiers a millau en france ce vendredi , il avait beaucoup plu la nuit d avant , et comme avec toutes mes nike TK 7 et 8 que j adores , j etais un peu inquiet de saqvoir si ca allait glisser . Alors je peus dire une chose , les zegama sont les chaussures de trail les plus comfortable que j ai pu avoir , et elles se boniffient vraiment au bout 60 miles , elle deviennent plus stable encore , plus comfortable , et le dynamisme reste toujours tres bon , quand a l accroche sur sol humide et roche humide , il est certe pas aussi bon que du vibram , mais autours de moi des concurrents en mafate speed 4 et speedgoat 5 ont tout autant glissé , et sont meme tombé .....donc ces zegama sont pour moi pas aussi catastrophique que ce que certains pourraient laissé entendre , un peu comme les terra kiger 7 , pas les meilleurs sur ro$che humide , mais pas les moins bonne non plus , et comme pour les terra kiger 7 , je suis tellement bien dedans , que je suis pret a pardonner qu elles ne soient pas parfaite sur roche humide , dailleur les zegama et terra kiger 7 et 8 sont devenuent mes seul chaussures de trail , j ai mis a la cave , tout le reste , c est a dire mafate speed , speedgoat , broots catamount , altra olympus , asics trabucco max etc...........je n ais qu une chose a dire , merci NIKE , et comme toujours vous etes aussi les champions du look , et ca ca compte aussi beaucoup .une derniere chose , je trouves que le pied est vraiment tres bien maintenue grace au laçage , et le col derriere la cheville est quelque chose dont j aurais du mal a me passer a present tellement c est comfortable , et le fait que l arriere du talon soit semi souple participe grandement au confort , tres important pour ceux qui ont le tendon d achille fragile
from translator : I did not appreciate at all my first outing of 10 miles in my zegama ...... As a result, I had decided not to run with . Then I still inssisted with another pair of socks, Nike .... And it was greatly improved, then I put 40 miles more in these shoes, and I find them extraordinary, very very comfortable, the best to date, very stable, much more dynamic than what I could have as a shoe for the long, ie Altra Olympus, Mafate Speed 2, Speedgoat 4 , Caldera 5 , Saucony XODIS Ultra ........ I do not regret having grown with this model.
Can These be used on Pavement too? since a little part of my route consists of concrete pavement and then an offroad trail. How's the Durability on each of these? Especially the durability of the outsole.
I mean, sure. I'd say they both would be equally odd feeling on pavement (compared to road or hybrid shoes) with their big lugs. But the Nike probably a bit better on that front.
j ai pas dutout apprecié ma premiere sortie de 10 miles dans mes zegama ......de ce fait j avais decidé de ne plus courrir avec . puis j ai quand meme inssisté avec une autre paire de chaussette , des nike ....et cela a ete grandement amelioré , puis j ai mis 40 miles de plus dans ces chaussure , et je les trouves extraordinaire , tres tres comfortable , les meilleures a ce jour , tres stable , bien plus dynamique que ce que j ai pu avoir comme chaussure pour le long , c est a dire altra olympus , mafate speed 2 , speedgoat 4 , caldera 5 , saucony xodus ultra ........je ne regrette pas d avoir poussé avec ce model .
I expect you’ll give the Nike zegama a buy even though the outsole it horrendous and they’re like running in shoe boxes. They’ve been slaughtered by all reviewers. 😂
I don't watch other reviews for that exact reason - allows me to go in objectively. And I already have at least 60 miles in them (probably another 40 before review) so we'll see!
les gens , et moi le premier , ne voyons quasiment que par vibram , et c est une mauvaise chose .....la pose de pied est tres importante aussi , et je peus vous garantir que ce vebdredi les conditions etaient catastrophique sur l endurance trail des templiers en france , et les zegama ont tout autant brillé que les hoka mafate speed 4 et autres speedgoat 5 pour ne citer qu elles , car en vibram ........et certain sont tombé la ou moi je n ais meme pas glissé , il faut donc temperer les dires de certain .
WHAT A DECEPTION!!! Viewed all of the comparison without any conclusion nor selection. You did not have the guts to select one of the two. WILL NOT VIEW YOUR CHANNEL AGAIN.
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Mafate Speed4s - like a much, much, better SG5 (the tongue just did not work) - these are great shoes, no hot spot until 17-18 miles - then they expand. Grip is nuts. Nice comparative review, Ethan! the Mafate S4s were nuts stable, grippy, great on camber, fantastic on rocks, loose gravel, etc. - Amazingly comfortable. The Mafate S4s and the Novablast 3s are the shoes for me this year (Trail/Road).
Just love this show testing format. You and Kim both looking in great running to shape by the way. Appreciate your content and enthusiasm always.
Badass! I literally ran in my Zegamas for the first time today, in Joshua Tree!
My 8 and 6 year-old enjoy your videos...they were waiting for an owl to swoop again! haha. (they especially love your April fool's day video when you burned the Kinvara 13s! lol
Ethan I thought I was the only one experiencing that inner seam issue with the Mafate. After catching that inner seam a few times, I had to toss them. Could not even use them in the yard because of the paranoia of ripping off a GD toenail. Such a shame because the Mafate was SO comfortable. Just ordered a pair of Zegamas and will give them a try. Thank you for the reviews!
Great review! It’s great to see two similar shoes on exactly the same trails for the first impressions. Really gives us a good intro to how the shoes perform. Also, thanks for run-hiking (aka riking). It’s a boost of inspiration for those of us who also rike some of the ascents 😊 What’s up with the Hoka uppers this year? Seems like it’s really hard to get a good, consistent fit dialed in. Wrote off the Zegamas before, but now I’m…intrigued?
I've already put a bunch more miles in both and they're both still holding up quite well! Should have full reviews soon :)
now im finally double thinking of getting mafate speed4 because of that almost-toenail-will-pop-issue..
great review
Love your videos Ethan. Just FYI: Hoka dropped the "One One", and now it's just Hoka.
I don't know if it's the natural Pacific Northwest ambience or the colour grading, but it looks great! Also interesting shoes to compare.
This is GREAT!!!
Do more of these type of comparisons.
Maybe the Mafates call for sizing down a bit? Seems like if the toe is catching on the overlay they might be a bit long.
I love Mafate Speed 4
Have you considered going half a size down in the Mafate? Could provide a better lockdown and lessen chances of catching the wamp seam.
Love your groomed trails! The “rooty section” consists of 4 semi exposed roots😅
Nice job articulating your thoughts while running up steep hills. That isn't easy
Vibram Megagrip > whatever flavor of the month rubber Nike slaps on its trail shoes… 🙃
YES. ALWAYS.
I had to go down a half size in the Mafate 4. That was unexpected.
those trails are so pretty!
Just did a super technical 50k in PA with 7600 feet of vert in my Zegamas. No hot spots, only issue is on technical terrain you can possibly roll your ankle. Rubber seems to be better, but still meh in wet. Great review as always!
I've beat the heck out of my Zegamas over the past year and they are awesome...looking to replace them this season with another pair and the Caldera 6 from Brooks...used the Zegamas across and back at the Grand Canyon, training outside of Boulder, etc. Lots of variable terrain...after a year they've held up really well, upper and midsole padding and I'm a comparatively big (190ish lbs) runner...they're great...
This is really a great (and very transparent) format that should be followed by other reviewers of trail shoes. If I am reading a review I would really like to know in what kind of trails and conditions the shoes were tested because trail running means different things to different people around the globe 👍
I decided to stray away from my usual trail shoe brands and bought a pair of the Zegamas. They are ok. I’m glad I didn’t pay full price for them. Some of the worst hot spots ever for me at long distances. They make great lawn mowing shoes.
Ack, haven't had hot spots yet (luckily).
Just picked these up, mainly from your recommendation- only one test run but a fun shoe … mainly use Altra so quite a change but luckily the 4mm drop isn’t too aggressive and the toe box is accommodating. It’s like the wild horse juiced up!
Wonderful trail run and comparison! Both seems like great shoes!
Why I love the part where Ethan throws the shoes in the car? 🤣
Awesome review! Always enjoy your insights. Which would you choose for a R2R2R run in the Grand Canyon? I’ll probably be buying one of these two shoes! Thank you!!!
For something like that, honestly, these are both contenders!
The Nike Zegamas are excellent! They are incredibly comfortable, and nothing rivals the style of nike. The one concern I have is NOT stability, as one may think upon initial view of the shoes stack - they are very stable - but durability: All that foam cushioning is easy to shred up on technical trails.
je suis daccord avec vous , mais cette zegama se bonifie avec le temp , la ou d autres chaussures s effondrent .
You crazy US guys and your fractions. Great review Ethan
I actually ripped one of the eyelets having to retighten my mafate 4s. Luckily it hasnt hindered the lockdown much at all so im still putting miles on them. I absolutely love everything about that shoe except the price😬.
Love these videos btw!
Oh man, did they replace/fix the issue for you??
Unfortunately no. Hoka's return policy is pretty terrible if you didnt buy directly from them. i bought from my local running shop which only has a 30 day return. But like i said, it hasnt hindered the lockdown much at all and im still loving the shoe! Great shoe for the trails here in asheville.
As soon as it's wet, you won't lean to the Nike any longer...the MS4 shines on more rocky, technical terrain with lots of downhills, on runnable stuff in dry there are of course better suited shoes, but who wants encounter rain on alpine terrain at >2000m in a Nike Trail shoe ?
Spot on !
Definitely loving trail tested the Nike look great.
I really hope we see an Altra Olympus 5 review!
I have found the Zegama with poor cushioning. I run just in forest paths not very technical, but I retired them very early...
Bear spray: what you attempt to spray at a bear to ensure he’s really pissed off before he attacks you. 🤪🏃♂️🏃♂️
Great shoe match up what a battle!
Man. I’ve bought the Zegama’s and twisted my ankle every time I’ve run in them They are so comfy but Imma have to go with something else.
I’ve been a long time fan of the Terra Kiger and Wildhorse for years now. They are pretty much my regular rotation. The grip sucks but they fit my feet so well that I keep coming back. I got the Zegamas in August and am totally bummed that I get blisters in them on the medial side of my big toe and the ball of my feet. I was hoping to use them for a 100k in the spring but I don’t know now. Maybe I need to size up or go elsewhere.
I won't get the nike no matter what,but very nice review,been a speedboat or challenger guy for years,but tried many shoes,for a financially broke guy I still find ways to get good shoes usually last years models,lol,thank you
Beautiful trail you run on
Pumpkin spiced Hokas
Ethan....From the UK...The best way to lace these things (Mafates)?...Please advise.... Absolutely love the shoes 40 miles in...But that duck tail etc etc...Want to tighten that area up as best as...Love everything else about the shoe... Understand the toe issue to.For me, thankfully not as bad as the 3s... Many thanks, great review
I love the feel of the Zegama, but the outsole isn't great. If only I could put Mafate Speed 4 outsole on the Zegama!
Zegama fits wide enough?
Janji vent shorts? Love the first version length and pockets but the tie down is terrible and they ruined the next version by adding the liner and making them longer.
When’s the summer (fall) shorts showdown coming?
I quite like my MS4, but they are still not super-stable on uneven terrain - I guess that's a somewhat unavoidable trade-off of so much stack in a trail shoe. Otherwise it is a pleasant, grippy, trail shoe that goes long well - slightly tight in the toe box, but nothing a little lube can't fix.
say what you will about either shoe, but one thing trail tested and proven - 100% less owl attackswith both!
hahaha, I'll take it!
Like hiking, but with power. LOL!!!
Question: Is the fit of the Mafate similar to the Stinson? The toebox looks similar from the top. I tried the Speedgoat5, but the Elfin pointy shaped toe doesn't work with my foot, Challenger seems the same.
Awesome review! Just FYI - Hoka dropped the One One from their name :)
j ai pu faire 40 miles avant d aller tester lesz egama sur l endurance trail des templiers a millau en france ce vendredi , il avait beaucoup plu la nuit d avant , et comme avec toutes mes nike TK 7 et 8 que j adores , j etais un peu inquiet de saqvoir si ca allait glisser . Alors je peus dire une chose , les zegama sont les chaussures de trail les plus comfortable que j ai pu avoir , et elles se boniffient vraiment au bout 60 miles , elle deviennent plus stable encore , plus comfortable , et le dynamisme reste toujours tres bon , quand a l accroche sur sol humide et roche humide , il est certe pas aussi bon que du vibram , mais autours de moi des concurrents en mafate speed 4 et speedgoat 5 ont tout autant glissé , et sont meme tombé .....donc ces zegama sont pour moi pas aussi catastrophique que ce que certains pourraient laissé entendre , un peu comme les terra kiger 7 , pas les meilleurs sur ro$che humide , mais pas les moins bonne non plus , et comme pour les terra kiger 7 , je suis tellement bien dedans , que je suis pret a pardonner qu elles ne soient pas parfaite sur roche humide , dailleur les zegama et terra kiger 7 et 8 sont devenuent mes seul chaussures de trail , j ai mis a la cave , tout le reste , c est a dire mafate speed , speedgoat , broots catamount , altra olympus , asics trabucco max etc...........je n ais qu une chose a dire , merci NIKE , et comme toujours vous etes aussi les champions du look , et ca ca compte aussi beaucoup .une derniere chose , je trouves que le pied est vraiment tres bien maintenue grace au laçage , et le col derriere la cheville est quelque chose dont j aurais du mal a me passer a present tellement c est comfortable , et le fait que l arriere du talon soit semi souple participe grandement au confort , tres important pour ceux qui ont le tendon d achille fragile
from translator :
I did not appreciate at all my first outing of 10 miles in my zegama ...... As a result, I had decided not to run with . Then I still inssisted with another pair of socks, Nike .... And it was greatly improved, then I put 40 miles more in these shoes, and I find them extraordinary, very very comfortable, the best to date, very stable, much more dynamic than what I could have as a shoe for the long, ie Altra Olympus, Mafate Speed 2, Speedgoat 4 , Caldera 5 , Saucony XODIS Ultra ........ I do not regret having grown with this model.
Can These be used on Pavement too? since a little part of my route consists of concrete pavement and then an offroad trail. How's the Durability on each of these? Especially the durability of the outsole.
I mean, sure. I'd say they both would be equally odd feeling on pavement (compared to road or hybrid shoes) with their big lugs. But the Nike probably a bit better on that front.
@@TheGingerRunner Okay Thanks ✌️
Bears...in Seattle?
He's east of Seattle in the foothills of the cascades
Trail looks like very smooth. Maybe try a technical trail?
Surprised you had a positive view of the Zegama. Most reviews I’d heard of the shoe weren’t great, could be because I’m a Hoka Stan lol.
j ai pas dutout apprecié ma premiere sortie de 10 miles dans mes zegama ......de ce fait j avais decidé de ne plus courrir avec . puis j ai quand meme inssisté avec une autre paire de chaussette , des nike ....et cela a ete grandement amelioré , puis j ai mis 40 miles de plus dans ces chaussure , et je les trouves extraordinaire , tres tres comfortable , les meilleures a ce jour , tres stable , bien plus dynamique que ce que j ai pu avoir comme chaussure pour le long , c est a dire altra olympus , mafate speed 2 , speedgoat 4 , caldera 5 , saucony xodus ultra ........je ne regrette pas d avoir poussé avec ce model .
Any comparison to the SG1 is a huge red flag
What mic do u use while running?
i think the mafate might be a little to long for u if ur toe sticks out that far
Hmm...Neither. Anyone have a hokaSG5 vs Salomon Pulsar Trail, or SPT Pro?
What's the name of that trail?
Nike trail shoes = heavy+no grip. For running on buffed out trails at a slow pace I suppose they work. At least ultrafly trail is light.
Bonjour. Lesquels sont plus confortables svp ? Merci beaucoup 😊
I basically just forwarded it to the end. I want to know your opinion. That’s it.
Hey bear
running into at least one everyday . . . . . .
Dry as a pancake😂
I like everything about the Nike except the outsole….. not even close to a vibram….very disappointed on rock scrambles
I expect you’ll give the Nike zegama a buy even though the outsole it horrendous and they’re like running in shoe boxes. They’ve been slaughtered by all reviewers. 😂
I don't watch other reviews for that exact reason - allows me to go in objectively. And I already have at least 60 miles in them (probably another 40 before review) so we'll see!
les gens , et moi le premier , ne voyons quasiment que par vibram , et c est une mauvaise chose .....la pose de pied est tres importante aussi , et je peus vous garantir que ce vebdredi les conditions etaient catastrophique sur l endurance trail des templiers en france , et les zegama ont tout autant brillé que les hoka mafate speed 4 et autres speedgoat 5 pour ne citer qu elles , car en vibram ........et certain sont tombé la ou moi je n ais meme pas glissé , il faut donc temperer les dires de certain .
That swallowtail will forever let tiny stones, rocks, pebbles, and dirt into your shoes for the rest of their functional life.
I'm kind of bored of all the Nike and Hoka reviews...
11:43 they way that you shouldnt never takeoff your shoes ,even worse zoomx
Zegama is a 'meh' shoes. You would do better to purchase shoes from different brands instead of this one.
Nike trash shoes. Hoka wins hands down.
WHAT A DECEPTION!!! Viewed all of the comparison without any conclusion nor selection. You did not have the guts to select one of the two. WILL NOT VIEW YOUR CHANNEL AGAIN.
Really after all that not even the full review what a waste my time.