Intense Debate on God & Free Will

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  • @1OSMVision
    @1OSMVision  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Chapters -
    0:00:00 - Introduction and Opening Questions
    0:06:11 - Belief in Prophets After Muhammad
    0:13:54 - Who or What is Allah?
    0:17:38 - Who Named Allah
    0:27:55 - Are There Different Versions Of The Quran
    0:31:00 - Discussing Muhammad
    0:37:20 - is Allah Light
    0:38:30 - Allahs Form and Walking
    0:41:12 - Discussing Physical Attributes of God
    0:46:40 - God's Knowledge and Testing Humanity - What is Free Will
    0:51:54 - Questioning Visibility of Allah And Is There An Original Quran
    0:59:42 - El's Holy Qur'an
    1:01:01 - Are There Different Versions Of The Quran
    1:04:23 - How Can Allah Mean God
    1:11:11 - Why Would a Loving God Punish People
    1:17:39 - Racism In Islam
    1:24:58 - Gender Comparisons in Religion
    1:30:27 - Reflections on Statements and Beliefs
    1:34:29 - Terrorism
    1:39:18 - is Hell Real
    1:40:56 - What or Who is Shaaytan
    1:44:00 - Why Would Allah Test If He Already Knows
    1:47:46 - Living Life Outside of Islam
    1:48:50 - Do Only Muslims Go To Heaven
    1:50:44 - When Did Wu-Sabat Start and What Do They Teach
    1:55:35 - Did Islam Colonise Africa or Did it Spread Through Trade
    1:58:48 - How Did Muhammed Travel To Heaven On A Mystical Animal Through Space
    1:59:27 - The Nature of Belief
    2:11:22 - Science Vs Religion
    2:21:32 - Appreciation and Concluding Remarks

    • @AphmauFan786
      @AphmauFan786 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Every time you use that left side of Quranic translation,I bust wholes through the cerebral and pump muscle with true discernment from Allah alone I know it gotsta huyt!

    • @robertlane7387
      @robertlane7387 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Man this is a fake debate to make Islam look fake, my 12 year old son can defend our religion better than this guy!!!

    • @robertlane7387
      @robertlane7387 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is not a real muslim

    • @AphmauFan786
      @AphmauFan786 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@robertlane7387 oh..he's a Muslim alright.hes just not a believer.Allah entails what the Muslims will do in this future like our past.the first thing is the Muslim title.Once you see what Allah Really say,your gone to hate every lie niqqaz say opposite of Allahh's true words.not that English!when you believe that left hand side of the Quran,you get left back....way back.Im Mumin (Believer)this future the world will see what Allah really means in HIS OWN WORDS! not any of those translation trash,Any and All.Learn how to be guided by asking Allah alone is the hardest thing for a Muslim or any niqqaz!

    • @AphmauFan786
      @AphmauFan786 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @robertlane7387 both sound like fools quoting what Allah don't mean in his own discernment.A big segment full of fierce mistranslations..fools

  • @darquanmccain6942
    @darquanmccain6942 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Religion has so many people brain washed. Dude is so tied to his belief he can’t get out of his own way.

    • @albashirnur
      @albashirnur 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Everyone has their religion, even the so called the ethiest, and u

  • @africanherbsman9488
    @africanherbsman9488 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    This guy didn't do his research on the African man.
    He was 5 levels ahead of him.

  • @n.r.4521
    @n.r.4521 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    This was a good conversation. It was good to hear the different prospectives and the belief aspect versus knowing. I enjoyed listening to this conversation.

  • @hunnitbeanz3883
    @hunnitbeanz3883 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    He believes but he doesn’t know 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @metromanization
    @metromanization 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    It's absolutely crazy when people don't want you to think for yourself

    • @robertlane7387
      @robertlane7387 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Allah gave you yourself, without the Creator there is no self

    • @2tearsinabucket521
      @2tearsinabucket521 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Basically, the universe is however many billion years old, Islam is a couple thousand created from people with voices in there heads, I’d rather watch nature myself and let my brain do the mathematics,as the creator intended..

    • @princeofsomalia1231
      @princeofsomalia1231 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@2tearsinabucket521what is nature? Who created the universe?

    • @africanstar5814
      @africanstar5814 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@princeofsomalia1231 The same thing that created 'God' created the universe, so tell me who created God?

  • @infinitegraphics_
    @infinitegraphics_ 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Great work osm vision

  • @Lloydibwoy
    @Lloydibwoy 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    He keeps saying the word believe...it's blind faith

  • @shifubrowne
    @shifubrowne 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    The fact that he thinks that he is different from me.Or anything else That is the main problem right there 😢😢😢😢😢😢 bless him. With light and knowledge.

  • @davidwatts8281
    @davidwatts8281 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    What he is really saying with "we believe" is "what I was taught"

    • @victorythroughharmony11
      @victorythroughharmony11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We was all 'taught' something..
      Just from different sources.

  • @PassportG
    @PassportG 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wu sabat all day 🤜🏾🤛🏾💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @mrneildennis1472
    @mrneildennis1472 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant conversation, thank you!

  • @myshirayne2382
    @myshirayne2382 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This was great to watch. Its great to see individuals okay to agree to disagree.

  • @Subai-k1q
    @Subai-k1q 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is going to be veeeeery interesting... Can't wait to hear it.

  • @daluxolodondi94
    @daluxolodondi94 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I like this interpretor, he always mentions he believes, meaning he is talking about something he doesn't know weather its true or not. So its good that he believes, because he needs to learn more in order to know. Saying somthing withought a proof its stil like an empty vessel. Saying somthung that u can prove its existence its a proof.

    • @mindfulconversation
      @mindfulconversation 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You should look into the miracles and prophecies of the Quran that science proved after the prophet got these revelations and put them into the Quran…prophecies and science proven 1300 years after being put into the Quran

  • @shifubrowne
    @shifubrowne 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I would really like to hear this conversation.As master z york was a muslim previously , muslim could not mess with him

    • @romecuzzcuzz7786
      @romecuzzcuzz7786 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      RBG Brother Polite dismantle mister z york

    • @nubianqueen6700
      @nubianqueen6700 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He was a confused man. Without all those religions , he wouldn't have come up with his made up religion.

    • @Only1Messiah
      @Only1Messiah 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What religion did he “come up with”? You talking about Nuwaupu which has been here over 400,000 years before Dr. York was even born? You mad confused beloved

    • @nubianqueen6700
      @nubianqueen6700 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Only1Messiah where is the evidence? Or are you gonna bring it from his book?

    • @InnerGMagi
      @InnerGMagi 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dr.z used those religions to reel the people in .. lol the ex Muslim OSM guy is a student teacher of DR.Z .. WUSABAT is at the end .. don’t get caught up on 1 video you watched for 2 minutes.. you gotta watch all the videos and tap in with his followers that’s alive and living like this guy OSM VISION !!!!!

  • @ashawhite1041
    @ashawhite1041 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Free means no cost. If i have free will my choosing does not come at a cost. And if I choose to not obey “God” and I go to “hell” that indeed is a cost or in Layman terms the price to pay. So the will aint free hunni

  • @3Lijahh
    @3Lijahh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    34:24 “we believe, we believe, we believe”.

    • @Only1Messiah
      @Only1Messiah 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly😭not a single “I know and can prove”

    • @Only1Messiah
      @Only1Messiah 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly 😭 not a single “I know and can prove”

  • @madisonbarbiedoll
    @madisonbarbiedoll 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Asking him the questions so he can break him down with facts not beLIEfs.

  • @AwknSylb720
    @AwknSylb720 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    We are so wrapped up in religion still we can’t even figure out where are going……Respecfully, we should be on another level not revisiting the same subject matter. The Master Teacher embodied, explained lived, taught. ❇️THE FATHER IS FREE❇️ ✨🐝✨

  • @AphmauFan786
    @AphmauFan786 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Anas b. Malik transmitted it from the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) that the Great and Glorious Allah said:
    Verily your people would constantly question about this and that till they would say: Well, it is Allah Who created the creation, but who created Allah?

  • @sandracoleman6465
    @sandracoleman6465 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I am understanding what a running faucet and a broken cisten. The wisdom of age and the mind of a young man 🌿 🌱. I want to believe, he learned something valuable even though the water was running in a broken cisten. It's 5:59 am. Backpack 🎒 student still listening.

  • @livhuwanisandralavhengwa5515
    @livhuwanisandralavhengwa5515 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The black man🎉❤ he got his oven on and hes roasting 😂

  • @PeacefulGalaxy-kb2kg
    @PeacefulGalaxy-kb2kg 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    Muslim has too many contradictions. Either it is or it isn't. Religion was created for control, and separation why are we visiting it/ giving it so much energy that it doesn't deserve????

    • @awarwoke
      @awarwoke 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      🔥

    • @TheSuperrapper20
      @TheSuperrapper20 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Grow up bro 😂

    • @PursuingDreamss
      @PursuingDreamss 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Because the Abrahamic foundation of reality is what shapes humanity as it is today. The Abrahamic prophets and the Messiah are the ones who implemented morality into society. May YAH guide us all.

    • @chef-ez6hd
      @chef-ez6hd 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Cause its exposing itself. All you have to do is keep asking good questions

    • @shagg9204
      @shagg9204 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@chef-ez6hdexposing what SMH with Islam or God you people would be in the cave or iron ages killing each other aka survival of the fittest SMH Godless heathens

  • @metromanization
    @metromanization 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    So explain this : to bear witness means to actually have been there and have seen what took place to be able to bear witness, so how is it when people take shahada they say they bear witness if they were never there?"

  • @dima309
    @dima309 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Lovely conversation learned a lot.

  • @shifubrowne
    @shifubrowne 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    He knew the book and the language too well

  • @nadydorcelus4647
    @nadydorcelus4647 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The messages of the KNOWING is inscribed in the plaque of our hearts. It’s a knowing

  • @3Lijahh
    @3Lijahh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    31:24 who gets to decide the quality of the translation? Why do I need a messenger? Just make everyone as smart as the messenger?

  • @zerolbcool
    @zerolbcool 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Bro too many plot HOLES in this guy statements. Sorry but seemingly Logic left the chat. And I'm not black or even follow Any religion seriously. But please make some sense and logic as Wu Sabat does.

  • @carolkirby7845
    @carolkirby7845 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am an african american convert Muslimina and I can not believe my eyes and ears.The Ex-Muslim gave the Muslim the proof and written evidence from the Quran 39:23 which literally states Allah revealed BEST Al HADITH. Why did the muslim read the translation instead of the arabic, why did he rush past that and lie and put his phone away. These people don"t want you to know the truth. Even though the Ex-Muslim could not read the Arabic he quoted a translation, and the Muslim should have read the verse aloud back to him in Arabic and then the english. So since the muslim tried to trick the Ex Muslim I have to defend the Truth of the Ex Muslim on that point and here is a word for word translation and everyone watching. If the muslim would have read from the Arabic which is Quran they would have heard clearly the word HADITH. So I"m going to do it here for everyone who is interested in "What Allah Says" and not translation. Here is the word for word transliteration. Transliteration: Allahu=God, nazzlla= revealed, ahsana= Best, Al Hadith= The Hadith. And here is the word for word translation in English. Allah revealed Best discourse/stories/statements/teachings/message. In English Al Hadith means all to these words. 39:23

  • @Shukr66
    @Shukr66 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Malachi York has confused these people's minds! Smh! May the true MOST HIGH save them!

  • @xxdizannyxx
    @xxdizannyxx 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There is no way that man's an ex muslim because he is asking basic kindergarten islamic questions even our children know the answer to.

  • @sandracoleman6465
    @sandracoleman6465 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Did he come to teach or ask questions? This person appears argumentative and controversy. I thought it was ask questions not to argue. To find out a person studying habits, would help in asking questions, even to ask about their existence and their belief. Backpack 🎒 student is listening on 11-9-24 3:28 am.

  • @nme2ne1
    @nme2ne1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We, the most intelligent of us can see what you’re doing Mr. Wu sabat. I’m not Muslim, but he is definitely your master teacher.

    • @MarcusBarberUk
      @MarcusBarberUk 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Whats he doing?

    • @infinity_spirit
      @infinity_spirit 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who is who's master teacher?

  • @jamalyl6424
    @jamalyl6424 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    From a logical perspective, Ex Muslim is 💯right.

    • @shagg9204
      @shagg9204 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The man in the yellow said at the beginning that the sunnah I.e examples of the prophet Muhammad are what is from the tribe of prophet Muhammad that the most stupidest thing I have ever heard a ex Muslim poor lost soul ever said have fun in the hereafter being decieved by an arrogant ignorant lost soul SMH

  • @MaseratiMike
    @MaseratiMike 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Humans think they’re the most important beings on Earth because someone once whispered, ‘I am God
    “Maserati Mike”

  • @ptahsabaqrayay8816
    @ptahsabaqrayay8816 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The opposite of light is shadow! Not Dark, Darkness exists before light! Light is temporary while Darkness is permanently!! Light can burn out yet Darkness just IS!

    • @InnerGMagi
      @InnerGMagi 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Light is information so you can see .. I can give you information.. and now you can see a situation better with you mind .. light goes and stretch further than you think .. every time you hear the word LIGHT .. it’s only information.. darkness is “Hidden information “ it’s information but it’s hidden for the eyes 👀 or eye 👁️

  • @tfrancis92md
    @tfrancis92md 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1:04:23 the Chinese know this already. That why they call Allah by one of his attitudes instead of God because in their language they don't have words for Islam or Allah. They call Allah The Trust “ Host” or “Owner”. This was mentioned by a Chinese Muslim on Yt

    • @infinity_spirit
      @infinity_spirit 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes but now u have to find out what the real meaning of the words trust, host and owner

  • @abdoulkadermoussasiddo1946
    @abdoulkadermoussasiddo1946 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting debate!
    But I think my brother is getting it a bit wrong. The Quran wasn't revealed sourate by sourate but by verses.

  • @princeofsomalia1231
    @princeofsomalia1231 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    At 51:00 I can’t understand how the Wu Sabat Brudda is confused. When a parent allows their child out, their child have the free will to do what they want. That doesn’t mean there won’t be consequences if they do something wrong.

  • @KeonMurry-b5r
    @KeonMurry-b5r 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another amazing video student teacher ! ❤️ it's real funny that people will agree with you .... especially religious people, only to say "well it works for me " an this is what I believe 😂😂. I can't wait to come on here ! I'm coming locked an loaded 😎 I have so many questions

  • @3Lijahh
    @3Lijahh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    15:08 right before this the Muslim gentlemen says “we have this ‘thing’ …” what is that “thing”. You can’t use arbitrary terms when it comes to religion. Like “we do this thing” “there’s some things”. Use your big words. Is it behavior, is it a written law, is it a thought?

    • @AphmauFan786
      @AphmauFan786 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Quranic methodology the answer when you apply
      the methodology you make yourself available to receive the understanding directly from
      Allah (swt), it is not from the text let me repeat it the methodology is not to be used to
      unlock portions of the text

  • @Rise2Truth
    @Rise2Truth 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    He has some facts, rest of the facts are based on his beliefs. Some parts of the conversation started to sounded like the story of santa claus.. Respect to the man for stepping forward. Religion keeps your mind narrow.

  • @keevancrawford6708
    @keevancrawford6708 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    People really should learn Sumerian history since Abraham is from Sumer.
    The Curse of Ham & Descendants of Sumeria is a good entry level book.

    • @Only1Messiah
      @Only1Messiah 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They not ready to go there😭their entire doctrine would be destroyed

  • @SeanGadsen
    @SeanGadsen 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just as a new born child has to depend on his biological fathers wisdom and knowledge he acquired throughout the years. Humanity has to depend on our heavenly Father for his infinite wisdom and knowledge and also his divine intervention through faith and discernment

  • @shifubrowne
    @shifubrowne 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Everything is vibration keys i give all❤❤❤❤

  • @MysticMountainNebula
    @MysticMountainNebula 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I had never heard of the Suhuf of Abraham until this. There is so much to learn! Thank you for this informative video.

  • @yardiyeboy76
    @yardiyeboy76 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Abrahamic faith is so easy to debunk, this gentleman is dismantling the Koran in such a simple manner🫡

  • @leimelabusi1456
    @leimelabusi1456 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    THANKS SO MUCH

  • @AphmauFan786
    @AphmauFan786 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They misrepresented “Al-Hikmah” that was given to them. So, they did
    not follow the right “Hikmah”. They started with their pre-determined conclusions, and they sought the
    evidence to support their case. That is not “Al-Hikmah”. That is the wrong application of knowledge. Allahh
    (SWA) gives us “Al-Hikmah” to start with a blank slate, with an empty cup, apply “Al-Hikmah”, the
    instruments of extracting the evidence, and then let the evidence lead you where it may lead you, to the
    truth. If you are truly submitting to Allahh (SWA), and to the instruments of knowledge and evidence. You
    would follow the truth, wherever it may take you.

  • @VambaSheriff-c4k
    @VambaSheriff-c4k 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ours brother did well on the topics, He's not that's KNOWLEDGE,I think He do more study to be able to answer simple, simple question on ISLAMIC topics.I am proud of him.

  • @rbowles4907
    @rbowles4907 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Is Allah Enlil? There are multiple Enlil quotes as Yhwh Elohim. It is my understanding Allah id Yhwh Elohim. Is this correct?

    • @Only1Messiah
      @Only1Messiah 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There Allah is Allah-Lu Alulim who has been dead for over 400,000 years. He fought the true creator Anu, twice and lost both times, the final time resulted in his demise and burial on Lahmu(Mars)

    • @Galaticcontact
      @Galaticcontact 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@Only1Messiah Is Allah not El . Is this in one of Dr malachi books

    • @rbowles4907
      @rbowles4907 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Only1Messiah Allahlu was the 1st Annaunaki to pass the shattered bracelet to land on Ki formerly Tiamat. He bit Anus genitals in the second fight causing his own death. Islam is 1400 yrs old. He was gone long before creation of Islam. So it coulnt be him?

  • @AphmauFan786
    @AphmauFan786 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    (Allahh) Said (addressing the person who frowned):
    “And what evidence do you have to dismiss the
    possibility that he (the blind man) might be seeking to
    purify himself!
    و ﴿80:3﴾ َ
    4
    “Or that he might be seeking to sow (new inquiries
    into his Weltanschauung), and then would benefit
    from being allowed spontaneously to recall the
    divinely provided answer (to those inquiries)

  • @madisonbarbiedoll
    @madisonbarbiedoll 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The light in everything is the SUN…. That’s it. Every story starts with the original man paying attention to the world he/she lived in and figuring things out that have led us to where we are today. Overtime’s the story’s have changed but if you read tween the lines the story is the same. It’s time to take care of our planet and become self sufficient.

  • @7supremeknowledge245
    @7supremeknowledge245 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You should have a discussion with dr. Wesley Muhammad on islam and African spirituality that would be enlightning

  • @randyjamison2989
    @randyjamison2989 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why can't he just give a definitive answer there's always some tiptoe around his point of exchange or his answer has too many questions after he reveals it

  • @nadydorcelus4647
    @nadydorcelus4647 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Some humans have decided write books and say god say?

  • @knowledgebornwisdomunderst8505
    @knowledgebornwisdomunderst8505 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If Allah is the creator of everything thing that exist (languages, etc) then why do we have to learn Arabic in order for us to understand the Quran, Bible, Torah, etc ?

    • @lexxbrown2075
      @lexxbrown2075 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Great question🎉

    • @seannyc88
      @seannyc88 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This sounds like a dumb ass question for the simple fact the torah is in Hebrew and bible in English if someone didn’t know these languages they would have to learn in order to translate

  • @randyjamison2989
    @randyjamison2989 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    😂 The brother That represents the Muslim faith is trying his dearest To hold on to this cookie cutter religion And won't admit That is just another form Of authority and power It's molding his will And conscious😅

  • @shifubrowne
    @shifubrowne 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    In fact, with respect, his knowledge is very, very, very limited about the world that he lives in he.He needs to do a lot more research even about the book.He believes in the god he believes

    • @AphmauFan786
      @AphmauFan786 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He avoids my comments when I rebuttal with knowledge based evidence, knowledge based evidence, knowledge based evidence!from Quran without his translation but what Allah really say.he shook of me

    • @infinity_spirit
      @infinity_spirit 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@AphmauFan786how can he be shook of u there could be many reasons why he has not replied to u as yet...

    • @AphmauFan786
      @AphmauFan786 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @infinity_spirit of course many reasons he can read like you and not respond intellectually with his knowledge.its not knowledge based evidence.there is a difference between the truth and truthfulness,let alone falsehood.And also a difference between appearance and Reality.we all have hearts in our chest.the spirit can be shooked to the core, then how do you respond? Think with a.....

    • @AphmauFan786
      @AphmauFan786 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @infinity_spirit we have to understand that the Quran does not include a single piece of information that is
      not relevant. This is a relevance principle, which is part of our methodology.

    • @AphmauFan786
      @AphmauFan786 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @infinity_spirit one of the qualifications is what we call the principle of
      relevance the Quran talks about that none of the content of the Quran can be described as irrelevant or
      you know extraneous, and yet in all of the interpretations we find that the interpreters skim over parts
      of verses or determine explicitly that this term or this sentence is just repeating the prior sentence, and
      therefore they deemed it extraneous, and therefore they violated the principle which is the principle of
      relevance

  • @shifubrowne
    @shifubrowne 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please note we do not have 5 senses etcetera.We only have one sense.... TOUCH.. Light must touch the back of your eyes , So you can Vibrations need to touch your inner ear lobe so you can hear Your skin to be touched so you can feel. Your tongue tastes need to be stilted so you can taste.You're nervous system is how you perceive this world. Touch.
    Even your feelings I can touch I don't have❤❤❤

  • @Maurchives
    @Maurchives 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mr. Seqen doesn’t really know all that he thinks he knows. If he really had knowledge, he’d stop playing games on TH-cam and do the real work of purification. True knowledge is not about making claims to knowledge but about the work of acting on that knowledge. If he’s not ready to do that, he’s better off as a believer.

  • @infinity_spirit
    @infinity_spirit 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So if they need a messenger they're basically getting second-hand knowledge ...the thing about that it can become like Chinese whispers

  • @sylnite3594
    @sylnite3594 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    We needed this

  • @AphmauFan786
    @AphmauFan786 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To whomever he (Allahh) wills, he allows to learn Al-Ḥikmah (i.e., the instruments of deduction), and
    whomever is allowed to learn Al-Ḥikmah, such person has been allowed to learn copious amounts of
    correct applications. But none (may) seek to sow (new inquiries into his Weltanschauung) except those
    with guided cores.

  • @nme2ne1
    @nme2ne1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just because some of the things you say are true doesn’t mean everything you say is the truth!💯

  • @AphmauFan786
    @AphmauFan786 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Allah (swt) is telling us we have not sent about a messenger except in
    the Lissaan of his people now what is Lissaan?

  • @ashawhite1041
    @ashawhite1041 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    He keeps saying thats the thing then proceeds to confuse me even more what’s the thing sir what is it

  • @carolkirby7845
    @carolkirby7845 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Ex Muslim is right again Most English translation of Sunnah/Sunnat means Traditions and can also mean practices of The Prophets. Thats why I follow to the best of my ability "Sunnah/Sunnat Allah. The practices revealed to us from Allah, in which Allah prescribed practices for humanity.

  • @Hoshep22
    @Hoshep22 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They never chase Allah only money, women, and lifestyle necessities. Very strange indeed

  • @davinci3690
    @davinci3690 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    IT'S JUST SEMANTICS, peace be upon him, may ALLAH bless his soul.🫴🙏

  • @abdullahsheriff2257
    @abdullahsheriff2257 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    None of these two guys is a scholar. Better they back away from such discussions

  • @Galaticcontact
    @Galaticcontact 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The fact that its in the news iraq have changed the law to allow females as young as 9 to get married tells me everything i need to know

    • @Kbandddzzz
      @Kbandddzzz 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was Muhammad that started it he was married to a 9yr old at 57

  • @QuinnJohnson-pj7no
    @QuinnJohnson-pj7no 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    He was quote on quote blk.right?or none denominational ..

  • @RaYomKennuu
    @RaYomKennuu 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would really enjoy a conversation with another elder with wisdom on these subjects. The Christian that he had on and this Muslim were 100 steps behind a man who’s Teacher could run circles around ANYONE IN ANY SUBJECT. Still great knowledge from this though.

  • @beaboutpeaceandpleasure9230
    @beaboutpeaceandpleasure9230 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    35:39 It says in the same verse it's a parable.

  • @sulaymans.jawara1455
    @sulaymans.jawara1455 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    OMG... This Black guy is just playing dumb... And the Muslim br. shouldn't present himself talking in public on things he don't understand.

  • @Sirskyyy
    @Sirskyyy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Free will means the ability to make choices, even if there are consequences. Consequences don’t negate free will; they influence decisions by adding stakes. You’re free to choose, but you’re also responsible for the outcomes of your actions.
    A great example of this is Freedom of speech. Freedom of speech means you can express yourself without undue restriction, but it doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. Your speech is free, but the reactions-whether social, legal, or moral-are part of the responsibility that comes with that freedom.

  • @sandracoleman6465
    @sandracoleman6465 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some people were born to just listen and learn from a learned person. It written, stay teachable. In this case is questionable. This sounds like chaos and confusion to my understanding. This person is up against knowledge and applied knowledge=Power. I hope he establish stability in his receptors, it would definitely help his awareness and his ability to receive wisdom and respect at his level. Please forgive me if I offend anyone, it's not my intention. Backpack 🎒 student continues to listen 👂

  • @daluxolodondi94
    @daluxolodondi94 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On the "Test" point their "God" don't know his creation, because he still have to test meaning he is not sure though he is the God who knows all. Can he hear the contradiction on his words. But still its difficult to blame him because he believes.

  • @QuinnJohnson-pj7no
    @QuinnJohnson-pj7no 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Which was first?

  • @mrkekjr
    @mrkekjr 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My thing is, how can a Deity have or experience emotion like grief or the feeling of regret when those states of being is part of creation which is based off of hormones? I’m pretty sure a deity like Allah or Yahweh is above such a thing? Right?

  • @KebbaJarju-w3i
    @KebbaJarju-w3i 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your answer should have been we are a people who submit ourselves entirely to Allah and we are Muslims. In the Qur'an we are called Muslim by Allah.

  • @MysticMountainNebula
    @MysticMountainNebula 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What are the tablets the man on the left refers to at 1:09:53 ?

  • @QuinnJohnson-pj7no
    @QuinnJohnson-pj7no 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Get emmm boooy🦍❤️

  • @AphmauFan786
    @AphmauFan786 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lissaan the best translation that I could come up with is locution or Vernacular or Jargon or
    Dialect now what are those? I’ll give you examples and that will become very clear! for example
    if you listen to someone using the terms chap or lad versus man you’ll understand that the first
    one is a person speaking British English and American English uses man another example is the
    term Lorry whereas in American English we use the word Truck in Australian English we use
    the word mate but in American English we use the word friend. Arabs know that even though all
    of the Arabs in all the Arabs countries speak Arabic each country has its own locution so Iraqis
    have their own specific words that they use Egyptian’s have a different set of terms that they use
    they’re all speaking the same Arabic language but they have different locution different ways of
    expressing their thoughts or vocabulary Moroccans on the other hand or Tunisians all of themhave their own locution and therefore the Quran is telling us that every story that was reported by
    Allah (swt) in the Quran about messengers before Muhammad (saw) were reported in the
    locution of their people. When you read their stories you have to search for what specific
    locutions their people spoke and in the case of the Quran all the messengers were from the
    Middle East so they were all using a similar locution that I would refer to as the Abrahamic
    locution because it is focused primarily around the Abrahamic messengers who preached
    monotheism in the Middle East and they all pretty much refer to the same locution.

    • @shagg9204
      @shagg9204 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can say Lisan is also "Tongue" too brother

  • @madeandcrowned
    @madeandcrowned 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    From a religious perspective, God is light and darkness, and creation; man is god (little g) and capable of that same light and darkness, thus the necessity of free will or, better said, choice.

  • @DewayneOldham
    @DewayneOldham 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mankind has this propensity, to think they can speak for God, putting words in his mouth, but all the time, they speaking it, the gods are us, I speak for me, not a unknown representative.

  • @Yeshua_Melchezidek999
    @Yeshua_Melchezidek999 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Degrees of Muhammadism. Calls out the false hoods with Sunni Muslims.

  • @3Lijahh
    @3Lijahh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    41:20 why wouldn’t you use the word for guidance instead of light no matter what the language. It means light because it is actually light.
    How does the teacher know what it means?

  • @mrkekjr
    @mrkekjr 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why give your creation free will when you know the outcome of what free will brings? Which is rebellion? It doesn’t make sense. Why not fix your free will plan? Doesn’t God/Allah have free will? Why gives us a watered down version of free will where we struggle and give into temptation when God/Allah doesn’t struggle with it? Get real. We were destined to fall.

  • @KebbaJarju-w3i
    @KebbaJarju-w3i 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your answer should have been:we are a people who submit ourselves entirely to Allah only and we are Muslim. In the Qur'an we are called Muslim by Allah. Forget about sects.

  • @mbak78
    @mbak78 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Free will
    You have a choice choose good my way or the bad way inbetween these choices the is a whole load of free will and choices available
    Choose carefully and if you choose the wrong path and you sin you can correct yourself doesn’t mean you are going to hell and it’s already written the fact u sinned for the first 20 years of life doesn’t mean you will go to hell if you have lived like Allah planned for you

  • @QuinnJohnson-pj7no
    @QuinnJohnson-pj7no 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿🦍🦍🦍👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🦍

  • @7noEleven
    @7noEleven 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This man slightly annoyed me. Elevating his voice at times to try to get his point across.. he not even letting Seqen fully finished what he’s saying or asking by speaking over him … Dude is no different from the rest of the religious folks, they try to make their religion make sense but even to a kid it’s sound like BS ..
    I appreciLOVE you guys ❤

  • @AphmauFan786
    @AphmauFan786 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That (i.e., the story of Yūssuf recounted in this sūrah) is a partial
    account of the truth that is (currently) beyond perception, and that we
    enjoin (as guidance to you, in your prophetic career) upon you
    (Muḥammad). And you (Muḥammad) were not listening in, with them
    as they colluded, and (nor were you listening in) as they deceived.

  • @SeanIdemudia
    @SeanIdemudia 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like that question how Do we need someone that has learned the Quran when prophet Mohamed couldn’t read and was unlearned it’s a contradiction in itself

  • @Nuwwab-Re
    @Nuwwab-Re 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I wanna see you debate a Imam

  • @spiritualsincerity347
    @spiritualsincerity347 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is the exact example of witiko