A rematch? l know Geroge is a promoter, and this is what he does. In my eyes, this rematch doesn't make any sense at all. Hopefully, the Goodman v Inoue thing we never hear about anymore moving forward. Thank you for posting these great interviews.
U dont know what is going inaide the camp and mind of a fighter. Knowing Kostya's and Igor"s backgrounds in my opinion Tim not only didnt overlook and underestimate Bakhram but gave him his proper respect. I understand russian and listening to Bakhram's interviews now he is saying that Tim was nice and humble with him and didnt talk any ahit to him personaly when they stayed at the same hotel and crossed path in elevators or lobby or wherever it was. Another thing is giving interviews and making a name for urself in the states to promote irself foe payday fights like crawford ortiz etc. I dint blame Tim for that, he did what he had to do and not many will understand it. He lost the fight but and got schooled fair and square but there was never disrespect towards Bakhram. Even Kostya stated chechens are no joke and we are not taking Bakhram easy
@kazikartinec why you talking about disrespect for??I never said anything about that at all,I said tim overlooked bakhram by talking about Crawford and fundora and even the way tszyu was fighting was like he was underestimating the skill and power of bakhram
@kazikartinec I don’t know what Tim really thought but I can see that the trainer preparation for that fight was just a tad short of catastrophic. What was their plan ? That he was going to just straight out slug against a Chechen? Horrible tactic is an understatement. No coherent strategy, poor movement , no lateral movement , head movement beyond awful. If he continues like this against similar boxers he is either going to have a short career or he will fight regional boxers but for how long?
@robford3211 I'm not sure what you're reacting to, the man was respectful and honest in his opinion, and I agree with him. I'm a big Tim fan, but not a fan boy.
George Rose seriously you are a dribbla, Tim and his brother need to get away from this No Limits circus. Really hope Kostya is putting wheels in motion behind the scenes to take Tim back to the top and get away from these clowns.
Of course, agree. We're here when Tim wins and loses and we give honest feedback as fans. None of it is hatred, its our opinion on what we think he did wrong and what he can do better.
If Tim wants to fly with the Eagles he cant play with these plovers!! No limit cards are ripping people off for the price. Watch Opetaia n Huni etc for $40 through DAZN. George will charge $70 or $80 for cards headed by Nakita Tszyu for example- rip off- PLEASE don't make these bums richer, they don't deserve it
I had plenty of arguments going back a few years now with family and friends. That Opetaia is the face of Australian boxing not Tim Tszyu he's in the same group below Opetaia. Fighting for the second spot. Tszyu. Paro. Goodman. Huni. Are not on the same level as Opetaia. I wish Opetaia would give Huni a touch up for shits and gigs
@ if you want to talk facts I’m all for it: stable yes, promotion, debatable but coverage and commentators is appalling, when once a year fans in the pub are saying what the fuck are the commentators on about and why’s the camera angels so bad, you know you have a problem. Rectify these issues and we coupled with DAZN and Eddie Then no doubt they can take it right to the top.
Some pretty ordinary comments fellas. ( Loving not Judging ) Its nice having that 20/20 hindsight vision aye. Perhaps mistakes were made its easy to get over confident and that goes for trainers promoters and fighters. I think everyone knows Tim and Nikita are blessed with talent, but can be hit a little to easily, They know what needs to be done and a wake up call has been issued. How you get up and respond to adversity, That's the true test of a mans character. I for one wish them all the best there both Champions in my eyes.
Blessed with the last name u mean 👍 Tim had he’s own personal chef before he’s first fight hhahaha others like opetaia had to grind with no last name and no money
First of all, the unpleasant thing is that there is no apology to Monster and the Japanese fans.They are really unpleasant people who only lament their losses and don't pay Monster's team.That's how Australians are perceived in Japan.As long as they play again. No goodbye
SAM GOODMAN WAS PUNCHED TWICE BY HIS SPARRING PARTNER, CUT ABOVE HIS EYE, BLEEDING, AND HAD TO BE OPERATED ON. Isn't this the same as being knocked out? Shouldn't you have to beat your sparring partner before you can fight Inoue? SAM GOODMAN should play game Marlon Tapales. Tapales may be stronger than GOODMAN.
Eddie Hearn was spot on about Tim and Australian boxing I have said it many times they are not elite fighters.on there world stager go back as far as you want in history same results when they step up to the US or EU they loose big fights slow feet and don't have that quick twitch
George reminds me of Colonel Tom Parker who managed Elvis Presley. Tom Parker was a manager who was great at promoting the Presley image but a hopeless manager who kept Elvis locked in a shoe box. Elvis could never pursue or develop his acting skills due to bad choices by Tom and the film studio. Elvis never toured the world due to Tom being an illegal immigrant. Tom made himself wealthy off Elvis back even though he was a terrible gambler. Getting back to George if he and the team really had Tims back they would be honest with him and tell him how they have made terrible decisions that have almost crippled his career and it's time for Tim to find another trainer.
I think No Limit were good for Aussie boxing early, but when they signed the exclusive contract with Fox that was when the greed kicked in. I love boxing but it isn’t a mainstream sport in Australia . I can pay a regular fox or Kayo subscription and and get every game of NRL or AFL, which are mainstream sports. Charging $70 for a Australian title fight on top of a subscription fee does nothing for the average Australian boxing fan. A select few Aussie boxers and more so boxing managers made shitloads out of that agreement. I welcome Tasman Fighters and DAZN. And I loved the show they put on a week of two ago. Just my opinion.
If you reckon so. From someone who has followed boxing for decades, Rose is a terrible promoter and gets hoodwinked every time by the proper big time promoters from the US and UK. They stuffed their chance of making some massive $$$$ and getting on the world stage with the Saudies and he's now pushing mediocre small money fights in Australia trying to milk what is left of the Tszyu name.
@@jasbadsirron6424100% agree mate. I’ve always been a little suss on No Limit and now DAZN has purchased Foxtel, Tasman Fighters and DAZN will take over. 2025 we will see No Limit but mark my words 2026 will be totally different. In terms of the Saudi deal, can’t really fault what they did. Yes they could have taken an easier fight back and they did but Lubin pulled out. Was it because No Limit/Glenn were too stubborn pushing the fight for Australia? Maybe. But Tim’s career has gone sideways.
Really like George,go Manly but come on mate. I believe Koysta could see what might happen because Tim thought he was gonna walk through everyone and these novice promoters endorsed that.
George Rose never say congratulations to jai Opetaia Australian best boxer. I haven't seen any interview with No limits fighters reaction to the Tasman fighters achievements. Nothing negative from Opetaia was asked about Tim's lost.
I like Tim ..but it was obvious he had holes in his skillset. Lots of people were saying it. George was onky listening to the back slappers and fan boys. Tim has issues with footwork and head movement fir starters. He is not a fluid mover. Nikita has smoother movement imo. Its like Tim wanted to be GGG ..but he is not GGG..the power isnt there, the experience isnt there...and nothing soft comes out of Kazakhstan.
Hope we don't have to pay $70 to watch these cards in the future. Stop treating us like mugs No Limit, our pockets have a limit. Good luck to all the boxers. No Limit won't be able to print money on Foxtel when Dazn takes over. Wow, defends Tim to the last breath. His loss was a devastating one, which he brought onto himself for not taking Bakhram seriously. All the BS about Crawford, etc. Tim even said in a Foxtel interview if he and Bakhram fought 10 times, Tim would win 9 of them. Delusional talk. What Tim really needs is to get with a trainer who has a world champion caliber resume. The Fundora fiasco was his corners fault, should have stopped it after the 4th, a no brainer. Nothing said about Jai, so much for supporting all Aussie fighters. So glad Jai is promoted by Eddie Hearn and the Shiek loves him.
TIm tszyu vs Bahram Murtazaliev is the only fight to redeem himself. No other fight makes sense. Tim got humbled for trying too hard. Bahram proved eating potato chips can still win you fights. Tim stay quiet this time and DESTROY Bahram with your God given talent
He won't destroy Bahkram. No chance. Tim and his arrogant amateur hour team missed the boat with the Saudies and clearly hasn't learnt from their poor attitude and obvious mistakes.
@jasbadsirron6424 study boxing and get back to me. Tim went into the fight thinking he was invincible with his dad watching. All his skills he threw out the window for this fight.
@@colonthegothat would end his career. He would lose again. Bahkram has his number and clearly studied tims movement.. styles make fights, they could fight 10 times, tim will lose 9. His arrogance didnt get him, the fact he loves the body punch and bakram has the perfect counter did. Study boxing, watch the fight and youll see it.
Your that good gorge your the only man who think Sam had any chance ,but you just throw shit at the wall and risk his health for a payday ,true promoter hey
Rose Brother's in it for the $$ they don't know nor give a shit about the fighter's put them against Hearn's Warrens, Ellerbe's Schaeffer's their tier 3 in comparison - few pub fights dont make you world
Too much hate for no limit. People complaining about no limit cost. Agree it’s too much. But what is too much is the crap Tasman fighters put on with DAZN. The commentary was disgusting, the camera angles atrocious the footage was hard to watch. So Im all for paying $80 to no limit and not burning my money watching that shit Tasman put on
Its so easy to be a prophet after the fact . Tim Tszyu has lost 2 fights only. The Fundira fight he prett much definately would have won if he could see and he got hit and wasnt able to recover against a bloke noone else wants to fight in the division , no big names want to fight him . Hes a beast . How long have Yap Yap Zerafa have lasted ? All the talk about Tim only getting to where he has due to his ladt name is the biggest load of bullshit , his father isnt in the ring with him , hes got to where he is due to his own ability . Lennox Lewis got knocked out erlt againt Oliver McCall and lost to Hasim.Rahman , Manny Pacquiao lost in round 7 to Marquez . Tim can still do big things in boxing. Its so easy to have a strong opinion after the event , people do it all the time . I dont understand why some people are so nasty , he got in there and gave it his all and lost with digniry , why do people have to shoot him down . He got caught with shots that would have put King Kong on his backside
Play the long game George. You are somewhat responsible for these fighters. As i said play the long game but i suspect you put all your eggs in early because of one now you have to get it back or your gonna be in trouble financially. Just sounds like bullshit . Too big too soon. Wish you all the best sound desperate treating the people like fools. No ones talking about Tim till he does something that's the reality and Eddie was fair in saying that. Lets go Tim
Tim Tszyu has lost 2 fights, one of them was very very unlucky due to that bad cut. Losing 2 isn't a big deal, just look at all of the Great Boxers in History at every weight devision. There must be thousands of great Boxers through out history that have a much much higher loss rate than 2 losses. There are only 2 boxers in history that are undefeated through out their career, they are --ROCKY MARCIANO---&. Terence Crawford... Tim Tszyu will be back better than ever...
@Lloydmarylou53 You have forgotten Floyd Mayweather Jr. he's undefeated. As for Crawford, he has only fought Spence Jr. All the other 39 or 40 fights are against nobody's , not worth mentioning.
@@topcat1406 Thanks for the update mate,,Yes you'r right, I forgot the Greatest in Boxing history. That is 3 then,,Floyd Mayweather---Rocky Marciano--Terence Crawford...
@@Lloydmarylou53 Your welcome, Usyk could possibly be added to that list. Rocky and Mayweather didn't duck anyone, I'm not to sure if Tank has though he's undefeated as well. I may sound like I'm a Crawford hater, but I'm not. l just don't see Crawford as one of those elite fighters. Has only fought Spence Jr and we all know what happened to him with the car accident. He ran away from his manortiore Boots and had one fight at 154.
This is the face of mismanagement
A rematch? l know Geroge is a promoter, and this is what he does. In my eyes, this rematch doesn't make any sense at all. Hopefully, the Goodman v Inoue thing we never hear about anymore moving forward. Thank you for posting these great interviews.
Tim was overlooking bakhram and talking about other fight's and paid the price for it,cant do that shit in any fight let alone a world title fight
U dont know what is going inaide the camp and mind of a fighter. Knowing Kostya's and Igor"s backgrounds in my opinion Tim not only didnt overlook and underestimate Bakhram but gave him his proper respect. I understand russian and listening to Bakhram's interviews now he is saying that Tim was nice and humble with him and didnt talk any ahit to him personaly when they stayed at the same hotel and crossed path in elevators or lobby or wherever it was. Another thing is giving interviews and making a name for urself in the states to promote irself foe payday fights like crawford ortiz etc. I dint blame Tim for that, he did what he had to do and not many will understand it. He lost the fight but and got schooled fair and square but there was never disrespect towards Bakhram. Even Kostya stated chechens are no joke and we are not taking Bakhram easy
@@kazikartinecsuggest u look at Tim's recent interviews, he admits he underestimated Bakhram.
@kazikartinec why you talking about disrespect for??I never said anything about that at all,I said tim overlooked bakhram by talking about Crawford and fundora and even the way tszyu was fighting was like he was underestimating the skill and power of bakhram
@kazikartinec
I don’t know what Tim really thought but I can see that the trainer preparation for that fight was just a tad short of catastrophic.
What was their plan ? That he was going to just straight out slug against a Chechen?
Horrible tactic is an understatement.
No coherent strategy, poor movement , no lateral movement , head movement beyond awful. If he continues like this against similar boxers he is either going to have a short career or he will fight regional boxers but for how long?
@robford3211 I'm not sure what you're reacting to, the man was respectful and honest in his opinion, and I agree with him. I'm a big Tim fan, but not a fan boy.
What about mateo tapia vs zerafa, arent they both ranked top 20 middleweights?
George Rose seriously you are a dribbla, Tim and his brother need to get away from this No Limits circus. Really hope Kostya is putting wheels in motion behind the scenes to take Tim back to the top and get away from these clowns.
I agree he needs to change his camp but Kostya was ringside during his last fight and Tim said they didn’t speak afterwards which is extraordinary!
Tim Tszyu just wasn’t as good as we all thought
im a tim fan but george is bloody delusional if he thinks people where not saying stuff well before the fundora fight.
Of course, agree. We're here when Tim wins and loses and we give honest feedback as fans. None of it is hatred, its our opinion on what we think he did wrong and what he can do better.
Has zerafa got any fan's apart from his family??😂
Hundreds of them
Unfortunately all are showing symptoms of CTE
@jackthelab6755 THE CTE CREW 😆
Tasman fighters are taking over.
Not with that crap they put on!! The show was terrible! The camera angles atrocious! Commentary was disgusting.
With that performance Dream on dreamer
@ They have the best fighters in Australia 🇦🇺
Agree , they are the future prospects , no limit without tszyus are worthless imo
If Tim wants to fly with the Eagles he cant play with these plovers!! No limit cards are ripping people off for the price. Watch Opetaia n Huni etc for $40 through DAZN. George will charge $70 or $80 for cards headed by Nakita Tszyu for example- rip off- PLEASE don't make these bums richer, they don't deserve it
George is an expert pie eatter but knows very little about boxing
I had plenty of arguments going back a few years now with family and friends. That Opetaia is the face of Australian boxing not Tim Tszyu he's in the same group below Opetaia. Fighting for the second spot. Tszyu. Paro. Goodman. Huni. Are not on the same level as Opetaia. I wish Opetaia would give Huni a touch up for shits and gigs
George squirming at DAZN. Tasman and DAZN will take over Australian boxing.
Not with that crap they put on!! The show was terrible! The camera angles atrocious!
Commentary was disgusting.
With that performance Dream on dreamer
@Dancooper66 best stable in Australia & best promotion Tasman fighters
@ if you want to talk facts I’m all for it: stable yes, promotion, debatable but coverage and commentators is appalling, when once a year fans in the pub are saying what the fuck are the commentators on about and why’s the camera angels so bad, you know you have a problem. Rectify these issues and we coupled with DAZN and Eddie Then no doubt they can take it right to the top.
@Dancooper66 I found there coverage was great they put on a great show
@@Ghostdog6 how, do you watch boxing? Did you listen to the commentators? Commentating the fights ? Truly…. You must be have a lend ?
Some pretty ordinary comments fellas. ( Loving not Judging ) Its nice having that 20/20 hindsight vision aye. Perhaps mistakes were made its easy to get over confident and that goes for trainers promoters and fighters. I think everyone knows Tim and Nikita are blessed with talent, but can be hit a little to easily, They know what needs to be done and a wake up call has been issued. How you get up and respond to adversity, That's the true test of a mans character. I for one wish them all the best there both Champions in my eyes.
Blessed with the last name u mean 👍 Tim had he’s own personal chef before he’s first fight hhahaha others like opetaia had to grind with no last name and no money
First of all, the unpleasant thing is that there is no apology to Monster and the Japanese fans.They are really unpleasant people who only lament their losses and don't pay Monster's team.That's how Australians are perceived in Japan.As long as they play again. No goodbye
How was losing ww2 and having two atom bombs dropped on your country?
SAM GOODMAN WAS PUNCHED TWICE BY HIS SPARRING PARTNER, CUT ABOVE HIS EYE, BLEEDING, AND HAD TO BE OPERATED ON. Isn't this the same as being knocked out? Shouldn't you have to beat your sparring partner before you can fight Inoue?
SAM GOODMAN should play game Marlon Tapales. Tapales may be stronger than GOODMAN.
Eddie Hearn was spot on about Tim and Australian boxing I have said it many times they are not elite fighters.on there world stager go back as far as you want in history same results when they step up to the US or EU they loose big fights slow feet and don't have that quick twitch
"Michael Zerafa is always there" 🤣
George reminds me of Colonel Tom Parker who managed Elvis Presley. Tom Parker was a manager who was great at promoting the Presley image but a hopeless manager who kept Elvis locked in a shoe box.
Elvis could never pursue or develop his acting skills due to bad choices by Tom and the film studio.
Elvis never toured the world due to Tom being an illegal immigrant.
Tom made himself wealthy off Elvis back even though he was a terrible gambler.
Getting back to George if he and the team really had Tims back they would be honest with him and tell him how they have made terrible decisions that have almost crippled his career and it's time for Tim to find another trainer.
Colonel Tom was a manager George is a promoter. Tim has a manager that makes choices.
I think No Limit were good for Aussie boxing early, but when they signed the exclusive contract with Fox that was when the greed kicked in. I love boxing but it isn’t a mainstream sport in Australia . I can pay a regular fox or Kayo subscription and and get every game of NRL or AFL, which are mainstream sports. Charging $70 for a Australian title fight on top of a subscription fee does nothing for the average Australian boxing fan. A select few Aussie boxers and more so boxing managers made shitloads out of that agreement. I welcome Tasman Fighters and DAZN. And I loved the show they put on a week of two ago. Just my opinion.
George very informative well done mate
If you reckon so. From someone who has followed boxing for decades, Rose is a terrible promoter and gets hoodwinked every time by the proper big time promoters from the US and UK. They stuffed their chance of making some massive $$$$ and getting on the world stage with the Saudies and he's now pushing mediocre small money fights in Australia trying to milk what is left of the Tszyu name.
@@jasbadsirron6424100% agree mate. I’ve always been a little suss on No Limit and now DAZN has purchased Foxtel, Tasman Fighters and DAZN will take over. 2025 we will see No Limit but mark my words 2026 will be totally different. In terms of the Saudi deal, can’t really fault what they did. Yes they could have taken an easier fight back and they did but Lubin pulled out. Was it because No Limit/Glenn were too stubborn pushing the fight for Australia? Maybe. But Tim’s career has gone sideways.
Really like George,go Manly but come on mate. I believe Koysta could see what might happen because Tim thought he was gonna walk through everyone and these novice promoters endorsed that.
George Rose never say congratulations to jai Opetaia Australian best boxer. I haven't seen any interview with No limits fighters reaction to the Tasman fighters achievements. Nothing negative from Opetaia was asked about Tim's lost.
I like Tim ..but it was obvious he had holes in his skillset. Lots of people were saying it. George was onky listening to the back slappers and fan boys. Tim has issues with footwork and head movement fir starters. He is not a fluid mover. Nikita has smoother movement imo. Its like Tim wanted to be GGG ..but he is not GGG..the power isnt there, the experience isnt there...and nothing soft comes out of Kazakhstan.
Hope we don't have to pay $70 to watch these cards in the future. Stop treating us like mugs No Limit, our pockets have a limit. Good luck to all the boxers. No Limit won't be able to print money on Foxtel when Dazn takes over.
Wow, defends Tim to the last breath. His loss was a devastating one, which he brought onto himself for not taking Bakhram seriously. All the BS about Crawford, etc. Tim even said in a Foxtel interview if he and Bakhram fought 10 times, Tim would win 9 of them. Delusional talk. What Tim really needs is to get with a trainer who has a world champion caliber resume. The Fundora fiasco was his corners fault, should have stopped it after the 4th, a no brainer.
Nothing said about Jai, so much for supporting all Aussie fighters. So glad Jai is promoted by Eddie Hearn and the Shiek loves him.
TIm tszyu vs Bahram Murtazaliev is the only fight to redeem himself. No other fight makes sense. Tim got humbled for trying too hard. Bahram proved eating potato chips can still win you fights. Tim stay quiet this time and DESTROY Bahram with your God given talent
He won't destroy Bahkram. No chance.
Tim and his arrogant amateur hour team missed the boat with the Saudies and clearly hasn't learnt from their poor attitude and obvious mistakes.
@jasbadsirron6424 study boxing and get back to me. Tim went into the fight thinking he was invincible with his dad watching. All his skills he threw out the window for this fight.
@@colonthegothat would end his career. He would lose again. Bahkram has his number and clearly studied tims movement.. styles make fights, they could fight 10 times, tim will lose 9. His arrogance didnt get him, the fact he loves the body punch and bakram has the perfect counter did. Study boxing, watch the fight and youll see it.
Add in that he likes to take pictures whenever he lands a clean shot, he's got a long way to go imo. No way he wins in a rematch. @@bbx7363
Your that good gorge your the only man who think Sam had any chance ,but you just throw shit at the wall and risk his health for a payday ,true promoter hey
Rose Brother's in it for the $$ they don't know nor give a shit about the fighter's put them against Hearn's Warrens, Ellerbe's Schaeffer's their tier 3 in comparison - few pub fights dont make you world
Too smooth George show some true character
No limit is a sinking ship , cash cows Gone , no more private jets Georgey
Love 🐷 piggy Rose
I had plenty to say. Partly carried fights. All in Australia
Wrong
Too much hate for no limit. People complaining about no limit cost. Agree it’s too much. But what is too much is the crap Tasman fighters put on with DAZN. The commentary was disgusting, the camera angles atrocious the footage was hard to watch. So Im all for paying $80 to no limit and not burning my money watching that shit Tasman put on
Its so easy to be a prophet after the fact .
Tim Tszyu has lost 2 fights only.
The Fundira fight he prett much definately would have won if he could see and he got hit and wasnt able to recover against a bloke noone else wants to fight in the division , no big names want to fight him .
Hes a beast . How long have Yap Yap Zerafa have lasted ?
All the talk about Tim only getting to where he has due to his ladt name is the biggest load of bullshit , his father isnt in the ring with him , hes got to where he is due to his own ability .
Lennox Lewis got knocked out erlt againt Oliver McCall and lost to Hasim.Rahman , Manny Pacquiao lost in round 7 to Marquez .
Tim can still do big things in boxing.
Its so easy to have a strong opinion after the event , people do it all the time .
I dont understand why some people are so nasty , he got in there and gave it his all and lost with digniry , why do people have to shoot him down .
He got caught with shots that would have put King Kong on his backside
Tim tszyu doesnt win another belt. Hes not good enough. End of story.
George and glenn are both delusional ... blew too much smoke up tszyu ass and now tszyu acts like charlo with out skill
Play the long game George. You are somewhat responsible for these fighters. As i said play the long game but i suspect you put all your eggs in early because of one now you have to get it back or your gonna be in trouble financially. Just sounds like bullshit . Too big too soon. Wish you all the best sound desperate treating the people like fools. No ones talking about Tim till he does something that's the reality and Eddie was fair in saying that. Lets go Tim
Tim needs a good coach. Lack of basic fundamentals. Too upright and no head movement. You cant just walk forward to a volume puncher.
Tim Tszyu has lost 2 fights, one of them was very very unlucky due to that bad cut. Losing 2 isn't a big deal, just look at all of the Great Boxers in History at every weight devision. There must be thousands of great Boxers through out history that have a much much higher loss rate than 2 losses. There are only 2 boxers in history that are undefeated through out their career, they are --ROCKY MARCIANO---&. Terence Crawford... Tim Tszyu will be back better than ever...
@Lloydmarylou53 You have forgotten Floyd Mayweather Jr. he's undefeated. As for Crawford, he has only fought Spence Jr. All the other 39 or 40 fights are against nobody's , not worth mentioning.
@@topcat1406I wouldn’t say nobody’s!
@paulcamilleri182 OK, somebody's. There are no big names to mention😊
@@topcat1406 Thanks for the update mate,,Yes you'r right, I forgot the Greatest in Boxing history. That is 3 then,,Floyd Mayweather---Rocky Marciano--Terence Crawford...
@@Lloydmarylou53 Your welcome, Usyk could possibly be added to that list. Rocky and Mayweather didn't duck anyone, I'm not to sure if Tank has though he's undefeated as well. I may sound like I'm a Crawford hater, but I'm not. l just don't see Crawford as one of those elite fighters. Has only fought Spence Jr and we all know what happened to him with the car accident. He ran away from his manortiore Boots and had one fight at 154.