I believe the best fix for this is Alliances only work for castle siege and limit it to 2 or 3 guilds per alliance for the duration of the siege . If its not castle siege time then your alliance means nothing. That way there all pvp content is basically you're guild vs all other guilds. This would give even small guilds a fighting chance. Easy fix for the devs right there, after siege all alliances either dont work or are auto disbanded and cannot be remade till next siege.
Top guilds are finally eroding on my server and it honestly won't be long before they start losing siege because of it. Meanwhile the guilds of the other top 2 alliances are hard gaining, one of said guilds I am the leader of. As annoying as it may be for some players, it's always been like a final challenge for our less powerful guilds to overcome in my eyes. Kind of like the server's final boss. We get closer to winning each battle, we've taken conflict bosses from them and even stopped their tax golem. So really, it's just a matter of perspective. If you choose to hate the game because of it, then you've already lost and may as well play something else. You just have to work hard to build a guild that can compete and form an alliance of guilds who have done the same.
@@minstrel7210 you can check my vids whether I hate it or love it, but also, you're right. That's when there are more than a couple of alliances.. In our case there was 2 and 1 won and the other disbanded. Now the entire server is "regrouping" to actually fight pvp since all top guilds are PvE focused, and nobody is fighting the throne. So whoever few pvp players there are, are trying to form a guild and a new alliance. But it's 2:1 ratio still
based on my opinion and experience, i think most PvP focused MMO never have even ground when it comes to actual battle, they simply win by outgear or outnumber their enemy, rarely you'll see someone win relying on their skill (on the open world, on arena things kinda different), because the game are designed that way. That's why i only focus on PvE when it comes to MMO. when it comes to PvP i would rather play something like MOBA or FPS game with somewhat proper rank system.
@@maunabesanika I see what you mean. I was doing the same but, after playing this game, I feel like both are combined into same game quite well, although could use some fixes here and there.
my question is why do they even have bosses that have pvp included, bosses should be pve and if ppl want to play pvp make pvp events if I am trying to build my character and catch up, I can't because ppl who started early is monopolizing the bosses
1. You come off as whiney. 2. Youre right. 3. Need to get rid of alliances. 4. Wont get rid of alliances cuz game designed around it. 5. Thats why everyone quit.
Also the large pvp is EPIC. But doing it only twice a week.... wtf? I can only have fun twice a week..... or once every 2 weeks.... so i go to another game.
I am whining and thats why. I'm whining to the devs that the game loses it's beauty with the point 4 you made. It should be designed around it as long as it follows several sets of rules to make the game fair and engaging. for a new player - having to go vs everyone and seeing 40+ player from same guild allied with 40+ player with another this game loses it's beauty from 100 to 0 in 1 day.
And on my current server, you cant even choose a side. because there is no side. there's only one big alliance full of active pvp players and THAT IS IT. which perpetually forces players to give up on that content completely and stay PVE. which kills the beauty of the game.
I left a top alliance for this reason, i knew 4 guild alliances are killing the game. Most people are carried by numbers they are not good at all. If T&L just got rid of the alliance system, the game would be fun.
The problem is that some content is locked or inaccessible without a good guild. Many players already 3800 gear and cannot progress further because some gear is unattainable without guild raid or world boss 😅
I expect all guilds to go vs eachother, not one 60player alliance going vs all 10people guilds. even 100 players attack the 60, the 60 will win since 100 are split up against eachother in 10 people groups. otherwise ye, pvpa rea, so you get killed ez but its no issue.
Idk what the problem is. Not everyone wants to pvp all the time. Some guilds are just weaker and dont stand a chance thats how it is. You have like 30 ppl on a peace boss. It is a dead server. Where I am playing there ale hundreds and hundreds of ppl not participating in the pvp events and bosses, yet still there are hundreds fighting for conflict bosses. You can't balance the game around a server with such low numbers lol. My alliance shows up to adentus at peak hours with like 190/200 people and we fight with simmilar 2/3 alliances like that. You are complaining about +- 50 ppl from an aliance taking the boss when litteraly 1 stong gulid can go and wipe them all.
You're forgetting that If for whatever reason all the players who are in top 300 decide to make an alliance - it will be impossible for anyone else to compete.
@@St3xterrI hate to tell you dude it's an MMO if you want to play by yourself go play an RPG, also if you're worried about PVP is getting PVE Arch bosses then I hate to break it to you but you can do the same with the PVP bosses. And a helpful tip you should probably be in a group when you're doing bosses being as anything that you contribute to your group such as damage Buffs healing evasion or endurance is then also Recontributed back to you thus buffing your contribution on that boss giving you a higher likelihood that you would be getting a drop. Not to mention the fact that we are ranked in the top 30 guilds on Chernobog where all the streamers and sweaty pvp guilds are, yet we are purely a pve guild and still manage to get significant amount of drops, the key is to have your guild play together so that it gives you the best chance for drops
Unimaginative player reply. Tried thinking outside the box you live in ? It is not a matter of PvP skill in this game its a matter of numbers or so called zergs. Funny realy as in most PvP MMO's being a zergling is not exactly something to be proud of :D
video summary : 1-JOIN tnl a game advertised to large scale pvp 2-show us how dead the server is by going to peace boss with like 20 people in 3- goes to pvp solo and cries how he cant kill an alliance 4-tell the dev to fix the games most fun part (LARGE SCALE) just move the fucking server dont be a cry baby and show us how ur casual alliance cant compete against harcore pvp PS: in the server im playing in to get to rank 300 like u are in kill ranking u need 3k point u had 800 the SERVER IS DEAD ofc all pvp players are gonna move to the controlling alliance its good that the game insures top guys have everything actually u are on top for a reason
Zerg pvp only matters at the contested world bosses or castle siege and island if you want to compete for chests. Boonstone and Riftstone is guild on guild. They added peace world arch bosses to give everyone a chance to get those drops. You don't have to participate in the zerg pvp. Do PvP on your terms, arenas riftstone, boonstones. Goto island and many times it is a small conflict going on there. Dominion events is another place for a smaller amount of peeps doing pvp. I am in a small guild. I do enjoy watching some of the large conflicts between the two big alliances on my server.
@@Kevin-sg6ep "two big alliances" - there is no such thing on this server. There was and it disbanded. I quit the left alliance to make a new alliance to go against the only alliance that's left. But all that happens coz the game devs need to do fixes. All 300 members are bored of the game in that alliance without anyone to compete
Whai don't understand what this guy is crying about? This game is pvp and you're trying to play a game designed for guild verses guild by yourself and complaining you're dying at a conflict zone???what am I missing?
@St3xterr didn't you say YOU left the alliance? So who's fault is that? So you think everyone likes everyone in ever alliance? No. What I'm saying is don't complain about an alliance controling pvp bosses. That is what this game is about period. And if you are on a dead server transfer. You can make the lucent in 2 days no problem. This is a guild versus guild game. Start a guild, start and alliance do something productive. I will just never understand people complaining about intended gameplay mechanics. This is what the game is about! There will be times you are in the winning alliance and stacking loot. There will be times you're not. There are always smaller guilds on every server join one, build it, and fight. Or switch server to one that is more alive. But please, don't make TH-cam videos about You leaving a guild and then bring killed and calling people simps. And wondering why you can't go to a PVP conflict boss alone...
wtf is this rant... If you want to go up against full squad alliances who WILL be dominating the conflict bosses, then either get a group of guilds that want to compete or join such an alliance. The fact you quit and are now baby raging that a full squad alliance is merking your rag tag group of pve'ers is laughable... But I guess you got me to comment and won the TH-cam discoverability game so cheers to you I suppose.
I mean if it's anything like the other servers the big alliances go out of their way to grab all the top Pvpers and ensure there is no competition. No alliance is going to be formed that will compete with that. Ever. That's why it doesn't and hasn't happened on a single server. Lol. They aren't in it for the pvp. They want to farm for server mergers while pretending to be looking for good fights. It's a very thinly veiled joke.
LOL "I don't like alliances when they work against me, so can we make it so the alliances aren't actually allied because on my server I don't have strong enough friends" what a 20 minute video, wow.
@@St3xterr so what if you quit ? doesnt make sense that you want it to be remove in the game lol. every MMO has that kind of thing either same Guild, Faction Etc. maybe you got kicked and salty that you cant do PVP World Boss anymore. Its funny how you say "Look at their number from our number" I laugh so hard while you were whining about that part. If theres no other alliance who wants to fight them just transfer to server where there are alot of alliance fighting. You cant do something if people doesnt want to PVP.
For context, so people don't get confused: I was part of that big alliance and quit.
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I believe the best fix for this is Alliances only work for castle siege and limit it to 2 or 3 guilds per alliance for the duration of the siege . If its not castle siege time then your alliance means nothing. That way there all pvp content is basically you're guild vs all other guilds. This would give even small guilds a fighting chance. Easy fix for the devs right there, after siege all alliances either dont work or are auto disbanded and cannot be remade till next siege.
@@Andre-ye6mb Absolutely. I agree brother
Top guilds are finally eroding on my server and it honestly won't be long before they start losing siege because of it. Meanwhile the guilds of the other top 2 alliances are hard gaining, one of said guilds I am the leader of.
As annoying as it may be for some players, it's always been like a final challenge for our less powerful guilds to overcome in my eyes. Kind of like the server's final boss. We get closer to winning each battle, we've taken conflict bosses from them and even stopped their tax golem. So really, it's just a matter of perspective. If you choose to hate the game because of it, then you've already lost and may as well play something else. You just have to work hard to build a guild that can compete and form an alliance of guilds who have done the same.
@@minstrel7210 you can check my vids whether I hate it or love it, but also, you're right. That's when there are more than a couple of alliances..
In our case there was 2 and 1 won and the other disbanded. Now the entire server is "regrouping" to actually fight pvp since all top guilds are PvE focused, and nobody is fighting the throne. So whoever few pvp players there are, are trying to form a guild and a new alliance. But it's 2:1 ratio still
Everyone stops the tax golem it's never made it on any server ever. lol
If you can’t beat them… join them.
@@Dtown208 I started game and in 1 week I was with them. 2 weeks later I quit coz it got boring, lack of competition.
based on my opinion and experience, i think most PvP focused MMO never have even ground when it comes to actual battle, they simply win by outgear or outnumber their enemy, rarely you'll see someone win relying on their skill (on the open world, on arena things kinda different), because the game are designed that way. That's why i only focus on PvE when it comes to MMO. when it comes to PvP i would rather play something like MOBA or FPS game with somewhat proper rank system.
@@maunabesanika I see what you mean. I was doing the same but, after playing this game, I feel like both are combined into same game quite well, although could use some fixes here and there.
my question is why do they even have bosses that have pvp included, bosses should be pve and if ppl want to play pvp make pvp events
if I am trying to build my character and catch up, I can't because ppl who started early is monopolizing the bosses
No there is both. It's just, for a new player coming to he server, your experience is gonna be way harder that its supposed to, if you're into pvp.
1. You come off as whiney. 2. Youre right. 3. Need to get rid of alliances. 4. Wont get rid of alliances cuz game designed around it. 5. Thats why everyone quit.
Also the large pvp is EPIC. But doing it only twice a week.... wtf? I can only have fun twice a week..... or once every 2 weeks.... so i go to another game.
I am whining and thats why. I'm whining to the devs that the game loses it's beauty with the point 4 you made. It should be designed around it as long as it follows several sets of rules to make the game fair and engaging. for a new player - having to go vs everyone and seeing 40+ player from same guild allied with 40+ player with another this game loses it's beauty from 100 to 0 in 1 day.
And on my current server, you cant even choose a side. because there is no side. there's only one big alliance full of active pvp players and THAT IS IT. which perpetually forces players to give up on that content completely and stay PVE. which kills the beauty of the game.
@@St3xterr yeah all the good people compete to get into the main alliance so they can get loot. Then they zerg the server which sucks.
i would suggest two guild alliances instead of 4
Good luck, we need some competition
same shit also in my server...
I left a top alliance for this reason, i knew 4 guild alliances are killing the game. Most people are carried by numbers they are not good at all. If T&L just got rid of the alliance system, the game would be fun.
@@ShawonNelson you have to come join me man. I left the alliance just like you haha
they aint fixing that. anything that forces people to outspend each other is great for the company.
Well, but that kills the game very fast. so if they wanna keep up the people interested, they gotta :D
@St3xterr welp. this game has issues even before global. i mean, the game was dying in korea thats why they milking it via global audience.
Your alliance should only take affect when it’s siege besides that’s its every guild for themselves
@@GrinsGrave that's what I thought also, mash :))
@ personally I don’t mind the big alliances cause I am a blood thirsty pk player by heart but I will agree in TL it does get annoying at times
The problem is that some content is locked or inaccessible without a good guild. Many players already 3800 gear and cannot progress further because some gear is unattainable without guild raid or world boss 😅
what is that fishing spot, never seen one in the mountains?
I'm not sure what you're referring to :S
@@St3xterr 3:58
Thats a pvp area what do you expect to happen??
I expect all guilds to go vs eachother, not one 60player alliance going vs all 10people guilds. even 100 players attack the 60, the 60 will win since 100 are split up against eachother in 10 people groups. otherwise ye, pvpa rea, so you get killed ez but its no issue.
disgusting boring video, just explain whatever bullshit youre trying to say in 5mins im bored after 30 seconds
Thnx for the feedback man
Idk what the problem is. Not everyone wants to pvp all the time. Some guilds are just weaker and dont stand a chance thats how it is. You have like 30 ppl on a peace boss. It is a dead server. Where I am playing there ale hundreds and hundreds of ppl not participating in the pvp events and bosses, yet still there are hundreds fighting for conflict bosses. You can't balance the game around a server with such low numbers lol. My alliance shows up to adentus at peak hours with like 190/200 people and we fight with simmilar 2/3 alliances like that. You are complaining about +- 50 ppl from an aliance taking the boss when litteraly 1 stong gulid can go and wipe them all.
You're forgetting that If for whatever reason all the players who are in top 300 decide to make an alliance - it will be impossible for anyone else to compete.
@@St3xterrI hate to tell you dude it's an MMO if you want to play by yourself go play an RPG, also if you're worried about PVP is getting PVE Arch bosses then I hate to break it to you but you can do the same with the PVP bosses. And a helpful tip you should probably be in a group when you're doing bosses being as anything that you contribute to your group such as damage Buffs healing evasion or endurance is then also Recontributed back to you thus buffing your contribution on that boss giving you a higher likelihood that you would be getting a drop. Not to mention the fact that we are ranked in the top 30 guilds on Chernobog where all the streamers and sweaty pvp guilds are, yet we are purely a pve guild and still manage to get significant amount of drops, the key is to have your guild play together so that it gives you the best chance for drops
Is this your first mmo? Seems like it
lol, that's how pvp works. On all games where pvp exists there are alliances. Do your alliance
Weaklings always cry in PVP games.
Unimaginative player reply. Tried thinking outside the box you live in ? It is not a matter of PvP skill in this game its a matter of numbers or so called zergs. Funny realy as in most PvP MMO's being a zergling is not exactly something to be proud of :D
This game is ond of the frustated games ever....i hated but i played...'cause my friends only😮😅
video summary :
1-JOIN tnl a game advertised to large scale pvp
2-show us how dead the server is by going to peace boss with like 20 people in
3- goes to pvp solo and cries how he cant kill an alliance
4-tell the dev to fix the games most fun part (LARGE SCALE)
just move the fucking server dont be a cry baby and show us how ur casual alliance cant compete against harcore pvp
PS: in the server im playing in to get to rank 300 like u are in kill ranking u need 3k point u had 800 the SERVER IS DEAD ofc all pvp players are gonna move to the controlling alliance
its good that the game insures top guys have everything actually u are on top for a reason
Im a healer i cant kill anyone. Large scale is fun but small scale is issue coz every event has 200 vs 20
This server looks so empty. I have thousands ppl on every boss and atlest 5 portals in peace mode.
Zerg pvp only matters at the contested world bosses or castle siege and island if you want to compete for chests. Boonstone and Riftstone is guild on guild. They added peace world arch bosses to give everyone a chance to get those drops. You don't have to participate in the zerg pvp. Do PvP on your terms, arenas riftstone, boonstones. Goto island and many times it is a small conflict going on there. Dominion events is another place for a smaller amount of peeps doing pvp. I am in a small guild. I do enjoy watching some of the large conflicts between the two big alliances on my server.
@@Kevin-sg6ep "two big alliances" - there is no such thing on this server. There was and it disbanded. I quit the left alliance to make a new alliance to go against the only alliance that's left. But all that happens coz the game devs need to do fixes. All 300 members are bored of the game in that alliance without anyone to compete
Whai don't understand what this guy is crying about? This game is pvp and you're trying to play a game designed for guild verses guild by yourself and complaining you're dying at a conflict zone???what am I missing?
@@charleswood3575 you're missing the part where only one alliance is active. No second alliance is there for me to go to.
@St3xterr didn't you say YOU left the alliance? So who's fault is that? So you think everyone likes everyone in ever alliance? No.
What I'm saying is don't complain about an alliance controling pvp bosses. That is what this game is about period. And if you are on a dead server transfer. You can make the lucent in 2 days no problem.
This is a guild versus guild game. Start a guild, start and alliance do something productive. I will just never understand people complaining about intended gameplay mechanics. This is what the game is about!
There will be times you are in the winning alliance and stacking loot. There will be times you're not. There are always smaller guilds on every server join one, build it, and fight. Or switch server to one that is more alive.
But please, don't make TH-cam videos about You leaving a guild and then bring killed and calling people simps. And wondering why you can't go to a PVP conflict boss alone...
just make another alliance of 4 active guilds in pvp and go fight them...
That's why I quit them and I'm doing that
wtf is this rant... If you want to go up against full squad alliances who WILL be dominating the conflict bosses, then either get a group of guilds that want to compete or join such an alliance. The fact you quit and are now baby raging that a full squad alliance is merking your rag tag group of pve'ers is laughable... But I guess you got me to comment and won the TH-cam discoverability game so cheers to you I suppose.
I'm not raging against anything. I'm explaining the problem with the game that will eventually occur on every server
Well you have an alliance as well, this video doesnt make sense. You just have a weak af alliance thats it. Just quit lmao
I mean if it's anything like the other servers the big alliances go out of their way to grab all the top Pvpers and ensure there is no competition. No alliance is going to be formed that will compete with that. Ever. That's why it doesn't and hasn't happened on a single server. Lol.
They aren't in it for the pvp. They want to farm for server mergers while pretending to be looking for good fights. It's a very thinly veiled joke.
Do you think other alliances can get strong with these mechanics? 😂
Ded game already 20k player lol
The devs can save it though
LOL
"I don't like alliances when they work against me, so can we make it so the alliances aren't actually allied because on my server I don't have strong enough friends"
what a 20 minute video, wow.
@@Disconnected66 u should watch my first video before you talk man. I was part of that alliance and I QUIT IT
@@St3xterr so what if you quit ? doesnt make sense that you want it to be remove in the game lol.
every MMO has that kind of thing either same Guild, Faction Etc. maybe you got kicked and salty that you cant do PVP World Boss anymore.
Its funny how you say "Look at their number from our number" I laugh so hard while you were whining about that part.
If theres no other alliance who wants to fight them just transfer to server where there are alot of alliance fighting. You cant do something if people doesnt want to PVP.