Fixing Mario Kart Wii Retro Cups
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- Mario Kart Wii was one of the best selling Mario Kart games of all time, and with how well beloved the title is to so many people (casual or surprisingly competitive), It’s hard not to understand why. One of the biggest attributes comes from the Nitro tracks, highly regarded as the best. The Retro cups however.. aren’t really the best, but why leave them the way they are? What if they can be better? That’s what I am to do in this video!
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Good picks, but some criticism. I feel like you should’ve had two circuits tracks. Reason: because each game should get two retro circuits. It didn’t have to be two Mario Circuits, but you could’ve kept Mario Raceway. Snes Mario Circuit 3 could’ve stayed, but definitely moved to the Banana Cup. Or if you don’t want to have two Mario circuits, then you could’ve picked Mario Raceway and GCN Luigi Circuit. The whole thing with Frappe Snowland felt really weird. You should’ve kept Sherbet Land. It would have been too soon to even bring back Frappe Snowland. This last is a nitpick, so nothing for this impacted my thoughts on the video. But I felt like you should’ve used more Special Cup courses. They hardly get remade, and usually Mushroom and Flower Cup tracks get the spotlight. Although this is fine without being in the video. Overall, decent job, but glaring flaws.
Totally agree with you
@@ratabreak3902 thanks
@@nerdlywackoMe too
@@bryanpaulnintendo thanks man!
@@nerdlywackoHere's a video about fixing the retro tracks from DS to the Wii U DLC made by AtomicQuince.
th-cam.com/video/ALh8rECAqfQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=px5ClsvjP8SrMnTP
Heres pretty much what I would have done for MKDS - MK8
(Mario Kart DS)
-Shell Cup
.SNES Mario Circuit 1
.N64 Moo Moo Farm
.GBA Shy Guy Beach
.GCN Dry Dry Desert
-Banana Cup
.GCN Mushroom Bridge
.SNES Choco Island 1
.GBA Boo Lake
.N64 Sherbet Land
-Leaf Cup
.N64 DK Jungle Parkway
.GCN Yoshi Circuit
.SNES Bowser's Castle 3
.GBA Ribbon Road
-Lightning Cup
.GBA Sky Garden
.N64 Wario Stadium
.GCN Dino Dino Jungle
.SNES Rainbow Road
(Mario Kart Wii)
-Shell Cup
.GCN Peach Beach
.SNES Donut Plains 1
.DS Yoshi Falls
.N64 Mario Raceway
-Banana Cup
.DS Delfino Square
.SNES Ghost Valley 2
.GBA Sunset Wilds
.GCN Baby Park
-Leaf Cup
.SNES Mario Circuit 3
.DS Desert Hills
.N64 Frappe Snowland
.GCN Waluigi Stadium
-Lightning Cup
.DS Peach Gardens
.SNES Vanilla Lake 1
.GBA Bowser's Castle 3
.N64 Rainbow Road
(Mario Kart 7)
-Shell Cup
.DS Figure 8 Circuit
.GBA Riverside Park
.Wii Mushroom Gorge
.N64 Kalimari Desert
-Banana Cup
.SNES Mario Circuit 2
.N64 Choco Mountain
.DS Shroom Ridge
.Wii Wario's Gold Mine
-Leaf Cup
.DS DK Pass
.GCN Daisy Cruiser
.Wii Koopa Cape
.GBA Bowser's Castle 2
-Lightning Cup
.SNES Koopa Beach 2
.Wii Maple Treeway
.DS Airship Fortress
.GBA Rainbow Road
(Mario Kart 8)
-Shell Cup
.3DS Daisy Hills
.Wii Moo Moo Meadows
.DS Cheep Cheep Beach
.N64 Toad's Turnpike
-Banana Cup
.SNES Donut Plains 3
.Wii Coconut Mall
.3DS Pirahna Plant Slide
.GBA Mario Circuit
-Leaf Cup
.GCN Sherbet Land
.3DS Rock Rock Mountain
.DS Waluigi Pinball
.N64 Yoshi Valley
-Lightning Cup
.3DS DK Jungle
.GBA Broken Pier
.N64 Bowser's Castle
.GCN Rainbow Road
Very interesting.
I cannot believe it! The long awaited sequel is finally here!
Overall, fairly solid picks, and GBA Yoshi Desert was definitely a good choice for the Lightning Cup‘s first spot, replacing SNES Mario Circuit 3.
For the other 3 cups, the changes that I would make are:
• Keep N64 Mario Raceway in the Shell Cup as the second track, however, Moo Moo Farm is a pretty good choice. I actually would have chosen N64 Luigi Raceway, as it fits well for the Shell Cup as an early track.
• For the Banana Cup, I actually would have replaced SNES Choco Island 1 with 2 and fixed any issues that plagued the original track, removing any frustration given to players, 1 is ok, but it would have to be 5 laps if it was included here, I also would have replaced GCN Baby Park with either Daisy Cruiser (Removing it from the DS video, and putting Baby Park in the Shell Cup there, along with Dry Dry Desert in the Banana Cup) or Mushroom City, though the latter would have clashed with DS Shroom Ridge, so Daisy Cruiser would fit the bill better in my opinion. Baby Park does work better in Wii though, with the better item selection, and me wanting to replace it with Daisy Cruiser, was because it would later appear in 8 Deluxe. N64 Frappe Snowland or Sherbet Land being included here really depends, so I won’t complain too much about it, though they could have had N64 Sherbet Land appearing in DS, and Frappe Snowland in Wii, my thoughts personally.
• And finally, the Star Cup doesn’t really need too much changing, a good selection overall. It’s a shame that GCN Mario Circuit wasn’t included, because that is one of the better circuits, and GCN Waluigi Stadium would later return in 8 Deluxe, but not in Tour as of April. DS Tick Tock Clock would return in 8 Deluxe under its new form, but I personally like the original, if they could have spruced it up a bit, so that’s still good to see, and GBA Cheep Cheep Island is definitely a better version of Shy Guy Beach, even if it partly clashes with the N64 track, which thankfully doesn’t, since they’re not next to each other.
I will admit though, seeing that it took until the second DLC pack in 8 Deluxe for the GBA to get some proper love, is pretty sad to me, but I’m glad that they’re giving it a better chance, now with only the Special Cup to be remade.
Nice footage from Mario Kart Wii Deluxe by the way, I haven’t had a go at it, so I may have to check that out at some point.
Now that the DS and Wii are done, you don’t have to make videos on these, but in terms of courses, what courses are missing in 7 and 8 that you would like to see added instead of what we got?
And for 8 Deluxe, if there was a Battle Pass, what battle courses would you like to see return?
Overall, good for you for making this video, and it certainly is good to see how well a lot of the tracks fit, more than the DS, so top notch job mate!
Anyways, thanks for reading, and hopefully, I’ll see you next time! 👋
The Battle Pass thing is a video topic I want to cover as soon as possible, so I’ll keep that in mind.
Mario Kart 7 really had a few courses that didn’t stick out well, so if I had to pick.
GBA Lakeside Park > DS DK Pass
N64 Wario Stadium > N64 Kalimari Desert
For Mario Kart 8, I just wanted Wario Colosseum so.. I’d swap GCN Sherbet Land onto the Banana Cup and replace GCN Dry Dry Desert there.
@@GoldenDryBonesandStu, yeah, I agree on that. GBA Lakeside Park actually has a remake on CTGP-7, and that was definitely impressive for redesigning the environment of the track, but still keeping the original layout! And N64 Wario Stadium DOES deserve a proper remake, if Rainbow Road was made better in 8, why not this track in 7? Not forgetting Wario Colosseum replacing Dry Dry Desert all together, as that course is much more complex and fun.
We’re yet to find out the final 16 tracks for the Booster Course Pass, and for the ones I‘m hoping return, I would pick SNES Bowser Castle, if it does return in Tour, GBA Sunset Wilds, though Yoshi Desert is a close second, GCN Daisy Cruiser, Mushroom City and Dino Dino Jungle, Mushroom Bridge and DK Mountain are also possible, and Wii Koopa Cape and Rainbow Road, however, Dry Dry Ruins is a possibility since it is now in Tour, we‘ll have to wait for confirmation from Nintendo.
Honestly, Moo Moo Farm would be really cool if the fences were trickable. Imagine MKWii online with all the Funkies hugging the walls.
Long awaited sequel
Awesome video man! I enjoyed it very much
Yes! I've been waiting for this for a while!
Only thing I would change would be Waluigi Stadium->Wario Colosseum, which is much, much better.
Well here’s my take on how retro tracks need improvement in this game
Shell Cup:
GCN Peach Beach
DS Yoshi Falls
SNES Choco Island 1
N64 Mario Raceway
Banana Cup:
N64 Frappe Snowland
GBA Shy Guy Beach
DS Delfina Square
GCN Luigi Circuit
Leaf Cup:
DS Desert Hill
GBA Bowser Castle 3
N64 DK’s Jungle Parkway
GCN Waluigi Stadium
Lightening Cup:
SNES Ghost Valley 2
GCN Mushroom City
N64 Bowser Castle
DS Rainbow Road
I disagree with Frappe Snowland being here. Yes, some retro tracks are bound to return in future titles, but keep in mind that before Wii was released, there were only 16 retros that existed (not counting Super Circuit's extra tracks), so I feel that it’d be too early to reuse one in this timeline. I’d just keep N64 Sherbet Land there instead.
I am loving your videos.
Im glad someone agrees why Baby Park shouldve been in MK Wii.
Let's be real we were waiting for this since fix ds retro cups
Even though it’s not a desert track, I really think Cheese Land would fit well as the Lightning Cup’s opening track, but I’ll take Yoshi Desert
Cheese Land is way too easy, or atleast in Super Circuit.
@@ValiTheSaltMan Adding in a some obstacles and shortcuts would make it challenging
Pretty solid list, personally I think 1 retro circuit would be fine. Just the one thing that I always have a grip the retro grandprixs is that they don’t feel like they’d mirror an actual Nitro grand prix. 7 and 8 were close but failed to have a Bowser’s Castle right before rainbow road.
If I made a Retro Grandprix, I’d try to build it how Most Nitro Grandprixs offer, Circuits, Desert, Snow Track, Beach, Wario Track, DK/Jungle Track, Car Track, Bowser’s Castle, Rainbow Road.
Imo we still haven’t had a perfect Retro Grandprix
Also with what you said about not doing MK7 and MK8 retros. I do think it’s understandable why you don’t want to renovate them, but it would be cool if you did following the timeline of your videos. Since a lot of retros you used in your ds and Wii videos were used in 8. Plus, 7 needs some cleaning up with some of its retros. Mainly shifting the spots of some and removing one of the N64 tracks.
Finally, a fellow Yoshi Desert enjoyer. It really does go harder than a desert track from Super Circuit needed too lol
Where are all the 3ds and Mario Kart 8 tracks. I thought there would be some in this rework of retros.
Lol
I plan to buy a wii with the usbloader gx by the end of june
Here's my picks if we keep the prefixes and order the way they are:
Shell Cup:
GCN Peach Beach
DS Cheep Cheep Beach
SNES Ghost Valley 2
N64 Kalimari Desert
Banana Cup:
N64 Sherbet Land
GBA Shy Guy Beach
DS Delfino Square
GCN Waluigi Stadium
Leaf Cup:
DS DK Pass
GBA Bowser Castle 3
N64 Yoshi Valley
GCN DK Mountain
Lightning Cup:
SNES Vanilla Lake 2
DS Airship Fortress
GCN Wario Colosseum
N64 Bowser's Castle
Probably just me nitpicking here, but I feel like Sherbet Land does deserve to remain in the Banana Cup over Frappe Snowland, just so both games wouldn't feel redundant.
And maybe more bias for me, because it's weird having two default SNES tracks and then two unlockable GBA tracks. Would've been nice to see a GBA track around the Shell or Banana Cup.
Either way, this definitely is another W for Golden, once again giving us the Retro Tracks we would've had a lifetime ago.
I think SNES on the first two cups would make the GBA tracks feel like a reward to get.
I don't think the cups need fixing. I like them as they are; all the tracks translated perfectly to Mario Kart Wii and it's artstyle. Regardless of whether the coruses are people's favourites, I think it's a strong selection and wouldn't have it any other way.
Even Yoshi Falls?
Yes they do in some cases like it be way better to end the game with a retro rainbow road and having 3 Mario tracks is so stupid.
Shell Cup:
N64 Luigi Raceway
GCN Peach Beach
SNES Ghost Valley 2
DS Luigi’s Mansion
Banana Cup:
N64 Mario Raceway
GCN Daisy Cruiser
GBA Riverside Park
DS Waluigi Pinball
Leaf Cup:
DS Tick-Tock Clock
GBA Bowser Castle 3
N64 DK’s Jungle Parkway
GCN Waluigi Stadium
Lightning Cup:
GCN DK Mountain
DS Airship Fortress
N64 Bowser’s Castle
SNES Rainbow Road
My Wii retro track list
Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 3, N64 Kalimari Desert, GCN Baby Park, DS Luigi’s Mansion
Banana Cup: N64 Sherbet Land, GBA Cheep Cheep Island, DS Delfino Square, GCN Waluigi Stadium
Leaf Cup: SNES Chocolate Island 1, GBA Cheese Land, N64 DK Jungle Parkway, DS Tiki Tock Clock
Lightning Cup: GBA Broken Pier, DS Peach Gardens, GCN DK Mountain, N64 Bowser’s Castle
Can we get 7 and 8 now?
I never understood the snes track in the lightning cup. Like, a CIRCUIT? In the LIGHTNING CUP?!? And a lame circuit at that, like i think if a circuit would have fit, then it should have been mario circuit gcn or royal raceway. Eitherway, liked the video. MKWii retros arent the best, but they were certainly solid.
Also good job for keeping peach beach, you didnt kill off cataquack like most people would have done (because like, peach beach gets hated alot for some reason)
Here Is My List For Wii
Shell Cup:
GCN Mushroom Bridge
SNES Mario Circuit 2
N64 Koopa Troopa Beach
DS Luigi’s Mansion
Banana Cup:
N64 Sherbet Land
SNES Ghost Valley 1
GCN Daisy Cruiser
DS Delfino Square
Leaf Cup:
GBA Cheep Cheep Island
N64 Royal Raceway
GCN Waluigi Stadium
DS Peach Gardens
Lightning Cup:
GBA Sky Garden
GCN DK Mountain
DS Airship Fortress
N64 Bowser’s Castle
I don’t truly agree with Tick-Tock Clock. I like that it is consistent, but in all honesty, it would come at a cost; it would be too empty for a game like Mario Kart Wii. I would personally replace it with either Airship Fortress, or heck, even move DS Peach Gardens into the Leaf cup, and move Airship Fortress to the Lightning Cup, just to be safe. And Moo Moo Farm??? This would have been a no-brainer, just keep N64 Mario Raceway, or if you didn’t want two Mario Circuits, you could put GCN Yoshi Circuit and keep Mario Raceway but add a few more obstacles to it, to make it more challenging, like some Goombas. But in all honesty, why even replace N64 Sherbet Land when it is the more better choice that Frappe Snowland added twice? And I agree with @nerdywacko, replace GCN DK Mountain with GCN Bowser’s Castle, and N64 Bowser’s Castle with N64 Rainbow Road, to match the standard of Special Cup tracks.
I can't belive you kept n64 bowser castle at the end, because i don't like it as a ending, at least replace it whit SNES Rainbow Road
This has now been recommended to me
Is this a sign, or is TH-cam being extra generous today? Either way that’s crazy
Wii should have gotten Wario Colluseum instead
Here’s how I’d fix the DS & WII retro course selections:
* Mario Kart DS
- Grand Prix -
- Shell Cup
SNES Mario Circuit 1 (5 Lap)
N64 Moo Moo Farm (3 Lap)
GBA Riverside Park (3 Lap)
GCN Dry Dry Desert (3 Lap)
- Banana Cup
SNES Bowser Castle 1 (5 Lap)
N64 Frappe Snowland (3 Lap)
GBA Cheese Land (3 Lap)
GCN Mario Circuit (3 Lap)
- Leaf Cup
SNES Koopa Beach 1 (5 Lap)
N64 Choco Mountain (3 Lap)
GBA Sky Garden (3 Lap)
GCN Mushroom City (3 Lap)
- Lightning Cup
SNES Vanilla Lake 1 (5 Lap)
N64 Banshee Boardwalk (3 Lap)
GBA Bowser Castle 4 (3 Lap)
GCN Wario Colosseum (2 Lap)
(4 from each game)
- Battle -
SNES Battle Course 1
N64 Block Fort
* Mario Kart Wii
- Grand Prix -
- Shell Cup
N64 Luigi Circuit (3 Lap)
GBA Boo Lake (3 Lap)
GCN Baby Park (7 Lap)
DS Luigi’s Mansion (3 Lap)
- Banana Cup
SNES Mario Circuit 2 (3 Lap)
N64 Kalimari Desert (3 Lap)
DS Delfino Square (3 Lap)
GCN Mushroom Bridge (3 Lap)
- Leaf Cup
DS Peach Gardens (3 Lap)
GBA Bowser Castle 2 (3 Lap)
GCN Waluigi Stadium (3 Lap)
N64 Yoshi Valley (3 Lap)
- Lightning Cup
GCN DK Mountain (3 Lap)
DS Airship Fortress (3 Lap)
N64 Bowser’s Castle (3 Lap)
SNES Rainbow Road (3 Lap)
(4 from DS, GCN and N64,
2 from GBA and SNES)
- Battle
SNES Battle Course 2
N64 Skyscraper
GBA Battle Course 2
GCN Pipe Plaza
DS Twilight House
Just put the MK7 retros, there fixed, but then change the mario kart wii retros to the best mario kart wii retros
Here are my choices for Wii retro tracks. I feel like I have to keep it like the original game: 2 SNES, 4 N64, 2 GBA, 4 GCN, and 4 DS.
Shell Cup 🐢
GCN Peach Beach
DS Shroom Ridge (replaces DS Yoshi Falls)
SNES Ghost Valley 2
N64 Mario Raceway
Banana Cup 🍌
N64 Sherbet Land
GBA Riverside Park (replaces GBA Shy Guy Beach)
DS Delfino Square
GCN Waluigi Stadium
Leaf Cup 🍂
DS Peach Gardens (moved from the Lightning Cup, replaces DS Desert Hills)
GBA Bowser Castle 3
N64 DK's Jungle Parkway
GCN Mushroom City (replaces GCN Mario Circuit)
Lightning Cup ⚡
DS Mario Circuit (replaces SNES Mario Circuit 3)
SNES Koopa Beach 1 (replaces DS Peach Gardens as the second track)
GCN DK Mountain
N64 Bowser's Castle
Shroom Ridge's layout seems too complex for the Shell Cup
For my version of Mario Kart Wii Retro Tracks
Shell Cup:
N64 Luigi’s Raceway
DS Cheep Cheep Beach
SNES Ghost Valley 2
GCN Baby Park
Banana Cup:
SNES Mario Circuit 3
DS Delfino Square
N64 Sherbet Land
GCN Daisy Cruiser
Leaf Cup:
DS Shroom Ridge
GBA Cheese Land
N64 D.K Jungle Parkway
GCN Waluigi Stadium
Lightning Cup:
GBA Yoshi Desert
GCN Mushroom City
N64 Bowser’s Castle
DS Rainbow Road
Shell Cup 🐢
GCN Luigi Circuit
SNES Ghost Valley 2
DS Cheep Cheep Beach
N64 Mario Raceway
Banana Cup 🍌
SNES Mario Circuit 2
DS Delfino Square
GCN Baby Park
N64 Kalimari Desert
Leaf Cup🍁
N64 Wario Stadium
DS Peach Gardens
GBA Bowser Castle 3
GCN Waluigi Stadium
Lightning Cup ⚡️
DS Tick Tock Clock
GBA Broken Pier
N64 Bowser's Castle
GCN Rainbow Road
I'm kinda surprised that Luigi Raceway didn't get swapped for Royal Raceway.
Luigi Raceway isn't in Mario Kart Wii
Bro not only upgraded one of the worst track selections in the series that is mario kart ds but you also made the best track selection even better and that is mario kart wii. But shroom ridge and tick tock clock are bad choices although.
7:58 I care.
They should have added 5 GCN tracks 5 DS tracks 3 N64 2GBA 1 SNES
You didn't need to eliminate circuits entirely. 1 or 2 would be fine. Just no more than that.
Why does the mario kart wii gameplay have weird visuals
It’s either the capture card, the Wii U quality, or how Wii looked in general.
(or the Mario Kart Wii Deluxe mod being run on real hardware)
@@GoldenDryBonesandStuWii games on Wii U look worse than they do on a Wii due to the black borders and bad aspect ratio stretching.
And do a video where you ruin mk7’s retro tracks.