I have a canvas, double magazine pistol pouch made in ALICE system. I use it with snap button belt keepers. It's safer and much more confortable than original steel clips. I also tested Velcro cable organizers (sold in any computer and office store) with good results to fix MOLLE pouches. The hard plastic of proper MOLLE clips tends to tear the equipment along the time, so I learned to avoid any material harder or less flexible than the PALS ladders itself. Another thing I use in conjunction with the PALS system (to carry a rolled-up blanket, for example) are dog collars. My grandfather used this system on old backpacks that predated the ALICE system. It always worked well.
I have that very panel pouch used in this demo. excellent little pouch for small documents and/or items. it's great to see the actual people behind the product, and a great product at that!
Thanks for the lesson on weaving! I had my pouch on my pack, without the weave. However, weaving DOES make a nice and tight fit. Also, @ 5:44, that way is a MUCH easier way to get those clips off.
ALICE came out in 1973, which was at the very end of Vietnam war, and none of the ALICE gear ever made it there. What's commonly called an "ALICE clip", isn't. It was first used on M1956 gear, and called a "slide fastener". It was also part of the M1967 gear, (AKA M67). M67 gear wasn't usually known as LCE or MLCE, "Load Carrying Equipment"/"Modernized Load Carrying Equipment", but it was practically ALICE.
Im tryna get my ESEE5 Kydex sheath on a molle platform, but i find MOLLE LOKs too expensive. do these work as a substitute? They seem a bit more flexible which frightens me, the knife is quite heavy, at 500g sheathed weight.
These seem to be a much better option than getting one of those adapters for attaching ALICE pouches to PALS webbing. I might get a few, because I ended up getting an issue compass with an ALICE pouch, and I can't find a MOLLE version of the same pouch.
I have a Blackhawk Patrol Pack and am not familiar with it at all. The research that I have done indicates it has ALICE webbing, but I am confused by the loop portion of Velcro which is sewn in on the inside portion of the ALICE webbing. I have not seen any demonstrations, or accessories, on how to utilize this webbing to its fullest potential (ie, the Velcro portion). Is the Velcro to be used as simple as it seems? If so, it seems like it would not be fully secure. If not, will you direct me to a tutorial of this webbing that will better help me understand how to use it efficiently. Thank you.
Thank you for this video - it helps A LOT. I was figuring out the Malice clip. The embossed instructions 'raise tab to open' did not help at all. I just couldn't get a grip on the tab to raise it. Watched this video and problem solved.
I’ve got a Benchmade 7 Hook with their webbing pouch made by Tactical Tailor. It’s got three close rows of horizontal webbing in a single column on the sheath, but I need to mount it to a single column of double row webbing on the waist belt of my Aqualung Rogue BCD. Is it possible to use two of those one inch webbing clips clips with the Malice Clip to get that 90 degree orientation for mounting?
this is a perfect example that they can't leave good enough alone, these things are hard to put on and take off, I like the snap much better, last longer too.
Unnecessary complex, overengineered solution for PALS at least imo. Pain in the ass to get off mainly, and in the field you can forget it. I wanted to remove an admin pouhc mounted with these things, 20 minutes of cursing and another pair of hands was needed because of the angle you needed to make to get to the release tab and pull the clip up simultanously when you reached that. Felt like a fucking donkey. Regular PALS with press stud over this any day, unless you want that ALICE gear compatibility, then they do their job fine.
Neat video. Looks to be an easier release system and more adjustable than HSGI’s clips and the ability to get a more snug fit on an ALICE belt is a really nice bonus. I’d rather WTFstraps over the two though, easier install if you have a spoon and pliers. My issue with them is that they smell bad. However my preference is still the traditional strap that is attached to the pouch or whatever. I feel more confident that that won’t shear off. Also anyone know what plate carrier that green one was?
Not sure, can email me through site and I can take a pic for you, does not appear obvious like about 0.78125" center point to center point on holes. Close to .75" but a smidge over. Doesn't exactly align with mm either. Approx 4mm holes with 14mm spacing
Saw you at triggrcon2018 shooting the kriss vector. Are you going to start making more content? Combat shoots, gear, etc. You have good insight, detail, and get VERY intimate with your weapon systems. Stay in the fight
As long as you make sure to click them into latch fully there should be practically no way them to come undone on their own. I suppose also worth inspecting the connection zone to make sure no damage there is only other thing I can think of.
I like malice for something thats gonna get set and stay there for a long time..They are a big pain in the ass to take apart though, thats the only drawback
Without a helper tool they can be a little difficult to release, but no biggie as long as one has something like a multitool around. In the balance of security, usability, and durability, Malice Clips stand out as a good solution.
Hey cool informative video, but i'm interested in getting the Ka-Bar MSM 002 in Black paracord handle and would like to know WHERE I can purchase please?
I HATE THESE! I have to pry the tab up to get it in, but then the tab is useless and doesn't go back down.. Tried shaking my belt an it came right off... Ima use zipties
You have the perfect voice for either a pilot or a radio host
First time using MALICE clips. Your tutorial was easy to follow and clearly filmed. GG and thanks!
I came for a super quick demonstration, and stayed because it was so well explained and interesting. Nicely done.
I have a canvas, double magazine pistol pouch made in ALICE system. I use it with snap button belt keepers. It's safer and much more confortable than original steel clips.
I also tested Velcro cable organizers (sold in any computer and office store) with good results to fix MOLLE pouches. The hard plastic of proper MOLLE clips tends to tear the equipment along the time, so I learned to avoid any material harder or less flexible than the PALS ladders itself.
Another thing I use in conjunction with the PALS system (to carry a rolled-up blanket, for example) are dog collars. My grandfather used this system on old backpacks that predated the ALICE system. It always worked well.
MALICE Clips are for connecting PALS to PALS (rather than MOLLE to PALS). This was a helpful video.
I have that very panel pouch used in this demo. excellent little pouch for small documents and/or items. it's great to see the actual people behind the product, and a great product at that!
Thanks for the lesson on weaving! I had my pouch on my pack, without the weave. However, weaving DOES make a nice and tight fit. Also, @ 5:44, that way is a MUCH easier way to get those clips off.
Thank you, great video, I had it wrong. Getting the malice clips unhooked was stupid hard for me. They will stay where they are until I am buried!
ALICE came out in 1973, which was at the very end of Vietnam war, and none of the ALICE gear ever made it there. What's commonly called an "ALICE clip", isn't. It was first used on M1956 gear, and called a "slide fastener". It was also part of the M1967 gear, (AKA M67). M67 gear wasn't usually known as LCE or MLCE, "Load Carrying Equipment"/"Modernized Load Carrying Equipment", but it was practically ALICE.
Thanks for the extra detail. I suppose "Vietnam Era" is a more appropriate term.
Thank you sir. And you have such a pleasant voice. Much appreciated.
It's really a genius design. I'm glad you mentioned any tool that will fit will do the job. I am now able to run these tool-less.
I like adjustability when I mount.
Thanks a bunch, we only used molle in the military so when I was looking at pouches for my kit I had no idea what malice clip was.
Excellent video! Very informative, and a pleasant voice!
Well, I think I am fully schooled now. Thanks for your details and history.
Love you little class I'm just getting into the gear right now this is nice to see
Thanks for the great tutorial. I don't have a whole lot of experience, but I am trying to put together my war belt!
Im tryna get my ESEE5 Kydex sheath on a molle platform, but i find MOLLE LOKs too expensive. do these work as a substitute? They seem a bit more flexible which frightens me, the knife is quite heavy, at 500g sheathed weight.
These seem to be a much better option than getting one of those adapters for attaching ALICE pouches to PALS webbing. I might get a few, because I ended up getting an issue compass with an ALICE pouch, and I can't find a MOLLE version of the same pouch.
I have a Blackhawk Patrol Pack and am not familiar with it at all. The research that I have done indicates it has ALICE webbing, but I am confused by the loop portion of Velcro which is sewn in on the inside portion of the ALICE webbing. I have not seen any demonstrations, or accessories, on how to utilize this webbing to its fullest potential (ie, the Velcro portion). Is the Velcro to be used as simple as it seems? If so, it seems like it would not be fully secure. If not, will you direct me to a tutorial of this webbing that will better help me understand how to use it efficiently. Thank you.
dude thank you! saved me from a ton of frustration!
Good video, gets tight to the point with no BS.
what if the webbing for you medpack is vertical and your belt webbing is horizontal?
Thank you for this video - it helps A LOT. I was figuring out the Malice clip. The embossed instructions 'raise tab to open' did not help at all. I just couldn't get a grip on the tab to raise it. Watched this video and problem solved.
It’s been a while however this is exactly why I came… here.
Very helpful video. Thanks!
I’ve got a Benchmade 7 Hook with their webbing pouch made by Tactical Tailor. It’s got three close rows of horizontal webbing in a single column on the sheath, but I need to mount it to a single column of double row webbing on the waist belt of my Aqualung Rogue BCD. Is it possible to use two of those one inch webbing clips clips with the Malice Clip to get that 90 degree orientation for mounting?
Sorry I don't have a Aqualung Rogue BCD to confirm, but malice clips are pretty cheap if want to give it a try.
Nice to see you again!!!! Great video
this is a perfect example that they can't leave good enough alone, these things are hard to put on and take off, I like the snap much better, last longer too.
Unnecessary complex, overengineered solution for PALS at least imo. Pain in the ass to get off mainly, and in the field you can forget it. I wanted to remove an admin pouhc mounted with these things, 20 minutes of cursing and another pair of hands was needed because of the angle you needed to make to get to the release tab and pull the clip up simultanously when you reached that. Felt like a fucking donkey. Regular PALS with press stud over this any day, unless you want that ALICE gear compatibility, then they do their job fine.
Neat video. Looks to be an easier release system and more adjustable than HSGI’s clips and the ability to get a more snug fit on an ALICE belt is a really nice bonus.
I’d rather WTFstraps over the two though, easier install if you have a spoon and pliers. My issue with them is that they smell bad. However my preference is still the traditional strap that is attached to the pouch or whatever. I feel more confident that that won’t shear off.
Also anyone know what plate carrier that green one was?
Do you know the hole size and spacing for drilling if one was to design a MALICE compatible hard-shell? TT's website has no technical dimension data.
Not sure, can email me through site and I can take a pic for you, does not appear obvious like about 0.78125" center point to center point on holes. Close to .75" but a smidge over. Doesn't exactly align with mm either. Approx 4mm holes with 14mm spacing
Intetesting, .75 was my assumption, could just be poor tolerancing. Thanks for the info 👍
Saw you at triggrcon2018 shooting the kriss vector. Are you going to start making more content? Combat shoots, gear, etc. You have good insight, detail, and get VERY intimate with your weapon systems. Stay in the fight
That swing in your voice sounds familiar. Where you from, cowboy?
God I wish you guys still made that kabar
I do hate it when people throw PALS/MOLLE around willy-nilly. Busting out some real OG gear there mate interesting watch.
Thanks for information, well done.
Im having issues with them coming undone when mounted to a belt. Do you know a way to remedy this?
As long as you make sure to click them into latch fully there should be practically no way them to come undone on their own. I suppose also worth inspecting the connection zone to make sure no damage there is only other thing I can think of.
@@MILSPECMONKEY it could be worn out, I'll try taping around the tab area to see if that'll keep it tighter
stumbled on your video looking for a way to attatch things to the ilbe system straps and waist belt good info here but sadly dose not help me
Ditto, my favorite Platapus pack is light on attachment points
Thank you
Thorough as always. Good video.
I like malice for something thats gonna get set and stay there for a long time..They are a big pain in the ass to take apart though, thats the only drawback
Without a helper tool they can be a little difficult to release, but no biggie as long as one has something like a multitool around. In the balance of security, usability, and durability, Malice Clips stand out as a good solution.
50 Stitches Steel I have found the molle stix from Vanguard to work well when I need quick removable.
Hey cool informative video, but i'm interested in getting the Ka-Bar MSM 002 in Black paracord handle and would like to know WHERE I can purchase please?
Amazing!! Thanks for sharing!!
Very Very Well done!
Good Video/Info.
Very helpful video, thanks
Damn fine video, thanks
What's the link to that pouch???
Which pouch did you want to know more about?
Thank you for the video and it was helpful.
Tab isn't locking!!!
I HATE THESE! I have to pry the tab up to get it in, but then the tab is useless and doesn't go back down.. Tried shaking my belt an it came right off... Ima use zipties
great information thanks :)
It was man thanks
The big questions is... Malice clips or WTF straps???
I prefer Blackhawk Speed Clips.
Speedclips are easy to use, but require more vertical PALS platform to latch onto so run into a lot of mounting possibility issues.
It's Dr. Strange!
In fucking possible to remove these I'm thinking about cutting them out
Yeager told me about you
Is it 2007?
The video is for those new to tactical gear, there didn't seem to be great tutorials on the subject already on youtube for some reason.
Alice is such a joke
Great video. Thank you kindly.
Thanks for the video very helpful