Good job on the testing! It pretty much confirms what another TH-camr mentioned, and I was thinking. Last night I had very little time to test out the "supposed" recoil fix, for myself, and had varying results, due to net code. I also HAD to take into account how UNRELIABLE the mechanics are, in this game! Granted, I'm on PC, so the comparison of the results would differ slightly, BUT, still wouldn't account for the obvious of it NOT being totally fixed.
I hate knowing this is another game where I can't trust the patch notes to notify me of all the changes, the changes/fixes don't hold up under scrutiny, and the devs don't test fuck all before shipping the patch.
Any chance of a spreadsheet listing all attachments and quality checks? I already can't remember half of them and it would be great to have a "ready reckoner" to refer to.
With the update to vertical sens, how much should we turn it down to feel like the old one? I had mine 50-50 but now it's weird. Would 50-45 feel more like it used to? I can do it by feel but I'd prefer know the real values/:
That I'm not sure of. But nothing you can do will make it the exact same, since the change was only to Vertical ADS sens. And we can only change either vertical sens entirely, or the multiplier for all ADS sens both vertical and horizontal. 5 sounds about right though, but remember turning that down 5 will also lower your non ads sens by 5
Well guys,i think this ipdate just may finish kiling this game,the few friends ik who still play just stopped and Xdefiant isnt on the most played games list anymore R I.P Xdefiant
Just thinking out loud, but could this be caused by the bugged recoil recovery stat? Recoil recovery only works when no right stick input is provided iirc. Therefore when you test with right stick input you're no longer getting the benefit of recoil recovery and that is possibly the reason for your findings?
@@NyteFalll yes, but if it was working correctly it would have an effect between each round fired so therefore recoil recovery will have an overall reduction effect for recoil on full auto weapons. At least that's how it works in other games like past cod titles.
@Peter-uf4yn not sure how it works but recoil recovery shouldn't be changed between using a rapid fire or muzzle booster and the base acr so I'm not sure what your trying to say. It is also late lol
@@NyteFalll No you're missing my point. It's not the attachment that skews the results. It's whether you're providing right stick input. So having more recoil while giving right stick input could be because of recoil recovery and not because the rapid fire attachments are bugged. I think you'd get more recoil while holding the right stick even if you took off the rapid fire attachments.
So the more you try to control recoil the more recoil there is, But the change is so minimal that what they can see on paper (calculations) makes no meaningful difference in the game?
Essentially yes. But the real problem is that it's not giving the actual 10 or 20% recoil increase like it should and the rapid fire and muzzle booster combo doesn't really give any increased recoil over just the rapid fire by itself
Well define working lol, it no longer gives less recoil when not trying to control it, but now it gives more when you do try to control it and it's certainly not giving the correct increases like it says
They absolutely ruined the game with this update. The shotguns are everywhere. You can't take on close fights with an AR anymore. They need to add a choice of having any 2 weapons in your loadout if it's going to be this way... I would have never played this game the way it is currently...
@@NyteFalll I could before the update. They only let us choose one primary. That's why I said let us choose two weapons in our loudouts. I'll poop on the shotgun with an SMG... Only allowing us to choose 1 weapon will always throw the meta off. But ya I've never liked games with OP shotguns. I think that's a pretty universal thought process... Maybe bots like it IDK
@@chasegraham6807 they gave us a game that played a certain way. They have completely changed that. I've watched over the years and this never goes over well...
@acidspaz4252 I think the shotgun buff was a bit over the top but you should just use weapons like they are intended hence why they made the updates. This would be like saying you can take on a sniper with an smg
Lmk what you find....you showed the difference between PC and console and the fact that the KD stats were adjusted a day later leads me to believe other things may have been implemented in a day later....just curious
@@regisdaniels354 Played earlier tonight, and i wouldn’t say that they have touched any movement stuff. Atleast from what i could see. (Meaning: Absolute sweat bunnyjump strafejump shooting all over the place😂)
@xGamerGeek air strafing from left to right or vice versa just feels slower and more sluggish....it's like your not in air as long to strafe as far back the opposite way of your initial jump
@@regisdaniels354 well that depends on youre gun and attachments tho. But that was only my take on it, i haven’t testing anything😅 I have to check more tomorrow.
Awesome content, i think they need to hire you as a quality tester because clearly they dont even test it themselves 😂😂
@@xKibz 😆 they probably wouldn't pay me enough
Agreed🙏🏼😬
Good job on the testing! It pretty much confirms what another TH-camr mentioned, and I was thinking. Last night I had very little time to test out the "supposed" recoil fix, for myself, and had varying results, due to net code. I also HAD to take into account how UNRELIABLE the mechanics are, in this game! Granted, I'm on PC, so the comparison of the results would differ slightly, BUT, still wouldn't account for the obvious of it NOT being totally fixed.
I hate knowing this is another game where I can't trust the patch notes to notify me of all the changes, the changes/fixes don't hold up under scrutiny, and the devs don't test fuck all before shipping the patch.
That's why I'm here
Any chance of a spreadsheet listing all attachments and quality checks? I already can't remember half of them and it would be great to have a "ready reckoner" to refer to.
I think someone in my discord started to make one I'll have to find it
With the update to vertical sens, how much should we turn it down to feel like the old one?
I had mine 50-50 but now it's weird.
Would 50-45 feel more like it used to?
I can do it by feel but I'd prefer know the real values/:
That I'm not sure of. But nothing you can do will make it the exact same, since the change was only to Vertical ADS sens. And we can only change either vertical sens entirely, or the multiplier for all ADS sens both vertical and horizontal. 5 sounds about right though, but remember turning that down 5 will also lower your non ads sens by 5
KD stats were adjusted when I first logged on today....surprisingly surprised 🎉
what a shocker lol
Well guys,i think this ipdate just may finish kiling this game,the few friends ik who still play just stopped and Xdefiant isnt on the most played games list anymore
R I.P Xdefiant
Ooof
Just thinking out loud, but could this be caused by the bugged recoil recovery stat? Recoil recovery only works when no right stick input is provided iirc. Therefore when you test with right stick input you're no longer getting the benefit of recoil recovery and that is possibly the reason for your findings?
@@Peter-uf4yn the recoil recovery only send it back to where you started firing doesn't mess with recoil at all
@@NyteFalll yes, but if it was working correctly it would have an effect between each round fired so therefore recoil recovery will have an overall reduction effect for recoil on full auto weapons. At least that's how it works in other games like past cod titles.
@Peter-uf4yn not sure how it works but recoil recovery shouldn't be changed between using a rapid fire or muzzle booster and the base acr so I'm not sure what your trying to say. It is also late lol
@@NyteFalll No you're missing my point. It's not the attachment that skews the results. It's whether you're providing right stick input. So having more recoil while giving right stick input could be because of recoil recovery and not because the rapid fire attachments are bugged. I think you'd get more recoil while holding the right stick even if you took off the rapid fire attachments.
@@NyteFalll for clarity I'm referring to your final test, not the others, just the last one
So the more you try to control recoil the more recoil there is, But the change is so minimal that what they can see on paper (calculations) makes no meaningful difference in the game?
Essentially yes. But the real problem is that it's not giving the actual 10 or 20% recoil increase like it should and the rapid fire and muzzle booster combo doesn't really give any increased recoil over just the rapid fire by itself
SO ITS still not working?
Well define working lol, it no longer gives less recoil when not trying to control it, but now it gives more when you do try to control it and it's certainly not giving the correct increases like it says
@@NyteFalll WTF are these guys doing man🤦🏻♂️🤣
They absolutely ruined the game with this update. The shotguns are everywhere. You can't take on close fights with an AR anymore. They need to add a choice of having any 2 weapons in your loadout if it's going to be this way... I would have never played this game the way it is currently...
@@acidspaz4252 you shouldn't be taking up close fights with an AR though
ARs aren’t supposed to compete up close with shotguns or SMGs.
@@NyteFalll I could before the update. They only let us choose one primary. That's why I said let us choose two weapons in our loudouts. I'll poop on the shotgun with an SMG... Only allowing us to choose 1 weapon will always throw the meta off. But ya I've never liked games with OP shotguns. I think that's a pretty universal thought process... Maybe bots like it IDK
@@chasegraham6807 they gave us a game that played a certain way. They have completely changed that. I've watched over the years and this never goes over well...
@acidspaz4252 I think the shotgun buff was a bit over the top but you should just use weapons like they are intended hence why they made the updates. This would be like saying you can take on a sniper with an smg
Is it me or is air strafing nerfed a tad bit??
@regisdaniels354 haven't played yet today so not sure
Lmk what you find....you showed the difference between PC and console and the fact that the KD stats were adjusted a day later leads me to believe other things may have been implemented in a day later....just curious
@@regisdaniels354 Played earlier tonight, and i wouldn’t say that they have touched any movement stuff. Atleast from what i could see. (Meaning: Absolute sweat bunnyjump strafejump shooting all over the place😂)
@xGamerGeek air strafing from left to right or vice versa just feels slower and more sluggish....it's like your not in air as long to strafe as far back the opposite way of your initial jump
@@regisdaniels354 well that depends on youre gun and attachments tho. But that was only my take on it, i haven’t testing anything😅 I have to check more tomorrow.