1:14 SO SO TRUE I was hoping of the same, since I was convinced. LIKE GUYS DO YOU SEE EPISODE 7 OR NO?! THEY LITERALLY HAD SHOWN WHAT IT DID TO MIZUKI AND HOW DISRESPECTFUL THE COMMENTS ARE ABOUT HER
The fact that people are ready to hate on their favorite character just because they don't want to accept fact that have been proved to be acceptable and biological is just insane
as a nonbinary and transmasc(?) person that is a kanade and mizuki fan, TJANK YOU…ive seen a reply replying to a comment that mizuki is a “boy” which made me UPSET…
THISS!!! I kinda wish ppl saw how important this topic was instaad of just being like "oh why is the pjsk fandom so focused on her gender blahblahblah" because like, as a trans person myself who isn’t even out yet as i just realized it(esp in this political climate), I do like Mizuki for their character and storyline and how she never felt like she could get emotionally close to anyone again - but their gender is ALSO a part of why she feels that way because of how she was bullied for it and stuff And yes I know both crossdressers and trans ppl could relate to her story. But two lines in Mizu5 confirm that she is canonically transfem I think - the "so youre a guy too" and the "normal girl" comment. Because that shows Mizuki does identify as fem in some way but they dont accept her as a "normal" girl because shes amab and theyre jerks. Also I saw in a comment section where there was some Mizuki discourse that crossdressers actually *aren’t* that welcome/accepted in Japan, but still, my point about the Mizu5 lines still stands with the combo of the "guy" and "normal girl" comments. Tysm for this vid btw!!! Was getting really sick of stuff happening lately oof Haha rant over 🤑 Anygay Mizuki is queen 😎😎😎
@src147 so true about not making a part of Mizuki to be a taboo. Saying things like "Mizuki is not about gender at all" is only worsening the issue. Since if she wasn't, no one would have ever know what's wrong going on around her. I used to say these things too, because I was afraid to confront people on this topic. But when I realized my own position, I thought that if Mizuki were my friend, I would definitely want to defend her about that, since dressing cute is a part of her and she is getting misgendered because of that. This does matter, just like her cheerful persona and fragile character. It all matters, every each part of her. And these parts cannot be disconnected just by "Mizuki is not... *etc*". I mean, that's what people say and niigo does too. But they know Mizuki personally and that's how they genuinely feel. They say so, because they already DO accept her identity. In our world yet, people would say "Mizuki is Mizuki" only to avoid conflict or serious talks/acknowledging Mizuki the same way niigo do. As for me, I only ever heard my mom say "You are you and this is what matters". Word in word. Other close people who cared for me told me "Just stay yourself, I love you the way you are". They said it because they indeed accepted my personal situation and feelings, not just to brush it off like proseka fandom does when it comes to Mizuki. She needs real acknowledgement, not a phantom one
I saw one guy who said that she regretted it and that is why he called her a guy.. i might have gone a bit overboard and said something like "you disgust me" but idc, because he does hahah
I remember how once I got death and dox threats because I called Mizuki he. Did I deserved it :)? I was depressed, and others bullying almost ended me. Did I actually deserved it because people treat fictional character as real person, and real person as fictional character? It’s hard when u try find happiness and reason in fandom, and fandom start bullying u cause little mistake. Wow ❤.
@@BlueFire-guyAlthough I agree that telling someone to kill themself over something is wrong, I still would like to know why you had called Mizuki a "he" Even if you think it's not a big deal, it's not just being disrespectful to the character. It's being disrespectful towards transgenders, as you're calling Mizuki the wrong pronouns instead of what they're comfortable with. It's like calling someone the other gender when they're clearly not, or if they're trans.
mizuki has not clarified their pronouns personally iirc so im still referring to them neutrally. but god people who use "he" on them irk me so hard LMAO
I'm worried I'll get attacked for this, but I am personally sticking to calling Mizuki they/them. Not because I think Mizuki is nonbinary, but because Mizuki themself has not clarified to US whether or not they are a guy or transfem. It just doesn't seem right for us to assume anything either way. When they cut off Mizuki's reveal to Nightcord in Kanade's side story, it was because it was for Niigo and Niigo alone, not for us. So I will continue to refer to Mizuki neutrally until they reveal it to us, regardless of whether it ever happens or not. And we really don't NEED to know, because we should love Mizuki regardless of what they see themself as, whether that be a girl, a boy, or neither.
I like that about Mizuki's explanation to Kanade and Mafuyu being cut off because it was for them, not us, I was initially upset, but now that makes perfect sense
@CaptsuneMiku To be fair I wasn’t the one who came up with the interpretation, it was a comment I saw and I don’t remember where, but I was taken with it so I mentioned it! :)
@snicksss I was shocked after realizing we wouldn't know it directly, still. Partly I needed that to make the transphobic part of the fandom to acknowledge Mizuki for who she is (I hope it's not bad if I use these pronouns here). When that didn't happen I thought, "Oh!". I was disappointed but then I also thought "perhaps this was only the matter of niigo and actually it IS their business, not ours. We are looking from the outside. But only members of niigo are allowed to know full details". For us, fans, it's still a secret... And yet, my perception of Mizuki never changed - same is for niigo!! I also watched a couple of long reviews (1 and 4 hours) and what I can say.. Sega is majorly supporting LGBTQ community ever since. There are also many Sonic reviews contemplating about who might have this or other sexuality.. lol.. but anyway, in fact they held many lgbt friendly events in Japan and exposed the community to higher scale, which is very accepting for the Japanese. Yknow, in Japan sexuality is sticking to old patriarchic version, at least the one after the western world invaded Japan in 19th century. Before that, ever since the 8th century, for men there existed an elite culture. Basically men were gay and it was normal. For lesbians it was hard since women were uneducated and considered "the lower class of people that is just silly and copying our elite culture". Therefore lesbians were unrecognized even though they may have existed the same way. That all is partly a reason for me to be openly direct of my position of calling Mizuki a girl. But I sometimes use they/them as an old habit so it's totally okay!! No one would consider you a villain (..rreference) as long as noone misgenders Mizuki as a "boy" X))
@ I won’t disregard your personal opinion, but it seems weird to say Mizuki being referred to as a boy is factually wrong. We really don’t know how Mizuki feels they are, which is why I am referring to Mizuki in a neutral way. If Mizuki identifies as a boy and simply prefers cute clothing, that is fine. If Mizuki identifies as a girl, that’s fine too. And if Mizuki is nonbinary, that is also fine. Again, whatever Mizuki is, if the time ever comes that they reveal it to us, we should accept it no matter what, because Mizuki is Mizuki and nothing will change that. Sorry if this feels like I’m imposing my opinion onto you!
From the start, I always thought mizuki was a girl. Mizuki WANTS to be represented as a GIRL, and it’s sad that ppl don’t see that. And why Russian mizuki fans being the transphobes..?
I had an argument with someone from Kazakhstan over mizuki (he started it) and he said that if it was American mizuki would be trans because america is gay but it’s in japan and japan is homophobic so she’s a boy and then later sent me death threats. More detail: he was the one being mean and told me to grow up because wearing skirts and having long hair doesn’t make you a girl (I know. He wasn’t saying attention to any of my arguments and was being stubborn :C) then said that I was being rude ti him and betrayed him bc he trusted me or something idk and told me to lock my doors and I said “WHAT THE FUCK??? YOUR THREATEMTING TO FIND ME OVER A STUPID ARGUMENT???” He also threatened to do things worse then murder to me and later when he apologized (I don’t even know why I forgave him, I was so paranoid the whole day) he said he was just overwhelmed- also sometime before this, because I am nonbinary and just relate to mizuki in general, I used personal experiences and stuff and he said something like “nobody cares about you we’re talking about mizuki” then later said he understands mizuki the best because he relates to her but was also saying that she felt like she had to run away for no reason (I blocked him later bc if other bad stuff he did) Sorry for kinda venting
Imo, in the end of the day nothing was confirmed, so people can still have their own interpretation of the story. Vilifying people with different opinions is toxic, same as calling your favorite ship canon unironically. And don't forget that Mizuki is a fictional character, so don't attack real people cause of disagreement. I personally consider Mizuki trans, but it wouldn't surprise nor upset me if she ended up being a crossdresser. Both interpretations are valid and don't lessen her character, imo.
True, but lets not harass people just a reminder, mizuki is good representation for trans people AND crossdressers who have felt they had to change their indentity to not be judged, Mizuki overall is a great character who is relatable to many fans, Also lets remember that mizuki is a fictional character and not real. If you are genuinely hurt by people not referring to her by her pronouns then you need to step back, its not healthy to be that attached to a fictional character and its the reason why so much of the community is toxic.
@@skylarsouthhearth1523 sorry if the video came of as rude :( and we'll it's true they are fictional but like I don't know how to explain it but it hurts to see other people refer to them as a boy 🙁 (iykwim) 🙏🙏
@@No.1_Hanasato_Minori_Fan Oh no it's fine, I get that it's a little hurtful I just meant that having unhealthy attachments to fictional characters isn't good, It was a very good video and not rude at all!
@skylarsouthhearth1523 mhmmm... I choose to be toxic for the sake of protecting lgbt rights.. sorry not sorry huh Firefly in honkai star is also a fictional character with a fictional disease but Tomori Kusunoki and Firefly are experiencing similar types of experience. Tomori has EDS, a rare genetic illness causing her joints issues, and that's why she can't perform on stage after being diagnosed in 2022. She retired from Setsuna role, her big love. And she wrote about her own pain and life experience in her own songs. Or Kanade was also made off based on Tomori's health. Kanade is fictional wdym!! Why do people care!! No, it does matter whether it's fictional or not. Any fiction is based off real people's life experience and feelings. You can't create a fiction that is unrealistic. It's impossible and there is aaaalllwaaaayyyss a human factor. Sorry bud, I have a different opinion :/
@skylarsouthhearth1523 harass... Russian fandom harrases people the most lol, and the English fandom is the most open minded one, the friendly one that I've ever been :/ Sorry not sorry but I choose to be toxic when it's about protecting the rights of lgbtq minority. And fiction is based off real people's experiences and feelings, I'd have a lot to say in favour of it. If noone cared for fictional characters, people wouldn't have a chance to develop empathy outside society. People who read books or play lore games (you continue the list) have a lot more compassion and understanding, or deeper feelings compared to those who lead a trivial routine life surrounded by people they have nothing common with and experience everyone and everything only on superficial level
@skylarsouthhearth1523 harass... Russian fandom harrases people the most lol, and the English fandom is the most open minded one, the friendly one that I've ever been :/ Sorray not sorray but I choose to be toxic when it's about protecting the rights of lgbtq minority. And fiction is based off real people's experiences and feelings, I'd have a lot to say in favour of it. If noone cared for fictional characters, people wouldn't have a chance to develop empathy outside society. People who read books or play lore games (you continue the list) have a lot more compassion and understanding, or deeper feelings compared to those who lead a trivial routine life surrounded by people they have nothing common with and experience everyone and everything only on superficial level
![Pjsekai characters as YouTubers! [in my opinion] 🎥](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VlRjsJzWzhw/mqdefault.jpg)
WTF THIS VIDEO BLEW UP?? Thank you guys for showing so much support. Together and with Minori we can beat the transphobes ❤❤🍀🍀
CAUSE ITS RIGHT RAHH
1:14 SO SO TRUE
I was hoping of the same, since I was convinced. LIKE GUYS DO YOU SEE EPISODE 7 OR NO?! THEY LITERALLY HAD SHOWN WHAT IT DID TO MIZUKI AND HOW DISRESPECTFUL THE COMMENTS ARE ABOUT HER
IKR??? Mizuki baby is so strong ❤❤
the 1 dislike is from student A probably :sob:
the dislikes are from students A and C
@@coconutmi they are making alt accs,,,
The fact that people are ready to hate on their favorite character just because they don't want to accept fact that have been proved to be acceptable and biological is just insane
@@Wishingstarmik0 REAL. Like WDYM you don't like a character just because they don't fit in your headcanons 😭🙏
as a nonbinary and transmasc(?) person that is a kanade and mizuki fan, TJANK YOU…ive seen a reply replying to a comment that mizuki is a “boy” which made me UPSET…
THISS!!!
I kinda wish ppl saw how important this topic was instaad of just being like "oh why is the pjsk fandom so focused on her gender blahblahblah" because like, as a trans person myself who isn’t even out yet as i just realized it(esp in this political climate), I do like Mizuki for their character and storyline and how she never felt like she could get emotionally close to anyone again - but their gender is ALSO a part of why she feels that way because of how she was bullied for it and stuff
And yes I know both crossdressers and trans ppl could relate to her story. But two lines in Mizu5 confirm that she is canonically transfem I think - the "so youre a guy too" and the "normal girl" comment. Because that shows Mizuki does identify as fem in some way but they dont accept her as a "normal" girl because shes amab and theyre jerks.
Also I saw in a comment section where there was some Mizuki discourse that crossdressers actually *aren’t* that welcome/accepted in Japan, but still, my point about the Mizu5 lines still stands with the combo of the "guy" and "normal girl" comments.
Tysm for this vid btw!!!
Was getting really sick of stuff happening lately oof
Haha rant over 🤑
Anygay Mizuki is queen 😎😎😎
@src147 so true about not making a part of Mizuki to be a taboo. Saying things like "Mizuki is not about gender at all" is only worsening the issue. Since if she wasn't, no one would have ever know what's wrong going on around her. I used to say these things too, because I was afraid to confront people on this topic. But when I realized my own position, I thought that if Mizuki were my friend, I would definitely want to defend her about that, since dressing cute is a part of her and she is getting misgendered because of that. This does matter, just like her cheerful persona and fragile character. It all matters, every each part of her. And these parts cannot be disconnected just by "Mizuki is not... *etc*". I mean, that's what people say and niigo does too. But they know Mizuki personally and that's how they genuinely feel. They say so, because they already DO accept her identity. In our world yet, people would say "Mizuki is Mizuki" only to avoid conflict or serious talks/acknowledging Mizuki the same way niigo do. As for me, I only ever heard my mom say "You are you and this is what matters". Word in word. Other close people who cared for me told me "Just stay yourself, I love you the way you are". They said it because they indeed accepted my personal situation and feelings, not just to brush it off like proseka fandom does when it comes to Mizuki. She needs real acknowledgement, not a phantom one
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I saw one guy who said that she regretted it and that is why he called her a guy.. i might have gone a bit overboard and said something like "you disgust me" but idc, because he does hahah
I remember how once I got death and dox threats because I called Mizuki he. Did I deserved it :)? I was depressed, and others bullying almost ended me. Did I actually deserved it because people treat fictional character as real person, and real person as fictional character? It’s hard when u try find happiness and reason in fandom, and fandom start bullying u cause little mistake. Wow ❤.
@@BlueFire-guy No, you didn't deserve it
Sending death threats over fictional character is way too far
@@BlueFire-guywhyd you call her a he tho
@@BlueFire-guygo Sayori yourself
@@BlueFire-guyAlthough I agree that telling someone to kill themself over something is wrong, I still would like to know why you had called Mizuki a "he"
Even if you think it's not a big deal, it's not just being disrespectful to the character. It's being disrespectful towards transgenders, as you're calling Mizuki the wrong pronouns instead of what they're comfortable with. It's like calling someone the other gender when they're clearly not, or if they're trans.
who looks at mizuki and says “hmm yeah that’s a he him male”
its like a post i saw one time
"trasnphobic parents be like: meet our son jerry! and this is said son jerry *jessica rabbit*"
mizuki has not clarified their pronouns personally iirc so im still referring to them neutrally. but god people who use "he" on them irk me so hard LMAO
0:56 First Rui mischaracterizment,and then THIS?! Not all Russian fans are like this though,but still #justiceformizurui
THANK YOU SO MUCCHH! Leaving my comment here so this video gets more attention!
I'm worried I'll get attacked for this, but I am personally sticking to calling Mizuki they/them. Not because I think Mizuki is nonbinary, but because Mizuki themself has not clarified to US whether or not they are a guy or transfem. It just doesn't seem right for us to assume anything either way. When they cut off Mizuki's reveal to Nightcord in Kanade's side story, it was because it was for Niigo and Niigo alone, not for us. So I will continue to refer to Mizuki neutrally until they reveal it to us, regardless of whether it ever happens or not. And we really don't NEED to know, because we should love Mizuki regardless of what they see themself as, whether that be a girl, a boy, or neither.
I like that about Mizuki's explanation to Kanade and Mafuyu being cut off because it was for them, not us, I was initially upset, but now that makes perfect sense
In the end, Mizuki is just a silly person who makes edits on capcut 😔❤
@CaptsuneMiku To be fair I wasn’t the one who came up with the interpretation, it was a comment I saw and I don’t remember where, but I was taken with it so I mentioned it! :)
@snicksss I was shocked after realizing we wouldn't know it directly, still. Partly I needed that to make the transphobic part of the fandom to acknowledge Mizuki for who she is (I hope it's not bad if I use these pronouns here).
When that didn't happen I thought, "Oh!". I was disappointed but then I also thought "perhaps this was only the matter of niigo and actually it IS their business, not ours. We are looking from the outside. But only members of niigo are allowed to know full details". For us, fans, it's still a secret...
And yet, my perception of Mizuki never changed - same is for niigo!!
I also watched a couple of long reviews (1 and 4 hours) and what I can say.. Sega is majorly supporting LGBTQ community ever since. There are also many Sonic reviews contemplating about who might have this or other sexuality.. lol.. but anyway, in fact they held many lgbt friendly events in Japan and exposed the community to higher scale, which is very accepting for the Japanese. Yknow, in Japan sexuality is sticking to old patriarchic version, at least the one after the western world invaded Japan in 19th century. Before that, ever since the 8th century, for men there existed an elite culture. Basically men were gay and it was normal. For lesbians it was hard since women were uneducated and considered "the lower class of people that is just silly and copying our elite culture". Therefore lesbians were unrecognized even though they may have existed the same way. That all is partly a reason for me to be openly direct of my position of calling Mizuki a girl. But I sometimes use they/them as an old habit so it's totally okay!! No one would consider you a villain (..rreference) as long as noone misgenders Mizuki as a "boy" X))
@ I won’t disregard your personal opinion, but it seems weird to say Mizuki being referred to as a boy is factually wrong. We really don’t know how Mizuki feels they are, which is why I am referring to Mizuki in a neutral way. If Mizuki identifies as a boy and simply prefers cute clothing, that is fine. If Mizuki identifies as a girl, that’s fine too. And if Mizuki is nonbinary, that is also fine. Again, whatever Mizuki is, if the time ever comes that they reveal it to us, we should accept it no matter what, because Mizuki is Mizuki and nothing will change that. Sorry if this feels like I’m imposing my opinion onto you!
Say it LOUDERRRRRRRR 💥💥💥
@@Mizuki-Akiyama.N25ji YESSIR 🤑🤑🤑 🔥🔥🔥
@@No.1_Hanasato_Minori_Fan🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love how mizukis character isn’t pushed forward in these things. She’s who she is which is why she’s my favourite 🥰
i used a translator so pro sekai was in my language and it used masc / androgynous pronouns.
i think thats why ppl use masc pronouns !!
Please don't write text with the same color as background in the future, it's really hard to see (pink on pink for example)
@@arthorias06 yeah I noticed that too my bad 😔🙏
From the start, I always thought mizuki was a girl. Mizuki WANTS to be represented as a GIRL, and it’s sad that ppl don’t see that. And why Russian mizuki fans being the transphobes..?
I had an argument with someone from Kazakhstan over mizuki (he started it) and he said that if it was American mizuki would be trans because america is gay but it’s in japan and japan is homophobic so she’s a boy and then later sent me death threats.
More detail: he was the one being mean and told me to grow up because wearing skirts and having long hair doesn’t make you a girl (I know. He wasn’t saying attention to any of my arguments and was being stubborn :C) then said that I was being rude ti him and betrayed him bc he trusted me or something idk and told me to lock my doors and I said “WHAT THE FUCK??? YOUR THREATEMTING TO FIND ME OVER A STUPID ARGUMENT???” He also threatened to do things worse then murder to me and later when he apologized (I don’t even know why I forgave him, I was so paranoid the whole day) he said he was just overwhelmed- also sometime before this, because I am nonbinary and just relate to mizuki in general, I used personal experiences and stuff and he said something like “nobody cares about you we’re talking about mizuki” then later said he understands mizuki the best because he relates to her but was also saying that she felt like she had to run away for no reason
(I blocked him later bc if other bad stuff he did)
Sorry for kinda venting
YOU GET ITTTT
Ah, this is why I don't interact with THOSE Mizuki fans, absolutely disrespectful.
Imo, in the end of the day nothing was confirmed, so people can still have their own interpretation of the story. Vilifying people with different opinions is toxic, same as calling your favorite ship canon unironically.
And don't forget that Mizuki is a fictional character, so don't attack real people cause of disagreement.
I personally consider Mizuki trans, but it wouldn't surprise nor upset me if she ended up being a crossdresser. Both interpretations are valid and don't lessen her character, imo.
True, but lets not harass people just a reminder, mizuki is good representation for trans people AND crossdressers who have felt they had to change their indentity to not be judged, Mizuki overall is a great character who is relatable to many fans,
Also lets remember that mizuki is a fictional character and not real. If you are genuinely hurt by people not referring to her by her pronouns then you need to step back, its not healthy to be that attached to a fictional character and its the reason why so much of the community is toxic.
@@skylarsouthhearth1523 sorry if the video came of as rude :( and we'll it's true they are fictional but like I don't know how to explain it but it hurts to see other people refer to them as a boy 🙁 (iykwim) 🙏🙏
@@No.1_Hanasato_Minori_Fan Oh no it's fine, I get that it's a little hurtful I just meant that having unhealthy attachments to fictional characters isn't good, It was a very good video and not rude at all!
@skylarsouthhearth1523 mhmmm... I choose to be toxic for the sake of protecting lgbt rights.. sorry not sorry huh
Firefly in honkai star is also a fictional character with a fictional disease but Tomori Kusunoki and Firefly are experiencing similar types of experience. Tomori has EDS, a rare genetic illness causing her joints issues, and that's why she can't perform on stage after being diagnosed in 2022. She retired from Setsuna role, her big love. And she wrote about her own pain and life experience in her own songs. Or Kanade was also made off based on Tomori's health. Kanade is fictional wdym!! Why do people care!! No, it does matter whether it's fictional or not. Any fiction is based off real people's life experience and feelings. You can't create a fiction that is unrealistic. It's impossible and there is aaaalllwaaaayyyss a human factor. Sorry bud, I have a different opinion :/
@skylarsouthhearth1523 harass... Russian fandom harrases people the most lol, and the English fandom is the most open minded one, the friendly one that I've ever been :/
Sorry not sorry but I choose to be toxic when it's about protecting the rights of lgbtq minority. And fiction is based off real people's experiences and feelings, I'd have a lot to say in favour of it. If noone cared for fictional characters, people wouldn't have a chance to develop empathy outside society. People who read books or play lore games (you continue the list) have a lot more compassion and understanding, or deeper feelings compared to those who lead a trivial routine life surrounded by people they have nothing common with and experience everyone and everything only on superficial level
@skylarsouthhearth1523 harass... Russian fandom harrases people the most lol, and the English fandom is the most open minded one, the friendly one that I've ever been :/
Sorray not sorray but I choose to be toxic when it's about protecting the rights of lgbtq minority. And fiction is based off real people's experiences and feelings, I'd have a lot to say in favour of it. If noone cared for fictional characters, people wouldn't have a chance to develop empathy outside society. People who read books or play lore games (you continue the list) have a lot more compassion and understanding, or deeper feelings compared to those who lead a trivial routine life surrounded by people they have nothing common with and experience everyone and everything only on superficial level