The Foundations of Modern 40k | Andy Chambers in Conversation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2023
- Andy Chambers was lead designer, AKA the Overfiend, for 40K 3rd Edition and was arguably the person most responsible for evolving it into the foundations of the modern game.
Starting with White Dwarf articles for Space Marine & Adeptus Titanicus, writing Battle Magic and Warhammer Armies: Skaven for Fantasy Battle, and then leading the development of 40K and working on at least 12 Codex books! And that's not to mention Necromunda, Battlefleet Gothic, and Gorka Morka. Plus more recently the 2000AD and Judge Dredd games for Warlord Games.
Andy and I talk about his career at Games Workshop, the art of developing 40K and other GW classics, and his more recent work on new games like Judge Dredd.
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It’s so cognitively dissonant to me to see Andy Chambers not looking like Wolverine in a grainy photo in the front of White Dwarf. He was the most iconic figure of the ‘90s gaming scene for me… always loved seeing him pop up in battle reports or writing bits for White Dwarf.
Yes it’s interesting that I’ll always associate GW WD staffers with their 90s pictures and then I get weirdly shocked when they come on these podcasts and I realise they’re not immortal ☹️
You're hitting it out of the park with these interviews. I'd love to chat with some of these guys.
This was brilliant interview to listen to. You're great at the interviewing because you really sit back and let the guest tell their interesting stories.
Andy Chambers seems like a really cool guy with a good sense of humour.
Andy Chambers did an amazing/incredible job with that Skaven army book: One of the best at the time along with the Undead Army book which was also so chock full of lore/flavour and more as well. Right about how much rested on the RPG in Warhammer... and the minute they stopped doing that.
Brilliantly conducted and fascinating interview. I met Andy at a Games Day back in about 1996. I would have been about 10 and I was awed and terrified to see this larger-than-life face from the pages of White Dwarf. He was incredibly cool and sweet with me and all the other kids and I will never forget it.
Also Andy makes a great point about 200AD being the wellspring. Would make a cool video to do a dive into all the 200AD elements in 40k (some are pretty obvious in Rogue Trader but they're always there). Dune elements too obviously.
I feel like Andy knew I was listening. I was quite put off when my Orks lost their Plasma Guns and Heavy Bolters. I never complained officially, but I did complain. Just ask my friends. Lol, it's all good now. Furthermore, I have a huge army of metal Squats. They will see action in our Age of Darkness games. 40k has been a part of my life for more years than it hasnt. Dang these GW guys made a major masterpiece of a game. ❤️👍
Excellent interview! One of my most favorite Andy Chambers rule sets was his “Starship Troopers” miniatures game. Absolutely loved that game amongst all his others.
White dwarf lemmy is a true legend
Absolute Gold.
I bought a Starship Troopers box on discount just for the minis. I'll have to go read the rules more clearly to see what Andy going mad looks like. :)
The big tank battle in white dwarf forever remainds as one of my fondest warhammer memories.
I loved Epic 40k. Best memories I had of myself and my younger brother fighting battles on the kitchen table during the weekends and school holidays.
I love GorkaMorka.. Sad it did not take off more.. I also like Epic 40k, but I do like the previous edition as well as Epic Armageddon too.. Epic 40k´s system seems to work better for BFG or similar.. Which is a great game by the way.
Andy Chambers always seemed like one of the more nice and interesting guys.. I loved him especially after the 3rd Ed 40k Ork rules. it felt as if he cared and tried to give others, others other than Beakiez, some stuff.. Thank you Andy. :)
My first time seeing him was in the RT Space Wolves vs Orks Battle Report with jervis and I was into the SWs so... Yeah. Hat´s off sir!
And thanks Jordan for this vid!
I remember meeting Andy back in the late 90s when I had an interview with Paul Sawyer to work on White Dwarf. Remember being star struck!
Videos like this are why your channel is becoming a fast favourite. Keep up the great work!
What a fantastic interview! So good to finally get the human take on what was occurring 30yrs ago. Loved Andy’s take on the demise of WFB and he mentioned 2000AD’s ‘The Killing’ loved that story. You should have baited him on the possibility of ‘Space Skaven’ back in the day!😈
Was so cool to hear Andy Chambers for a while! I read his Dark Eldar trilogy a little while back.
Glad to hear Andy is busy working on the new ABC warriors for 2000AD. Warlord mentioned it last year but I have heard nothing else about from that point. I hope it will be out soon. Having the ABC warriors in mini form will be a little dream come true.
Awesome interview Jordan.
I have fond memories of the 13th Black Crusade. I was on the Chaos side, and we had to organise our faction using Yahoo groups. Each Legion would have a representative, and based on the previous week's results, we would dorect our games at a specific area of the campaign map. I was the Emperor's Children representative and took our orders back to the EC Yahoo Group for people to enact. Our groups got a thank from Andy in the Black Library lore book about the conflict.
Oh that's so cool! Hope I get the chance to be a part of something like this down the line. 😊
Wonderful stuff. Andy is to games as Stan Lee is to comics. And he will always look like Lemmy in my brain. Can't be helped. Thanks for a great conversation with a guy that added joy to my life.
Interesting to hear and see Andy Chambers, enlightening interview, a famous video why not . knowledge in IP and hunger for recognition. A whole case of cuteness.
Brilliant work again! Thank you. Imagine if you could interview the reclusive Jervis Johnson! Imagine…
Thank you very much. This is gold for a fan :)
This output, access, and quality is great! Well done.
These interviews are all so good.
Thank you again for these! Great hearing from the old team on stuff from the childhood.
Holy crap!!!!!
The Horned Rat himself!!!!!
Good interview mate. It's always nice when the guest gets to answer and sometimes ramble on uninterrupted.
Great chat - these interviews are fantastic.
Yet another splendid interview, and Andy was an absolute treat to listen to. Thank you for your continuing efforts to track down and bring out the stories from these legends.
Thank-thanks, great stuff.
This must have blown your mind when you lined this up!!!
Still is!
Brilliant interview!
Fantastic interview!!! 🤩
Battle Magic and the High Elves army book for 4th were actually my very first Warhammer products, not counting the core set (High Elves and Goblins) that I bought with a friend of mine. Funny that they were also Andy's first to hit the shelves. And that first Skaven book. It's just magnificent! 🐀🐀🐀🐀
Awesome interview. Thanks Jordan!
I've always been a fan of Andy's work ever since picking up Warhammer Armies Skaven. I would have liked a bit more chat about the Starship Troopers game.
Fantastic interview with someone who's had quite an influence on my life!
I dropped out of 40K when 3rd Ed came out. Partly it was the time in my life and partly I was put off by the hard reset and simplification. But I regret not having picked up the rulebook. Interestingly enough, it was the Ork Codex for that new edition of the game - which I'm pretty sure Andy wrote - that got me back into the game. That was the lense through which I was able to appreciate what that hard reset enabled. Still a big fan of that book!
Really enjoyed that, being of the right vintage myself. I remember that Knights article in WD! And funny to hear his take on the death of the Old World...
Great stuff, love the way you give the interviewee space to tell their stories in their own way.
Fascinating interview, thank you. It is just what I need night now 😊
Amazing interview,, these are so interesting. I'll probably be watching these multiple times while getting some mini's painted up. Thanks for these!
More more!!
I love these interviews with the founding fathers of these games, keep it up!
Absolutely smashed it dude!! Fantastic interview 👏👏
Great interview but you didn't ask the one question on everyone's mind: does he still have that amazing WFB3 Skaven army?
One day, when I win the lottery I will track down all those old Skaven models and recreate Andy's army.
This channel is amazing! Thank you!!
Thank you so much for putting this together Jordan, thoroughly enjoyed it.
It was genuinely my pleasure!
Great interview! Andy (along with Jervis) was one of my favorite designers at GW. I still love Epic 40k as my favorite edition of the game, and was insanely into GorkaMorka as a kid.
Great interview mate. Im currenttly working in some forces and titans for adeptus titanicus and 1st edition epic using some of Andys rule articles. Legend!
Wonderful interview, thank you both. All hail the Overfiend Chambers!
Squeak-squeak 🐀🌠💎🔥🪄🐀
This was amazing - thanks so much!!!
Fascinating and insightful interview with Andy. I first became involved with GW around the time of second edition 40K, which is when I met Andy, Jervis and Gav for the first time.
Thanks Jonathan! I’m just getting ready to read your Magestorm book as part of my Storm of Chaos research!
@@jordansorcery I actually got a thank you credit in the Storm of Chaos book. I think because I wrote a book linked to the campaign and described cultists putting a daemon into cannon, if I remember correctly.
Lovely and very fun interview thank you both for producing this!
I'll be looking out for that not-mecha game!
This was fascinating, just found your channel, subscribed! I remember Andy Chambers from white dwarf from when I was a kid. Amazing to hear from him in such depth.
This was just fantastic
Ive been out of the hobby for years, but still it was lovely listening to andy talk, bringing back memories...
Great material as always. Came to your channel recently and as Oldhammer fan, I totally dig into it. Keep it going, keep giving us those awesome bits of history that is not well known in the hobby, keep your passion.
Great chat! What a cool guy. Loved all his appearances in white dwarf back in the early and mid-90s as a kid, especially him defeating Jervis in every, single, game of 40k they ever played in print! And that Epic 40k ruleset from 1997/98 really was beautifully done. Thanks a lot.
That was a really interesting chat, great to see these people are willing to do long sit down interviews and talk about a range of stuff
Loving these conversations.
As someone who has lived through the no-internet/internet epoch these stories are incredibly nostalgic for how things used to be.
You should pitch this whole vibe to the BBC and try to get a documentary funded on Games Workshop, which is a massive cultural and commercial success story for the Midlands. You'd make a very likeable presenter of programs covering this aspect of culture in general.
I would love that!
Can't tell you how much I enjoyed this chat! You just let Andy talk away with some well spaced questions from yourself. How it should be done 👏👏
Love this, even though I'm pretty much only a fantasy guy, this was still fascinating and Andy is just fun to listen to. Thank you!
This is a fantastic, absolutely brilliant interview. So informative.
Great interview. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I know it's a bit gossip-y, but I'd love to hear what folks like Andy Chambers thought about the End (and upcoming return) of classic Warhammer. I'd love to hear more.
Great stuff! I often wonder how close Necromunda was to being a Judge Dredd Block War game reskinned.
Great interview, nice work!
"There's a reason we talk about people on golden thrones being stuck and unable to make decisions"
Great interview. Given Andy's fondness and involvement in Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine I'm surprised that that the order system was never ported to 40k in 2n edition. Was that ever discussed?
Also did Andy ever try to get Skaven into 40K?
Excellent interview and great insight
A really great insight into game design.
📸Look up OLD PHOTO(S) of Good Ol' _*AndyChambers*_ in Issues of *White Dwarf Magazine* (He looks like a bleedin' Teenager (!)
God, I feel Old today (What a great Video & long-form Chat, Jordan; Hat's Off, Well done ;-)
Andy Chambers was one of my educators in 40k, mostly because I didn’t have a chance to play fantasy battle. Along with the incredible Jervis Johnson who created Blood Bowl 🏈 Praise Nuffle 😂
2nd edition 40k is where I began my journey into tabletop gaming and I absolutely loved it ❤
What a fantastic interview! There's much to enjoy and digest here.
Thank you both for this.
Fantastic stuff ❤
Hearing the reference to The Overfiend sounding like a "dodgy Manga" in an ancient nid battle report and hearing his nickname here has brought my life full circle
Brilliant
Any plans to complete the trio with Rick & Jervis?
"'Allo" is up there with "Hello guys, Marco here!" with opening lines declaring I'm about to watch quality gaming content.
Andy Chambers? *Takes a sip
Sooo cool
You got me with Space Hulk. *+1 Subscriber*
I started getting into White Dwarf and Games workshop games in 90/91. Very happy memories!
Addendum: Age of Sigmar sucks, and he's right in that the depth of backstory for Warhammer was so rich that flushing it away to create Sigmarines is an act of terror similar is Isis destroying sacred ancient monuments in the middle east
Then explain why the behavior of fantasy fanboys is the behavior of true terrorists?
Now they hate and want to kill the Age of Sigmar fans. But 10 years ago they also wanted to kill 40k and their fans.
I fondly remember first edition blood bowl had judge Dredd teams in white Dwarf
He also worked in Starcraft 2
Fabulous
These interviews would be great as a podcast. Is this something you've thought about at all (or more to the point...be bothered to do hah)?
Magnificent interview. Insightful and entertaining at turns. Your guests and style are a breath of fresh air next to some of the absolute drivel on other channels - the ones I call SHILLhammer channels especially. Maybe you could get Jervis on here now he's "retired".
But what does he think of the shitshow that is the 8/9/10th edition ruleset?
Gorkamorka was a brilliant game that GW dropped it like a stone.😢😭 I always thought it was because it encouraged people to kitbash which is against the GW model of business.
Andy! Do you have any candy, Andy?
I still want to know what on Earth he was thinking with the 2nd edition tyranids codex
What was wrong with it?
This all confirms that WARHAMMER has outgrown not only Games Workshop, but also their original creators.
Because I am Warhammer as my hobby is for my soul and heart, but for Games Workshop it is only a matter of money.
But the creators who left GW are also not “free” artists, they also want money. They also now work for GW's competitors. They also weren't able to create anything close to Warhammer on their own.
So nothing in the world will stop me from continuing to enjoy Warhammer Age of Sirmar and hate the Old World! Because it's cool, this is my life!
I have always thought that if you want a balanced game then you should play chess.
49:00 didn't like epic 40,000 :-(
Some amusing comments there from Andy, since the game is now MARINEHAMMER 40k ... i now HATE (Primaris) Space Marines and anything past 7th ... which is why I'm currently playing 3rd Ed. with my bestie ...
His comments regarding the dudebro marines made me smile a bit too. I'm a die hard Guard fan/player since I took up the hobby at the tail end of 3rd. Never had more than a passing interest in marines, or a love/hate thing at best. The way GW push them now is just obnoxious. Custodes and the Votan-thingies are just marines in disguise too. The glory days of 3rd/4th Ed. are long gone.
@@il_solitario55 absolutely, I’ve been playing 40k since ‘91 in the heady days of Rogue Trader and what GW is doing for its ‘main’ games is lowbrow trash. Don’t get me wrong (most of) the minis get better and better but the writing, lore and background … absolute garbage.
The 'success breeds success' remark is correct, though. And some of it is economics - don't Space Marines still require the smallest starting investment re number of miniatures? I remember back in 2nd edition giving up on buying orks because you needed to buy (and buy enough paint for) 2 or 3 times the number of models.
I think peoples memory must be on the blink. Spacemarines have always been the poster boys of 40K. I think we look back with rose tinted glasses. The game at times in early edtions was outright broken at times we just did not have the internet tell us it was so nobody care. I love the the original rogue trader it sparked a world in which I would be completely captured in. However the reality is the rules are unplayable. We complain today about the prices but hardly anyone that was a teenager when 40k came out had an army. We all had a few models we played with but the idea we had a complete army never happened.
If I had a choice I would rather be a kid today and play this version with all those amazing model, advancement in paint, hobby tools, support in youtube videos. I dont regret starting in the 80's, I look at it often with rose tinted glasses but I dont want to be this old grumpy man that trashes the modern version because it is great.
@@redscope897 Many of the new minis are great, certainly, but not all of them, and the mono-pose style is a trade-off, good or bad depending on preference. I don't agree that the paints/tools have improved at all. Many of GW's current paints are too thin and the pots are increasingly smaller. GW's tools have been consistently crap since about 2017ish. Marines have always been the poster boys, yes, but they've been reduced to a soulless cash cow(much like the IP in general) and the bias in marketing them has become laughably blatant, almost to the point of self-parody. The marine range is now bigger than several other factions put together. The greed and ruthlessness of the bigwigs has now far outstripped any interest in maintaining a good quality IP. The newer factions - Custodes and Votan - are marines in all but name - dudes in power armour with big guns and even bigger dicks. Just more of the same. GW would never attempt anything as interesting or ambitious as the Tau under the current regime. As for the rules, well, I think their recent rules are easier to grasp than some of the older ones, certainly in terms of core rules, but these are bogged down with convoluted nonsense like detachment special rules, command point stratagem thingies, formations, this special rule, that special rule etc. The game isn't about tactics or gambling on dice rolls anymore, it's a list-building exercise. It's all about the "meta". Games are won and lost on paper/aps instead of on the tabletop.
Modern 40K is trash and an insult to real 40K
3rd ruined 40k and it would never recover