I just got a used MKC with lots of miles but way less than 100,000 now this suv has those symptoms but in carfax I don’t see it was e we change or that there was any issues with the vehicle. Also one owner only. So if it bounced it needs change
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Silverhold I think theres other channels for that. I only enjoy when he explains things as an engineer, not mechanic stuffs, I personally newer watch the reviews either. But thats just me. I would love some more F1 tech. Suspension dynamics and aero. Especially Aero since it's such important factor in racing nowdays
Tommy Melin It's good to have variety as we all have different interests. I certainly don't watch all of the videos of the channels I'm subscribed to. :)
Engineering Explained Hey. Just want a suggestion from you. I live in country where there is a lot of pot holes (bad roads) Which is the best shock observer for sedan? Thanks
I have a lexus 200t, when I hit a pot hole at 100km/h my shock make a LOUD BANG, works ok in low speed condition, took it to 3 dealers , no one could find the issue as it was hard to reproduce, the only way to know it was damage was to lift the car up and measure the wheel heights at they were different(the one hanging the lowest beeing the shot strut) . Hope it helps somebody.
Yeah, that’s how I usually notice about shocks on a vehicle if I jack it up and it takes an excessively long time to jack up typically structured have no more than a 4 to 6 inch travel to my experience on a car if it has more than that it’s bad
I bought monroe, people seem to dislike them. They are still fairly new (1500 km), one thing i noticed is that they are really hard, only changed the back. When i replace the front ones i will chose another brand cause of that. Too stiff even though they added a shitload of stability and corner hability to my car which is also nice...
I noticed that when I corner and change lane it tends to roll more, also the ride is harsh when hitting rough roads or potholes, plus the steering appears to be off especially when it is windy and my car tend to go off lane . That is the time I had to change my struts at 230k miles Accord and I used all 4 front and back KYB struts
@Engineering Explained How long do the original springs last? Looking to replace rear struts and thinking about using the same spring again instead of getting complete strut assembly. Thanks.
I have about 260K miles on my 1992 Acura Legend's struts, and I think they're done - lol. I've had a very bumpy ride recently, so I stopped off at the local Discount Tire to have the tires checked, thinking that the tires might have deformed; they found that the front tires are wearing unevenly. The tires were replaced, since they were old anyway, but the ride was still terrible after the replacement. So, I decided to do a thorough inspection of the suspension. I found that the driver's side CV axle boot was torn and flinging grease everywhere and that the joints on the passenger side axle appear to be broken (very floppy). After replacing the axles, the ride improved, but it still feels a little like I'm driving over a gravel road. The struts don't look visibly bad, nor does the car bounce when I perform the "push" test. It looks like it's time to take them apart...or just not be cheap and simply replace them :-)
After 2 years, i tell you this anwyay. No shock absorver lasts so many miles, not even one third of that. My car had stock shocks with only 100.000 kms, from Sachs VW. They were shot, the car felt like a dancer when cornering. So you imagine that when i replaced them, the car felt like a sports car LOL, much better stability mainly when cornering, it became harder but its still much better this way!
Struts almost always pass the bounce test unless they are completely blown. A better indicator is tougher bumps, more steering corrections to have to be done at highway speeds, wind gusts making your car tilt, and small bounce vibrations. Good thing about the struts is unless completely blown u have a lot of time before you need to replace them
He mentioned the bushings at the top but didn't explain when you might know those are bad. I just finished replacing the struts on my wife's Nissan about 2 hours ago because the jounce bearings/bushings at the top of the struts were going bad and making a creaking noise when you turn the wheels at low speeds. It sounded just like the creaking you get with a tie rod end or a ball joint and took me while to figure it what it was. So if you ever hear creaking when you turn the wheel and you check the tie rod end and the ball joints are good, you may have bad jounce bearings that are inside the top of the strut. I didn't know this until I happened to my wifes car. I didn't even know there was a turning bushing/bearing in struts that turns when you turn the wheels until now.
I have a crown victoria police interceptor with 215k on it with original struts and I can't tell if the struts are worn out because they feel pretty good and aren't leaking. A worn police strut kinda feels like a new civilian strut (in my head) . Motorcraft claims to have tested them until failure when developing. Which makes sense . Some police crown vics go their entire career on their original struts. Not all departments have big budgets for new comfort parts. So it kinda makes sense they made them pretty heavy duty.
Really? Is there a time limit or is it just Miles because my 2015 needs new shocks and struts but I only have a little bit of miles on it when I cross train tracks I feel like I hit a curb
Another symptom of worn out shocks is when below freezing shocks might get really stiff and or seaze up completely.. And then when it gets warm again it starts working! But only a tip for those that live where it's cold.. like me -40 Celsius sometimes :)
Research brought me to this video looking for suggestions. In short, my SUV is on its second front set of Gabriel Struts in less than 5 years. 1. The first set were replaced because the top hats growled whenever turning the steering wheel left or right. 2. Now the second set is doing the same as the first but with the addition of the left one making popping sounds, especially when turning left (I placed my hand while my Wife turned the wheel left and felt the spring shift). 3. There is zero vibration or drift while driving/braking at any speed; steering dead-center. NOTE: All front components (lower Control Arms w/Ball Joints, Inner/Outer Tie Rods, Half Shafts and Hubs w/Bearings, etc.) are all new. Suggestions?
I really appreciate you bringing all this facts out, im having the same symptoms I mean my car lol,and this video has help me a bunch, my mechanic at Ford order a brand new rack and pinion, the electronic one because of my poor steering and he order me one cause I'm still under warranty, so I will buy new shocks and struts anyway just to have it all combo out completely, thx always
A strut assembly also includes the spring. You didn't discuss the strut spring being worn (ride height lower than original spec). Is there a place to reference factory ride height data?
Quick struts Monroe has issues on mine on every bumps and it is annoying with those noise on rough roads but driving on highway sounds okay. It is a mistake buying aftermarket parts just stick with OEM where they are tested for specific vehicles. Noise was not mentioned at all on this video for Monroe quick struts.
Some years ago, I saw some Monroe promotion material at a car parts store. They really drove the message to replace dampers every 80,000km. They must feel very confident about the quality of their product... 80,000! That's just ridiculous. That was the day when I decided *not* to buy Monroe. Ever.
Don't have aftermarket quick struts put in, it's all assembled together and quick and easy to put in but they don't have longevity. If you want longevity and better reliability it's a must to use a spring\coil compressor for safety and only put in a new shock so you can keep the original OEM coil\ springs
The whole thing is called strut, the inside is shock absorber, then the coil spring is obvious, right? The spring NEVER gets worn or tired (unless it gets physical damage or rust), right? Will a bad shock absorber mess up the camber? The alignment guy could not get the front left non-adjustable camber in range for my BMW e92 and he said I need new struts. Worn shock absorber should not affect the struct loaded height but the spring (if weakened) would, right? I would take both struts out and compare their height?
ScissorsToTheThroat Typically a bad idea as it can allow for the shock absorbers to bottom out (so to speak, the piston travel is altered). I'd always recommend getting a full set (shocks and springs) when doing this that are made to match with one-another, or coilovers.
We noticed an issue this weekend when going around sharp turns. It sounded like the tires were spinning against the shocks, as if the shocks were riding really low. The traction control light (or skid light?) and it caused us to slow way down. No visible fluid leak and not extra bumpy ride. Any ideas what this might be?
Avoid Monroe like the plague. Bought their quick struts for my car and the passenger side took 4 hours and had to go back to autozone to loan the spring compressor to remove the top part of the strut and use the old one plus we had to rotate "shock" so it would line up. The drivers side took a little over an hour and we were able to put it on after compressing and rotating bottom part of the thing. It's been less than a month and already hear the clunk noise on pass side (why i bought the struts in first place). Yes the ride is better than the worn out struts.. way better. However after reading some posts and vids about them it appears that failing early isn't unheard of with monroe struts/shocks. If I had it to do over I'd buy another brand's suspension parts.
Thank you. I learned a loot. I believe I need to replace my shocks and I failed inspection because my left strut is broken. I need to change both because there so much nose dip and bounce if I stop after fast acceleration the car bounces. If I hit deep pot holes in bounces the nose bangs against the pavement. I just hit 100,00 miles on my 2010 bmw 535xi
Excellent video as always, BUT explain the physics on what happens if you only decide to change out the rear struts...or the front ones. Will this actually makes things worse?
After I got all of my struts replaced for the first time, at 230k, the front brake pads don't vibrate and shimmy any more. Monroe Struts, from and independent shop, seemed be a better value than the genuine Honda struts at the Honda Dealership.
Thanks, for comments. What is your thoughts now? I,am due all four corners, ON 2015 FWD Dodge Journey:: considering Monroe( have on my 2007 CANYON 2 DR/ LS GMC, though one Monroe Front Strut May have leak after some 80,000 miles, & imhave relocated , losing my outstanding Tire Store/ Warranties)…
@@opera93 I sold my Honda Civic shortly after I replaced the struts so, I don't know how long they lasted. My 2001 Odyssey has spent struts and I'm still driving it. The car has no real value and it's not worth replacing the spent AC compressor, and the spent struts. I hope to sell it soon.
I have a 2018 Audi A4 with just 20k miles in. I live in Canada with a lot of snow. During the pandemic, my car was sitting out for 3 months. After winter, my car ride feels bouncy. Can shocks go bad this early?
I have a 2007 Toyota 4 Runner. Big-O-Tires told me I need shock and struts. That was two years ago, and my truck now it rattles like a vibration kinda feel. I would have to release the gas for it to stop. Can this be do to my truck shock and struts? Thanks.
I have some wanrned out shocks? seems to be the right one only cause car shakes on the right side only or when someone sits on the right side it makes really bad sound around the tire area ?
Tuesday, April 16, 2024 ☁️ 🌥️ ☁️ The large, floating overhead question is - how do I tell which strut is bad? My car is a 2004 Toyota Corolla, with 155,526 miles. 🚗 When the front tires hit a bump, something rattles! I drove slowly along a road with lots of patches. I heard the rattling sound more when the road patches were on the right side. So probably the right strut is failing. 👨🌾
I'm about to reach 100k miles and was considering changing my OEM Front Shocks/Struts to Bilstein B4 or B6. When I change the front suspension, do I have to change the back also? I do a lot of canyon driving.
I just noticed that My FRONT STRUT NUT is Rusted Over when I popped open the hood . I bought a Replacement Front Strut Nut. Can I just simply Undo the NUT and Replace it with the new one? NO need to jack the car up ? Any Torque Settings? Thanks!
Good info man I’m wondering how I know the right or left side of the shock, I just get a Monroe shock and struts for my 98 Jetta but honestly I don’t see the left or right side on this, it looks similar
Does worn Shock Aborbers add to stiff steering ?? I own a i10 in India and it has clocked 1,00,000 Km on it. Also does worn out Strut bearing make the steering effort more i,e, stiff steering?? Request you to please respond..
The original OEM dampers on my 1990 Honda CRX Si began to deteriorate at 15,000 miles and by 22-23k were quite ineffective. The car simply lost its sporty feel and stable handling and had more body movement over bumps. Honda Motor Co. must have really up'ed the quality of their dampers since then based on your experience. I've been using Koni Sport adjustable dampers on the CRX since 2000 (daily driver) and they started showing signs of deteriorating damping effectiveness just last summer. The ride quality is just not as good as before regardless of the damper settings. However, they are factory rebuildable.
Thanks for the video! Very interesting. I have a question: What brand of shock absorbs would you recommend? Does it make a difference to buy more expensive KYB instead of cheaper Monroe or other brand? Thanks for the answer.
I got a squeak and it's pretty annoying. Just occured. And these shocks are only 50k old. Mostly highway use. The shop who replaced them last charged an arm and a leg and apparently used topshelf parts. Which now I doubt. The old shocks/struts lasted 180k.
Hey bro thanks for the video always good!!, I was wondering I was watching another video that included quick strut versus the orginal kind...two different brands, one kyb not quick, and Gabriel quick mount. Expanded they bother came to the same length 23", but the kyb OE was 16.69" and the other 15.94" a difference of 0.75"?...what does that mean for the ride and handling?, appreciate you getting back as this will either make or break my decision of which manufactor I go with, thanks bro.
please, 2002 accord, 160k mi, and like your integra, my front struts look ok with no leaks and no apparent symptoms. question: waste of time to replace? or because of age and miles would not be a bad idea to prophylactically replace? thanks...
why would a mechanical physical system need a digital test? It is about physical components that wear, not circuit boards. Electronics is what is making new cars very expensive .
On the rear should you replace both shocks? Yes of course! Can you just replace one? Well, you can. It will probably improve your handling if the stock you removed was bad. Replacing one shock is better than having two bad shocks. If money is tight, replace that bad shock!
i have a 2008 SAAB 93 v6. its overall in a new shape however I am having unusal hit and discomfort when I am even driving over a tiny bump. the car does not wiggle and its good on highway but jumps unsualy and some time I feel it going away a bit when it passes over a bump in a reletively higher speed around 60 - 80 km/hr. First I thought it because of the big 18" wheels which allow less air cushion that makes the car more sportier rather comfortable. It is obvious but do I need a new shock ? and how to find if they are front or rear ? also what kind of shocks a 2008 SAAB 93 v6 aero has and what would be the best replacement shocks for them ? do they come in full assembly ? and can be changed by self ? thanks
Took off my rear shock at 85K. Tested and by pressing down on it and it seemed to come back up relatively quick. Even though I already brought the new parts. lol I’ll check them out again at 90K or 95K.
Broken coil springs are surprisingly common these days now that everything is made out of crap. Even if the ride seems right, one should definitely do a visual inspection every now and then.
nicholas elias I knew that part, but I don't know how to check transmission mounts. I know most likely you have to see it to know it is broke, but I don't know if there any other way to tell if a transmission mount is broken.
can someone please make mention the difference in the mount to control arm points , and why they are different , two bolts, u shaped, missing.. how do you know what your car uses before buying the wrong part
Yes, you can do two at a time, as long as they are installed over the same axle. for example, two new struts on the rear or two new struts on the front.
is 45k miles too early to even think about replacing them assuming you dont sense anything wrong with the suspension while driving the reason i asked is for example when theres a really good discount on a complete set of shocks would you recommend replacing them even if there are no signs you need to replace them specially if you can do it yourself
sirrone egdels I luckily have a mechanic friend that can get the parts and installation done for $200, which is more than a third less than the dealer would charge. I'll just let him screw with it over a weekend.
question. i have a 2003 chevy impala. i need shocks as mine are worn out. preferably ones that can handle towing a fully loaded 5x10 trailer withought wearing out completely. im planning on purchasing the police package from advanced auto parts for the front shocks however im unsure what to get for my rear shocks. i was wondering if you had anything in particular in mind as a suggestion
good video, but monroe's suck. i refuse to put them in my customers cars. i've used kyb's, bilsteins etc with no problem, but the few times i've used monroes, i've always had a come-back
Lol I bought a Toyota Camry with 149k miles, and I'm pretty sure it was the original set of shocks and struts that came with the vehicle. Going down the road feels like I'm in a bouncy house. Seriously not safe. Look forward to getting them changed and having a safer, more reliable ride. Just waiting on the parts to arrive this weekend so I can play mechanic out in the yard. It amazes me how absolutely clueless most people are about vehicles. Suspension is how your car gives you a comfortable ride, yes, but bad suspension increases other wear and tear, can lead to catastrophic failure in the wheel wells, and decreases steering control.
What about the loose feeling when you drive through the potholes? Is that from shocks? I had changed them 30k miles ago but driving in nyc might have done some damage
Most factory (original equipment manufacture) shocks / struts last 200,000 miles. Most Aftermarket shocks last 50-75,000 miles. There are a few exceptions that happen though. You're usually Better off buying new OEM replacement parts. As nearly all aftermarket parts are of seriously poor quality. ALWAYS Keep In Mind these companies want you to Buy Early and Buy Often... Its how they Maximize Profits and Market Share... Same with your local friendly shop... They can't pay their 15,000 a month rent telling customers their oem parts look good enough and are serviceable. Always get a second opinion... This coming from a repair shop Owner....
I am from Germany and i can tell you that Monroe is not a good brand. In Germany nobody want to install it on cars. Here we use Sachs or Bilstein. With this two brands you cant make it wrong. Sachs is OEM deliver for BMW and Mercedes.
I bought some cheap monroes for the truck. They literally pulled apart before 2 months. Rod completely pulled in half. Never again. Bilsteins and kyb only from now on
My front right shock is leaking oil or fluid on top. The mechanic said if U replace it, it should be two. Otherwise the new shock will carry most of the weight if only U changed the damaged one. How true is that? Maybe he only wants to make more money for the shop or what? I need your expert advice.... Thanks, jojo
anything on suspension done is done in pairs. Two shocks, sway bar links, top mounts. It should be same stuff on same axel. I mean it doesnt have to but it should if u plan on driving it in future
Gosh, I thought my car was doing pretty good, until I listened to this video...my car has all those symptoms...I'm shocked!
Always a pleasure! :)
StevenSWM Thanks for a witty use of words!
If you shock buy a new shock absorber haha
I just got a used MKC with lots of miles but way less than 100,000 now this suv has those symptoms but in carfax I don’t see it was e we change or that there was any issues with the vehicle. Also one owner only. So if it bounced it needs change
"Look at your struts after around 50,000 miles"
_panics in 210,000 miles_
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I have a lexus. 200k miles on the original still going strong.
I've had an acura with 180k miles until the shocks gave up. It depends on the car brand.
@@May16Joe
Not true, depends on the road conditions.
Here 2014 Toyota Camry 413000km struts still good
Good info! You should do more maintenance videos like this so people can know what to look out for and why.
Silverhold Glad you enjoyed it!
Agreed
Silverhold I think theres other channels for that. I only enjoy when he explains things as an engineer, not mechanic stuffs, I personally newer watch the reviews either. But thats just me. I would love some more F1 tech. Suspension dynamics and aero. Especially Aero since it's such important factor in racing nowdays
Tommy Melin It's good to have variety as we all have different interests. I certainly don't watch all of the videos of the channels I'm subscribed to. :)
Engineering Explained Hey. Just want a suggestion from you. I live in country where there is a lot of pot holes (bad roads) Which is the best shock observer for sedan? Thanks
It would be great to see more of these 'how to check/tell if something is broken' vids.
really enjoyed this one!
I have a lexus 200t, when I hit a pot hole at 100km/h my shock make a LOUD BANG, works ok in low speed condition, took it to 3 dealers , no one could find the issue as it was hard to reproduce, the only way to know it was damage was to lift the car up and measure the wheel heights at they were different(the one hanging the lowest beeing the shot strut) . Hope it helps somebody.
I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM !! SPEEDING AND HAD A LOUD BANGGG LITERALLY NOBODYYYY COULD FIND THE ISSUEEE it was the struttttt 😣
Yeah, that’s how I usually notice about shocks on a vehicle if I jack it up and it takes an excessively long time to jack up typically structured have no more than a 4 to 6 inch travel to my experience on a car if it has more than that it’s bad
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The only channel I trust besides Parker to diagnose my car
I bought monroe, people seem to dislike them. They are still fairly new (1500 km), one thing i noticed is that they are really hard, only changed the back. When i replace the front ones i will chose another brand cause of that. Too stiff even though they added a shitload of stability and corner hability to my car which is also nice...
I noticed that when I corner and change lane it tends to roll more, also the ride is harsh when hitting rough roads or potholes, plus the steering appears to be off especially when it is windy and my car tend to go off lane . That is the time I had to change my struts at 230k miles Accord and I used all 4 front and back KYB struts
Everything you just said my car has symptoms of. Thanks for an amazingly informative and concise video!
@Engineering Explained How long do the original springs last? Looking to replace rear struts and thinking about using the same spring again instead of getting complete strut assembly. Thanks.
What do you recommend for my is300 2004?I want a more sporty feel.
I have about 260K miles on my 1992 Acura Legend's struts, and I think they're done - lol. I've had a very bumpy ride recently, so I stopped off at the local Discount Tire to have the tires checked, thinking that the tires might have deformed; they found that the front tires are wearing unevenly. The tires were replaced, since they were old anyway, but the ride was still terrible after the replacement. So, I decided to do a thorough inspection of the suspension. I found that the driver's side CV axle boot was torn and flinging grease everywhere and that the joints on the passenger side axle appear to be broken (very floppy). After replacing the axles, the ride improved, but it still feels a little like I'm driving over a gravel road. The struts don't look visibly bad, nor does the car bounce when I perform the "push" test. It looks like it's time to take them apart...or just not be cheap and simply replace them :-)
After 2 years, i tell you this anwyay. No shock absorver lasts so many miles, not even one third of that. My car had stock shocks with only 100.000 kms, from Sachs VW. They were shot, the car felt like a dancer when cornering. So you imagine that when i replaced them, the car felt like a sports car LOL, much better stability mainly when cornering, it became harder but its still much better this way!
260k? Defo knackered shocks.
Struts almost always pass the bounce test unless they are completely blown. A better indicator is tougher bumps, more steering corrections to have to be done at highway speeds, wind gusts making your car tilt, and small bounce vibrations.
Good thing about the struts is unless completely blown u have a lot of time before you need to replace them
Cars are complicated.
Thanks for the info!
So could you please explain the pros and cons of different types of shock absorbers? As I really want to have a deeper insight into them.Thanks!🎉
Thanks for all the information. Well done!!
Very informative and straight forward . Felt like I was in school. Lol thanks man !
Thank!
These kind of infos are gold to the ear!
He mentioned the bushings at the top but didn't explain when you might know those are bad. I just finished replacing the struts on my wife's Nissan about 2 hours ago because the jounce bearings/bushings at the top of the struts were going bad and making a creaking noise when you turn the wheels at low speeds. It sounded just like the creaking you get with a tie rod end or a ball joint and took me while to figure it what it was. So if you ever hear creaking when you turn the wheel and you check the tie rod end and the ball joints are good, you may have bad jounce bearings that are inside the top of the strut. I didn't know this until I happened to my wifes car. I didn't even know there was a turning bushing/bearing in struts that turns when you turn the wheels until now.
I have a crown victoria police interceptor with 215k on it with original struts and I can't tell if the struts are worn out because they feel pretty good and aren't leaking. A worn police strut kinda feels like a new civilian strut (in my head) . Motorcraft claims to have tested them until failure when developing. Which makes sense . Some police crown vics go their entire career on their original struts. Not all departments have big budgets for new comfort parts. So it kinda makes sense they made them pretty heavy duty.
what if it makes creaking noises?
Good quality modern shocks and struts should be just broken in at 50k miles.
Really? Is there a time limit or is it just Miles because my 2015 needs new shocks and struts but I only have a little bit of miles on it when I cross train tracks I feel like I hit a curb
Thank you so much I haven’t looked at them but my tires are worn out unevenly and I can feel my shocks and struts bouncing uncomfortably
Another symptom of worn out shocks is when below freezing shocks might get really stiff and or seaze up completely.. And then when it gets warm again it starts working! But only a tip for those that live where it's cold.. like me -40 Celsius sometimes :)
Research brought me to this video looking for suggestions. In short, my SUV is on its second front set of Gabriel Struts in less than 5 years.
1. The first set were replaced because the top hats growled whenever turning the steering wheel left or right.
2. Now the second set is doing the same as the first but with the addition of the left one making popping sounds, especially when turning left (I placed my hand while my Wife turned the wheel left and felt the spring shift).
3. There is zero vibration or drift while driving/braking at any speed; steering dead-center.
NOTE: All front components (lower Control Arms w/Ball Joints, Inner/Outer Tie Rods, Half Shafts and Hubs w/Bearings, etc.) are all new.
Suggestions?
I've 310k on my 2000 Vw Golf MK4 1.6 still on stock shocks. I've consider replacing my front shocks with bilstein touring ones.
Excellent choice
I really appreciate you bringing all this facts out, im having the same symptoms I mean my car lol,and this video has help me a bunch, my mechanic at Ford order a brand new rack and pinion, the electronic one because of my poor steering and he order me one cause I'm still under warranty, so I will buy new shocks and struts anyway just to have it all combo out completely, thx always
A strut assembly also includes the spring. You didn't discuss the strut spring being worn (ride height lower than original spec). Is there a place to reference factory ride height data?
Quick struts Monroe has issues on mine on every bumps and it is annoying with those noise on rough roads but driving on highway sounds okay. It is a mistake buying aftermarket parts just stick with OEM where they are tested for specific vehicles. Noise was not mentioned at all on this video for Monroe quick struts.
Some years ago, I saw some Monroe promotion material at a car parts store. They really drove the message to replace dampers every 80,000km. They must feel very confident about the quality of their product... 80,000! That's just ridiculous.
That was the day when I decided *not* to buy Monroe. Ever.
How is it possible that my car does not have those symptoms after 250 000 km and the original shocks still on it?
Don't have aftermarket quick struts put in, it's all assembled together and quick and easy to put in but they don't have longevity. If you want longevity and better reliability it's a must to use a spring\coil compressor for safety and only put in a new shock so you can keep the original OEM coil\ springs
this is one well made and well presented video. Thanks.
I rented a ford edge and when it came to speedbumps it felt incredible! My vw sucks at speedbumps! Why is that?
The whole thing is called strut, the inside is shock absorber, then the coil spring is obvious, right? The spring NEVER gets worn or tired (unless it gets physical damage or rust), right?
Will a bad shock absorber mess up the camber? The alignment guy could not get the front left non-adjustable camber in range for my BMW e92 and he said I need new struts. Worn shock absorber should not affect the struct loaded height but the spring (if weakened) would, right?
I would take both struts out and compare their height?
what are your thoughts on the effect of lowering springs on stock shock absorbers?
ScissorsToTheThroat Typically a bad idea as it can allow for the shock absorbers to bottom out (so to speak, the piston travel is altered). I'd always recommend getting a full set (shocks and springs) when doing this that are made to match with one-another, or coilovers.
Engineering Explained could you clarify what you mean by "bottom[ing] out?"
@@EngineeringExplained About how much lower we talk here?
And: I think my H&R lowering springs even state they are meant for original shocks.
@@EngineeringExplained what about bump stops?
We noticed an issue this weekend when going around sharp turns. It sounded like the tires were spinning against the shocks, as if the shocks were riding really low. The traction control light (or skid light?) and it caused us to slow way down. No visible fluid leak and not extra bumpy ride. Any ideas what this might be?
2010 Ltz 2 Wheel Drive Chevy Suburban. Should i convert from electronic struts and shock or replace with same?
Avoid Monroe like the plague. Bought their quick struts for my car and the passenger side took 4 hours and had to go back to autozone to loan the spring compressor to remove the top part of the strut and use the old one plus we had to rotate "shock" so it would line up. The drivers side took a little over an hour and we were able to put it on after compressing and rotating bottom part of the thing. It's been less than a month and already hear the clunk noise on pass side (why i bought the struts in first place). Yes the ride is better than the worn out struts.. way better. However after reading some posts and vids about them it appears that failing early isn't unheard of with monroe struts/shocks. If I had it to do over I'd buy another brand's suspension parts.
Is it necessary to replace the two shock absorbers together, even if the other is in good condition? Knowing that the car has traveled 100,000 miles
Thank you. I learned a loot. I believe I need to replace my shocks and I failed inspection because my left strut is broken. I need to change both because there so much nose dip and bounce if I stop after fast acceleration the car bounces. If I hit deep pot holes in bounces the nose bangs against the pavement. I just hit 100,00 miles on my 2010 bmw 535xi
Is acceleration effected by bad shocks
So I am guessing what you just described are for the struts aswell?
Excellent video as always, BUT explain the physics on what happens if you only decide to change out the rear struts...or the front ones. Will this actually makes things worse?
all of your videos are great man, you explain things very well.
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@@nascar9778 watching Nascar is more boring than watching paint dry
This week I noticed I have a shock leak, the pair have only 6200 miles, and a year old. In this case is it ok to replace only one side or both sides?
After I got all of my struts replaced for the first time, at 230k, the front brake pads don't vibrate and shimmy any more. Monroe Struts, from and independent shop, seemed be a better value than the genuine Honda struts at the Honda Dealership.
Thanks, for comments. What is your thoughts now? I,am due all four corners, ON 2015 FWD Dodge Journey:: considering Monroe( have on my 2007 CANYON 2 DR/ LS GMC, though one Monroe Front Strut May have leak after some 80,000 miles, & imhave relocated , losing my outstanding Tire Store/ Warranties)…
@@opera93 I sold my Honda Civic shortly after I replaced the struts so, I don't know how long they lasted. My 2001 Odyssey has spent struts and I'm still driving it. The car has no real value and it's not worth replacing the spent AC compressor, and the spent struts. I hope to sell it soon.
@@cgrscott thanks, I have generally used Monroe’s, if Choices
I have a 2018 Audi A4 with just 20k miles in. I live in Canada with a lot of snow. During the pandemic, my car was sitting out for 3 months. After winter, my car ride feels bouncy. Can shocks go bad this early?
I have a 2007 Toyota 4 Runner. Big-O-Tires told me I need shock and struts. That was two years ago, and my truck now it rattles like a vibration kinda feel. I would have to release the gas for it to stop. Can this be do to my truck shock and struts?
Thanks.
I have some wanrned out shocks? seems to be the right one only cause car shakes on the right side only or when someone sits on the right side it makes really bad sound around the tire area ?
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The large, floating overhead question is - how do I tell which strut is bad?
My car is a 2004 Toyota Corolla, with 155,526 miles. 🚗 When the front tires hit a bump, something rattles!
I drove slowly along a road with lots of patches. I heard the rattling sound more when the road patches were on the right side. So probably the right strut is failing. 👨🌾
I'm about to reach 100k miles and was considering changing my OEM Front Shocks/Struts to Bilstein B4 or B6. When I change the front suspension, do I have to change the back also? I do a lot of canyon driving.
I just noticed that My FRONT STRUT NUT is Rusted Over when I popped open the hood . I bought a Replacement Front Strut Nut. Can I just simply Undo the NUT and Replace it with the new one? NO need to jack the car up ? Any Torque Settings?
Thanks!
Good info man I’m wondering how I know the right or left side of the shock, I just get a Monroe shock and struts for my 98 Jetta but honestly I don’t see the left or right side on this, it looks similar
Pretty sure the fronts will be identical
i use monroe shocks with some tein lowering springs and they feel great
Does worn Shock Aborbers add to stiff steering ??
I own a i10 in India and it has clocked 1,00,000 Km on it.
Also does worn out Strut bearing make the steering effort more i,e, stiff steering??
Request you to please respond..
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The original OEM dampers on my 1990 Honda CRX Si began to deteriorate at 15,000 miles and by 22-23k were quite ineffective. The car simply lost its sporty feel and stable handling and had more body movement over bumps. Honda Motor Co. must have really up'ed the quality of their dampers since then based on your experience. I've been using Koni Sport adjustable dampers on the CRX since 2000 (daily driver) and they started showing signs of deteriorating damping effectiveness just last summer. The ride quality is just not as good as before regardless of the damper settings. However, they are factory rebuildable.
Thanks for the video! Very interesting. I have a question: What brand of shock absorbs would you recommend? Does it make a difference to buy more expensive KYB instead of cheaper Monroe or other brand?
Thanks for the answer.
monroe are just average aftermarket replacements,nothing extra.
When should springs be considered to change?
Never
If they are broken (snapped in half, or cracked, or fractured).
I got a squeak and it's pretty annoying. Just occured. And these shocks are only 50k old. Mostly highway use.
The shop who replaced them last charged an arm and a leg and apparently used topshelf parts. Which now I doubt. The old shocks/struts lasted 180k.
Hey bro thanks for the video always good!!, I was wondering I was watching another video that included quick strut versus the orginal kind...two different brands, one kyb not quick, and Gabriel quick mount. Expanded they bother came to the same length 23", but the kyb OE was 16.69" and the other 15.94" a difference of 0.75"?...what does that mean for the ride and handling?, appreciate you getting back as this will either make or break my decision of which manufactor I go with, thanks bro.
please, 2002 accord, 160k mi, and like your integra, my front struts look ok with no leaks and no apparent symptoms. question: waste of time to replace? or because of age and miles would not be a bad idea to prophylactically replace? thanks...
Would like to know if the spring on this quick struts would work with the same loud per pound as the oem
Is there an electronic test for the shocks and struts, or even the whole suspension system?
why would a mechanical physical system need a digital test? It is about physical components that wear, not circuit boards. Electronics is what is making new cars very expensive .
Gee EE! How come Monroe let's you play with two struts?
What about check by sound? I'm hearing popping noises from the front end when I turn the steering wheel while stopped.
On the rear should you replace both shocks? Yes of course! Can you just replace one? Well, you can. It will probably improve your handling if the stock you removed was bad. Replacing one shock is better than having two bad shocks. If money is tight, replace that bad shock!
i have a 2008 SAAB 93 v6. its overall in a new shape however I am having unusal hit and discomfort when I am even driving over a tiny bump. the car does not wiggle and its good on highway but jumps unsualy and some time I feel it going away a bit when it passes over a bump in a reletively higher speed around 60 - 80 km/hr. First I thought it because of the big 18" wheels which allow less air cushion that makes the car more sportier rather comfortable. It is obvious but do I need a new shock ? and how to find if they are front or rear ? also what kind of shocks a 2008 SAAB 93 v6 aero has and what would be the best replacement shocks for them ? do they come in full assembly ? and can be changed by self ?
thanks
Took off my rear shock at 85K. Tested and by pressing down on it and it seemed to come back up relatively quick. Even though I already brought the new parts. lol I’ll check them out again at 90K or 95K.
what about a squeaky sound during acceleration after full stop on the right rear tire?
Are these good for an 08' GMC Sierra Denali on 6" lift?
Broken coil springs are surprisingly common these days now that everything is made out of crap. Even if the ride seems right, one should definitely do a visual inspection every now and then.
Would you be able to do a video on engine and transmission mounts? How can you tell if you have broken engine or especially a transmission mount
you put the car into drive with your foot on the brake and give it some gas. a broken mount will make the engine ligt
+nicholas elias lift not light
nicholas elias I knew that part, but I don't know how to check transmission mounts. I know most likely you have to see it to know it is broke, but I don't know if there any other way to tell if a transmission mount is broken.
can someone please make mention the difference in the mount to control arm points , and why they are different , two bolts, u shaped, missing.. how do you know what your car uses before buying the wrong part
Can you do just two struts at a time or do you have to do all four at the same time?
Yes, you can do two at a time, as long as they are installed over the same axle. for example, two new struts on the rear or two new struts on the front.
is 45k miles too early to even think about replacing them assuming you dont sense anything wrong with the suspension while driving
the reason i asked is for example when theres a really good discount on a complete set of shocks would you recommend replacing them even if there are no signs you need to replace them specially if you can do it yourself
What do you do for a living?
I actually needed this video right now because I noticed that my struts were worn out today haha.
Idk what kinda car you have but do the work your self you'll save $$$$
sirrone egdels I luckily have a mechanic friend that can get the parts and installation done for $200, which is more than a third less than the dealer would charge. I'll just let him screw with it over a weekend.
Could bad strut or mount cause your front wheel to move forward closer to the front bumper?
question. i have a 2003 chevy impala. i need shocks as mine are worn out. preferably ones that can handle towing a fully loaded 5x10 trailer withought wearing out completely. im planning on purchasing the police package from advanced auto parts for the front shocks however im unsure what to get for my rear shocks. i was wondering if you had anything in particular in mind as a suggestion
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Very Informative.
good video, but monroe's suck. i refuse to put them in my customers cars. i've used kyb's, bilsteins etc with no problem, but the few times i've used monroes, i've always had a come-back
wenger828 I've been that comeback. :(
I just bought some Monroe shocks and they are very noisy. Sound like metal clanking
@@pennyontrack I bought TRW absorbers, i hope they are good...i think Sachs is the best option but they are more expensive
When to replace coil springs?
Bilstein 4600s. 4 months old and now when I hit a Bump it knocks twice. Think its blown already. I thought bilstein was the best you could get
Does worn shocks also affect acceleration in front wheel drive when too much weight is transfered to thr back?
yes ,it is called excessive squat as opposed to dive in braking.
How do I keep the spring in place with replacing my struts?
Lol I bought a Toyota Camry with 149k miles, and I'm pretty sure it was the original set of shocks and struts that came with the vehicle.
Going down the road feels like I'm in a bouncy house. Seriously not safe.
Look forward to getting them changed and having a safer, more reliable ride. Just waiting on the parts to arrive this weekend so I can play mechanic out in the yard.
It amazes me how absolutely clueless most people are about vehicles. Suspension is how your car gives you a comfortable ride, yes, but bad suspension increases other wear and tear, can lead to catastrophic failure in the wheel wells, and decreases steering control.
I bought Monroe 10kmile ago and they've already fallen apart
Similar experience here after 15k my monroe have gone weak, to the point of excessive body roll and small bump chatter, won't be buying them again!!!
Buy KYB
I am planning to change my shocks any recommendation monroe ? Kyb ? Gabriel ??
stay away from monroe, kyb are good
Hey Jason, awesome video. Can you do one on tie rods/control arms etc!
What about the loose feeling when you drive through the potholes? Is that from shocks? I had changed them 30k miles ago but driving in nyc might have done some damage
infonotfound I'm thinking that's more the springs at this point.
I'm getting all four shocks replaced in three days! 02 Volvo S40 with 110k miles on. I'm getting Monroe Originals (as they are called here in Europe).
It's done. The difference in handling, ride comfort and braking distance is stunning.
Nice to hear so after all the Monroe bashing
When I ask a professional to check it they want to charge 900 and say its worn when it has no issues
I Would love a video explaining bump steer and suspension geo.
Most factory (original equipment manufacture) shocks / struts last 200,000 miles. Most Aftermarket shocks last 50-75,000 miles. There are a few exceptions that happen though. You're usually Better off buying new OEM replacement parts. As nearly all aftermarket parts are of seriously poor quality. ALWAYS Keep In Mind these companies want you to Buy Early and Buy Often... Its how they Maximize Profits and Market Share... Same with your local friendly shop... They can't pay their 15,000 a month rent telling customers their oem parts look good enough and are serviceable. Always get a second opinion... This coming from a repair shop Owner....
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I am from Germany and i can tell you that Monroe is not a good brand. In Germany nobody want to install it on cars. Here we use Sachs or Bilstein. With this two brands you cant make it wrong. Sachs is OEM deliver for BMW and Mercedes.
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I bought some cheap monroes for the truck. They literally pulled apart before 2 months. Rod completely pulled in half. Never again. Bilsteins and kyb only from now on
Sachs? TRW?
If you compress a strut by hand (no spring) should it rebound completely?
BAYAREAMX Yes, slowly.
my car has this sound from the back we replaced the shocks twice from the when we go over bumps we hear scarring and strange noises from the back
I just got some monroe struts for my 8th gen civic si and the driver side one makes noise..
My front right shock is leaking oil or fluid on top. The mechanic said if U replace it, it should be two. Otherwise the new shock will carry most of the weight if only U changed the damaged one. How true is that? Maybe he only wants to make more money for the shop or what? I need your expert advice....
Thanks, jojo
anything on suspension done is done in pairs. Two shocks, sway bar links, top mounts. It should be same stuff on same axel. I mean it doesnt have to but it should if u plan on driving it in future