I clicked on this video fully believing it was going to be some kind of joke, or bit, but I was pleasantly surprised to see it was a genuine and insightful look into this topic. Thank you for this.
Shitposting more often refers to a low-quality attention bait, not necessarily offensive. But I must admit, seeing a monk delving into the clash of the buddhism and modern internet language and culture is VERY entertaining.
@@ultimatemeaning also the definitions you mentioned in another comment are quite different from the original meaning. especially when it comes to trolling. originally troll was a verb, referring to troll fishing, where a forum user would make a provocative post as bait, often a wild unbased claim, to see who would believe it. some were repeated. it was more like an inside joke amongst forum regulars and typically only new or gullible users would fall for it, and sometimes a regular might back up OP's post. it was at someone's expense, but it was more of a joke made in good fun, kind of like how employees like to mess with the new guy. it wasn't malicious like modern trolls which were associated with the troll creature, that just aim to be offensive and edgy
This reminds me of a meme I saw recently that felt like the lesson of a koan: "Yes, I've finally rid myself of my ego and I'm finally better than everyone else!"
That phrase is such a funny contradiction, even though I'm not versed in Buddhism myself. Like, by bringing oneself to say "I got myself free from ego" is already mission failed, no? In my completely layman understanding, if you think you can determine whenever you are unbound from your ego, you are still attaching your sense of self to the action of relinquishing the notion of self. Which means that you are still attached to ego
This has nothing to do with ur comments but i love how people in comments can either be the smartest amd most insigtful humans alive to the most stupidest beings on the planet 😁
Hey guys. I had one under my bed when I was a kid, but he was originally from under a bridge and went back when I learned everything he could teach me. Sometimes we text.
@@ultimatemeaning thank you. Your video was very interesting. I've watched trolling videos in the past as a Buddhist and I never stopped to think how unethical they are.
It’s a confusing world we live in. One week ago I was an American atheist watching this recommended video and I was moved enough to listen to more, where I watched interviews with monks. Then I started listening to intro Buddhist podcasts all day at work for a few days, up to today when I contacted my local Vajrayana temple to try to connect with a teacher, volunteer and perhaps learn enough to take refuge. Exciting and scary times, I thank you for your part in it.
You can still remain an American atheist through this journey. Buddhism doesn't negate your Americanism, nor does it compel you to believe in the existence of God with a capital G.
@@Baronnax very true you make a good point. It’s certainly been a turning point in life the past month. Truthfully I had been receptive to Buddhism because of that fact. I have always had a very difficult time conceptualizing a higher power. Unfortunately for me since I like in the state of Maine there aren’t any local teachers for me so I’ve been learning from books and attending Sunday group meditation at a small temple. I’m also hoping this winter to be able to afford to retreat to blue cliff monastery in New York.
Even though I'm no longer a Buddhist or religious I completely support your decision in my opinion it's all about finding a positive community where there's love and compassion and open-mindedness follow your love and passion 😎👍
Thank you so very much for this video! As someone who fairly recently discovered spriritual practice as a whole, and has found more peace & love in the last few years than all of my upbringing, seeing/hearing people spreading this message makes me very happy. I'm still very much a work in progress. For me, shitposting is about elation in the absurd. I consider myself a shitposter but not a troll, because my goal is to bring people happiness, share in their joys and sorrows, make them feel heard and seen. It's kind of become a language of its own, and it's one I speak like second nature as someone who grew into adulthood with the internet. I really do my best to refrain from putting people down, especially in a socially charismatic way that can turn community against them. This video is an excellent reminder to be true to these ideals.
Sorry Mark I am new to the term I was going by my own experience and the Dictionary definition: "the activity of posting deliberately provocative or off-topic comments on social media, typically in order to upset others or distract from the main conversation." ♥
This is the kind of trolling I'm talking about. It's subtle and funny and not hurtful. The dictionary definition of trolling is so skewed to the point it's just describing a bully. This comment is gold though, I appreciate you.
Why does TH-cam algorithm gotta call me out like this? It’s hurt. Growing up in a dualist tradition tormented my mind from a very young age. When I found relief in non-duality, I felt anger towards my upbringing for never bringing me peace. I rationalize it by saying I’m attacking ignorance, but the reality is I’m only attacking myself. Thank you for the message.
@@ultimatemeaningHi, you are probably getting overwhelmed with questions and posts and this may not be best place for discourse. But in case you see this i wanted to ask. I heard a guru say if a person is an asshole and becomes enlightened hes still an asshole. The initial enlightenment doesnt remove the karma or clear the personality of impurities but still makes the person self realized in nonduality. Early in life i had a spontaneous awakening experience of the underlying self in everything and non dual separation to everything with a period of bliss, presence, peace, connection and compassion. But it did not dissolve my karmas or clear all negativity from me after a period of time passes bliss stopped and entered into dark night of soul experience for a while so much karma and negativity came to surface and malevelent entities attached to it to provoke and stroke anger and negativity more to get back at people for injustices experienced... According to advaita vedanta only after death does an enlightened one clear karmas. I realize there are higher stages of enlightenment filled with more bliss, love and peace permanently, filled with shakti energy as some say. I been initiated into shaktipat kundalininawakening recently and may continue down this path, but as for my initial awakening and experience of unity consciousness altho it did make me realize non duality in everything it did not clear all negativity and personality impurities
Oh come on if you grew up in a Eastern society you would have your own crap that was just a different story. Romanticizing non-duality is just being silly.
@@patrickbertlein4626 I’m not sure what romanticizing you think is being done. Non-dualism brought me peace where I previously did not know it. But it is not a pass for an easy life. It is not even a guarantee for a better life. It has given me peace. That is all that is undeniable.
I thought self realization is supposed to be permanent. If your brain has now convinced that you are not there then how could it still experience dark nights if it true knows that there is no one there. Or maybe it was just a phase not the actual non dual realization? *Truely @@arete7884
This has enlightened me, I feel changed just by hearing your words, kind sir. I wish to not let my negativity get the best of me again. I feel so fulfilled. Thank you!
Your mala looks like Tiger’s Eye. Am I correct? I see you engaging with your audience, it is refreshing and I can tell how sincere you are about the things that you care about. I will remember you, as I go forward. I will try to be my very best. I’m glad that I discovered your existence.
Hi IMI. I am very much trying to communicate with people like you in an attempt to clarify the spiritual path in a contemporary way that is accessible but not corrupted. Thanks for your vote of confidence. It helps 🙏🙏🙏
@@imikokodama3054 It is Bodhi Seed the best all round substance for a mala. That means it can be used for all different types of mantra practice like, wrathful, peaceful, magnetizing, etc. ...
@ultimatemeaning my brain is fried or I'd probably actually be a decent student. I occasionally slip into being a bit of a non duality troll. Not often but I do occasionally say stuff that I do stand behind but I know sometimes I'm kinda being a dick. I am so fried though. I ask God often to let me move on to whatever is next and I agree thst it is ok if that is hell. I don't even know why I do that. It seems drastic to accept hell as opposed to just staying here. I love it here, especially animals and birds and insects and plants as well as nature but my experiences w/ people I guess I'd why a lot of times I'd choose death & hell over this. I feel broken beyond repair but I continue, 40 years feeling this way most of thst 40. I don't mean to be a bummer, sorry about that. I just don't understand how I feel sometimes & I don't have any friends or family to talk to. Great post too. Mahalo
I had an ego death experience in January. It was very much an "under the Bodhi Tree" experience (you can thank my therapist for that phrase). I felt non-dualism. I didn't even know that's what it was until some time later. I just felt as though there was nothing between me and the world and that everything touches everything. In the days that followed, things got tougher. I thought to myself, "I can't live in society anymore. I need to find a temple to live in far away from all of this pain and suffering and dysfunction around me." But I decided to stay in the world and live an embodied life. The months that followed were challenging. Even though I had experienced non-dualism so very clearly, I was living in a dualistic world and everyone around me was unsettled by me. Eventually they became quite upset with me. I experienced a lot of meanness and selfishness from people I believed cared about me. In response, I felt myself becoming bitter and angry at times -- mechanisms my brain was using to protect my newborn baby ego. It took about six months, but I finally found some balance with living an embodied life in regular society. I also now very much understand how someone like Alan Watts could seem to understand so much about these concepts and yet also die from alcoholism. Living an embodied life amongst people is extremely challenging. If you live amongst those who are still staunchly dualistic in their manner and way of being -- and they far and away outnumber you -- then you must play on this chessboard in some measure. I still experience anger, fear, anxiety, interpersonal upset, get involved in egoic concerns -- things that had seemingly disappeared for a short while. But attempting to hold onto "pure" non-dualism while living in a dualistic world was a fool's errand. I realized this profound ego death experience was just another thing that I needed to let go of -- that if I held to it too tightly, it actually caused me more suffering. Since then, while I do experience negative emotions and have egoic concerns, they pass through me much faster. I have learned nothing is to be kept. To let joy and pleasure and happiness and pain and frustration and fear linger only as long as is required for me to learn from them and then to let them go. This is how I have learned to experience non-dualism while living in a dualistic world. I hope this helps anyone who may be struggling to find balance. I could have slipped into spiritual bypass. Many do. But I had a good spiritual teacher in my therapist to guide me through this period of intense psychological rebirth.
“Live neither in the entanglements of outer things, nor in inner feelings of emptiness. Be serene in the oneness of things and such erroneous views will disappear by themselves. When you try to stop activity by passivity your very effort fills you with activity. As long as you remain in one extreme or the other you will never know Oneness” 3rd Chinese Zen patriarch
When I first clicked on this video, for some reason the audio on my phone was not loading and I thought this video was 7:51 min of this guy mouthing words with no sound. I thought I just got trolled by a Buddhist. HAHA
When I see a video like this pop up on my home page, I immediately wonder, “is this a serious video or a joke video?” And that should speak volumes about the state of online content. I am not spiritual, so I cannot speak on that perspective of things, but I am very familiar with online culture and have some things that are noteworthy. Firstly, shitposting is not necessarily negative. A shitpost is effectively content people make for the internet that is intentionally nonsensical, but nonsense isn’t explicitly malicious. In fact, many people find great joy in these nonsense posts (including myself occasionally). That does not mean there are no malicious shitposts, I’m just pointing out they are not inherently a negative thing. It’s more so just a new age form of artistic expression, and the intention of that art is decided by the artist, be it positive or negative. Secondly, trolls are usually people who take pleasure from upsetting other people, but the act of trolling can also be a tool that people use to entertain each other. Compare it to teasing. I grew up in a family where my parents teased me and made fun of me, but in an endearing way, and now as an adult I am able to laugh at myself and not feel self conscious or worry about being teased. However, this is a social group type phenomenon, so if you are not in that social group where trolling is harmless, then it could hurt people, just as teasing people who did not experience teasing positively could hurt people. Long story short, while I would say most trolls are probably finding enjoyment in other people’s anger, it depends on both their intentions and the community in which they are trolling. It’s never wise to write off an entire group of people as being the same, especially when you are saying something negative about the group. As for haters, I’m not sure there is any positivity there. The most I can say about haters is that the term is often used by insecure people as a coping mechanism for legitimate criticism. A genuine hater is someone who just hates someone unconditionally, so they are bad, but when people use that term I think more often than not, they have problems in themselves they are not willing to face, and the hater label is how they discredit people offering constructive criticism. Realistically, if you do not have some level of fame, it is unlikely for people to hate you unconditionally. If you are just a normal person, people who dislike you may have valid reasons, and you should self reflect and find out if you need to change. On the internet, their “legitimate reason” may be that you have a different opinion than them. It is obviously ridiculous to hate someone because their opinion differs, but that is the state of internet debate at this point. If I reply to someone’s comment in a comment section, and respectfully disagree with them, one of two things will happen. Everyone will say mean and awful things to me, sometimes personally attacking me, or people will agree with me and say mean and awful things to the person whom I was respectful towards. I do not allow what they say to bother me, but it is a very malicious way of communicating, and I suppose those people could be labeled as haters in the sense that they are spreading hate. When people usually use the term though, a hater is someone who almost obsessively hates a single individual. Someone who seeks out interactions with someone they hate, so that they can continue to spread that hate towards them. I think people often forget, even with adults alive who are younger than the internet, the internet is still in its infancy. It has been wildly accessible for only 20ish years. Theoretically, if I remember correctly, it takes about 10,000 years for humans to fully adapt to their environment. For perspective, the oldest known mirror is 8,000 years old, and so we are not even fully adapted to seeing a clear reflection of ourselves, let alone adapted to any of the incredible technology that exists today. We are using this technology with a mind that is still adapted to primitive tools and environments. Technology will not stop either. We will never adapt, unless there is a technology ceiling, and I’m doubtful there is, or if there is, we will not reach it. This was a good video and I thank you for sharing your perspective. I hope this comment gives you a broader perspective. I’m sure there is more internet culture and terminology you have yet to explore, and maybe when you explore them, you’ll be inclined to make another video!
"I am not spiritual" - You are a spirit in a costume. You are not the body, you will give up your body (costume) soon and what you are was NEVER born and will never DIE. You simply pass from this 'earth school' to your next adventure. Good luck brother.
@andrewevenson2657 I disagree with your take on hater. I think there are people who use hater as the way you described. However hater usually means people who judge or criticize other people whenever they do something they don't agree with even when it isn't harmful. If you like rock music and people say you are weird for liking it then they are haters. If you like wearing pink and people judge you for it, than those people haters. If you like science and history and people judge you for it, they are haters. Basically whenever you try to be yourself, express yourself, or do something that makes you happy without harming yourself or others and people judge you for it, those people are haters. When rappers make their music, and have their own style and people critique them for expressing themselves, those people are haters. There are a lot of people on the internet that just like to critique other people for trying to be their authentic selves and being happy, and many people just try to spread negativity. That's why people say ignore the haters. Do what makes you happy. If you like to sing and people judge you for it, ignore them because they just want to hate. It has very little to do hating you unconditionally. I have never heard it used that way.
I too am guilty of being a spiritual troll on several occasions. I recognized how my comments had the potential to cause suffering mere moments after posting. I felt that I had to correct people in their understanding. I realized how foolish and arrogant I had been. I still catch myself identifying with ego daily. I do not judge myself when it happens, instead I acknowledge it, understand why it happened, then let it go. Dropping the ego is truly a hero's journey.
😂 how dare we help other people, that would be egotistical. Not sure if buddists realize how silly and hypocritical they sound to everyone else when they say that but someone should enlighten them.
I don't think "dropping the ego" alltogether makes sense. Acknowledge it as the tool that it is but do not identify with it. The carpenter doesnt identify with his hammer, but dropped uncarefully it may cause harm :D (I dont really know if this makes any sense anywhere thats not my persepective, but i i kinda like that picture)
In general then we need to correct ourselves first, but having said that the dharma is all about recognising our faults and so teachers talk about the negative aspects of Samsara. In general if you are truly well motivated then things should work out all right ♥
I realized I’m often looking for an argument (or “opportunity to correct someone” - gotta love euphemisms!) and then wonder why people are antagonistic and bossy towards me. 🤦🏻♀️
Thank you Kristy and its a difficult call, because some will not appreciate my profanity, but I want to address some rather raw issues that are none the less directly related to the spiritual path 🙏🙏🙏
Socrates would be called a troll today for telling egoists the truth. You are right that true trolls are people who go out of their way to cause problems, but it's been my experience that anyone who pokes the cognitive dissonance of ignorant people gets called a troll by the ignorant people. Very often the person being accused of being a troll is actually the more spiritually enlightened one acting in good faith, and the other person can't handle it. But you are right about what you say, too.
Thanks for that clarification, sadly I am not versed in the subtle differences between the various types of trolls, but here I am generalising those with malicious intent to cause trouble out of their own unhappiness. It is also part of the Buddhist tradition to debate and use criticism to clarify understanding (something that requires skill and learning). thanks for sharing! 🙏🙏🙏
Honestly this is what is happening to me It also doesnt help that im an autist... My best friend jokingly calls me socrates when i burst the cognitive dissonance bubbles and get people angry at me... he just roars with laughter when it happens lol
@Bleilock1 this also raises the question: if the style of your questioning or criticism leads to that kind of reaction, what have you achieved? Could the same message not be worded in such a way that people do feel like they want to take your point seriously? (Not saying I'm not guilty myself, by the way 😅)
@@ultimatemeaning MAGA are unable to learn because learning requires us to disassemble the boxes of pretaught or learned behaviours. They get uncomfortable in this state because it goes against everything they are comfortable with.
This video was incredibly entertaining. The title was a great one, and your point was spot on about the purpose of our spiritual growth and enlightenment.
Well, actually it's egotism, not materialism. There are some people (especially monks and priests) attached to poverty. They somehow think that material stuff is not spiritual. In the end, there is no difference between what the ego is attached to, money or poverty. All attachments have to go; even the holy ones. But I like the ALIBABA finish. Splendid. I feel honored. 🙏
Shearing the differences between belief,faith trust and absolute truth is a length. Some thing is worthy of hatred, overcoming being ultristic. Everyday be good, Unless troll has too many thieves. Interlectual ones. When the idea is eaten, crossing the bridge between truth and trust it can have 1,000 fold effect on the holder of innocence. Turtles looking for Splinter.
That’s a good insight! Attachment to wealth, attachment to poverty are both attachment to money. Attachment to sex and attachment to celibacy are both attachment too, then. Attachment to relationships and attachment to solitude, both anre attachment. Really valuable insight! Seems to me the only logical thing is to accept the unfolding of one’s life with equanimity. Accept the changes in wealth, changes in health, changes in status, changes in relationship, etc. the best we can.
@@jonmustang Yes, until we train ourselves to be peaceful there will be things in our reality that point us to where we have to work on ourselves. That's why it's valuable to have an experience of the worldly life; here we can measure how holy we are. It's easy to fool oneself in the monastery. That's why there's a joke, when you think you've got enlightened go visit your family. 🤣
I quite like this video because it is a break from the usual Internet shenanigans and negativity while still involving and referring to the Internet. It is like a sight of what could be. I am still going to use the Internet extensively. I am not going to become a monk nor go into retreat, but I still like some of the ideas of Buddhism. So just plain seeing it in a more relatable context is surprisingly making me feel inspired.
I really appreciate your direct and clear speech. And thanks for the opportunity to present in comments my two principles of human delusion: 1. I want what I want and I want it now ! 2. If you would only change, I could be happy.
In my darkest years (all of my 20s) I said terrible things to people. I was a rather hateful person, but only because I didn't know how to love. It was all an expression of misery, and of course such expression makes the continuation of misery inevitable.
The hardest thing is to love yourself and that way begin to experience compasion for others. imho you do not have to these beings, but you can experience compassion and equanumity as a result of loving yourself. Much love. ❤
@@ultimatemeaning It’s the thought that matters the most in this case. It’s comforting to know that you’re really engaged with your followers and care about their thoughts!
@@ultimatemeaningNo, I’m being real. Not trolling, you have been away for 2 years. You will be disappointed constantly. Wickedness we can’t imagine. Accept it or else you will become a doomer. The frog is the frog and the scorpion is a scrooion 🙏 🙏
@@badart3204 crazy stuff😢 but I stand by my comment. The tide is not going to change. This will not end, the state our grandkids will grow up in will be wicked evil place. A spiritual battle, the tele-robo-doc gets me to smother myself in the nursing home.
@@badart3204 I will add it to my list thank you. I’m starting to read books. They actually are changing how I think. I have to read slow, school taught me how to skim read. I have a list of books and things to read. Including yours it’s 7. It’s gonna take awhile
I clicked this video because the title made me laugh, but you've given me some food for thought. I've subscribed and I look forward to hearing more of your philosophy.
I’m not so sure about engaging in “non-dual” trolling, but I realize that I sometimes allow myself to be pulled into acting upon my desire to trigger others by confronting their beliefs that seem ridiculous to me. Fortunately it doesn’t happen often, but when it does I can feel the emotions becoming stronger and I know that what I am doing isn’t actually helping anyone. I trust that I am getting further away from that part of me and that the link will break! What a great topic!🙏🏼
It could be interesting to observe this mindfully to speed up this proces and see where this desire originates. The insight can promote emotional freedom. 🙏
Proverbs 15:1 (NIV): "A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger." Dhammapada 223: "Overcome anger by non-anger; overcome evil by good. Overcome the miser by giving; overcome the liar by truth." 2 quotes I reccomend every service industry worker keep in mind when dealing with customer complaints.
@@lordvoldamort4606 That's literally what has been done for every well known holy book throughout history, and you see what that has gotten humanity. Just look at all the texts of the Mahabharata and the taboos regarding caste and sexuality. See how the division took root and grew between Islam and Judaism when the old testament was not included in the Quran. Both cultures call Abraham their ancestor, yet today they kill, kidnap, and torture each other without cessation. Pay a visit to the Vatican archives and see the texts not included in the Bible (no, don't bother, it's not allowed for lay people to read the texts in the basement). Take an examination of the First Council of Nicaea, and the punishments and suffering doled out to those who thought differently of Christ's words. It was the desire of holiness and preferential interpretation that led directly to inquisitions, executions, and torture. How could you or any group of people look through all holy writings from all authors and precisely determine which odes to which deities for which subjects should be considered best? How would you throw the ones you don't like away? What would you do to compensate for linguistic drift and new terms in all languages?
Clicked for the title, but stayed for the talk , as it was a good alignment to remember to try and go more towards positivity then negativity, thank you 🙏
There isn't a day that goes by without me wishing I were a better person. Free from anger, judgement and impatience. I seem stuck between being authentic and acknowledging my reactions to the world, and feeling phoney pretending to be otherwise. I wish my heart were light and free from attachments and old habits totally surrendered to the source of my being.
A friend sent this to me and we had a good laugh at the time but I decided to give it a watch now. Genuinely interesting, thank you for your unique perspective on something I typically never really thought about until now.
As an atheist from a Christian country, this video got me genuinely interested in Buddhism. Now i want to learn about Buddhism and compare it to with my current ideologies, beliefs, values and philosophies and try to explain it with them to myself and maybe even take some from Buddhism. To me it seems like they have some similarities. For a long time i had pretty different ones than i have now and i didn't think about them as much as now and my wellbeing wasn't good. Now that my philosophy has changed, i have a different look on what i know about Buddhism. This video reminded me about Buddhism and got me thinking about what if my ideology has something in common with Buddhism. Thank you a lot!
This wish to investigate the nature of phenomena for oneself is key to the Buddhist approach. I hope your quest bring clarity and bears fruit swiftly 🙏🙏🙏
Any time I see so called spiritual teachers who are cursing, harsh, vindictive, gossiping and so on, I just think, "what on earth are THEY doing "teaching" anything?" That's not someone to aspire to be. That's not a good example. You don't even need a book or another person to tell you that's not right. You know in your heart it isn't.
You are so right my friend vindictive behaviour is a sing of lack of spiritual progress, but having said that most spiritual teachers these days are just ordinary people with ordinary faults. But of course they should do their best not to display animosity. Thank you for sharing 🙏
@@1000REMBOY Not sure if that's the proper context for this. I am not trying to teach. I don't claim to be a teacher. I am saying that you need to be pure yourself to teach about purity.
@@nc956 You say that as if you are capable of non-judgement. News flash, nobody is. Your thoughts are not neutral, and you and every living thing judges, and indeed must judge. That verse is more about checking your own nature before checking the nature of others.
I am a newcomer to Buddhism. And slowly but surely it is transforming my understanding of myself and others. I do not have great knowledge of scriptures, but I know kindness and compassion that I can perceive in his teaching. Thank you for your message of kindness. May you be well, happy and peaceful.
Shitposting can be a very spiritually fulfilling activity, at the core of it is just a want of getting a laugh out of people (kinda fits into what you said about altruism) tho theres def a fair few bad apples who also label their stuff as shitposting I shitpost because others shitposting is what stopped me from feeling like shit and hopefully I can do the same
@@ultimatemeaning anger and bitterness is hardly shitposting in the original sense of the word. The original use of the word came from a bunch of mischief-makers on 4chan posting "low quality" nonsense posts on the (then limited) boards. The original users, who were very obsessive and heavily immersed in discussing only what they believed mattered and staying strictly on topic, were furious. Thus it became a sort of pseudo-war with the Originals trying to drown out the shitposts with "quality" threads while the shitposters intensified their "signal jamming." Eventually, the Shitposters won, and the Originals conceded that yes, shitposting was actually pretty funny and yes, ultimately everything that exists is related to everything else, so being "off topic" on a recreational forum that adheres to Freedom of Speech principles is a nonsensical proposition in the first place. As a result, the 4chan of digital legend was born, and went on to troll and shitpost, both online and irl, to great effect, effectively dabbing on the normies. However, as a result of modern Progressive ideology demonizing anything that rebels against its authority, "shitposting" became demonized and seen as a "harmful" activity. As a result some genuinely bitter and wrathful ones just went around posting their actual opinions and calling it shitposting (but any true shitposter can recognize the sincerity in their post in a minute, as its a different spirit behind it) when in fact real shitposting was and still is being the embodiment of the "Jester god" common to many mythologies: you're causing trouble, stirring up a bit of strife, and getting up to mischief, but in the end you're really just expanding people's horizons and opening them up to new thoughts, ideas, and ways of seeing the world through the perfect combination of humor and suffering. Humor is the cake, the suffering is the frosting. As an aside, we have archaeological evidence of shitposters in the Roman Empire. It was apparently somewhat common behaviour to scrawl meaningless posts and inside jokes onto hidden parts of stone walls back then, exactly the ancient equivalent of modern shitposting, especially in its early days. Shitposters build empires because they're bored, and shitpost to inspire others to higher levels of understanding.
this video impacted me positively even though i clicked this with the lowest expectations. its beautiful that i clicked on this video, expecting it to be a joke or shitpost because of the absurdity of the title, and yet this video criticises that very aspect of the internet. thank you.
As much as I'd like to love and be compassionate to people. I'm going to click this next video on my recommended tab which is about moving wasp nests anywhere, and we'll see how the rest of my day goes.
You have to have some sense of ego or you would not willfully live, the human condition is parasitic. Any belief that attempts to make you doubt reality isn't a good belief to have or spread.
That’s great! That means you’re learning something about yourself and being honest about it. That’s the way forward, my friend. You’re expressing the opposite of a “spiritual troll” in that sense. Try to notice if your experience is constant or if it is fluctuating? Remember, it is neither good nor bad. Just the way it is right now! Good luck in your practice. 🙏🙏🙏
i am not Buddhist, but i married a Buddhist. when i got this video in my algorithm, i genuinely thought for a second that somehow, i was getting his recommendations, until i saw "Shitposting for Buddha" and could not stop my own curiosity from leading me here. the resulting education you've given me is valuable beyond any words i can think of now. it's given me a shard of positivity and light when my sociology classes have left me drained and depressed looking at numbers suggesting doom through negativity that's infected even institutions of society itself. we are on different paths, but i absolutely admire and appreciate the steps you take on yours, and i'm grateful i had the chance to watch and learn to adjust my own gait. 💕
@@ultimatemeaning he saw it over my shoulder as i was checking this comment now and got a pretty good laugh out of it! immediately wanted to know if this was a lesson or a review of Buddhist memes. i told him it was the former, but we'd both enjoy the latter if you ever came around to that!
The most common variety of spiritual trolls I run across are “nondual police”. Jeff Foster has a great video that portrays the difficulties of trying to have a conversation with one. It’s called: The Advaita Trap 1: Absolute and Relative Confusion - The Cartoon
Be careful calling people challenging social norms and society to grow as a "spiritual troll". Religous wars bring about questions, such as Christopher Hitchens who wrote books and had college debates. All these new terms that are not real words or terms only feed the leftist paradigm that masquerades as liberalists when they are really just communists. If someone identifies as spiritual who is anyone to tell them any different? Lets not be hypocrites. Anyone can just as easily call anyone else a spiritual troll or a misled individual based on them simply being sensitive. In reality the Pope himself with all his ties to corruption can be called a spiritual troll and yet he has millions of followers. Do You not see that? Or maybe you are not learned enough or maybe you are too sensitive or maybe or maybe or maybe not open minded enough or maybe or maybe _--... you see? What upsets you is just your teacher --_ ... hmmm rhetorical. Let me make this clearer, i am trying to make you think, i am not a "troll". Thank you💯
Hopefully people domt start book burning and going against 1st amendment because of new statements and made up terms and labels such as "spiritual troll" -_-
Great video, though as some say not all shitposting is meant to cause negative feelings. For example, please let me share a story with you A serious young man found the conflicts of mid 20th Century America confusing. He went to many people seeking a way of resolving within himself the discords that troubled him, but he remained troubled. One night in a coffee house, a self-ordained Zen Master said to him, "go to the dilapidated mansion you will find at this address which I have written down for you. Do not speak to those who live there; you must remain silent until the moon rises tomorrow night. Go to the large room on the right of the main hallway, sit in the lotus position on top of the rubble in the northeast corner, face the corner, and meditate." He did just as the Zen Master instructed. His meditation was frequently interrupted by worries. He worried whether or not the rest of the plumbing fixtures would fall from the second floor bathroom to join the pipes and other trash he was sitting on. He worried how would he know when the moon rose on the next night. He worried about what the people who walked through the room said about him. His worrying and meditation were disturbed when, as if in a test of his faith, ordure fell from the second floor onto him. At that time two people walked into the room. The first asked the second who the man was sitting there was. The second replied "Some say he is a holy man. Others say he is a shithead." Hearing this, the man was enlightened.
Well said. I try very hard to follow a similar path in my own way. Compassion is never wasted, even if it is not accepted. And sometimes all we can do is be good examples to others.
This message was not at all what I thought it was going to be from the title but it turned out a lot better than what I was assuming. I really thought you were going to teach how to properly shitpost for Buddha 😂😅 No fear I’m not actually interested in shitposting or causing trouble for others 😊 and it’s my sincere wish for your liberation from Samara 🙏
@@ultimatemeaning You jest, but there is a lot of truth in that.. Some great zen-masters of the past were reported to be childlike idiots. It is probably that they weren´t stuck in that state and possibly how Zen accomodated some actual idiots. I think the option of a temporary lobotomy is why people are attracted to narcotics and drugs. It is empowering to do the same through meditation in a non-harmful way. It is touching and freeing to do it together. Like drinking together, but without many of the negative consequences. Does a dog have buddha nature? MU!
I get them on my other channel all the time. "Who is meditating????? Dear?" My answer - "I am. I do not exploit the wisdom of nonduality to absolve myself of responsibility." They never come back :)
your words are truth brother,i'll admit to find the antidote for the mental poison of negativity seems just out of reach at times when i know it's right there,that's alright,i fall down,i get up.
Yeah I wasn't really questioning that aspect of it, but the only people I've encountered are just venting their anger and not really trying to do anything positive
@@marksmandrilla7057 Being able to recognise that someone is trying to upset you, and that someone actually managing to get to you, are two different things.
Thanks for sharing. I think some people jump into the non dual concepts without first humbling and working on themselves because they heard about it in an old lecture from some ex hippies and like to police others online, and spiritual bypass the work it takes to get to that realization. I see non dual as an ultimate goal when you purify your negative aspects to see yourself and the world clearly, but so many online try and sell themselves as something they are not for influence or popularity. Counter intuitively the best thing is not engage the trolls unless they are actually trying to learn. Though Sometimes what can be considered a troll to some could be like a Buddha pointing out others mistakes, but that is about context/perspective such as trying to open up the minds of dogmatic religious people by explaining the deeper universal meaning of a teaching. To them it would seem like a troll spreading dangerous heresy.
This is an insightful video, which I enjoyed, but when I first saw the title I imagined something along the lines of you saying "Dualism is a flawed concept, Everything is impermanent, and attachment is the cause of most of your suffering, deal with it" then it freezeframes with the "Forgot about Dre" beat playing and those emoji sunglasses and the blunt superimposed on your face.
Im no holy man, but ive done some shitposting in my day. I love the Buddha's teachings and i consider myself generally compassionate. i ultimately agree with what you are saying but theres some social nuance to these more modern terms that i worry you are missing. Where trolling typically denotes acting on bad faith, "being a hater" is usually not something someone calls themselves but is a label put on them for being critical of something deemed good by a group or the majority in some sense. So "being a hater" isn't explicitly bad, as one might call the Buddah the ultimate hater for rejecting all that he did. Shitposting is a totally different, as the goal is usually comedy, and rarely to actually make anyone feel bad. the term is used differently by different groups on the internet, but generally it refers to sharing things whimsically or without proper context. Personally i think shitposting is the more arcane of the 3, as it could be as simple as sharing ones feeling or it could be as abstract as someone commenting buddhist quotes beneath a video about something completely unrelated, like on a video about economics or something... Either way great video! I liked and subscribed! 🙏 hope you share more wisdom soon.
honestly thats what i thought this video was going to be about. like being an anti guru or something. it goes both ways tho for the person shitposting and revieving it. if either person gets angry its their ego so really its an opportunity to realize your ego happening on both sides
@@ultimatemeaning no need to apologize, its the average person at fault (myself included) for being chronically online 😅 A 12 year retreat is real commitment! I have the utmost respect for what you are doing. I used to meditate everyday, thinking of the 3 jewels, 4 noble truths, and the noble eightfold path, but 10 years have passed and i have fallen back into average materialism and attachment. I still hold dear the essence, but i do not feel the peace or focus i once had. Do you have any advice for someone like me?
@@markop.1994you are true. Remember that you can always take the time to reflect in action the no self in when what and how you interact with material. As I read your comment I feel like you had been reading all the fundamental foundational in meditation. Step more into the physical practice of the love of the human experience.
@@ultimatemeaning peace and blessings. I have a question. How would you compare the difference in man’s perception of suffering from when you stepped away and now that you have been reintroduced to daily interactions with man now.
Some at my monastery struggled for a little with nonbinary and their pronouns but in just a week with many reflections everyone sees them for who they are which is really sweet.
You talk about not having achieved genuine compassion, but I see in your face a deep serenity that I don't see very often. Good video! Enjoyed watching you talk on this internet topic, and I hope to see more of you in the future
Some of us deal with extreme ups and downs. Resting is impossible. We look for balance by living during the night, by trying to eat right, exercise. But even things like sudden cool days or full moons or rainy days can upset that fragile balance inside of us, causing the depression or mania to explode.
The key is not to aim high when you are on a high, but to make easily achievable goals at tht time, and then there is. a better chance of sailing through the coming storm ♥🤍♥🤍♥
Thank you and i have been misinterpreting spirituality by doing such things you have said, and your words will compell me to change my ways, truly a meaningful peice of knowledge to have entered my life right now
We are afflicted by our hatred and enriched by our love. Mindfulness is the first step and then the treasure trove of the dharma is ours to explore ♥♥♥
Phew, good topic! My mind sometimes gets so captivated by spiritual topics that the mouth won’t restrain itself. So I try to check, “does my mind want to say this or does my heart want to say this?“ And typically it’s just the mind blathering. The heart is usually pretty calm and just smiles and listens and understands. My hope is to spend more time in my heart until my mind just shuts the hell up forever.
@@waykee3 Perhaps so. But these terms may mean different things to different people. I'm coming from a more Hindu-influenced usage of words like "mind" and "heart" where it might be said that the mind is the mental chatter and sense that create a false self, an ego. And the heart is the infinite stillness and peace of "Self" or the guru. So to me, the heart is preferable.
@@waykee3 I got in a little trouble before, using those terms. A friend interpreted my use of "heart" as meaning raw emotion and passion, whereas I was referring to this spacious, peaceful center of being. We thought were were talking about the same thing but we weren't
You earned a subscriber in me. I woke up, to the point of having constant synchronicity all day every day and knowing beyond all doubt that everything is One and there is no separation and feeling like I am in heaven. After years of this I went through something that caused me a great deal of pain and in my pain I lashed out and doing that hurt me more than anything. The shame of lashing out and the pain I was already in was like a veil over my consciousness. Although I knew Oneness, I no longer felt it like I used to. I could tell it was like I had been blinded. I then went through years of depression and pain to the point of wishing I would end. All while knowing none of it was an accident and I needed to experience this pain and this shame to understand how it clouds the mind and emotions both so that I may grasp these lessons personally but also so that I may help others going through pain and shame and empathize with them properly and have that compassion for others. I am still not all the way out of the hole it feels like I dug for myself but it does feel like I am close. This reminder was made perfectly for me. Thank you.
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I never expected to see "Buddha" and "shitposting" in the same sentence but here we are
Strange world we live in Dominyka! Thanks for sharing ♥
@@ultimatemeaning ❤😊
I was about to make some mewing/sigma of nepal memes of buddha
😂👍
The duality of man
how the hell am I supposed to see this title and just not click on it?
Sorry didn't mean to be a clickbait peddler! 😆🤣😆
for real
@@ultimatemeaning No it is a compliment, he means it is so bizarre that he just had to know what the video was about lol
@@ultimatemeaning bruh
No but for real.
What a title
i built this algorithm brick by brick
HAHAHAHA
most relatable thing ive read in a hot second.
faxx
The algorithm moves in mysterious ways! 😆🤣😆
MOLECULE BY MOLECULE
I clicked on this video fully believing it was going to be some kind of joke, or bit, but I was pleasantly surprised to see it was a genuine and insightful look into this topic. Thank you for this.
A little bit cheeky but no joke my friend I am quite serious with a small "s" ♥♥♥
I had no idea what to expect
I, too, am warmly surprised
My algorithm is unmatched
I guess TH-cam threw you a curveball to Tibetan Buddhism? 😆🤣😆
All praise the sample test!
LMAO
Blessed! ❤
we out here
legendary algorithm pull, s-tier algorithm pull, having this video in your algorithm speaks positively on you as a person
Hey Ronald thanks for the vote of confidence and for standing up for what you believe in! ♥♥♥
😮🤔
Non dual troll?
Yeah, I am happy, lucky to have a positive starting page with this video brought to me by algorithm.
Nah, it means I was nondual trolling so hard that the youtube algorithm caught me.
@@MrCmon113 oh no
"Shitposting for Buddha" is one of the funniest phrases I've seen in a long time, especially coupled with your very serious monk face
In person I am not such a serious monk ♥
And that's duality.
@@djamalyoutube230 the duality of le Trollface
@@ArtSio443 🤣🤣
@@ultimatemeaning Seriousness kills.
We making it out of samsara with this one
That would be nice, eh? ♥
hahah xD
lol
I'm literally enlightened after reading that title
Shitposting more often refers to a low-quality attention bait, not necessarily offensive. But I must admit, seeing a monk delving into the clash of the buddhism and modern internet language and culture is VERY entertaining.
I am here for entertainment purposes as well, laughing or crying! 😆🤣😆
Is samsara just one giant shit-post?
@@ultimatemeaning also the definitions you mentioned in another comment are quite different from the original meaning. especially when it comes to trolling. originally troll was a verb, referring to troll fishing, where a forum user would make a provocative post as bait, often a wild unbased claim, to see who would believe it. some were repeated. it was more like an inside joke amongst forum regulars and typically only new or gullible users would fall for it, and sometimes a regular might back up OP's post. it was at someone's expense, but it was more of a joke made in good fun, kind of like how employees like to mess with the new guy. it wasn't malicious like modern trolls which were associated with the troll creature, that just aim to be offensive and edgy
@@isaacburrows8405 life is a giant shitpost
@@isaacburrows8405yes
Buddha says: "Don't feed the trolls.".
😆🤣😆 Stop you're making my ribs hurt! 😆🤣😆
Seems like something he would say
Trolls need love to , feed them.
@@iamtheiamweareallonehow you can feed love to someone who doesn't know one. how to nullify their ego so that they could see only purity
@@Risen_Glory easily, I am like my father. Unconditional love.
The video title feels like a fever dream. Peak content, pure enlightenmentmaxxxing, totally Buddhapilled. Bless your soul
Thanks friend for your words of encouragement! ♥🤍♥🤍♥
Pilled, maxxing, and a Patrick Bateman profile picture. You're truly a product of shit posting 😂😂
lol
fr fr bruh
I am based and peacepilled
Came for the title, Stayed for the message.
I'm so glad you remained ♥♥♥
This reminds me of a meme I saw recently that felt like the lesson of a koan:
"Yes, I've finally rid myself of my ego and I'm finally better than everyone else!"
lmfao hilarious! and sooo true ♥♥♥
That phrase is such a funny contradiction, even though I'm not versed in Buddhism myself. Like, by bringing oneself to say "I got myself free from ego" is already mission failed, no?
In my completely layman understanding, if you think you can determine whenever you are unbound from your ego, you are still attaching your sense of self to the action of relinquishing the notion of self. Which means that you are still attached to ego
The problem is that we must either believe that it's possible for a thing to be "better" or else not believe in that possibility.
lmao i saw that meme too, its sums it up so perfectly
This has nothing to do with ur comments but i love how people in comments can either be the smartest amd most insigtful humans alive to the most stupidest beings on the planet 😁
I swear Buddhist monks have the most calming voices I've ever heard
🤍♥🤍
Ikr? They’re great
That's part of the job 😂
@bhante1345 nope, its the teas
good youtube right here
I'm so old that I remember when trolls only lived under bridges.
😆🤣😆 That's just what I thought! 😆🤣😆
Especially train bridges. Stay away from those.
Hey guys. I had one under my bed when I was a kid, but he was originally from under a bridge and went back when I learned everything he could teach me. Sometimes we text.
im so old i figth against ther :P
I'm not so old that I remember when trolls were their true mythological nature of Jötunns in caves
We have it boys. The award for "The most interesting TH-cam Video Title ever."
"You will not be punished for your anger; you will be punished by your anger." Pali Canon
(I previously believed it was Buddha)
Wow
Thank you for sharing 🙏
Nice quote friend, thanks for sharing!
@@darealdovahkiin3652 🤍♥🤍
@@ultimatemeaning fake quote
@@ultimatemeaning thank you. Your video was very interesting. I've watched trolling videos in the past as a Buddhist and I never stopped to think how unethical they are.
as a buddhist and avid shitposter, this video is very important to me
I bet you are one of the funny shitposters♥♥♥
It’s a confusing world we live in. One week ago I was an American atheist watching this recommended video and I was moved enough to listen to more, where I watched interviews with monks. Then I started listening to intro Buddhist podcasts all day at work for a few days, up to today when I contacted my local Vajrayana temple to try to connect with a teacher, volunteer and perhaps learn enough to take refuge. Exciting and scary times, I thank you for your part in it.
Thanks Colonel for sharing your story, and welcome to the path 🙏🙏🙏
You can still remain an American atheist through this journey. Buddhism doesn't negate your Americanism, nor does it compel you to believe in the existence of God with a capital G.
@@Baronnax very true you make a good point. It’s certainly been a turning point in life the past month. Truthfully I had been receptive to Buddhism because of that fact. I have always had a very difficult time conceptualizing a higher power. Unfortunately for me since I like in the state of Maine there aren’t any local teachers for me so I’ve been learning from books and attending Sunday group meditation at a small temple. I’m also hoping this winter to be able to afford to retreat to blue cliff monastery in New York.
@@ColonelCannabis all the best bro. Hope it all helps you on your journey.
Even though I'm no longer a Buddhist or religious I completely support your decision in my opinion it's all about finding a positive community where there's love and compassion and open-mindedness follow your love and passion 😎👍
Thank you so very much for this video! As someone who fairly recently discovered spriritual practice as a whole, and has found more peace & love in the last few years than all of my upbringing, seeing/hearing people spreading this message makes me very happy. I'm still very much a work in progress.
For me, shitposting is about elation in the absurd. I consider myself a shitposter but not a troll, because my goal is to bring people happiness, share in their joys and sorrows, make them feel heard and seen. It's kind of become a language of its own, and it's one I speak like second nature as someone who grew into adulthood with the internet. I really do my best to refrain from putting people down, especially in a socially charismatic way that can turn community against them. This video is an excellent reminder to be true to these ideals.
I like the funny absurd stuff TBH 😆🤣😆
Not all shitposting is intended to make people upset. Others "shitpost" nonsensical jokes to share laughter lol
Cope.
truth
Sorry Mark I am new to the term I was going by my own experience and the Dictionary definition: "the activity of posting deliberately provocative or off-topic comments on social media, typically in order to upset others or distract from the main conversation." ♥
@@ultimatemeaningcopesplaining right here
I kid
@@ForbiddenCatBelly Yo! CatBelly
Came for the title, came to the message. Much love. ❤
Yoooo it's roach dog jr
Pleased to meet you friend♥♥♥
@@ultimatemeaning real
This is the kind of trolling I'm talking about. It's subtle and funny and not hurtful. The dictionary definition of trolling is so skewed to the point it's just describing a bully. This comment is gold though, I appreciate you.
hey wait a second... is that the roach dogg jr?!?!?
The teacher has come down off the mountain and into the marketplace.
and doing a lot of shopping to make up for lost time 😆🤣😆
I can recall a time when teachers came from all walks of life.
@@ultimatemeaning 😂
@@ZenCarry They still do, if you can see them for what they are.
Plato nice
The waking up at 4am videos are just a different vibe. Thank you for the thought provoking start to the day.
Everything has a different vibe at 4am. In the Tibetan tradition it says the energy starts moving at 0330 so this is the best time to get going♥♥♥
@@ultimatemeaning the deeper I get into this stuff the earlier I wake up, without alarm clock :)
Looks at time.
Sees it is not long past 4am.
"How do they know?"
Decides it is time to get some more napping in
I was so confused and intrigued by the title I couldn’t help but click
About a minute in and I already love what you’re saying
Hi friend, pleased to meet you. While I am trying to get your attention the title isn't just click bait. Glad that resonates with you 🤍
We got monk shit posting before GTA 6
😆🤣😆
Why does TH-cam algorithm gotta call me out like this?
It’s hurt. Growing up in a dualist tradition tormented my mind from a very young age. When I found relief in non-duality, I felt anger towards my upbringing for never bringing me peace. I rationalize it by saying I’m attacking ignorance, but the reality is I’m only attacking myself. Thank you for the message.
yeah I know right the algorithm is very cheeky sometimes! ♥🤍💙
@@ultimatemeaningHi, you are probably getting overwhelmed with questions and posts and this may not be best place for discourse.
But in case you see this i wanted to ask.
I heard a guru say if a person is an asshole and becomes enlightened hes still an asshole. The initial enlightenment doesnt remove the karma or clear the personality of impurities but still makes the person self realized in nonduality.
Early in life i had a spontaneous awakening experience of the underlying self in everything and non dual separation to everything with a period of bliss, presence, peace, connection and compassion.
But it did not dissolve my karmas or clear all negativity from me after a period of time passes bliss stopped and entered into dark night of soul experience for a while so much karma and negativity came to surface and malevelent entities attached to it to provoke and stroke anger and negativity more to get back at people for injustices experienced...
According to advaita vedanta only after death does an enlightened one clear karmas. I realize there are higher stages of enlightenment filled with more bliss, love and peace permanently, filled with shakti energy as some say. I been initiated into shaktipat kundalininawakening recently and may continue down this path, but as for my initial awakening and experience of unity consciousness altho it did make me realize non duality in everything it did not clear all negativity and personality impurities
Oh come on if you grew up in a Eastern society you would have your own crap that was just a different story. Romanticizing non-duality is just being silly.
@@patrickbertlein4626 I’m not sure what romanticizing you think is being done. Non-dualism brought me peace where I previously did not know it. But it is not a pass for an easy life. It is not even a guarantee for a better life. It has given me peace. That is all that is undeniable.
I thought self realization is supposed to be permanent. If your brain has now convinced that you are not there then how could it still experience dark nights if it true knows that there is no one there. Or maybe it was just a phase not the actual non dual realization?
*Truely @@arete7884
This has enlightened me, I feel changed just by hearing your words, kind sir. I wish to not let my negativity get the best of me again. I feel so fulfilled. Thank you!
🙏🙏🙏 wonderful aspiration friend 🙏🙏🙏
Hahaha! This is great. I’m so glad to see persons that walk the path of dharma addressing contemporary social issues. Much love and respect to you.
Your mala looks like Tiger’s Eye. Am I correct? I see you engaging with your audience, it is refreshing and I can tell how sincere you are about the things that you care about. I will remember you, as I go forward. I will try to be my very best. I’m glad that I discovered your existence.
Hi IMI. I am very much trying to communicate with people like you in an attempt to clarify the spiritual path in a contemporary way that is accessible but not corrupted. Thanks for your vote of confidence. It helps 🙏🙏🙏
@@imikokodama3054 It is Bodhi Seed the best all round substance for a mala. That means it can be used for all different types of mantra practice like, wrathful, peaceful, magnetizing, etc. ...
@ultimatemeaning my brain is fried or I'd probably actually be a decent student. I occasionally slip into being a bit of a non duality troll.
Not often but I do occasionally say stuff that I do stand behind but I know sometimes I'm kinda being a dick.
I am so fried though. I ask God often to let me move on to whatever is next and I agree thst it is ok if that is hell.
I don't even know why I do that. It seems drastic to accept hell as opposed to just staying here.
I love it here, especially animals and birds and insects and plants as well as nature but my experiences w/ people I guess I'd why a lot of times I'd choose death & hell over this.
I feel broken beyond repair but I continue, 40 years feeling this way most of thst 40.
I don't mean to be a bummer, sorry about that.
I just don't understand how I feel sometimes & I don't have any friends or family to talk to.
Great post too. Mahalo
I had an ego death experience in January. It was very much an "under the Bodhi Tree" experience (you can thank my therapist for that phrase). I felt non-dualism. I didn't even know that's what it was until some time later. I just felt as though there was nothing between me and the world and that everything touches everything.
In the days that followed, things got tougher. I thought to myself, "I can't live in society anymore. I need to find a temple to live in far away from all of this pain and suffering and dysfunction around me." But I decided to stay in the world and live an embodied life. The months that followed were challenging. Even though I had experienced non-dualism so very clearly, I was living in a dualistic world and everyone around me was unsettled by me. Eventually they became quite upset with me. I experienced a lot of meanness and selfishness from people I believed cared about me. In response, I felt myself becoming bitter and angry at times -- mechanisms my brain was using to protect my newborn baby ego.
It took about six months, but I finally found some balance with living an embodied life in regular society. I also now very much understand how someone like Alan Watts could seem to understand so much about these concepts and yet also die from alcoholism. Living an embodied life amongst people is extremely challenging. If you live amongst those who are still staunchly dualistic in their manner and way of being -- and they far and away outnumber you -- then you must play on this chessboard in some measure. I still experience anger, fear, anxiety, interpersonal upset, get involved in egoic concerns -- things that had seemingly disappeared for a short while. But attempting to hold onto "pure" non-dualism while living in a dualistic world was a fool's errand. I realized this profound ego death experience was just another thing that I needed to let go of -- that if I held to it too tightly, it actually caused me more suffering. Since then, while I do experience negative emotions and have egoic concerns, they pass through me much faster. I have learned nothing is to be kept. To let joy and pleasure and happiness and pain and frustration and fear linger only as long as is required for me to learn from them and then to let them go. This is how I have learned to experience non-dualism while living in a dualistic world.
I hope this helps anyone who may be struggling to find balance. I could have slipped into spiritual bypass. Many do. But I had a good spiritual teacher in my therapist to guide me through this period of intense psychological rebirth.
Thanks for sharing your story friend ♥🤍♥🤍♥
It was under the sycamore tree, the sun stopped shining for me -Lady Saw 😉
thank you, i was really in need of that :)
As the old Zen koan goes:
- “What is the meaning of life?”
“Chopping wood, carrying water”
“Live neither in the entanglements of outer things,
nor in inner feelings of emptiness.
Be serene in the oneness of things and such
erroneous views will disappear by themselves.
When you try to stop activity by passivity
your very effort fills you with activity.
As long as you remain in one extreme or the other
you will never know Oneness”
3rd Chinese Zen patriarch
I really needed this ego check. It's all out of fear and self-judgement. Thank you, metta!
Thank you for sharing your inner feelings friend, that takes courage🙏🙏🙏
For the first time in my life I consider following the spiritual path... Thank you.
When I first clicked on this video, for some reason the audio on my phone was not loading and I thought this video was 7:51 min of this guy mouthing words with no sound. I thought I just got trolled by a Buddhist. HAHA
That's so funny. I might just do a video like that on purpose! 😆🤣😆
@@ultimatemeaningPLEASE
When I see a video like this pop up on my home page, I immediately wonder, “is this a serious video or a joke video?” And that should speak volumes about the state of online content.
I am not spiritual, so I cannot speak on that perspective of things, but I am very familiar with online culture and have some things that are noteworthy.
Firstly, shitposting is not necessarily negative. A shitpost is effectively content people make for the internet that is intentionally nonsensical, but nonsense isn’t explicitly malicious. In fact, many people find great joy in these nonsense posts (including myself occasionally). That does not mean there are no malicious shitposts, I’m just pointing out they are not inherently a negative thing. It’s more so just a new age form of artistic expression, and the intention of that art is decided by the artist, be it positive or negative.
Secondly, trolls are usually people who take pleasure from upsetting other people, but the act of trolling can also be a tool that people use to entertain each other. Compare it to teasing. I grew up in a family where my parents teased me and made fun of me, but in an endearing way, and now as an adult I am able to laugh at myself and not feel self conscious or worry about being teased. However, this is a social group type phenomenon, so if you are not in that social group where trolling is harmless, then it could hurt people, just as teasing people who did not experience teasing positively could hurt people. Long story short, while I would say most trolls are probably finding enjoyment in other people’s anger, it depends on both their intentions and the community in which they are trolling. It’s never wise to write off an entire group of people as being the same, especially when you are saying something negative about the group.
As for haters, I’m not sure there is any positivity there. The most I can say about haters is that the term is often used by insecure people as a coping mechanism for legitimate criticism. A genuine hater is someone who just hates someone unconditionally, so they are bad, but when people use that term I think more often than not, they have problems in themselves they are not willing to face, and the hater label is how they discredit people offering constructive criticism. Realistically, if you do not have some level of fame, it is unlikely for people to hate you unconditionally. If you are just a normal person, people who dislike you may have valid reasons, and you should self reflect and find out if you need to change. On the internet, their “legitimate reason” may be that you have a different opinion than them. It is obviously ridiculous to hate someone because their opinion differs, but that is the state of internet debate at this point. If I reply to someone’s comment in a comment section, and respectfully disagree with them, one of two things will happen. Everyone will say mean and awful things to me, sometimes personally attacking me, or people will agree with me and say mean and awful things to the person whom I was respectful towards. I do not allow what they say to bother me, but it is a very malicious way of communicating, and I suppose those people could be labeled as haters in the sense that they are spreading hate. When people usually use the term though, a hater is someone who almost obsessively hates a single individual. Someone who seeks out interactions with someone they hate, so that they can continue to spread that hate towards them.
I think people often forget, even with adults alive who are younger than the internet, the internet is still in its infancy. It has been wildly accessible for only 20ish years. Theoretically, if I remember correctly, it takes about 10,000 years for humans to fully adapt to their environment. For perspective, the oldest known mirror is 8,000 years old, and so we are not even fully adapted to seeing a clear reflection of ourselves, let alone adapted to any of the incredible technology that exists today. We are using this technology with a mind that is still adapted to primitive tools and environments. Technology will not stop either. We will never adapt, unless there is a technology ceiling, and I’m doubtful there is, or if there is, we will not reach it.
This was a good video and I thank you for sharing your perspective. I hope this comment gives you a broader perspective. I’m sure there is more internet culture and terminology you have yet to explore, and maybe when you explore them, you’ll be inclined to make another video!
Thanks friend for all you well considered thoughts, and for taking the time to share with us ♥♥♥
"I am not spiritual" - You are a spirit in a costume. You are not the body, you will give up your body (costume) soon and what you are was NEVER born and will never DIE. You simply pass from this 'earth school' to your next adventure. Good luck brother.
Wow dude, nice writing and thoughts. Very helpful for understanding it to the next level.
@andrewevenson2657 I disagree with your take on hater. I think there are people who use hater as the way you described. However hater usually means people who judge or criticize other people whenever they do something they don't agree with even when it isn't harmful. If you like rock music and people say you are weird for liking it then they are haters. If you like wearing pink and people judge you for it, than those people haters. If you like science and history and people judge you for it, they are haters. Basically whenever you try to be yourself, express yourself, or do something that makes you happy without harming yourself or others and people judge you for it, those people are haters. When rappers make their music, and have their own style and people critique them for expressing themselves, those people are haters. There are a lot of people on the internet that just like to critique other people for trying to be their authentic selves and being happy, and many people just try to spread negativity. That's why people say ignore the haters. Do what makes you happy. If you like to sing and people judge you for it, ignore them because they just want to hate. It has very little to do hating you unconditionally. I have never heard it used that way.
Wow, such a long but interesting comment, thanks a lot
I too am guilty of being a spiritual troll on several occasions. I recognized how my comments had the potential to cause suffering mere moments after posting. I felt that I had to correct people in their understanding. I realized how foolish and arrogant I had been. I still catch myself identifying with ego daily. I do not judge myself when it happens, instead I acknowledge it, understand why it happened, then let it go. Dropping the ego is truly a hero's journey.
😂 how dare we help other people, that would be egotistical. Not sure if buddists realize how silly and hypocritical they sound to everyone else when they say that but someone should enlighten them.
I don't think "dropping the ego" alltogether makes sense.
Acknowledge it as the tool that it is but do not identify with it.
The carpenter doesnt identify with his hammer, but dropped uncarefully it may cause harm :D (I dont really know if this makes any sense anywhere thats not my persepective, but i i kinda like that picture)
In general then we need to correct ourselves first, but having said that the dharma is all about recognising our faults and so teachers talk about the negative aspects of Samsara. In general if you are truly well motivated then things should work out all right ♥
@@5ur3nh0hn Another question is "Is there such a thing as an ego to be dropped" maybe its just provisional?
I realized I’m often looking for an argument (or “opportunity to correct someone” - gotta love euphemisms!) and then wonder why people are antagonistic and bossy towards me. 🤦🏻♀️
A lot of this felt like a sitcom sketch, I absolutely loved this guy 100%.
Came for the curse word stayed for the lesson!! Thank you!
Thank you Kristy and its a difficult call, because some will not appreciate my profanity, but I want to address some rather raw issues that are none the less directly related to the spiritual path 🙏🙏🙏
Legendary TH-cam video pull
New term for me "pull" I like it. It is like "attraction" ♥♥♥
I am a Buddhist and im gonna edge to dis tonight!💯💯🗣
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I came home, plugged my phone in and opened youtube, and the first thing I saw was this video. I have truly been blessed 🙏
I feel blessed too! pleased to meet you♥♥♥
Socrates would be called a troll today for telling egoists the truth. You are right that true trolls are people who go out of their way to cause problems, but it's been my experience that anyone who pokes the cognitive dissonance of ignorant people gets called a troll by the ignorant people. Very often the person being accused of being a troll is actually the more spiritually enlightened one acting in good faith, and the other person can't handle it. But you are right about what you say, too.
Thanks for that clarification, sadly I am not versed in the subtle differences between the various types of trolls, but here I am generalising those with malicious intent to cause trouble out of their own unhappiness.
It is also part of the Buddhist tradition to debate and use criticism to clarify understanding (something that requires skill and learning).
thanks for sharing!
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Honestly this is what is happening to me
It also doesnt help that im an autist...
My best friend jokingly calls me socrates when i burst the cognitive dissonance bubbles and get people angry at me... he just roars with laughter when it happens lol
@@Bleilock1 its a difficult call, because other's anger is a great harm to them. Thanks for sharing your story 🙏🙏🙏
@Bleilock1 this also raises the question: if the style of your questioning or criticism leads to that kind of reaction, what have you achieved? Could the same message not be worded in such a way that people do feel like they want to take your point seriously? (Not saying I'm not guilty myself, by the way 😅)
@@ultimatemeaning MAGA are unable to learn because learning requires us to disassemble the boxes of pretaught or learned behaviours. They get uncomfortable in this state because it goes against everything they are comfortable with.
This video was incredibly entertaining. The title was a great one, and your point was spot on about the purpose of our spiritual growth and enlightenment.
Well I do joke about a bit, but the message is sincere♥♥♥
Well, actually it's egotism, not materialism. There are some people (especially monks and priests) attached to poverty. They somehow think that material stuff is not spiritual. In the end, there is no difference between what the ego is attached to, money or poverty. All attachments have to go; even the holy ones.
But I like the ALIBABA finish. Splendid. I feel honored. 🙏
Yes you are correct. If you watch the video (this is just an intro) the statement is that the root of all Kleshas is ego clinging (AKA dualism) 🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning Nice. Wouldn't miss it even if someone offered me a $100 Alibaba gift card to skip it. 😘
Shearing the differences between belief,faith trust and absolute truth is a length. Some thing is worthy of hatred, overcoming being ultristic. Everyday be good, Unless troll has too many thieves. Interlectual ones.
When the idea is eaten, crossing the bridge between truth and trust it can have 1,000 fold effect on the holder of innocence. Turtles looking for Splinter.
That’s a good insight! Attachment to wealth, attachment to poverty are both attachment to money. Attachment to sex and attachment to celibacy are both attachment too, then. Attachment to relationships and attachment to solitude, both anre attachment. Really valuable insight!
Seems to me the only logical thing is to accept the unfolding of one’s life with equanimity. Accept the changes in wealth, changes in health, changes in status, changes in relationship, etc. the best we can.
@@jonmustang Yes, until we train ourselves to be peaceful there will be things in our reality that point us to where we have to work on ourselves. That's why it's valuable to have an experience of the worldly life; here we can measure how holy we are. It's easy to fool oneself in the monastery. That's why there's a joke, when you think you've got enlightened go visit your family. 🤣
I quite like this video because it is a break from the usual Internet shenanigans and negativity while still involving and referring to the Internet. It is like a sight of what could be. I am still going to use the Internet extensively. I am not going to become a monk nor go into retreat, but I still like some of the ideas of Buddhism. So just plain seeing it in a more relatable context is surprisingly making me feel inspired.
I really appreciate your direct and clear speech. And thanks for the opportunity to present in comments my two principles of human delusion:
1. I want what I want and I want it now !
2. If you would only change, I could be happy.
If you would only change, I could be happy.
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😆🤣😆 1. very poignant 2. even more poignant! 😆🤣😆
when you said "hater" and "shitposter" it came from such a deep level, I understood you have much more cleansing to do
Oh yeah I have loads of work to do for sure♥♥♥
In my darkest years (all of my 20s) I said terrible things to people. I was a rather hateful person, but only because I didn't know how to love. It was all an expression of misery, and of course such expression makes the continuation of misery inevitable.
The hardest thing is to love yourself and that way begin to experience compasion for others. imho you do not have to these beings, but you can experience compassion and equanumity as a result of loving yourself. Much love. ❤
This is a wisdom you gained by suffering. Propagating suffering is not inevitable, wisdom, mindfulnes are the cure. Persevere. 🙏
like.
That you are aware of this is a sign that you are making spiritual progress friend❤
being in the 20s sucks ass
That opening, this was the fastest like/subscribe of my life.
WoW! I am honoured friend 🙏🙏🙏
The fact that you’re taking the time out of your day to respond to so many comments is really sweet. I appreciate you, man!
I am sad I can no longer get to everyone's comments anymore- the channel is just growing too fast- But I am also glad that you didn't get left out♥♥♥
@@ultimatemeaning It’s the thought that matters the most in this case. It’s comforting to know that you’re really engaged with your followers and care about their thoughts!
We're living in times where people will kick you when you're down instead of helping you up.
But the tide is changing i t seems. There are more people thinking about raising others up than beating them down
@@ultimatemeaningNo, I’m being real. Not trolling, you have been away for 2 years. You will be disappointed constantly. Wickedness we can’t imagine. Accept it or else you will become a doomer. The frog is the frog and the scorpion is a scrooion 🙏
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@@horse433read Ashurbanipal’s boasts. You will have a new appreciation of how nice we are to each other now
@@badart3204 crazy stuff😢 but I stand by my comment. The tide is not going to change.
This will not end, the state our grandkids will grow up in will be wicked evil place.
A spiritual battle, the tele-robo-doc gets me to smother myself in the nursing home.
@@badart3204 I will add it to my list thank you. I’m starting to read books. They actually are changing how I think. I have to read slow, school taught me how to skim read. I have a list of books and things to read. Including yours it’s 7. It’s gonna take awhile
I clicked this video because the title made me laugh, but you've given me some food for thought. I've subscribed and I look forward to hearing more of your philosophy.
Thanks friend, as much food for thought that you can digest, that much I shall cook up♥♥♥
This man knows what he’s talking about and he has a spiritual practice
Thank you for this. I'm grateful i was shown this tonight before bed, it'll give me guidance going forward in these rough times.
I really hope you sail through the hard times smoothly and progress onto many good times♥♥♥
I’m not so sure about engaging in “non-dual” trolling, but I realize that I sometimes allow myself to be pulled into acting upon my desire to trigger others by confronting their beliefs that seem ridiculous to me. Fortunately it doesn’t happen often, but when it does I can feel the emotions becoming stronger and I know that what I am doing isn’t actually helping anyone.
I trust that I am getting further away from that part of me and that the link will break!
What a great topic!🙏🏼
This is why we are here, no? Iron sharpens iron and kudos on your creativity. I invite the triggers as they are great teachers.
You are light years ahead of 99% of society.
@@CornFedZ06 Wow! Thank you so much for that comment! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@AmericanValues1776 So true, yes? They are like approaching mirrors 🪞
It could be interesting to observe this mindfully to speed up this proces and see where this desire originates. The insight can promote emotional freedom. 🙏
Proverbs 15:1 (NIV): "A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger." Dhammapada 223: "Overcome anger by non-anger; overcome evil by good. Overcome the miser by giving; overcome the liar by truth." 2 quotes I reccomend every service industry worker keep in mind when dealing with customer complaints.
Thanks for sharing the proverb 🤍♥🤍
@@ultimatemeaning I honestly feel that holy write should be expanded. Take the best of all the holy writs. Throw out the rest.
@@lordvoldamort4606 That's literally what has been done for every well known holy book throughout history, and you see what that has gotten humanity. Just look at all the texts of the Mahabharata and the taboos regarding caste and sexuality. See how the division took root and grew between Islam and Judaism when the old testament was not included in the Quran. Both cultures call Abraham their ancestor, yet today they kill, kidnap, and torture each other without cessation. Pay a visit to the Vatican archives and see the texts not included in the Bible (no, don't bother, it's not allowed for lay people to read the texts in the basement). Take an examination of the First Council of Nicaea, and the punishments and suffering doled out to those who thought differently of Christ's words. It was the desire of holiness and preferential interpretation that led directly to inquisitions, executions, and torture. How could you or any group of people look through all holy writings from all authors and precisely determine which odes to which deities for which subjects should be considered best? How would you throw the ones you don't like away? What would you do to compensate for linguistic drift and new terms in all languages?
Clicked for the title, but stayed for the talk , as it was a good alignment to remember to try and go more towards positivity then negativity, thank you 🙏
There isn't a day that goes by without me wishing I were a better person. Free from anger, judgement and impatience. I seem stuck between being authentic and acknowledging my reactions to the world, and feeling phoney pretending to be otherwise. I wish my heart were light and free from attachments and old habits totally surrendered to the source of my being.
The interesting thing is "you are a better person" you just haven't realised it yet 🤍♥🤍
A friend sent this to me and we had a good laugh at the time but I decided to give it a watch now. Genuinely interesting, thank you for your unique perspective on something I typically never really thought about until now.
Funny how the algorithm can bring people together♥♥♥ MAkes me wonder
We’re making it out of /x/ with this one!
Never ‼️‼️‼️
NEVER
TAKING
THE MEDS!
Not sure what that means but I feel you are sincere ♥♥♥
@@ultimatemeaning its a..very unhappy place in the depths of internet forums..matched by the dark web
As an atheist from a Christian country, this video got me genuinely interested in Buddhism. Now i want to learn about Buddhism and compare it to with my current ideologies, beliefs, values and philosophies and try to explain it with them to myself and maybe even take some from Buddhism. To me it seems like they have some similarities. For a long time i had pretty different ones than i have now and i didn't think about them as much as now and my wellbeing wasn't good. Now that my philosophy has changed, i have a different look on what i know about Buddhism. This video reminded me about Buddhism and got me thinking about what if my ideology has something in common with Buddhism. Thank you a lot!
This wish to investigate the nature of phenomena for oneself is key to the Buddhist approach. I hope your quest bring clarity and bears fruit swiftly 🙏🙏🙏
This was the fastest subscribe I've hit based on a random recommendation. Your message is reaching people! Thank you for creating content
Thank you friend that make the effort worthwhile 🙏🙏🙏
very emotionally challenging day today for me, this lifted my spirits.
thank you, may we all diamond body together.
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Any time I see so called spiritual teachers who are cursing, harsh, vindictive, gossiping and so on, I just think, "what on earth are THEY doing "teaching" anything?" That's not someone to aspire to be. That's not a good example. You don't even need a book or another person to tell you that's not right. You know in your heart it isn't.
You are so right my friend vindictive behaviour is a sing of lack of spiritual progress, but having said that most spiritual teachers these days are just ordinary people with ordinary faults. But of course they should do their best not to display animosity. Thank you for sharing 🙏
I'm no guru but a famous guy once said "let he who had not sinned cast the first stone".
@@1000REMBOY Not sure if that's the proper context for this. I am not trying to teach. I don't claim to be a teacher. I am saying that you need to be pure yourself to teach about purity.
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This quote from bible is not about people who try to teach.
It is about people who try to judge.
@@nc956 You say that as if you are capable of non-judgement. News flash, nobody is. Your thoughts are not neutral, and you and every living thing judges, and indeed must judge. That verse is more about checking your own nature before checking the nature of others.
I am a newcomer to Buddhism. And slowly but surely it is transforming my understanding of myself and others. I do not have great knowledge of scriptures, but I know kindness and compassion that I can perceive in his teaching. Thank you for your message of kindness. May you be well, happy and peaceful.
You have such a relaxing voice that is a real pleasure to listen to.
I think I will record some fairy tales or bedtime stories and post them on TH-cam🤔
I’m guilty, I cannot lie.
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Well actually - its not you shitposting, but all of us.
or even better, its just me
@@sheazoom I was looking for that easy chair.
Guilty about what
Shitposting can be a very spiritually fulfilling activity, at the core of it is just a want of getting a laugh out of people (kinda fits into what you said about altruism) tho theres def a fair few bad apples who also label their stuff as shitposting
I shitpost because others shitposting is what stopped me from feeling like shit and hopefully I can do the same
I think I am referring to the angry and bitter ones 🤍♥🤍
I think he’s referring to rage bait
@@ultimatemeaning anger and bitterness is hardly shitposting in the original sense of the word.
The original use of the word came from a bunch of mischief-makers on 4chan posting "low quality" nonsense posts on the (then limited) boards. The original users, who were very obsessive and heavily immersed in discussing only what they believed mattered and staying strictly on topic, were furious. Thus it became a sort of pseudo-war with the Originals trying to drown out the shitposts with "quality" threads while the shitposters intensified their "signal jamming."
Eventually, the Shitposters won, and the Originals conceded that yes, shitposting was actually pretty funny and yes, ultimately everything that exists is related to everything else, so being "off topic" on a recreational forum that adheres to Freedom of Speech principles is a nonsensical proposition in the first place. As a result, the 4chan of digital legend was born, and went on to troll and shitpost, both online and irl, to great effect, effectively dabbing on the normies.
However, as a result of modern Progressive ideology demonizing anything that rebels against its authority, "shitposting" became demonized and seen as a "harmful" activity. As a result some genuinely bitter and wrathful ones just went around posting their actual opinions and calling it shitposting (but any true shitposter can recognize the sincerity in their post in a minute, as its a different spirit behind it) when in fact real shitposting was and still is being the embodiment of the "Jester god" common to many mythologies: you're causing trouble, stirring up a bit of strife, and getting up to mischief, but in the end you're really just expanding people's horizons and opening them up to new thoughts, ideas, and ways of seeing the world through the perfect combination of humor and suffering.
Humor is the cake, the suffering is the frosting.
As an aside, we have archaeological evidence of shitposters in the Roman Empire. It was apparently somewhat common behaviour to scrawl meaningless posts and inside jokes onto hidden parts of stone walls back then, exactly the ancient equivalent of modern shitposting, especially in its early days. Shitposters build empires because they're bored, and shitpost to inspire others to higher levels of understanding.
this video impacted me positively even though i clicked this with the lowest expectations. its beautiful that i clicked on this video, expecting it to be a joke or shitpost because of the absurdity of the title, and yet this video criticises that very aspect of the internet. thank you.
As much as I'd like to love and be compassionate to people. I'm going to click this next video on my recommended tab which is about moving wasp nests anywhere, and we'll see how the rest of my day goes.
Funny I have a lot of experience in moving live bees nests. Also getting rid of venemous snakes
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this video caught me at the perfect time. thank you for the reminder. peace and love.
Peace and love friend ☮♥
In my spiritual endeavors I’ve learned that I am a lot more egotistical than I thought I was
How wonderful, you are obviously making great progress! 🙏
You have to have some sense of ego or you would not willfully live, the human condition is parasitic. Any belief that attempts to make you doubt reality isn't a good belief to have or spread.
That’s great! That means you’re learning something about yourself and being honest about it. That’s the way forward, my friend. You’re expressing the opposite of a “spiritual troll” in that sense. Try to notice if your experience is constant or if it is fluctuating? Remember, it is neither good nor bad. Just the way it is right now! Good luck in your practice. 🙏🙏🙏
Hehehe that probably goes for every single seeker! IF they get far enough along the Path, that is.
Such musings are themselves inherently egotistical
As a spiritual non-dual troll myself, I thank thee for this video. Blessings. 🙌🙌
May all beings everywhere be happy and free
Thank you for your wonderful aspiration prayer friend♥♥♥
one must shitpost to achive true enlightening
-Buddha
neither shitposting, nor not shitposting, nor neither shitposting and not shitposting that is the middle way 😆🤣😆
i am not Buddhist, but i married a Buddhist. when i got this video in my algorithm, i genuinely thought for a second that somehow, i was getting his recommendations, until i saw "Shitposting for Buddha" and could not stop my own curiosity from leading me here. the resulting education you've given me is valuable beyond any words i can think of now. it's given me a shard of positivity and light when my sociology classes have left me drained and depressed looking at numbers suggesting doom through negativity that's infected even institutions of society itself.
we are on different paths, but i absolutely admire and appreciate the steps you take on yours, and i'm grateful i had the chance to watch and learn to adjust my own gait. 💕
I wonder what you Buddhist partner thinks of the title 😆🤣😆
@@ultimatemeaning he saw it over my shoulder as i was checking this comment now and got a pretty good laugh out of it! immediately wanted to know if this was a lesson or a review of Buddhist memes. i told him it was the former, but we'd both enjoy the latter if you ever came around to that!
Thank you! I needed this information today and it is helping me navigate the path
The most common variety of spiritual trolls I run across are “nondual police”. Jeff Foster has a great video that portrays the difficulties of trying to have a conversation with one. It’s called: The Advaita Trap 1: Absolute and Relative Confusion - The Cartoon
That's hilarious, thanks for sharing 🙏
Be careful calling people challenging social norms and society to grow as a "spiritual troll". Religous wars bring about questions, such as Christopher Hitchens who wrote books and had college debates. All these new terms that are not real words or terms only feed the leftist paradigm that masquerades as liberalists when they are really just communists. If someone identifies as spiritual who is anyone to tell them any different? Lets not be hypocrites. Anyone can just as easily call anyone else a spiritual troll or a misled individual based on them simply being sensitive. In reality the Pope himself with all his ties to corruption can be called a spiritual troll and yet he has millions of followers. Do You not see that? Or maybe you are not learned enough or maybe you are too sensitive or maybe or maybe or maybe not open minded enough or maybe or maybe _--... you see? What upsets you is just your teacher --_ ... hmmm rhetorical. Let me make this clearer, i am trying to make you think, i am not a "troll". Thank you💯
Hopefully people domt start book burning and going against 1st amendment because of new statements and made up terms and labels such as "spiritual troll" -_-
@@ISHALLPREVAIL_ That would be a very dualistic thing to do 🙃
Great video, though as some say not all shitposting is meant to cause negative feelings. For example, please let me share a story with you
A serious young man found the conflicts of mid 20th Century America
confusing. He went to many people seeking a way of resolving within himself
the discords that troubled him, but he remained troubled.
One night in a
coffee house, a self-ordained Zen Master said to him, "go to the dilapidated
mansion you will find at this address which I have written down for you. Do
not speak to those who live there; you must remain silent until the moon
rises tomorrow night. Go to the large room on the right of the main
hallway, sit in the lotus position on top of the rubble in the northeast
corner, face the corner, and meditate."
He did just as the Zen Master
instructed. His meditation was frequently interrupted by worries. He
worried whether or not the rest of the plumbing fixtures would fall from the
second floor bathroom to join the pipes and other trash he was sitting on.
He worried how would he know when the moon rose on the next night. He
worried about what the people who walked through the room said about him.
His worrying and meditation were disturbed when, as if in a test of his
faith, ordure fell from the second floor onto him. At that time two people
walked into the room. The first asked the second who the man was sitting
there was. The second replied "Some say he is a holy man. Others say he is
a shithead."
Hearing this, the man was enlightened.
thank you for sharing this beautiful story friend ♥🤍♥🤍♥
Ok there's no way this just popped up my algorithm.. I feel like my life is a sitcom for the gods
lmfao "sitcom for the gods!😆🤣😆 I might steal that title !
@@ultimatemeaning feel free, friend. 💕
Well said. I try very hard to follow a similar path in my own way. Compassion is never wasted, even if it is not accepted. And sometimes all we can do is be good examples to others.
You are so right friend Compassion is the key point ♥♥♥
This message was not at all what I thought it was going to be from the title but it turned out a lot better than what I was assuming. I really thought you were going to teach how to properly shitpost for Buddha 😂😅
No fear I’m not actually interested in shitposting or causing trouble for others 😊 and it’s my sincere wish for your liberation from Samara 🙏
your first mistake was thinking
I'm glad it wasn't worse than you thought Cody! 😆🤣😆
@@gtVel Yes of course the best practitioners all have had frontal lobotomies! 😆🤣😆
@@ultimatemeaning You jest, but there is a lot of truth in that.. Some great zen-masters of the past were reported to be childlike idiots. It is probably that they weren´t stuck in that state and possibly how Zen accomodated some actual idiots. I think the option of a temporary lobotomy is why people are attracted to narcotics and drugs.
It is empowering to do the same through meditation in a non-harmful way. It is touching and freeing to do it together. Like drinking together, but without many of the negative consequences.
Does a dog have buddha nature? MU!
@@ultimatemeaning that was funny.
"Shitposting for Buddha" not a phrase I expected to hear in this life, but now that you say it, you've inspired me.
Amituofo ^^
Amitofu🙏🙏🙏
I get them on my other channel all the time. "Who is meditating????? Dear?" My answer - "I am. I do not exploit the wisdom of nonduality to absolve myself of responsibility." They never come back :)
I like your answer! Yes, we must take personal responsibility
Love this response
Isn't it better to answer that: No one is meditating?
@@Neo1234567890111 No, not in my case, as I have not attained liberation, nor have I transcended relative reality.
Taking responsibility is a human thing. But in essence, if this social structure disintegrates, isn't it that i am isn't actually I am, ie not my ego?
"Nothing ever happens"
-Chuddha
your words are truth brother,i'll admit to find the antidote for the mental poison of negativity seems just out of reach at times when i know it's right there,that's alright,i fall down,i get up.
🤍♥🤍Thanks for sharing🤍♥🤍
Trolling has its purposes. Narratives should be challenged.
Yeah I wasn't really questioning that aspect of it, but the only people I've encountered are just venting their anger and not really trying to do anything positive
Nothing has purpose, there is only Shuniata and process
@@ultimatemeaningcan’t be that good of a Monk if online trolls are getting to you 😂
Every good story needs an antagonist to kickstart it.
@@marksmandrilla7057 Being able to recognise that someone is trying to upset you, and that someone actually managing to get to you, are two different things.
Thanks for sharing. I think some people jump into the non dual concepts without first humbling and working on themselves because they heard about it in an old lecture from some ex hippies and like to police others online, and spiritual bypass the work it takes to get to that realization. I see non dual as an ultimate goal when you purify your negative aspects to see yourself and the world clearly, but so many online try and sell themselves as something they are not for influence or popularity. Counter intuitively the best thing is not engage the trolls unless they are actually trying to learn.
Though Sometimes what can be considered a troll to some could be like a Buddha pointing out others mistakes, but that is about context/perspective such as trying to open up the minds of dogmatic religious people by explaining the deeper universal meaning of a teaching. To them it would seem like a troll spreading dangerous heresy.
Thank you for sharing you well considered insights Kyle! 🙏🙏🙏
What is a non-dual concept? Every concept is inherently dual.
This is an insightful video, which I enjoyed, but when I first saw the title I imagined something along the lines of you saying "Dualism is a flawed concept, Everything is impermanent, and attachment is the cause of most of your suffering, deal with it" then it freezeframes with the "Forgot about Dre" beat playing and those emoji sunglasses and the blunt superimposed on your face.
😆🤣😆 Hilarious image in my head 😎😎😎
Im no holy man, but ive done some shitposting in my day. I love the Buddha's teachings and i consider myself generally compassionate.
i ultimately agree with what you are saying but theres some social nuance to these more modern terms that i worry you are missing.
Where trolling typically denotes acting on bad faith, "being a hater" is usually not something someone calls themselves but is a label put on them for being critical of something deemed good by a group or the majority in some sense. So "being a hater" isn't explicitly bad, as one might call the Buddah the ultimate hater for rejecting all that he did.
Shitposting is a totally different, as the goal is usually comedy, and rarely to actually make anyone feel bad. the term is used differently by different groups on the internet, but generally it refers to sharing things whimsically or without proper context.
Personally i think shitposting is the more arcane of the 3, as it could be as simple as sharing ones feeling or it could be as abstract as someone commenting buddhist quotes beneath a video about something completely unrelated, like on a video about economics or something...
Either way great video! I liked and subscribed! 🙏 hope you share more wisdom soon.
honestly thats what i thought this video was going to be about. like being an anti guru or something. it goes both ways tho for the person shitposting and revieving it. if either person gets angry its their ego so really its an opportunity to realize your ego happening on both sides
Yeah you'll have to forgive my ignorance this culture is all new to me ❤
@@ultimatemeaning no need to apologize, its the average person at fault (myself included) for being chronically online 😅 A 12 year retreat is real commitment! I have the utmost respect for what you are doing.
I used to meditate everyday, thinking of the 3 jewels, 4 noble truths, and the noble eightfold path, but 10 years have passed and i have fallen back into average materialism and attachment. I still hold dear the essence, but i do not feel the peace or focus i once had. Do you have any advice for someone like me?
@@markop.1994you are true. Remember that you can always take the time to reflect in action the no self in when what and how you interact with material. As I read your comment I feel like you had been reading all the fundamental foundational in meditation. Step more into the physical practice of the love of the human experience.
@@ultimatemeaning peace and blessings. I have a question. How would you compare the difference in man’s perception of suffering from when you stepped away and now that you have been reintroduced to daily interactions with man now.
Some at my monastery struggled for a little with nonbinary and their pronouns but in just a week with many reflections everyone sees them for who they are which is really sweet.
That's the way to be. 🙏🙏🙏
You talk about not having achieved genuine compassion, but I see in your face a deep serenity that I don't see very often.
Good video! Enjoyed watching you talk on this internet topic, and I hope to see more of you in the future
Thanks for the high praise friend although I am not sure I am worthy ♥♥♥
You're a wise man, with a tone that relaxes the listener. Thank you.
shitposting is not necessarily a negative thing, it can just refer to posting low quality memes that still provide entertainment to everyone involved
You must excuse my ignorance on the matter, I am not really clued up on the subtleties 🙏🙏🙏
ngl, I read the title like 5x just to make sure I was not going insane or dyslexic
lmbao 🤣😆🤣
Some of us deal with extreme ups and downs. Resting is impossible. We look for balance by living during the night, by trying to eat right, exercise. But even things like sudden cool days or full moons or rainy days can upset that fragile balance inside of us, causing the depression or mania to explode.
The key is not to aim high when you are on a high, but to make easily achievable goals at tht time, and then there is. a better chance of sailing through the coming storm ♥🤍♥🤍♥
Thank you and i have been misinterpreting spirituality by doing such things you have said, and your words will compell me to change my ways, truly a meaningful peice of knowledge to have entered my life right now
We are afflicted by our hatred and enriched by our love. Mindfulness is the first step and then the treasure trove of the dharma is ours to explore ♥♥♥
You are such a presence, thank you! 🙏😊🍀
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This is a nice video. I am an ordinary person with worldly issues. I do my best to stay out of trouble. Thank you for the vidoes
That's a great approach friend ♥🤍💙
@@ultimatemeaning isnt non duality philosophy also in hinduism
Phew, good topic! My mind sometimes gets so captivated by spiritual topics that the mouth won’t restrain itself. So I try to check, “does my mind want to say this or does my heart want to say this?“ And typically it’s just the mind blathering. The heart is usually pretty calm and just smiles and listens and understands. My hope is to spend more time in my heart until my mind just shuts the hell up forever.
Interesting. I’m not sure if we should act base off the heart or mind then.
@@waykee3 Perhaps so. But these terms may mean different things to different people. I'm coming from a more Hindu-influenced usage of words like "mind" and "heart" where it might be said that the mind is the mental chatter and sense that create a false self, an ego. And the heart is the infinite stillness and peace of "Self" or the guru. So to me, the heart is preferable.
@@waykee3 I got in a little trouble before, using those terms. A friend interpreted my use of "heart" as meaning raw emotion and passion, whereas I was referring to this spacious, peaceful center of being. We thought were were talking about the same thing but we weren't
🤍♥🤍 Sorry for the delay the comments have been going crazy! 🤍♥🤍
@@ultimatemeaning 🙏
You earned a subscriber in me. I woke up, to the point of having constant synchronicity all day every day and knowing beyond all doubt that everything is One and there is no separation and feeling like I am in heaven. After years of this I went through something that caused me a great deal of pain and in my pain I lashed out and doing that hurt me more than anything. The shame of lashing out and the pain I was already in was like a veil over my consciousness. Although I knew Oneness, I no longer felt it like I used to. I could tell it was like I had been blinded. I then went through years of depression and pain to the point of wishing I would end. All while knowing none of it was an accident and I needed to experience this pain and this shame to understand how it clouds the mind and emotions both so that I may grasp these lessons personally but also so that I may help others going through pain and shame and empathize with them properly and have that compassion for others. I am still not all the way out of the hole it feels like I dug for myself but it does feel like I am close. This reminder was made perfectly for me. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing your story and also for your support ♥♥♥