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Hi Chris can you do a video at Hanger 10 and particular an interview with Klaus Plasa in my view one of the best display pilots in the world i love seeing him flying the 190 ansd 109 it would be a show stopper for you fans ..best regars
I agree. Might not look as refined as the later models but it's got that distinctive look from something coming out of the 1930s while still being extremely modern for the time.
@Dalle Smalhals Agreed the Emil does look good and very distinctive, easy to Tell apart from the Hurris and Spits, but the Friedrich looks better. Just has the better flowing lines......and imho the better weapons arrangement. But, Robert I can understand If you prefer the Emil....... though I probably couldn't say the same If you'd said the same about the G-6.....😳😉
The 109 came from before the war, and fought until the end. Though there were innumerable changes, the basic air-frame was a good one and was effective throughout the entire conflict, which is rare in a war where big changes in things happened quickly. From bi-planes to jets in 6 years. the 109 was always there.
That pistol like grip, the "Knuppelgriff 12A" usually has 2 buttons: that top one, the big one, is only for the prop hub, wing monted cannons & external gun pods(the later variants of the BF 109) on the BF 109, it will be wired/connected as well. the second one is just infront of that grip, just like traditional pistol grips, it has a smaller button only for the machine guns on the engine cowling. The early models of the BF 109 had only one button, and that's only in the front of the grip, mainly because the early models had only machine guns(2 or 4). Also the later variants of the BF 109 will have an external fuel tank, I just don't know if that external fuel tank can be ejected or not.
I have seen a few of them over the years. I remember some years ago when I took my family on holiday I drove up to a junction and as I waited for the traffic to clear about fifteen to twenty different types of bubble car went passed. One of those rare occasions when you don't mind waiting for the traffic to clear.
Yes I remember seeing both the Messerschmitt and the Heinkel cars in back in the 1950's. The Messerschmitt had the driver in the front seat, and passenger in the rear seat, which what to me (back then) looked like an actual fighter cockpit hood. The Heinkel had the front door opening bubble car design. I thought the Messerschmitt was the best looking....:)
Very informative. One of the best I've come across. I thought you would mention more about the upside down engine ( inverted) that I always thought was interesting.
Actually, that airframe is kind of a Frankenstein. AFAIK, It's an E-1 fuselage, but when they went to gift it back to Germany they probably thought it would be nicer having cannons, so wings are from other aircraft featuring E-3 traits, plus of course all the maintenance and changes from about 20 years of service. Pretty interesting early cockpit without back armour plate, but featuring KG12 control stick instead of older spade ones seen in Swiss remaining examples. That tells it was actually a German Luftwaffe aircraft (so Condor Legion was Luftwaffe, not "volunteers"…) instead of an export variant like Swiss ones. Thanks for the walkaround
Was following along in the cockpit in war thunder while climbing. Learning about the cockpit somehow increased my affinity to the plane so thanks for that!
One of the aircraft was thrown overboard before Bismarck's final battle. Holes were punched in the floats so it would sink and not give Bismarck's trail away to the Royal Navy. Not sure on the others but Bismarck had hangars for four Arados, plus space for two more on the athwartships catapult.
Wonderful! Absolutely wonderful. You are an excellent commentator. I made a comment on Military History Visualized, politely suggesting he work on his commentary/ accent thickness and got grilled for it. This is what I was talking about, I could listen to this all day. Great job.
Once saw an Emil at an airshow. Thing might seem small compared to, say, a P-51 or a Hurricane, but it's not a small plane either. (Granted, I'm used to sailplanes so my perspective may be skewed)
Jim H.: You are correct. It *is* a small plane. The key design principle behind the 109's development was to fit the most powerful engine available to the smallest possible airframe. Later models were larger but only to accomodate larger engines.
Yet another excellent video I have been looking forward to. Nothing as enjoyable as Lunchtime with a Inside the Cockpit with MAH.😁 The Emil has a rugged and not quite a refined look like those of the F model. But underneath that rough look lies the potential this plane had and used to great effect. Where Germany went, the 109 went too. Always leaving its mark. Great video as always Bis.
Amazing how much technology was available at the time. Before we could only see black and white pictures of these marvelous machines in History books, now we can clearly see how complex and advanced technologically they were.
Love the contrast between the planes of the various nations. Our planes (U.S.) were large and very powerful (P47 for example), but the 109 was very small, sleek, and efficient. Not to mention beautiful. An amazing aircraft, and my favorite of the war.
Full Marks Chris for a a highly interesting and informative comprehensive 'walk around' of the BF 109. All of your videos get full marks from me as they possess the same level of interesting and relevant facts together with the historical context and relevant specifics of the aircraft model of the time. Your series is definitely unique and in my book 'the go to channel' on you tube. Well done.
"Very few survived" might have something to do with the allied policy of placing extreme focus on "systematic dismantling" which resulted in near extinction and made Me-109 a rare species today.
True. I live about a kilometer from a former military airport in Norway, and the British blew up dozens of Bf109s and Fw190s here right after the war. The destroyed aircraft were then bulldozed into a landfill.
on the BF 109 Emil, the French managed to put their hands on one and tested it the plane they had had alimentation issues above 6000m, the plane working perfectly up to that altitude, they decided to ignore all testing results above 6000m as to not get a false results due to a defective unit (it's not like they could call BF or Daimler for spare parts) comparison with the D.520 (plane coming from one of the 3 first production models) RESULTS performances: a) low altitude speed (600m): both planes speed were sensibly close, test were done with radiator flaps open, the ME 109 could get a slight speed advantage (20-30 kph) by closing the radiators b) climbing to 5.5 km advantage to the ME 109, notably due to the superior cooling characteristics, as the D.520 had to reduce gas twice due to rising water temperature at 3000m and 4500m the BF 109 was able to reach 5000m in 6'20" c) level speed at 5.500m comparable with a slight advantage to the Messerschmitt combat manoeuvres: a) surprised Messerschmitt: 1) disengagement by left hand climbing spiral: the D.520 could fire for a couple seconds, but the Messerschmitt quickly disengaged taking advantage of it's superiority in ascensional speed 2) disengagement by starting a turn fight: the Messerschmitt disengaged slowly 3) disengagement by diving: speed attained by the 109: 700kph on the speedo, the 520 follow it (note that the German anemometers are more generous than the French). at the end of each important dive, a repeated incident occurred on the D.520, the landing gear opened in the resource without the possibility to retract it, an incident also happened to the micro pump, causing the flaps to stop working b) surprised D.520 1) disengagement by right hand climbing spiral: advantage to the Messerschmitt which easily conserve it's aim 2) disengagement by reducing throttle and skidding(?): if this manoeuvre is correctly applied when the Messerschmitt is about to open fire, it is certainly very effective and this is regardless of the target plane, the 109 is carried by it's speed due to it's dive and is unable to stop the disengagement. this can take it far enough that the D.520 is able to regain the advantage 3) disengagement by diving: the Messerschmitt follows the D.520 along the dive. the latter, at the important speeds attained remains more manoeuvrable at the end of the dive c) combat without surprise (altitude 4500 to 6000m): 1) the Dewoitine comes to the right of the Messerschmitt: turn fight to the right. no decision for a long time; each adversary tends in turn to take the advantage in an ephemeral manner. then the D.520 brutally stalls to the left repeatedly, executing a 1/2 or 3/4 of barrel roll at full throttle; the BF 109 tends also to stall but it's movement is stopped by the leading edge slats, sending strong jerks to the stick. after it's stalls, which are quickly recovered, the D.520 loses ground and the fight ends to the net advantage of the 109 which can fire in good conditions without having been in the sight of the Dewoitine. 2) the Dewoitine comes to the left of the Messerschmitt: turn fight to the left. very equal first half; each adversary tends to take the advantage in turns for a long time. the evolutions tighten further, the D.520 brutally stalls to the left. instead of recovering his stall, the pilot finished it with a tight turnaround to the maximum, the Messerschmitt, due to it's strong reactions to the controls can't follow the movement and loses sight of the D.520 for some instants. following his movement, the Dewoitine can place himself to the rear sector of the 109 and get quite quickly in a good firing position despite the different evolutions of the latter. advantage to the D.520 which could have fired at the end of the fight in excellent conditions without coming into the sights of the Messerschmitt. TEACHINGS: a) performances: -level speed slightly superior for the Messerschmitt at the adopted altitudes -ascensional speed quite superior of the Messerschmitt which, in combat, must be able to obtain a certain advantage from it. the evolutions in prolonged climb are to avoid for the pursued D.520. it seemed that the D.520 had advantage to switch to "manual" and reduce slightly the propeller pitch, this point is to verify with a group equipped with D.520. -diving speed: the two planes are sensibly similar. b) combat manoeuvrability -the D.520, in tight combat evolutions tends to stall more frequently than the ME 109 supported by it's leading edge slats. the stall of the Dewoitine is very brutal and occurs always to the left; it is so more serious in right hand turn fights where the plane does almost a full barrel roll; in consequence, the turning fight must in preference be executed to the left, if at least the choice is possible. -after the turning engagements ended with the brutal stall of the D.520, it appeared that this stall, while easy to recover, entrains the loss of control of the plane for a few instants, thereby, of the sight on the adversary. it is then dangerous, chiefly if the Messerschmitt 109 tends to have the advantage at that moment, to recover a stall to continue the turn fight. it is better to transform the stall in a turnover as tight as possible, that the Messerschmitt, entrained by it's speed can only follow with a very sensible delay. the stall used in such becomes then a good disengagement manoeuvre which, in some cases, can even permit the D.520 to regain the advantage. -this question of stalling put aside, we can admit that the two planes are comparable in manoeuvrability: the engagements lasted for a while before a decisive advantage is gained by one side or the other. however the D.520 must be considered more manoeuvrable in reason of it's less strong reactions to the commands en in particular to the elevator at high speeds; the pilot of the Messerschmitt must use his elevator trim frequently; this manoeuvre is hard and inconvenient. the pilot of the D.520 can on the contrary leave his elevator trim in a middle position or at least use it in lesser proportions; hence a certain advantage to the D.520 when it's about high speed evolutions where hard dives are followed with vertical climbs. -nothing particular is of note about the stability of both planes. it is satisfactory until the moment the plane tends to stall, mostly in turning fights. concerning the behaviour of the material in combat, the Messerschmitt currently seems well developed. contrary to the D.520 which cools insufficiently in climb; there has been, additionally, systematic incidents with the landing gear and micro pump
Hi Chris. I really love this 109!!!! It's one of the early versions of 109s. Its and E series. As far as the campaign's, the109 was 2nd to none in Poland & Scandinavia and the French campaign; but it met its match during the battle of Britain don't you think Chris? I really believe Chris that if the 109 had a bigger fuel tank they would have won the battle over the skies of Southern England despite Goering changing of tactics from bombing the airfields to bombing London. That could of been another reason why the luffewaffe lost the battle because of the change in tactic. Why couldn't the luftwaffe bomb London at night and still bomb the airfields during the day? But like you said the luftwaffe was not designed to take on a strategic role as the battle of Britain. It was designed to fight short campaigns like Poland supporting the ground troops; it was never really intended to take on a strategic role. But all in all Chris the bf 109 in the right campaign such as Poland or Scandinavia was by far 2nd to none of any war plane at that time. I really would not like to be inside the cockpit of a 109 fighting over the white cliffs of dover; Poland yes. Sincerly yours, Emilio. Would love to hear from you!!!!!
The Bf 109 E's were my favorite model build when young, did the e E 4's, am sure I did a E 3 and a legion condor model,...thanks for the video for this Messerschmidt 109 video.
The Emergency Canopy Release "ejected" (in a sense as the system was spring loaded it allowed the air stream to take off the canopy) the main and rear portion of the canopy. The 109 was not a hard plane to parachute out of, you could get out in a hurry. I have heard many folks suggest that the canopy was hard to open in the air for bailing out. Not so. While the 109 used spring power to allow the air to pull off the canopy, the Fw 190 used an explosive system to put the canopy into a position that the air stream would take it away.
I've been in a HA-1112-M1L that belonged to actor Cliff Robertson some years ago here at the Kalamazoo Air Zoo....trust me the cockpit wasn't designed for anyone over 5'9" and 150 lbs at the most..i'm 6'1" and 210..it took me 15 minutes to wiggle in ...snug isnt a apt word
Matt Foster. Last time I went to the Air and space museum in Washingto D.C. they had a 109 hanging from the ceiling along with a P-40 . Man were they small.
Great video by the way, but would like to make a slight correction as to why the 109 E didn't enter service with the engine mounted MG FF/M cannon. Some 109 E-1s and the earlier D-1 were fitted with the cannon, but vibration, over-heating and seizing were a problem due the its mounting within the engine. So most were removed. When the E-3 came along it was also slated to have the MG FF/M cannon installed, but even with the improved DB601a engine the mounting for the cannon produced the same problems, so the weapon was rarely used and removed in service.
Enjoyed the video content, most especially the cockpit layout with some explanation of the primary differences in the control configuration between early and later models. Sadly most were lost, leaving few examples for study or flight. Thank you.
So it started with a Rolls Royce engine and used wing slats that were also a British design, wonder if there were those in the UK who regretted those decisions? Love these Inside The Cockpit videos, just so interesting and informative, I always end up with so many open Browser windows as I explore the numerous interesting things I see and want to know more about. I'm old enough to still appreciate being able to do this almost instantaneously and with no slow down of my pc. Many thanks for all the great content you put out for us Bismark.
Thank you Bismark , a very interesting video. I am lucky enough that where I live , our Museum of Military History has two 109's. One is an E with significant damage from a crash landing, the other is in good condition and painted in North African campaign scheme. Tne Me109 or BF109 , is one of my favourites and your video had lots of technical details I didn't know.
Fantastic video, will be watching more of these! I’m guessing you’ve been to Duxford in England, where they have a 109 in essentially ‘crashed in a field’ layout. The plane is perfect in itself, just bent props for the purposes of effect.
I know that I'm writing only now but just wanted to tell you that you made an excellent job on the iconic Bf 109E-1. I'm only saddened that the "authorities" decided to cut one side of lower nose for display because it not available on Amazon to order a new one, ridiculous! Seriously among various gauges there is one for the speed in which could indicate a speed of over 700 km/h, this gauge was fitted on the Me 109G-10 and the Me 109K-4...!
Another great video Bismarck. I love all things military, military history, weapons, engineering and archeological findings as well. And i enjoy diving into each countries contribution to military advancements throughout history and have my favorites from each country. Much respect from here in Mobile, Alabama, USA. We build navy ships here as we are a port city. Plus we have a few w military bases here and we build and test Abrams tanks in the northern part of our state. And Huntsville ,Alabama has always been involved in NASA ' s space program and at one time had more rocket scientists per mile than the rest of the world. Have fun and be safe.
Surprised you didn’t mention the supercharger’s hydraulic coupling. (a CVT essentially) or maybe it wasn’t on this model yet. Anyhow, very interesting video! Thank you
As a lad growing up in the 1960's in Texas, I well remember war documentaries and battle anniversaries as my father was a veteran. The Bf 109, FW 190, and the JU 87 Stuka were all well known to me. I had/have a wide ranging knowledge of Allied aircraft. Japanese craft known to me were the Zero, and the Buka kamikaze. Reflecting back, it all stems from newsreels, wing camera films and captured films. I wish I had more knowledge of Soviet aircraft. Thanks for this informative video.
Of course, it's iconic. Any time you build 35,000 of anything, it'll be iconic. The He112 picture shown was from the B variant. It's the A that was beaten by the 109.
Sometime ago I read about a Bf-109 pilot being shot down over Britain during the war. When questioned he insisted that he was shot down by a Spitfire because being such a great pilot in a 109 only a Spitfire could have shot him down. One sleight problem. There was no Spitfire within 200 miles of him. It was a good old Hurricane.
@@visionist7That is true. I contrast that with the 109 pilot shot down by a Lewis gunner on the Romney Hythe and Dymchurch narrow gauge railway which in peacetime was used by tourist. Not the only German aircraft they brought down.
I love this plane. One of my first model airplanes as a kid. First was the Hawker Hurricane, then a Junkers JU-88, then the BF109. I hope to be able to visit that museum one day.
This is the first time I am viewing one of your videos: I was very impressed by your attention to detail and content. I thoroughly enjoyed it and learned a lot. Very good job...I subscribed! 🙂
I never understood why the external fuel tanks weren’t not added and used on the emil variants, that would have been a game changer during the early years of the war. Great video as always cheers from 🇨🇦
Weight and drag. Even modern jet aircraft suffer from a loss of performance with external tanks fitted. Any speed records are done using a “clean” airframe. Then you’d have to modify every 109 with pipework needed for the fuel transfer
They were used on E variants. I think it were the E-7 and maybe late production E-4s. The external fuel tanks just came way to late into service, at the end or after the Battle of Britain.
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Military Aviation History what happened to the E2
How many were exported to Japan ?
Hi Chris can you do a video at Hanger 10 and particular an interview with Klaus Plasa in my view one of the best display pilots in the world i love seeing him flying the 190 ansd 109 it would be a show stopper for you fans ..best regars
Croatia have 50 + 109'
The Emil is probably one of the best looking of the Bf-109 variants, such nice lines for a warplane
I agree. Might not look as refined as the later models but it's got that distinctive look from something coming out of the 1930s while still being extremely modern for the time.
My favorite variant. Hnnngh
@Dalle Smalhals Agreed the Emil does look good and very distinctive, easy to Tell apart from the Hurris and Spits, but the Friedrich looks better.
Just has the better flowing lines......and imho the better weapons arrangement.
But, Robert I can understand If you prefer the Emil....... though I probably couldn't say the same If you'd said the same about the G-6.....😳😉
@@LupusAries The G-6 is actually my favorite. It looks like it just wants to beat somebody up, or has been beaten up, or both.
Friedrich or anything with the Erla Haube for me.
Always impressive to see and hear how much Bismarck knows about all these machines. And great that the museums grant him access to so many of them.
Bismarck... Yup i love this man already
I can't put my finger on it, but this place looks like I have been there before.
Et tu?
@@sudarshanpujari5503 Brute?
The 109 came from before the war, and fought until the end. Though there were innumerable changes, the basic air-frame was a good one and was effective throughout the entire conflict, which is rare in a war where big changes in things happened quickly. From bi-planes to jets in 6 years. the 109 was always there.
It was still going in the Arab Israel war
What a plane
That pistol like grip, the "Knuppelgriff 12A" usually has 2 buttons: that top one, the big one, is only for the prop hub, wing monted cannons & external gun pods(the later variants of the BF 109) on the BF 109, it will be wired/connected as well. the second one is just infront of that grip, just like traditional pistol grips, it has a smaller button only for the machine guns on the engine cowling. The early models of the BF 109 had only one button, and that's only in the front of the grip, mainly because the early models had only machine guns(2 or 4). Also the later variants of the BF 109 will have an external fuel tank, I just don't know if that external fuel tank can be ejected or not.
The last time I was this early, it was still the E-1.
You sure it was not a Fokker Dr1 😊👍
Slogan for a new shirt? Maybe?
lol
Messerschmitt made a little three wheeled car after the war, funny enough like the 109, you got into it with a right-handed hinged bubble canopy
That ME kr175 is so cool.. looks like a plane canopy what missing wing and tail.. and just put on 3 wheels
The Hainkel tojan almost as cool as thr ME
I have seen a few of them over the years. I remember some years ago when I took my family on holiday I drove up to a junction and as I waited for the traffic to clear about fifteen to twenty different types of bubble car went passed. One of those rare occasions when you don't mind waiting for the traffic to clear.
“Proven technology”?
Yes I remember seeing both the Messerschmitt and the Heinkel cars in back in the 1950's. The Messerschmitt had the driver in the front seat, and passenger in the rear seat, which what to me (back then) looked like an actual fighter cockpit hood.
The Heinkel had the front door opening bubble car design.
I thought the Messerschmitt was the best looking....:)
I love that they let you video the cockpit!
I think the Stuka might be more well-known than even the Bf 109. I love how the 109 looks though.
That's my thought as well
Only because Hollywood loves to wank of its sound.
untill today the bf109 is the most produced airplane
@@indahooddererste The achievement goes to Il2 sturhmovik actually.
@@josephhardwicke6344 That's not English
Beautiful plane, probably my all time favorite. I never thought I would see the cockpit in such detail. Excellent video as always.
Check out the modelisation in DCS also
My favourite too
The FW 190 also great though. Spitfire, p51 and Corsair also awesome planes
Very informative. One of the best I've come across. I thought you would mention more about the upside down engine ( inverted) that I always thought was interesting.
Actually, that airframe is kind of a Frankenstein. AFAIK, It's an E-1 fuselage, but when they went to gift it back to Germany they probably thought it would be nicer having cannons, so wings are from other aircraft featuring E-3 traits, plus of course all the maintenance and changes from about 20 years of service. Pretty interesting early cockpit without back armour plate, but featuring KG12 control stick instead of older spade ones seen in Swiss remaining examples. That tells it was actually a German Luftwaffe aircraft (so Condor Legion was Luftwaffe, not "volunteers"…) instead of an export variant like Swiss ones. Thanks for the walkaround
Another great video!! New appreciation for the amount of detail the IL2 sim developers put into their game.
I would love a separate episode focused on the history, because I am not sure it was covered. But otherwise a great video :)
There are hundreds of videos covering that very thing.
@@garysarratt1 Not its early history
Was following along in the cockpit in war thunder while climbing. Learning about the cockpit somehow increased my affinity to the plane so thanks for that!
I'm so excited right now!
Incredible machine. Given the period, many of its design solutions must always be regarded, beyond context, as pure engineering genius.
german engineering - ahead of its time!
Im still waiting for the day Bismarck dives down to the wreck of the Bismarck to make a Inside the Cockpit of one of its sea planes
Considering the pounding she took I have a feeling there would be not much aircraft left.
Big Blue Yes, there are. Look it up.
One of the aircraft was thrown overboard before Bismarck's final battle. Holes were punched in the floats so it would sink and not give Bismarck's trail away to the Royal Navy.
Not sure on the others but Bismarck had hangars for four Arados, plus space for two more on the athwartships catapult.
@Maxwell Smart She's a bit deep for scuba.
Considering he could just head to Romania to do that, why would he have to visit the Bismarck?
Wonderful! Absolutely wonderful. You are an excellent commentator. I made a comment on Military History Visualized, politely suggesting he work on his commentary/ accent thickness and got grilled for it. This is what I was talking about, I could listen to this all day. Great job.
Its strange to imagine someone so young from an almost horse and cart era climbing into one of these things.
Pro tip: There are Bf-109G's on display here in finland! 😏
You guys seem to have lots of very cool stuff in museums. :)
Thank you soo much for this video!! Have been waiting for it for a while but hell it was worth it!
I viewed a Me-109G in a museum and was amazed at how small it appeared to be.
Once saw an Emil at an airshow. Thing might seem small compared to, say, a P-51 or a Hurricane, but it's not a small plane either. (Granted, I'm used to sailplanes so my perspective may be skewed)
Jim H.: You are correct. It *is* a small plane. The key design principle behind the 109's development was to fit the most powerful engine available to the smallest possible airframe. Later models were larger but only to accomodate larger engines.
Yet another excellent video I have been looking forward to. Nothing as enjoyable as Lunchtime with a Inside the Cockpit with MAH.😁 The Emil has a rugged and not quite a refined look like those of the F model. But underneath that rough look lies the potential this plane had and used to great effect.
Where Germany went, the 109 went too. Always leaving its mark.
Great video as always Bis.
I absolutely love the He 112 it's one of my favourite pre-wwii aircraft and I wish you would do a video on it if only there were existing models today
It's such a nice-looking plane, I love it too.
Probably in Romania
Well done Chris.
Thanks John
The sections being segmented nicely in the progress bar is really nice.
Amazing how much technology was available at the time. Before we could only see black and white pictures of these marvelous machines in History books, now we can clearly see how complex and advanced technologically they were.
A most beautiful aircraft! Thank you for such a comprehensive overview. It was both interesting and entertaining
Love the contrast between the planes of the various nations. Our planes (U.S.) were large and very powerful (P47 for example), but the 109 was very small, sleek, and efficient. Not to mention beautiful. An amazing aircraft, and my favorite of the war.
I can't get enough of this channel! Love it!
Full Marks Chris for a a highly interesting and informative comprehensive 'walk around' of the BF 109. All of your videos get full marks from me as they possess the same level of interesting and relevant facts together with the historical context and relevant specifics of the aircraft model of the time. Your series is definitely unique and in my book 'the go to channel' on you tube. Well done.
Excellent video! Thank you so much. Always loved the BF 109.
"Very few survived" might have something to do with the allied policy of placing extreme focus on "systematic dismantling" which resulted in near extinction and made Me-109 a rare species today.
True. I live about a kilometer from a former military airport in Norway, and the British blew up dozens of Bf109s and Fw190s here right after the war. The destroyed aircraft were then bulldozed into a landfill.
Well done, very enlightening. Until now I've never seen good Bf 109 cockpit shots.
Outstanding video and presentation
Awesome! Without a doubt, the 109 is the coolest plane Germany ever made.
My favourite German plane is the me 262.
@@crazykreb2352 Not bad
Its a toss up between The BF 109 & the HO 229
Great museum! Beautiful area!
Was there around 2004. If I remember correct. The 110 was in restoration back then.
Time to make a new visit!
Excellent presentation, beautiful airplane. JOB WELL DONE.
Except for the kinder yelling in background LOL!
The barber pole counter for displaying ammo remaining was brilliant.
on the BF 109 Emil, the French managed to put their hands on one and tested it
the plane they had had alimentation issues above 6000m, the plane working perfectly up to that altitude, they decided to ignore all testing results above 6000m as to not get a false results due to a defective unit (it's not like they could call BF or Daimler for spare parts)
comparison with the D.520 (plane coming from one of the 3 first production models)
RESULTS
performances:
a) low altitude speed (600m):
both planes speed were sensibly close, test were done with radiator flaps open, the ME 109 could get a slight speed advantage (20-30 kph) by closing the radiators
b) climbing to 5.5 km
advantage to the ME 109, notably due to the superior cooling characteristics, as the D.520 had to reduce gas twice due to rising water temperature at 3000m and 4500m
the BF 109 was able to reach 5000m in 6'20"
c) level speed at 5.500m
comparable with a slight advantage to the Messerschmitt
combat manoeuvres:
a) surprised Messerschmitt:
1) disengagement by left hand climbing spiral:
the D.520 could fire for a couple seconds, but the Messerschmitt quickly disengaged taking advantage of it's superiority in ascensional speed
2) disengagement by starting a turn fight:
the Messerschmitt disengaged slowly
3) disengagement by diving:
speed attained by the 109: 700kph on the speedo, the 520 follow it (note that the German anemometers are more generous than the French).
at the end of each important dive, a repeated incident occurred on the D.520, the landing gear opened in the resource without the possibility to retract it, an incident also happened to the micro pump, causing the flaps to stop working
b) surprised D.520
1) disengagement by right hand climbing spiral:
advantage to the Messerschmitt which easily conserve it's aim
2) disengagement by reducing throttle and skidding(?):
if this manoeuvre is correctly applied when the Messerschmitt is about to open fire, it is certainly very effective and this is regardless of the target plane, the 109 is carried by it's speed due to it's dive and is unable to stop the disengagement. this can take it far enough that the D.520 is able to regain the advantage
3) disengagement by diving:
the Messerschmitt follows the D.520 along the dive. the latter, at the important speeds attained remains more manoeuvrable at the end of the dive
c) combat without surprise (altitude 4500 to 6000m):
1) the Dewoitine comes to the right of the Messerschmitt:
turn fight to the right.
no decision for a long time; each adversary tends in turn to take the advantage in an ephemeral manner. then the D.520 brutally stalls to the left repeatedly, executing a 1/2 or 3/4 of barrel roll at full throttle; the BF 109 tends also to stall but it's movement is stopped by the leading edge slats, sending strong jerks to the stick.
after it's stalls, which are quickly recovered, the D.520 loses ground and the fight ends to the net advantage of the 109 which can fire in good conditions without having been in the sight of the Dewoitine.
2) the Dewoitine comes to the left of the Messerschmitt:
turn fight to the left.
very equal first half; each adversary tends to take the advantage in turns for a long time.
the evolutions tighten further, the D.520 brutally stalls to the left. instead of recovering his stall, the pilot finished it with a tight turnaround to the maximum, the Messerschmitt, due to it's strong reactions to the controls can't follow the movement and loses sight of the D.520 for some instants. following his movement, the Dewoitine can place himself to the rear sector of the 109 and get quite quickly in a good firing position despite the different evolutions of the latter. advantage to the D.520 which could have fired at the end of the fight in excellent conditions without coming into the sights of the Messerschmitt.
TEACHINGS:
a) performances:
-level speed slightly superior for the Messerschmitt at the adopted altitudes
-ascensional speed quite superior of the Messerschmitt which, in combat, must be able to obtain a certain advantage from it. the evolutions in prolonged climb are to avoid for the pursued D.520. it seemed that the D.520 had advantage to switch to "manual" and reduce slightly the propeller pitch, this point is to verify with a group equipped with D.520.
-diving speed: the two planes are sensibly similar.
b) combat manoeuvrability
-the D.520, in tight combat evolutions tends to stall more frequently than the ME 109 supported by it's leading edge slats. the stall of the Dewoitine is very brutal and occurs always to the left; it is so more serious in right hand turn fights where the plane does almost a full barrel roll; in consequence, the turning fight must in preference be executed to the left, if at least the choice is possible.
-after the turning engagements ended with the brutal stall of the D.520, it appeared that this stall, while easy to recover, entrains the loss of control of the plane for a few instants, thereby, of the sight on the adversary. it is then dangerous, chiefly if the Messerschmitt 109 tends to have the advantage at that moment, to recover a stall to continue the turn fight. it is better to transform the stall in a turnover as tight as possible, that the Messerschmitt, entrained by it's speed can only follow with a very sensible delay. the stall used in such becomes then a good disengagement manoeuvre which, in some cases, can even permit the D.520 to regain the advantage.
-this question of stalling put aside, we can admit that the two planes are comparable in manoeuvrability: the engagements lasted for a while before a decisive advantage is gained by one side or the other. however the D.520 must be considered more manoeuvrable in reason of it's less strong reactions to the commands en in particular to the elevator at high speeds; the pilot of the Messerschmitt must use his elevator trim frequently; this manoeuvre is hard and inconvenient. the pilot of the D.520 can on the contrary leave his elevator trim in a middle position or at least use it in lesser proportions; hence a certain advantage to the D.520 when it's about high speed evolutions where hard dives are followed with vertical climbs.
-nothing particular is of note about the stability of both planes. it is satisfactory until the moment the plane tends to stall, mostly in turning fights.
concerning the behaviour of the material in combat, the Messerschmitt currently seems well developed.
contrary to the D.520 which cools insufficiently in climb; there has been, additionally, systematic incidents with the landing gear and micro pump
#12:20 , Der Sitz hatte früher im Einsatz nicht diese Polster. Der Flugzeugführer saß auf seinem Sitzfallschirm.
Hi Chris. I really love this 109!!!! It's one of the early versions of 109s. Its and E series. As far as the campaign's, the109 was 2nd to none in Poland & Scandinavia and the French campaign; but it met its match during the battle of Britain don't you think Chris? I really believe Chris that if the 109 had a bigger fuel tank they would have won the battle over the skies of Southern England despite Goering changing of tactics from bombing the airfields to bombing London. That could of been another reason why the luffewaffe lost the battle because of the change in tactic. Why couldn't the luftwaffe bomb London at night and still bomb the airfields during the day? But like you said the luftwaffe was not designed to take on a strategic role as the battle of Britain. It was designed to fight short campaigns like Poland supporting the ground troops; it was never really intended to take on a strategic role. But all in all Chris the bf 109 in the right campaign such as Poland or Scandinavia was by far 2nd to none of any war plane at that time. I really would not like to be inside the cockpit of a 109 fighting over the white cliffs of dover; Poland yes. Sincerly yours, Emilio. Would love to hear from you!!!!!
Fantastic review with some really interesting aspects called out. Well done and thanks!
06:10 you mean second from left? Second from right is a woman :-)
Yes, from left :)
Dont judge, Willi sometimes liked to be called Wilhelmina and dressed the part...
@@MilitaryAviationHistory I was gonna say the same thing hahaha :D That's not what he looked like last time I saw him. Good laugh :'D
@@trauko1388 Well thanks for that mental image. 😮 If you have any more of them do keep them to yourself wont you. 😨
@@bigblue6917 My job is complete! XD
The Bf 109 E's were my favorite model build when young, did the e E 4's, am sure I did a E 3 and a legion condor model,...thanks for the video for this Messerschmidt 109 video.
The Emergency Canopy Release "ejected" (in a sense as the system was spring loaded it allowed the air stream to take off the canopy) the main and rear portion of the canopy. The 109 was not a hard plane to parachute out of, you could get out in a hurry. I have heard many folks suggest that the canopy was hard to open in the air for bailing out. Not so. While the 109 used spring power to allow the air to pull off the canopy, the Fw 190 used an explosive system to put the canopy into a position that the air stream would take it away.
Yes! I heard that too and I was thinking the same thing
Excellent video, that 109 so deserves to be restored to flying condition, would be fantastic to see another "real" 109 in the air.
I've been in a HA-1112-M1L that belonged to actor Cliff Robertson some years ago here at the Kalamazoo Air Zoo....trust me the cockpit wasn't designed for anyone over 5'9" and 150 lbs at the most..i'm 6'1" and 210..it took me 15 minutes to wiggle in ...snug isnt a apt word
Nice one Matt
Matt Foster. Last time I went to the Air and space museum in Washingto D.C. they had a 109 hanging from the ceiling along with a P-40 . Man were they small.
THANK YOU BISMARCK.VERY PROFESSIONAL
in the Technikmuseum Speyer there is a Bf 109 G-4 with JG 52 markings :) ..
always nice to look at
The throttle-switch has "Bosch"-markings on it. Oh that's so nostalgic
Great video by the way, but would like to make a slight correction as to why the 109 E didn't enter service with the engine mounted MG FF/M cannon. Some 109 E-1s and the earlier D-1 were fitted with the cannon, but vibration, over-heating and seizing were a problem due the its mounting within the engine. So most were removed. When the E-3 came along it was also slated to have the MG FF/M cannon installed, but even with the improved DB601a engine the mounting for the cannon produced the same problems, so the weapon was rarely used and removed in service.
Great video, I love your expert commentary as a German warplane enthusiast myself.
I saw one this summer at the Military Aviation Museum in Virginia Beach.A really top notch museum with a great assortment.
Enjoyed the video content, most especially the cockpit layout with some explanation of the primary differences in the control configuration between early and later models. Sadly most were lost, leaving few examples for study or flight. Thank you.
Very good video. Great info and great views.
Thanks for sharing.
Great video!! Love your focus in history.
Thanks for another wonderful video. Greetings from Austin, Texas.
Great work Chris! Thank you.
Rich.
Thank you for all the Details! :)
I saw one at a museum in Savanah Georgia. My first impression was how small of a plane it was . Must of been difficult to get in an enemies sights .
So it started with a Rolls Royce engine and used wing slats that were also a British design, wonder if there were those in the UK who regretted those decisions?
Love these Inside The Cockpit videos, just so interesting and informative, I always end up with so many open Browser windows as I explore the numerous interesting things I see and want to know more about. I'm old enough to still appreciate being able to do this almost instantaneously and with no slow down of my pc. Many thanks for all the great content you put out for us Bismark.
I think you're right. As there were many planes, the 109, P51, Spitfire and Zero will probably be remembered as the most iconic.
All of them except the p51 it was way late in the war and I don’t really care for it. WW2 is really between 1939-1942.
Thank you Bismark , a very interesting video. I am lucky enough that where I live , our Museum of Military History has two 109's. One is an E with significant damage from a crash landing, the other is in good condition and painted in North African campaign scheme. Tne Me109 or BF109 , is one of my favourites and your video had lots of technical details I didn't know.
Good job, Biz. Really enjoyed your video.
Fantastic video, will be watching more of these! I’m guessing you’ve been to Duxford in England, where they have a 109 in essentially ‘crashed in a field’ layout. The plane is perfect in itself, just bent props for the purposes of effect.
I've been to this Museum, Munich Germany easy to get to, right near the city center area, EXCELLENT ! Go ARMY
I know that I'm writing only now but just wanted to tell you that you made an excellent job on the iconic Bf 109E-1. I'm only saddened that the "authorities" decided to cut one side of lower nose for display because it not available on Amazon to order a new one, ridiculous! Seriously among various gauges there is one for the speed in which could indicate a speed of over 700 km/h, this gauge was fitted on the Me 109G-10 and the Me 109K-4...!
Another great video Bismarck. I love all things military, military history, weapons, engineering and archeological findings as well. And i enjoy diving into each countries contribution to military advancements throughout history and have my favorites from each country. Much respect from here in Mobile, Alabama, USA. We build navy ships here as we are a port city. Plus we have a few w military bases here and we build and test Abrams tanks in the northern part of our state. And Huntsville ,Alabama has always been involved in NASA ' s space program and at one time had more rocket scientists per mile than the rest of the world. Have fun and be safe.
Favourite of mine. Thank you for posting
I’ve been waiting for this moment.
Thanks for the cockpit tour. Interesting. Bf 109 for me is one of the best aircraft after p51d during ww2. Bf109g6 is my favorite.
Surprised you didn’t mention the supercharger’s hydraulic coupling. (a CVT essentially) or maybe it wasn’t on this model yet. Anyhow, very interesting video! Thank you
Hi from Finland. We had also G2 and G5 types in our AF.
Großartig!
I would be interested in seeing a video on the changes in wingtip shape and the in the spinner cap shape of the ME-109 / BF-109.
Great documentary. Thanks very much. Greetings from Mexico City.
As a lad growing up in the 1960's in Texas, I well remember war documentaries and battle anniversaries as my father was a veteran. The Bf 109, FW 190, and the JU 87 Stuka were all well known to me. I had/have a wide ranging knowledge of Allied aircraft. Japanese craft known to me were the Zero, and the Buka kamikaze. Reflecting back, it all stems from newsreels, wing camera films and captured films. I wish I had more knowledge of Soviet aircraft.
Thanks for this informative video.
I love the Emil. Interestingly, the only 109 variant made with wing cannons.
Internal, yes, but there were gunpods plus one of the last Kurfusts had Mk108s in the wings
Of course, it's iconic. Any time you build 35,000 of anything, it'll be iconic. The He112 picture shown was from the B variant. It's the A that was beaten by the 109.
Sometime ago I read about a Bf-109 pilot being shot down over Britain during the war. When questioned he insisted that he was shot down by a Spitfire because being such a great pilot in a 109 only a Spitfire could have shot him down. One sleight problem. There was no Spitfire within 200 miles of him. It was a good old Hurricane.
Most downed fighter pilots never saw who shot them
@@visionist7That is true. I contrast that with the 109 pilot shot down by a Lewis gunner on the Romney Hythe and Dymchurch narrow gauge railway which in peacetime was used by tourist. Not the only German aircraft they brought down.
Very informative presentation!
I wish I could travel the world and study and gaze upon these beautiful yet devastating creations. You're so lucky
The slats on the wing are Handley Page safety slats.
I have a small question why in many German WW2 fighters (the 109, the 190 and 262 for example) is the gun sight mounted to the side?
I love this plane. One of my first model airplanes as a kid. First was the Hawker Hurricane, then a Junkers JU-88, then the BF109. I hope to be able to visit that museum one day.
Nice presentation....and what an aircraft. Well done.
This is the first time I am viewing one of your videos: I was very impressed by your attention to detail and content. I thoroughly enjoyed it and learned a lot. Very good job...I subscribed! 🙂
Thank you for making this video
Thanks for sharing!!
I never understood why the external fuel tanks weren’t not added and used on the emil variants, that would have been a game changer during the early years of the war. Great video as always cheers from 🇨🇦
Weight and drag.
Even modern jet aircraft suffer from a loss of performance with external tanks fitted. Any speed records are done using a “clean” airframe.
Then you’d have to modify every 109 with pipework needed for the fuel transfer
They were used on E variants. I think it were the E-7 and maybe late production E-4s. The external fuel tanks just came way to late into service, at the end or after the Battle of Britain.
Stunning plane.
What a thrill it must’ve been to fly it.
I have a feeling that this video is going to be popular.... thanks!
Very good documentation!
nice cockpit tour
Very well explained and discussed Thank You. Terry Offord
Informative. A lot of accidents with that narrow track gear,I imagine.
Another great video , thank you .