Land Rover Discovery 3 / 4 Upper Tailgate Internal Manual Actuator Release Upgrade
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2021
- I think this video is too long - I may well make a 5 minute summary video and do one on swapping the rear tailgate actuator. This part is for sale on our website
www.powerfuluk.com/land-rover-discovery-3-4-upper-tailgate-release-handle-kit.html
To see Land Rover Passion website please visit
www.landroverpassion.com/en/ - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
This is what land rover should have done, nice to see aftermarket companies making stuff that is needed. Well done
Thank you very much for the all inclusive information on how and why and what to do including the minor error over cut of the carpet. Most helpful demonstration. Thanks once more.
It is a bit detailed but i hope it is helpful !
I only got one of these recently. Your timing is impeccable ! Feels like a quality product from LRP … good of you to promote it like this 👍
We cannot have all the good ideas and cannot make all the products so we are always happy to promote other similar businesses - like we have done with the Freelander 2 lift kits etc.
Thanks to Simon and all Powerfuluk team for the great video 👍👍👍
Thanks for the great product and great instructions !
I think my video is a bit long...sorry .. I may do a "quick guide"
I need to look at your website to see if there are any more products i need to review !
To cover the little space between carpet and handle, you can try to untight 4 handle brackets bolts and slide it a little 👍
Thank you - I did it with my Lr4 and it works. now im going to do my LR3
Hi,👋 very nice 👍 video also so many people get it ideas and fix it without going to the garage.
Thanks 🙏 🙏👍👍
Another great video guys, I'll get one ordered up from yourselves shortly
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4 minutes in and already a bunch of useful tips. thanks.
You may find that is the only tips in the video.... the rest could be just waffle !
@@L663 no worries, call it entertaining waffle then.
Mind you, having a 7 seater it makes you think about the need for an emergency exit for the rear passengers.
Once you have removed the lower tailgate carpet, I recommend temporarily putting one stay white and ball back on to prevent the foot paint getting soiled, if the white foam you have used should slip off the bumper.
Another great video.. "we make mistakes, so you don't have to ".. Brilliant . cheers guys.😃😃
great job simon and camera man watching you guys from jamaica
Great video - LRP has some interesting kit on their website. Just ordered a low profile roof rack from them.
This inside release handle is primarily useful for people camping inside the back of the Disco - since the rear hatch can be opened from the inside while you are inside. The “insurance against failed latch” is a secondary benefit.
Jon
Yes we are always happy to work with other companies in the LR world and they have some great products.
When you are camping inside you can always exit the rear doors but agree the tailgate could be beneficial.
Clever whoever designed that. Very usefull mod and another great video.👍
The video was a bit longer than I intended - but glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for this video. I was going to make something up myself but now I just ordered this kit from Land Rover Passsion.
Excellent ! sorry the video is a bit long but hope it helps your install !
@@L663 The video will be a great help. BTW the kit arrived today from italy. 3 1/2 days from italy to Melbourne Australia via UPS. Absolutely brilliant considering it takes me 2 weeks to get anything from Sydney right now.
Well done 👍 the disco 3 have tailgate cable problem and disco 4 have actuator problem, This is the best solution for your tailgate it releases both problems 😁
Thx for the video, I installed mine today and it came out prefect.
Glad it helped
A bit of sunshine, hot tea at the ready and an iPad to follow this install and all done - sooo much better than reading instructions (didn’t have a jigsaw so just drilled a lot of holes around the outside edge for the handle and worked out fine) 😎🤓🙏 Now Ineed to find out the hack to release the lower tailgate, just in case that packs up 🤓
Not heard of many issues with the lower tailgate release
I have had similar problems on my 2005 LR3.
A couple of years ago my upper tailgate switch stopped working. Managed to doctor the switch and fit a simple press button ‘horn’ type switch, still fully enclosed behind the rubber cover that protected the original micro switch.
But just recently it stopped working again, due to badly corroded wires leading to the switch. I cut out all the rot and replaced it with new wires, tapped it all up to prevent moisture ingress and now it works fine again.
However, due to the age of the vehicle, just in case the actuator fails , I have also attached a Bowden cable from an old bicycle brakes to the actuator mechanism, using and M6 bolt, nyloc nut and 2 washers to act as the clamp joining the Bowden cable to the original.
Really enjoyed watching alterations... now have to sort out my top tailgate by taking it back to garage that just sold it!
Apparently the 120 check didn't find it amongst others!
Thank you
At least you spotted it ! hope it gets sorted !
@@L663 Thank you!
Hi Simon and Tyler , great video, that company has a great range of other discovery 3/4 products , very informative it a must for a d3/4 .,regards mark
Yes they have some great and innovative products.
@@L663 they also do a module to fire up the websto heater but I don’t think it’s for my disco 2016. Regards mark
Great demo, I will do it too
Excellent Video as always lads !
Thanks again!
I tink i would have re drilled the holes in the lift , Great job
I SO NEED this... I have had this fail on both my LR3 and LR4
Thanks sir you are always great job 🙏
Our pleasure !
Great video chaps. Thanks.
Our pleasure!
Mighty useful Simon..but a comp,ex job to get dead right first time! I just might have to order a kit for a friends D4 just in case of failure…I had never heard of the problem before though! Thank you for this..Richard😀😀😀😀
Hi Richard - this is a big problem if you are unlucky ! and it does happen a lot - you can see from the comments !
Excellent video - as always, thanks. This is what every Disco 3/4 should have. But, I think it would be a good idea to remove and replace the rubber covering instead of cutting it. This way the actuator would still be properly sealed and damp protected after the modification. I assume the rubber is to help protect the actuator from any igress of moisture.
John as ever your points are most valid - I have now ordered a new rubber cover and will add this to the next video / and our website.
Thanks guys , thiss super helpful !
Our pleasure!
Exelent vieo as always. Now my 8 years old kid will have a new toy handle to play with, while Im driving at 120 KPH on the higway.
That is awesome!
Nice video!
You can leave the wires holding the tailgate on the bolts and remove the bolts with the cable. That also removes the risk of the tailgate holding cables disappearing....
This is a top tip and one I will use in the next video... you get a love heart for this !!
Excellent tip. Thank you.
Yes. I just installed the LR Passion lever, and removed the bolts and cable together. Saves a step, a bit easier.
Damn, great product and as usual Simon a very informative and entertaining video. I just wish you had done this 4 weeks ago when my actuator packed it in. Not going to bother now that a D300 Defender is on order, although the way that is going I might still need it 😂 Ordered in late May and still don't have a build date. Apparently the 11.4" screen is the delay.
The lead time for the Defenders seems to be getting longer... we were really lucky to get one of the first ones. Interesting the 11.4 screen is the issue but it makes a huge difference and for the extra £140 is the best value extra in the build offering !
Yes, the bigger screen and the eDiff would be the best value from what we have ordered. As for delays, we also have the tyranny of shipping to Oz, which according to a mate in that industry is about 2 months.
Love the vids and some of your ideas. Will definitely look at the cargo light, reversing lights and probably the recovery eye hooks. By the time we take delivery, there will probably be a few other items I'm sure.
Ah, on the screen delay, just what the dealer has told us. Could not understand why they can't build if this is the only part they are waiting for, although if there are a lot of cars they can't deliver because of this part, they would have to store the 'unfinished' vehicles somewhere. And that may be a problem.
There does appear to be a world wide shortage of some computer chips used for graphics cards (Bitcoin miners sucking them up apparently). If this is correct, maybe contributing to the delay.
Great video
Love from the Ministry of Love 💛💙
I guess your so glad I told you about them Simon lol,not got my d4 anymore due to wife's illness, now got a Mercedes vito w447 so can you start making stuff for them so I can stay a customer 😉
Hi Pat - thanks for the idea - it took us a while to get around to this - the new Defender keeps distracting us ! There is a lot of demand for Vito and also VW van stuff but for some reason I am stuck in the 4x4 mindset !
Great video and most instructive however if the actuator fails with the back locked and the upper door down there is no way to get at the screws that hold the top cover of the carpet. In my case the only way to access the actuator and replace it was by cutting a hole in the lower door lining above the actuator which then needed to be replaced or repaired. This item would be excellent as a safety precaution in case of a failure. Enjoy your wry humour.
Hi Denis we have done a video on this..
th-cam.com/video/SS-Yxnh98uA/w-d-xo.html
Great video.....what i would like to know is if the car is deadlocked (no doors open from inside) can the tail gate still be opened when locked ??
No good boys the very end pin that has a 90 bend is what usually breaks (built obsolescence and several hundreds of dollars into bloody JLR POCKETS) and not the actuator, so this fix doesn't cover all Land Rover typical shite. I used 3 long 6 cents each cable ties as the South African video shows. 2 tie all together so if the 90 degree end piece breaks and actuator stuffs up and you tie the third very long cable tie to poke out between the carpet and plastic trim. Then if anything goes just pull the cable tie. All up 18 cents, works much better quicker to install and a few thousand % cheaper than those bibs and bobs.
Thank you for making the mistake so we didn't have to, our interior handle went on straight 😁
Good job !
What use is a subwoofer under the carpet? i had same problem on mt D3, found a good video where you press both unlock and lock buttons on dash and hold. If actuator is working, it opens partly. Then wedge open and repeat, or get another person and pull as buttons are pressed. My actuator is working and ordered a new switch today.
When I was working for for ECW in Lowestoft in the early 80's, I can't go into details, a friend I knew as he has long pasted but he went to visit Dirty Gertie from number 30,as he often said. Or Mr B. Brush if that's the reference you think of.
Indeed it was Mr B Brush...
Dirty Gurtie from number 30was referred to on the Basil Brush Show Boom! Boom! 🦊
Well done.... classic TV
Great video again Simon, as I had my tailgate jam on me some weeks ago, but when I tried to order the kit from your website, the kit came up and said know such kit. I tried different ways to look for it but came up empty. Maybe I was to early, can you check your website to make sure the kit is on it. PLEASE. Regards Chris.
It is on there now - www.powerfuluk.com/land-rover-discovery-3-4-upper-tailgate-release-handle-kit.html
We had it up but not for sale as i was waiting to do the video - we like to launch products with the video so people fully understand the product.
With you using the line of the carpet plus the jig all you would need then is a measurement from the side instead of painting the top of the screws what do you think.?
The king of templates comes up with another good idea - we could design a cardboard template to fully locate the item and then there would be no need to mark or drill the hole.
Good video and a well-engineered solution. But on reflection the location chosen for the release handle is sub-optimal - I’ve been looking at putting a fridge in the boot and the most logical place would block access to the release handle. I’ve also been thinking about a sleeping platform, and the best solution seems to be at parcel shelf (or there abouts) level, and that would make access to the handle tricky at best. So it seems it’s only in the best place for that rare camera person who wants to illegally film from the back of a moving car.
I think a better location would be somewhere just behind the second row of seats, at parcel shelf level. I know that would make getting the Bowden cable out of the lower tailgate, but to my thinking it would be a better solution for all scenarios - even the luny camera person could still access it!
I think that was chosen as being the only place where it could be fitted without physically cutting the metal of the tailgate itself.
@@johnwillett4086 yes understood. It is well engineered and thought out, but the resulting location of the release handle will stop me buying one.
Did modification and top tailgate is not closing fully half the time. What needs adjusted so it locks consistently?
I wonder if this would work on FL1
in the event of switch failure, your scan tool should be able to actuate the release solenoid via the body module I assume
Yes for a switch failure it is easy - the actuator failure is the problem !
As great as this backup is it has major limitations. So many of us in Aus have draws or a cargo barrier in the back and cant get into the back when the door fails. Im doing a similar setup, but with the latch down near the 2nd row of seats. Easy access when loaded.
The unit is exactly the same as a lazyboy latch, but with a label and bracket.
Good point ! maybe just fit a new actuator every 5 years ?
How about a release next to the fuel filler - hidden and behind a locking fuel flap
@@L663fuelcap location, now thats a good idea. I had considered it, but it may be worth me looking into a bit more. As for regulare replacement, i know that will be forgotten, and some fail early anyway. Goid to hace a plan B.
Any suggestions to actually get the boot open to do this ?, I’ve tried with the engine on , still nothing ..actuator is not having any of it !
That’s a lot of work consider you could have opened one of the back doors ;)
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hi simon is the release button upside down
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I have a disco 4 sdv6 hse wit engine issues can I fix the td6 engine on the sdv6
You don't happen to have part number for those screws at start holding black plastic on top? I've got two missing from when I bought car.
Screw = EYP500250
Cap = EZU000010PVA
Nice, this mod is a smart move. Had to replace mine after failure. Not fun.
How did you access to open the tailgate when your broke ?
@@L663 I used a trim clip removal tool. The rigid pry bar one made from plastic. Crawled into the back and wedged the pry at between the tailgate trim and the carpet. Once I had a little more space I wedged another trim tool in. Then a screwdriver between the trim tools applied pressure until the carpeted price popped out. Take patience not to tear it up. It can be done though. Got a full replacement kit from Atlantic British even has the vapor barrier new. I still worry about being out on a trip and all my stuff being locked in. This is why I am really interested in the manual release. Good bit of kit.
I can hear something working but I can’t open the top hatch, is this the actuator that’s failed or the switch? I want to make sure I do the roughy steps and not mess it up more
It sounds like classic weak solenoid - best if you can get it open - try with the engine running - sometimes the extra voltage will be enough for the actuator to work
Dirty Gertie from No 30; Boom, Boom! - Basil Brush
Yes sir ! top marks..
Simon, you very nearly broke into High Fidelity as in The Kids From Fame. Sorry to admit knowing that and worse, I have the original LP!
Hi Steve - Knowing the song is one thing... attempting to sing is another..... but owning the LP ! that a whole new scale !
Hi there... do you think the L663 can have an internal switch of some sort? Cheers
This is a good question - I am told the 90 commerical has a rear door release - but this is something i need to look at again
I can’t believe
Where can I purchase the latch?
Hello Simon... a quick question if you don't mind.... would it be possible to buy a copy of the 5mm tool you used as I do not have access to a workshop ?
In the grand scheme of things, the price is irrelevant.
Best Regards M.J.Liptrot
Can you tell me the time in the video i am using the tool you need
Simon do you do rear wheel arch repair panels for l322
No - are these starting to rust ?
Is it unique part desgined especialy for Disco or from another vehicle?
Designed 100% for Disco 3 and 4 !
@@L663 Can't see it on site - Block ID: GEO02
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Land rover don't seem to be very good at the details, do they?. It's like they seem to forget that their vehicles will go wrong at some point and access will be needed.
Nice product, excellent video.
Is there any part of your land rovers you haven't been into? 😂
Would this potentially work on new defender? It would be quite handy to open tailgate from inside when camping in the car.
That is a good idea and worth an investigation.. apparently there is such a thing on the 90 commercial - let me take a look at the parts catalogue
@@L663 thank you 🙏
I already have a pile of things to buy from Simon if my on order Defender V8 ever gets made, this would absolutely be added to the list.
Hi , my work conversion D3 EV ✋🤝
Wow are you changing the D3 to be EV ? using Tesla parts ? tell us more !
@@L663 Yes , MLEV , PhaetonEV end other projects 👍
Oy, I’m shite at navigating your site. Can you link this handle? Not in UK.
Here you go - I have moved things around into a more logical order
www.powerfuluk.com/vehicles/land-rover/discovery-3/spare-parts/land-rover-discovery-3-4-upper-tailgate-release-handle-kit.html
@@L663 appreciate it son, keep it real!
Where can I purchase this Manual Release?
On our website powerfuluk.com
That handle and cable looks a lot like those used on reclining armchairs. Just saying....
afraid i fell asleep with boredom watching this bodger
Be not afraid - I hope you had a good nights sleep and are now refreshed ready for a new day !
If one were looking to allocate blame here surely it should be Land Rovers bad design and part reliability that should be the target!
Yeeeees , it happened to me . What a world of crap it caused me. 🙈💩🙄
Why is there a giant cigarette in the boot?
It’s the famous orange marker pen
One dealer technician did not like this video.
Give me some feedback - what was the problem ?
@@L663 I was just joking - there is one sad downvote on your video, but not from me. I am a 20 year veteran of Land Rover service now working for Maserati. I still refer to your excellent videos for technical help.
@@L663 Your reply asking for expert feedback says a lot of positive things about you!! That's why I like watching this channel - my suspicions confirmed!
The camera work is truly awful. But the product looks useful.
Well its back to college for me to do media and film studies