I didn't actually want them to get fired, I wanted them to listen to our constructive negative feedback and adjust the next game to want we the fans wanted (Chloe and Max handled with respect and not a superhero type looking setup they seemed to want). I hope Square just gives LIS back to DontNod, the DontNod team is always engaging with LIS fans still to this day when we talk about LIS1 and LIS2 and they are better suited to handle the franchise they created.
Max is a superhero character though and is well used to explore those tropes in milder, intimate stories like LIS. Where they are Finding Out is that they stomped all over the most die-hard faithful fans the franchise has; Pricefielders. They didn’t even have to have Chloe in the damn game, just could have established her off screen for the duration, had some texts, maybe some V/O, and trusted their plot and gameplay not to need romance subplots for Max
@@danieldiaz4084 I think they didn't wanna do more stories with Max and Chloe cause they said the story is complete with those two. Michel Koch always says he wanted to give the players the power to craft your own stories on where they think Max and Chloe's lives would go, the only thing DontNod really says about Pricefield is they're destined to be together forever if you saved Chloe at the end.
@@PricefieldPunk I don’t know about the last part, but yeah they didn’t plan on making another life is strange with max and Chloe which tbh kinda made sense for me since it would have been too difficult with the choice you have to make at the end of life is strange 1 bc it’s difficult to make a game where both ending would be respected, or made sense. When DE trailer got out tbh I wasn’t really thrilled because of that reason but in the end I actually really enjoyed if even tho I always choose to save Chloe, I do think that for the next game they plan (or planned) to have Chloe in it since max kinda mention it in the end of DE (that or she mention that she might be ready to go back at Arcadia bay depending if Chloe is dead or not in your game) I genuinely think Deck Nine can make a great job for the next game, I mean for me they did a really great job with before the storm and Chloe character at that time so they def could do it again, as much as I want to see Chloe again tho, the new characters were really great, romance option were meh but yeah, let’s hope for the best
To me it just felt like a bad copy of LiS 1. The only thing that was kinda unique about DE was the travelling between two realities, but other than that they used pretty much everything that made LiS 1 unique, except that they couldn't handle the whole ''time travel'' thing just as good as LiS 1, making the story a complete mess. It seems like they thought they could excuse anything with time travel but forgot it has to make actual sense.
i haven't heard much about the story and i don;t want to yet...i haven't got the game i don't want spoilers...but i have heard many people whining about glitches or other grpahical problems and as an expert pointed out in an interview this is a huge marketing mistake; DE is meant to come out for the Switch as well so the last thing we wan to hear is negative feedback that makes Square Enix and Deck Nine think "well hey maybe we should just cancel the Switch version enitrely" and this is eactly what's in their mindset...which is cold and selfish to those of us who have pre-ordered the switch version.
that is what people said about true colors though...it could just be they were rushing through it and not exploring properly...i can't get a hold of a copy of DE but if someone let me play it on their PS5 i will show them how a REAL LIS player should do it (aka spend 30 minutes in every room and talk to every body...then maybe the game will probably feel like a real game)
“This action will have consequences” that is the life is strange motto. I feel like Double Exposure had such a disconnect between fans and the creative team. I’m not saying the fans are always right, but feedback and having knowledge on what your fan base wants to see is a big deal. Obvious things that needed to be handled with care with such a polarizing ending from the first Life Is Strange were not met. These are the consequences of such actions. I do hope all those that have been laid off can still be financially stable, but they did a lot of the continuation of this story wrong and I can’t say I am surprised it has come to this.
Don't Nod: You could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? Deck Nine: ... Don't Nod: Back to me. Dont Nod: When Deck Nine consulted me for Before the Storm and True Colors, I approved. But when Square Enix gave away the rights to Deck Nine, I told them it was unnecessary. That it should belong more to its creator. Otherwise, the franchise would face imminent ramifications. They called me a madman. And what I predicted came to pass.
Yes, imo don’t nod are the only studio that can try to fix the mess of de and rewrite everything. Idk any other studio who wants to fix the disaster of de. Just buy lost records in Feb and if it blows up in sales then lis could come back to don’t nod. Even if they don’t want to continue max and Chloe’s story just make another lis game that has references to those characters.
@@engagingweirdo The studio is in trouble. Lost Records may not save it. DONTNOD's workers are striking. How would they even be a good option to have LIS back? Lets take LIS from one troubled studio and give it another. That is nonsense.
The game itself was beautiful. The art style & music was amazing! The problem was that the game didn’t really feel like life is strange, it felt like just another choice game
I honestly do feel sorry for everyone at Deck Nine that got laid off, especially around this time of year. I hope for the best of them all in the future.
Chloe should have been Max's roommate if Arcadia Bay was sacrificed. Warren could be Max's roommate if Chloe was sacrificed. It all could have been that simple.
It's wild to me how Warren was completely disregarded in DE too. Like if you saved the Bay you'd think Warren would have some kinda role in DE, i know there's ppl out there who do ship Gramfield and D9 was like nah forget him too lmao
or they could of had the game to just be only cannon to 1 timeline where cloe got sacrificed because the chloe still alive already has a cannon sequel which is the comics. all the developers have to say that they support different timelines as cannon hence both choices are cannon and both will have their own stories to tell, heck they could of done 2 games. in the future 1 for each of the end choices. would make them a lot of money. its really not hard to think of something like that
I read an article recently about Deck9’s working culture. Beyond the horrible working culture (crunch, bullying etc), it talked about how the narrative team was unhappy with the direction DE was taking at multiple points, but the former CCO (who was there until as late as April 2024) didn’t listen to them and took decision making away from the narrative team as a response. It’s sad that it’s the narrative team being let go, and not the executives who (according to the news) seem to be the root of the problem with DE. Of course it’s not a single person’s fault, but in my head the meddling hands of the executives explains why the first chapter are so much higher quality than the last two. If you wanna read about it just look up “decknine working culture” and the things I’m saying specifically were in a eurogamer article.
I found the article, and tho this was about True Colors, I think it’s good insight. “ IGN reports Garriss later "distanced himself" from the narrative team, working with another lead to "make most of the story decisions, rewriting work from other writers without allowing them the opportunity to give feedback, even on stories centring marginalised characters." “
@@mitchsledge9295nope chapters 1-3 weren’t annoying and repetitive they were was great and 4 and 5 weren’t the best part of the game they were too short
TC is what gave me hope for DE lmao i liked TC but maybe thats cause i had zero expectations with all brand new characters. If you bring Max back you are putting so much pressure on yourself cause the fandoms had 8 years to imagine what Max's life was like After the storm with Chloe or after she sacrificed Chloe.
I think what they did with Chloe was far from the only issue of this game so to be short: Safi was a horrible person, and I didn't get a chance to refuse her, or shoot her because decline her offer in the end wasn't satisfying enough There were plenty of times when the game forced me to do things: best example was when I had to expose Lucas meanwhile I thought talk to him first and not follow the karen's plan who just broke into Max's house Safi's motivation of revenge for that girl was just hollow, we cared for Rachel because everyone was talking about her, that girl was just brought up twice before suddenly I had to evenge her death by her own hand. For all I new she could've been a horrible person The romance options was generic and boring (the guy was kinda fun but he still had to replace Chloe, and he made me realise, Warren was actually a great romance option) The storm was weak. In the first one it destroy everything and now it was barely an inconvenience. The choices in the end didn't matter. I couldn't shoot Safi, but even the town's folk fate was the same. The cat didn't sit in Max's lap ONCE The two timelines emerged in the end dodging the possibility of a really cool choice of choosing between the two And the worst of it all the superpowers became the focus. Life is strange wether it's about Max or Chloe or Alex, even Sean, it's suppose to be an emotional journey. It's the same thing when Game of Thrones started to be about dragons and not men plotting in dark rooms and women scheming in beatiful gardens. (I just started reading the books instead, join me in this, it's great) Marvel's shared universe it's probably on their way out ny now, but back in the day they didn't just brought superheroes together, they also built a threat for them to face So creating a team of gay superpowered girls is just the wrong way for the franchise to go. To make it clear I agree that it's horrible for these people to lose their job, but I'm glad that this vision of Life is strange just not likely to happen.
I feel the same way. Safi was the worst character I’ve seen in any Life is Strange game. I hated that we couldn’t set boundaries with her and how Max was so obsessed with her. She was a horrible person. Also, I think Warren ended up looking way better in comparison to Vinh. Vinh is not someone Max would realistically be interested in. The love interests in this game just weren’t very good.
I think double exposure was rushed. I think they were in the middle of making the game when the crunch hours and such happened. So I feel they lost a lot of workers as well as a lot of money because of that so they had to rush the game. And now with the layoffs. I really hope that they make at least one more game to finish the series.
It feels like with DE they steered heavy in Bay fans and people that said Pricefield was toxic and doomed to fail. They said they were gonna respect both endings of Lis1, only to lie and make a game that was tailor built for the Bay ending. They lied blatantly and it backfired so hard and alienate so many existing fans that they had to layoff a huge batch of people.
@@cricketexperience778 it was so rushed. It went from 0 to 10,000 real quick. It's like they didn't have time to finish without delaying the game further.
As a longtime fan of the series, this is a deeply sad time to be living in. (Also apologies in advance for a really long comment) I didn't love True Colors (I thought it was alright, if a little forgettable), but I also didn't hate it as much as Before the Storm (for too many reasons to go into here). I was really hopeful that Deck Nine would be able to bring us a worthwhile continuation of Max's story. And they had some good ideas early on. Like, there's an (seemingly evil) alternate reality Max running around? Characters seemingly having doppelgangers that are ruining their lives? A REALLY engaging puzzle of Max jumping between timelines to find a piece of evidence before a detective can? I loooooved what Deck Nine was cooking up here. But over the last two episodes, they didn't just NOT stick the landing - they crashed and burned spectacularly. The story is full of inconsistencies and plot holes, not only about Max's new and old powers, but character motivations. Settings and scenarios are seemingly pulled straight from older games (attending a party in Ep4, thrown by a morally questionable club where shit goes down/finding out a male teacher has mistreated his students/having an obligatory "reality is breaking" sequence in the last episode). An entire character (the detective, Vince Alderman) is introduced and then seemingly erased from existence with no follow-up. The whole mystery of who killed Safi is thrown out the window after Ep3 in pursuit of avenging a character we never even meet, who seems to exist only to be the victim of the school's administration. The confounding "final choice" and the ambiguous ending seems to set up an MCU-style, X-Men-esque sequel. The new characters are, for the most part, painfully one-note and uninteresting. Neither of the ham-fisted "romance options" interested me in the slightest. Vinh is an arrogant dickhead, and Amanda is just...there. (I actually forgot her name and had to look it up just now.) Really, there are too many story issues to mention and this comment will already be paragraphs long. The cherry on top of Deck Nine's mishandling of the story is how they shrugged off Chloe. Now I don't know how DE frames the Bay ending and honestly I don't have enough interesting in replaying it to find out. But I chose the Bae ending and I was curious how the writing staff would "respect" that ending, in their words. Turns out they didn't respect it at all. The story arbitrarily decides that Max and Chloe break up at some point because Chloe can't handle Max being hung up on the past or something (which is kind of wild given how dedicated Max was to Chloe). Max even admits that they had a "big fight" but has no details on what it was about. Instead of having Chloe away for a job/busy visiting David/being a long-distance partner for whatever reason, DE's story just writes her out completely while still letting us see pointless social media updates from her with no means of reaching out to her. And in the ending I witness in DE, Moses asks if Max is ready to stop running from the blue-haired girl (or something to that effect), which threw me for an even bigger loop. How on earth did the Deck Nine team think they would be able to follow up on Chloe in a later game after completely sidelining her character in this one?? Just ... absolutely bonkers. And for what it's worth, I'm sure Square Enix's meddling is how we got the outrageously overpriced DLC that was a few "meh" alternate outfits (which changed Max's hair and makeup for no reason) and "cat content" that was just a few moments throughout the game which could easily be cut out. None of this helps the fundamental failure DE is as a sequel - now it's just a vastly overpriced sequel with overpriced cosmetics. My best case scenario is DONTNOD is allowed to take control of the games again and either somehow fix the mess D9 made of Max's story, or do something completely new (in line with their original "anthology" approach to the series).
personally true colors is my favorite in the franchise but probaly due to bias on what they do. but this game was VERY dissapointing. worst game in the franchise, not a bad game, just dissapointing
@@joeymag593 There won’t be a sequel. This is a total Franchise KILLER. Gwen’s only feature is she’s trans. The physics dude’s only feature is he’s black. What a bigot game.
I dislike Double Exposure, but what’s happened to the employees at Deck Nine is horrible. The AAA-ness of Deck Nine and their relationship to Square Enix is not a good environment for the “Life is Strange” IP or the people that work there.
Well... I am again in the phase where I am playing (or at least trying to do so) the old 10-ish game with really nice music and in the meantime the game franchise grew up into something big and pricy (at least on consoles). Now it is sad for me to hear that the franchise of my childhood... may die in a few months... Yes the SE may "gift" this project to other people, however... it would be another game, with others person view on this piece, and it is still sad that the game and the people behind it are having a rough time during the holiday time.
the fact they wanna blame “the industry” instead of the game makes me feel like they’ve learned nothing and the next LiS will be just as bad and undeserving of my money.
I've always believed deck nine made worse LIS games. Dot nod made them more balanced and engaging to wider audiences. Deck Nine seems like they made a rookie attempt at a veteran concept of storytelling and speaking to a ln audience with a wide range of beliefs. Tru colors was thier best attemp but even that just didn't connect. I played it because of my love for the Dot Nod games definitely not before the storm.
They should make a complete different sequel by DONTNOD at this point i think(even though it is unlikely). Because i want to believe that the director of this game who has been fired created a complete story including the next game, and it is really hard to tell from this game what he had in his mind. So any new director won't be able to complete this one properly if he/she don't know about that complete story.
I mean, the writers themselves admitted that at a certain point they wrote themselves into a dead end and at times no longer knew how to continue the story... Apart from the fact that a sequel to a long-finished story was doomed to failure from the beginning, I didn't expect it would be this bad... Layoffs are always terrible. But if you really want to fix the mess that the writers have caused, then something has to happen... But I think no matter what you do, this story can't be saved even with a sequel and a new writing team...
Considering they ignore their play testers critism about the story ending up not that good at the end, ignore concerns from the fans, and how the making of the game is felt with mostly the lack of love and care from greedy executives oh yeah I also forgot to mention the misleading marketing in which didnt even explain what the game was MAINLY about. it was just bait no wonder they are doing terribly. honestly i hope this is a wake up call for them
It's crazy how right that leak was (apart from the Chloe appearance). For me Ep 1 was boring (but I accepted it at the time as part of the build up), 2 and 3 were great, but 4 and 5 were so bad. It's like they forgot their own story half way through writing it.
I'm honestly not even shocked and surprisingly like as much as I would have loved to see more I think I've had stuff like this happen so many times where universes are promising stuff that they will never deliver on that I'm no longer affected by it.
Thank you Dom I been with you for many yrs and you help my anxiety. Ughh the problem with Double exposure is it doesn't draw us emotionally and no real shock fact. The characters are NOT interesting. LifEisStrange3 was Good I actually cried with u. Several scenes of powerful emotions and situations were evoked. Charlotte's anger scene is just 1 that blew us away. Safi isn't really interesting. We needed Chole pretty bad. Welp back to the original creators DONTNOD. Bloom and rage looks amazing and gives me the old Life is strange feels that they created.
I remember the controversies around LIS2 and how it wasn't the game people wanted. And now people are turning around and saying it's a masterpiece. Granted, I thought it had an undeserved bad reputation back then, but I also think people are being hypocrites. Wouldn't surprise me if the next game did a u turn on everything DE was, played it ridiculously safe, and then people realized that DE being bold and controversial was actually a good thing, even if the execution was poor at times
This is sad. I rlly don’t wanna see a repeat of the telltale situation with this franchise. Lis has helped me through heartbreak,anxiety,overall sadness and emotional/mental health the fact that things are going the way they are is even more tragic
Great video and input on the situation man. While i’m not necessarily fond of DeckNine it does suck to see people lose their jobs around this time especially. Hoping they can quickly pick up work again at a place that appreciates their talents to the fullest extent.
i’m confused, are youtubers getting paid to promote double exposure or something? Are they trying to avoid severing a partnership? i’m noticing so much resistance to calling double exposure for what is is - a bad game. I love the series as much as everyone else. But come on, it’s pissing me off to see you and other creators dance around it so much
How exactly would you say I’m dancing around it when I’ve expressed in this video that Double Exposure to a degree did flop and Deck Nine really needs to improve
Damn, didn’t realize it was this bad. I bought the game a few days ago and just beat it. I thought the game wasn’t that bad, however those last 2 episodes were ehh imo. Hopefully they can still continue this franchise, I do have fun playing through these games.
Ya know, are people who are into Pricefield perhaps too into it? Maybe. But they're also the fans who've kept LiS alive as a franchise for ten years with Fanfiction, artwork, and all sorts of other things. Ya look at AO3, 8k fanfictions or so for LiS, and like 3.6k of those have Max and Chloe together. Fanfiction as well has like 3k LiS stories with like at least 1.5k of them having Chloe and Max in them. I dunno who looked at that and said, ya know what they would really like? Breaking them up. People who sacrificed Chloe/saved Arcadia Bay don't really care about what happens after. I've seen very little to no one complain about how it basically received the same treatment. Max talks to literally no one. Not Kate, Warren, Dana, Victoria, no one. Anyone who did 5 minutes of research could tell you that Max and Chloe are the most popular couple in the LiS franchise. LiS much as I love the series is a niche game with a limited audience, and limited ability to gain new fans. Whoever decided that pissing off half the fan base if the stats at the end of liS1, and the remaster are anything to go by, was a dumb decision and D9/SE have only themselves to blame. And yes some people have overreacted with threats and harassment that they shouldn't have. But they also aren't the ones who burned the bridge down either.
They might get bought out and absorbed by a bigger studio. I still think there will be another game. The question is, will it be a shell of its former self.
I need the game to be own by a different game developer company, and remake double exposure. It felt rushed and move away from the chole and max relationship. The “choices that matters” do not matter. It sucked as you kept playing. I like the ending episode cliff hangers. But the story went out flat and trash
There are infinite timelines when it comes to LiS. In this timeline Max and Chloe just separated. The way the game presented it makes sense to me. Max is responsible for the hundreds of lives lost to the storm cus she wanted to save one person and Chloe is the person that a town was sacrificed for. Save a whole city or 1 person, there’s only one reasonable answer and that’s the city. I save the Bae btw and I will do it again but my point is, im not mad at the games portrayal of Max and Chloe’s relationship in the game
This is a huge problem that I probably expected. I never got to play double exposure because of the endless bugs on the pc port and I ended up just uninstalling just until something happens if it does. The fact they waited about 2/3 months to fix the loading screen bug but the lag is still happening on the menu and in the main game is crazy. The toxic culture and the lay offs over the last few years just speaks for itself. But all that being said I'm still a huge fan of the life is strange franchise and hopefully one day I will get to play the new one. I'm turning my attention to other games for now and we will wait and see what happens next.
The thumbnail of max looking depress really tells you about how devitasting this is. I may not like deck nine for what they did, but still this is sad and emotional 😢
No, don'tnod may had have little layoffs but there still at a good spot, and they are releasing still good games till this day. Also don'tnod layoff 71 of there employees which is not alot, while deck nine is laying off a whole bunch of employees at there studios. And beside everyone is praising don'tnod for there new game coming out soon.
@@Bluejaythesamuri Dontnod are not in a good spot at all, you may think the games are good but did they sell well? And yes, 71 laid off is quite a lot, not to mention the strikes. If Lost Records doesn't succeed it may be it for them.
I mean Dont Nod had also issues and had layoffs not too long ago, and I kinda want to hear why you think Deck Nine is ruining life is strange ? I mean to me they're not that bad even tho it's not perfect
The present don't nod isn't the don't nod that produced the original game as it lost its way and is presently failing as well. SE/DN/D9 have been corrupted to where they can't produce a successful LiS game to save their bottom lines.
Time for a new company for Life is Strange Square needs to fix this to be fair I’m not a fan of the characters design in true colors and totally not a fan of lost records I’m not going to get it but honestly I really love before the storm, life is strange 2 but after those it went down hill for character design and the clothes could be a bit better in double exposures but at least the moogle outfit was epic
I think Deck Nine should have made other non-Life is Strange games, and cut their teeth at improving their writing, before being handed the keys to LiS. Way too risky for a whole franchise to be in their hands. And there was something very arrogant about ignoring how the original creators intended not to mess with LiS1, and just going in and doing whatever they want with Max and murking up a player's personal experience of a masterful stand alone story.
SE/D9 alienated too many customers of the original game. The outline for a commercially successful sequel was EASY and OBVIOUS yet these corporatists refused to do it.
You have to realize that Square Enix has no room to mess around any longer with franchises that simply do not yield much profit and sadly Life is Strange hasn't been delivering for many years. SquareEnix flagships are failing, I can only assume they will cut way more "fat" to make up for their huge losses the past few years. Life is Strange is one of the only remaining western IPs under Squares mantle. If I was SE i would not give D9 another contract risking another flop from the financial perspective.
The only thing that was missing was creativity, and the only one that should be making life is strange is don't nod they really did a good job making LIS1, plus the story is what makes the game good which did didn't write well And in my opinion deck nine needs to up they're game three levels if they don't want their company to shut down😅
Good riddance the people behind DE's mistakes are gone. Feel bad for anyone who did their best and wasn't the cause of DE's issues but the people who are at fault for DE's failure firstly by pissing off a huge part of the fanbase with a horrible handling of bae ending and trying to hide it until the last possible moment (a dev lied and said they'd never do fans wrong in a reply to stuff worrying about Chloe) (which to be fair SE probs didn't help with) and then made the sloppy last half of the game with a direction that is nothing like LiS... they are the cause of DE not doing well thus meaning the whole crew had to be laid off which is awful because D9 didn't get their money they needed from the game. So now many are out of a job because some people made creative choices that made a game fail among fans and players. I doubt SE helped at all, they probs mandated a Max return but D9 could have done way better with it. A Max game could have done very well but just like Clem from TWDG, the continuation is botched and has failed to get everyone on board. However DE isn't as outright bad but did worse while Clem books are probs cheap and still making a profit I'd guess even with their awful reception among fans. Hopefully this however teaches SE and what is left of D9 some harsh lessons so future LiS can be good and respect what came before. DE needs to be retconned away or else LiS is dead to the fans anyway. LiS and Max and Chloe's story is BETTER off if DE NEVER existed which is an awful spot for a game to be in. Money is what most companies listen to and LiS DE not giving it will make them reconsider how to make the next game more successful which DE teaches is not to just tell fans to move on from beloved characters and write them out awfully, or to stray away from what makes LiS, LiS into some setup for something very different and controversial. LiS2 is a different game from liS1 but Dontnod respected what came before with what was shown and the game outright was good. DE has even made some people look back on 2 more fondly as they realise Max returning was an awful idea and what we got from Dontnod was far better. Again I feel bad for the people who lost their jobs who had done their best and didn't cause the issues but the people who are responsible for DE's failures are to blame for everyone else getting laid off which is just bad. I don't want a LiS DE2 anyway so those people who made the issues should find other places more suited for their skills rather than screwing up LiS, if they have a place somewhere they should find it even if it isn't with LiS. People deserve their jobs after all but sometimes it ain't the right one for them.
I've never seen the entire narrative team fired before. It's definitely due to the mixed financial performance as well as the mixed fan reaction. I hope they find new jobs, but I want to quote the firing of the narrative team in their own words: “Sometimes relationships doesn't work out. You need to move on from Chloe.” Sometimes relationships doesn't work out . Their relationship with Square Enix and us didn't work out, and the publisher and us are moving on from them. Irony.
Double exposure is the worst life is strange game, the only way the first three chapters hold up was outside the context of the game, as a whole, as its meant to be played, it is one of the most boring and underwhelming experiences ever, no ambition at all. so closed and lacks variety in the environments, you can literally count the major environments in the game in the fingers of your hands, now compare that with the first game and how huge it was with so many different spaces and themes that were explored. this game is so bad I cannot believe the life is strange franchise stooped this low, deck nine should just give up the ip. they dont deserve it at all, like, just giv eit to someone who deserves it and go do something else thats original.
Look, Life is Strange DE2/5 was never greenlit and people can plan all they want and sequel bait, it doesn't mean it's confirmed. In fact, based on the layoffs, this feels more like Square Enix decided to not move forward with a sequel and Deck Nine laid off people that would have worked on it and couldn't be shifted to other projects. Life is Strange is most likely a dead franchise now, but that's OK. Franchises don't have to continue indefinitely, especially if they were heading in a direction people didn't like. It's OK to let them go and move onto other games.
I could nitpick the story just like anyone who played the game but I think a bigger problem was how they monetized it. 80$ for a deluxe edition & you had to pay to play for the first two episodes? That's crap. I think that's more on square enix than deck nine. That being said, please vote Hannah Telle for best performance even if you don't think hers is the best because this studio needs a win & quite frankly, she deserves it.
Side note: Just what Dom said about the people who got laid off. You are in our thoughts and we hope and wish that you get to new and better positions then this.💜
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@@DomTheBomb The mixed reception is going to really impact any future games coming out and it sucks
the only thing sad is they were gone after DE, not before.
I love LIS games ❤ i already have them all and i will buy new ones if available in the future 🙂
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I didn't actually want them to get fired, I wanted them to listen to our constructive negative feedback and adjust the next game to want we the fans wanted (Chloe and Max handled with respect and not a superhero type looking setup they seemed to want). I hope Square just gives LIS back to DontNod, the DontNod team is always engaging with LIS fans still to this day when we talk about LIS1 and LIS2 and they are better suited to handle the franchise they created.
Dontnod don't want to do life is strange games tho from what I remember
Max is a superhero character though and is well used to explore those tropes in milder, intimate stories like LIS.
Where they are Finding Out is that they stomped all over the most die-hard faithful fans the franchise has; Pricefielders.
They didn’t even have to have Chloe in the damn game, just could have established her off screen for the duration, had some texts, maybe some V/O, and trusted their plot and gameplay not to need romance subplots for Max
@@danieldiaz4084 I think they didn't wanna do more stories with Max and Chloe cause they said the story is complete with those two. Michel Koch always says he wanted to give the players the power to craft your own stories on where they think Max and Chloe's lives would go, the only thing DontNod really says about Pricefield is they're destined to be together forever if you saved Chloe at the end.
@@PricefieldPunk I don’t know about the last part, but yeah they didn’t plan on making another life is strange with max and Chloe which tbh kinda made sense for me since it would have been too difficult with the choice you have to make at the end of life is strange 1 bc it’s difficult to make a game where both ending would be respected, or made sense. When DE trailer got out tbh I wasn’t really thrilled because of that reason but in the end I actually really enjoyed if even tho I always choose to save Chloe, I do think that for the next game they plan (or planned) to have Chloe in it since max kinda mention it in the end of DE (that or she mention that she might be ready to go back at Arcadia bay depending if Chloe is dead or not in your game)
I genuinely think Deck Nine can make a great job for the next game, I mean for me they did a really great job with before the storm and Chloe character at that time so they def could do it again, as much as I want to see Chloe again tho, the new characters were really great, romance option were meh but yeah, let’s hope for the best
@@danieldiaz4084 they didnt wanna do whatever next stupid thing square forced them to do. they wanted creative freedom
The problem with Double Exposure was the story! It felt more like a side quest than an actual sequel to the first game.
Felt like Iron Man 2, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, or Batman V. Superman. Setting up the universe by the end.
To me it just felt like a bad copy of LiS 1. The only thing that was kinda unique about DE was the travelling between two realities, but other than that they used pretty much everything that made LiS 1 unique, except that they couldn't handle the whole ''time travel'' thing just as good as LiS 1, making the story a complete mess. It seems like they thought they could excuse anything with time travel but forgot it has to make actual sense.
i haven't heard much about the story and i don;t want to yet...i haven't got the game i don't want spoilers...but i have heard many people whining about glitches or other grpahical problems and as an expert pointed out in an interview this is a huge marketing mistake; DE is meant to come out for the Switch as well so the last thing we wan to hear is negative feedback that makes Square Enix and Deck Nine think "well hey maybe we should just cancel the Switch version enitrely" and this is eactly what's in their mindset...which is cold and selfish to those of us who have pre-ordered the switch version.
that is what people said about true colors though...it could just be they were rushing through it and not exploring properly...i can't get a hold of a copy of DE but if someone let me play it on their PS5 i will show them how a REAL LIS player should do it (aka spend 30 minutes in every room and talk to every body...then maybe the game will probably feel like a real game)
I don't think so
“This action will have consequences” that is the life is strange motto. I feel like Double Exposure had such a disconnect between fans and the creative team. I’m not saying the fans are always right, but feedback and having knowledge on what your fan base wants to see is a big deal. Obvious things that needed to be handled with care with such a polarizing ending from the first Life Is Strange were not met. These are the consequences of such actions. I do hope all those that have been laid off can still be financially stable, but they did a lot of the continuation of this story wrong and I can’t say I am surprised it has come to this.
technically they did listen but ONLY to ideas that they THINK would make a lot of money. hence the decisions of the ending. no love or care
They could have done better if it wasn't the fight.
They really said “Don’t worry y’all. We fired a bunch of people who contributed to making this mess.”
Don't Nod: You could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you?
Deck Nine: ...
Don't Nod: Back to me.
Dont Nod: When Deck Nine consulted me for Before the Storm and True Colors, I approved. But when Square Enix gave away the rights to Deck Nine, I told them it was unnecessary. That it should belong more to its creator. Otherwise, the franchise would face imminent ramifications. They called me a madman. And what I predicted came to pass.
Cringe dude especially since the game has an avengers style downfall.
@seminolewind158 Glad you understood that reference.
Square Enix definitely needs to give the rights to LiS back to Dontnod and let them create more games in the franchise.
Not happening. They are in collapse mode as well.
If i was Dontnod i wouldnt do it
DON’T NOD are the ones who didn’t wanna do Lis anymore, they wanted to create new games and new stories.
Yes, imo don’t nod are the only studio that can try to fix the mess of de and rewrite everything. Idk any other studio who wants to fix the disaster of de. Just buy lost records in Feb and if it blows up in sales then lis could come back to don’t nod. Even if they don’t want to continue max and Chloe’s story just make another lis game that has references to those characters.
@@engagingweirdo The studio is in trouble. Lost Records may not save it. DONTNOD's workers are striking. How would they even be a good option to have LIS back?
Lets take LIS from one troubled studio and give it another. That is nonsense.
The game itself was beautiful. The art style & music was amazing! The problem was that the game didn’t really feel like life is strange, it felt like just another choice game
Layoffs huh… Y’know, this is exactly what happened over at rocksteady studios. Only thing missing is them hiring SBI in place of those fired positions
I honestly do feel sorry for everyone at Deck Nine that got laid off, especially around this time of year. I hope for the best of them all in the future.
A casual online browsing of LiS cosplay images and videos makes it clear what a successful sequel should have looked like.
Chloe should have been Max's roommate if Arcadia Bay was sacrificed. Warren could be Max's roommate if Chloe was sacrificed. It all could have been that simple.
no i wouldn't like that personally. the whole point is to forget the past and move on, i think they did an enough good job
@@parsaocean "Forget the past and move on" *proceeds to bring back the original main character to make a bunch of money*
It's wild to me how Warren was completely disregarded in DE too. Like if you saved the Bay you'd think Warren would have some kinda role in DE, i know there's ppl out there who do ship Gramfield and D9 was like nah forget him too lmao
That sounds awful
or they could of had the game to just be only cannon to 1 timeline where cloe got sacrificed because the chloe still alive already has a cannon sequel which is the comics.
all the developers have to say that they support different timelines as cannon hence both choices are cannon and both will have their own stories to tell, heck they could of done 2 games. in the future 1 for each of the end choices.
would make them a lot of money. its really not hard to think of something like that
Square Enix London is doing a player survey today, which suggests they have no real plans to end the series.
I see you with the Long Road Ahead track from LiS2 in the background Dom🐐🐺
real i like warren better than chloe anyway
I read an article recently about Deck9’s working culture. Beyond the horrible working culture (crunch, bullying etc), it talked about how the narrative team was unhappy with the direction DE was taking at multiple points, but the former CCO (who was there until as late as April 2024) didn’t listen to them and took decision making away from the narrative team as a response.
It’s sad that it’s the narrative team being let go, and not the executives who (according to the news) seem to be the root of the problem with DE. Of course it’s not a single person’s fault, but in my head the meddling hands of the executives explains why the first chapter are so much higher quality than the last two.
If you wanna read about it just look up “decknine working culture” and the things I’m saying specifically were in a eurogamer article.
I found the article, and tho this was about True Colors, I think it’s good insight.
“ IGN reports Garriss later "distanced himself" from the narrative team, working with another lead to "make most of the story decisions, rewriting work from other writers without allowing them the opportunity to give feedback, even on stories centring marginalised characters." “
When a company has multiple layoffs, that’s an issue with management. The business plan is not working.
I enjoyed TC a lot more than DE and that is coming from a huge LIS fan. With DE, they really fumbled chapters 4 and 5
I think the opposite chapters 1-3 were so annoying and repetitive that I almost didn’t finish it. Chapters 4-5 are the best part of the game.
@@mitchsledge9295nope chapters 1-3 weren’t annoying and repetitive they were was great and 4 and 5 weren’t the best part of the game they were too short
TC is what gave me hope for DE lmao i liked TC but maybe thats cause i had zero expectations with all brand new characters. If you bring Max back you are putting so much pressure on yourself cause the fandoms had 8 years to imagine what Max's life was like After the storm with Chloe or after she sacrificed Chloe.
@@mitchsledge9295 what are you smoking man
I didn’t like either of them. They just have no identity. Deck Nine just doesn’t have any imagination🤷🏽♂️
I think what they did with Chloe was far from the only issue of this game so to be short:
Safi was a horrible person, and I didn't get a chance to refuse her, or shoot her because decline her offer in the end wasn't satisfying enough
There were plenty of times when the game forced me to do things: best example was when I had to expose Lucas meanwhile I thought talk to him first and not follow the karen's plan who just broke into Max's house
Safi's motivation of revenge for that girl was just hollow, we cared for Rachel because everyone was talking about her, that girl was just brought up twice before suddenly I had to evenge her death by her own hand. For all I new she could've been a horrible person
The romance options was generic and boring (the guy was kinda fun but he still had to replace Chloe, and he made me realise, Warren was actually a great romance option)
The storm was weak. In the first one it destroy everything and now it was barely an inconvenience.
The choices in the end didn't matter. I couldn't shoot Safi, but even the town's folk fate was the same.
The cat didn't sit in Max's lap ONCE
The two timelines emerged in the end dodging the possibility of a really cool choice of choosing between the two
And the worst of it all the superpowers became the focus. Life is strange wether it's about Max or Chloe or Alex, even Sean, it's suppose to be an emotional journey.
It's the same thing when Game of Thrones started to be about dragons and not men plotting in dark rooms and women scheming in beatiful gardens. (I just started reading the books instead, join me in this, it's great)
Marvel's shared universe it's probably on their way out ny now, but back in the day they didn't just brought superheroes together, they also built a threat for them to face
So creating a team of gay superpowered girls is just the wrong way for the franchise to go.
To make it clear I agree that it's horrible for these people to lose their job, but I'm glad that this vision of Life is strange just not likely to happen.
I feel the same way. Safi was the worst character I’ve seen in any Life is Strange game. I hated that we couldn’t set boundaries with her and how Max was so obsessed with her. She was a horrible person. Also, I think Warren ended up looking way better in comparison to Vinh. Vinh is not someone Max would realistically be interested in. The love interests in this game just weren’t very good.
I think double exposure was rushed. I think they were in the middle of making the game when the crunch hours and such happened. So I feel they lost a lot of workers as well as a lot of money because of that so they had to rush the game. And now with the layoffs. I really hope that they make at least one more game to finish the series.
It feels like with DE they steered heavy in Bay fans and people that said Pricefield was toxic and doomed to fail. They said they were gonna respect both endings of Lis1, only to lie and make a game that was tailor built for the Bay ending. They lied blatantly and it backfired so hard and alienate so many existing fans that they had to layoff a huge batch of people.
Man I really didn’t know this game did that bad…the last to chapters lost me, but I was still pretty excited to see what happened next 😢
@@cricketexperience778 it was so rushed. It went from 0 to 10,000 real quick. It's like they didn't have time to finish without delaying the game further.
As a longtime fan of the series, this is a deeply sad time to be living in. (Also apologies in advance for a really long comment)
I didn't love True Colors (I thought it was alright, if a little forgettable), but I also didn't hate it as much as Before the Storm (for too many reasons to go into here). I was really hopeful that Deck Nine would be able to bring us a worthwhile continuation of Max's story. And they had some good ideas early on. Like, there's an (seemingly evil) alternate reality Max running around? Characters seemingly having doppelgangers that are ruining their lives? A REALLY engaging puzzle of Max jumping between timelines to find a piece of evidence before a detective can? I loooooved what Deck Nine was cooking up here. But over the last two episodes, they didn't just NOT stick the landing - they crashed and burned spectacularly. The story is full of inconsistencies and plot holes, not only about Max's new and old powers, but character motivations. Settings and scenarios are seemingly pulled straight from older games (attending a party in Ep4, thrown by a morally questionable club where shit goes down/finding out a male teacher has mistreated his students/having an obligatory "reality is breaking" sequence in the last episode). An entire character (the detective, Vince Alderman) is introduced and then seemingly erased from existence with no follow-up. The whole mystery of who killed Safi is thrown out the window after Ep3 in pursuit of avenging a character we never even meet, who seems to exist only to be the victim of the school's administration. The confounding "final choice" and the ambiguous ending seems to set up an MCU-style, X-Men-esque sequel. The new characters are, for the most part, painfully one-note and uninteresting. Neither of the ham-fisted "romance options" interested me in the slightest. Vinh is an arrogant dickhead, and Amanda is just...there. (I actually forgot her name and had to look it up just now.) Really, there are too many story issues to mention and this comment will already be paragraphs long.
The cherry on top of Deck Nine's mishandling of the story is how they shrugged off Chloe. Now I don't know how DE frames the Bay ending and honestly I don't have enough interesting in replaying it to find out. But I chose the Bae ending and I was curious how the writing staff would "respect" that ending, in their words. Turns out they didn't respect it at all. The story arbitrarily decides that Max and Chloe break up at some point because Chloe can't handle Max being hung up on the past or something (which is kind of wild given how dedicated Max was to Chloe). Max even admits that they had a "big fight" but has no details on what it was about. Instead of having Chloe away for a job/busy visiting David/being a long-distance partner for whatever reason, DE's story just writes her out completely while still letting us see pointless social media updates from her with no means of reaching out to her. And in the ending I witness in DE, Moses asks if Max is ready to stop running from the blue-haired girl (or something to that effect), which threw me for an even bigger loop. How on earth did the Deck Nine team think they would be able to follow up on Chloe in a later game after completely sidelining her character in this one?? Just ... absolutely bonkers.
And for what it's worth, I'm sure Square Enix's meddling is how we got the outrageously overpriced DLC that was a few "meh" alternate outfits (which changed Max's hair and makeup for no reason) and "cat content" that was just a few moments throughout the game which could easily be cut out. None of this helps the fundamental failure DE is as a sequel - now it's just a vastly overpriced sequel with overpriced cosmetics.
My best case scenario is DONTNOD is allowed to take control of the games again and either somehow fix the mess D9 made of Max's story, or do something completely new (in line with their original "anthology" approach to the series).
personally true colors is my favorite in the franchise but probaly due to bias on what they do. but this game was VERY dissapointing. worst game in the franchise, not a bad game, just dissapointing
@@joeymag593 There won’t be a sequel. This is a total Franchise KILLER. Gwen’s only feature is she’s trans. The physics dude’s only feature is he’s black. What a bigot game.
I dislike Double Exposure, but what’s happened to the employees at Deck Nine is horrible. The AAA-ness of Deck Nine and their relationship to Square Enix is not a good environment for the “Life is Strange” IP or the people that work there.
I don't understad, how to you find a job in the industry when all the companies are firing people?
@@JackCabrero You don’t. The gaming industry is hella toxic.
I don’t even care after double exposure we don’t need a sequel to that
No offence but speak for yourself
@@imory4492 if they hire new writing team itll be good the writers hated chloe if they brought chloe back itll be good
@@imory4492exactly 💯
@@imory4492i'm ngl it's because of people like you who encourage the milking of this franchise that we're stuck in this mess
@@rocketstrke yeah i agree i feel like the entire writing team hating a fan favorite character probably isn't good for the franchise lmao
Well... I am again in the phase where I am playing (or at least trying to do so) the old 10-ish game with really nice music and in the meantime the game franchise grew up into something big and pricy (at least on consoles). Now it is sad for me to hear that the franchise of my childhood... may die in a few months... Yes the SE may "gift" this project to other people, however... it would be another game, with others person view on this piece, and it is still sad that the game and the people behind it are having a rough time during the holiday time.
the fact they wanna blame “the industry” instead of the game makes me feel like they’ve learned nothing and the next LiS will be just as bad and undeserving of my money.
I've always believed deck nine made worse LIS games. Dot nod made them more balanced and engaging to wider audiences. Deck Nine seems like they made a rookie attempt at a veteran concept of storytelling and speaking to a ln audience with a wide range of beliefs. Tru colors was thier best attemp but even that just didn't connect. I played it because of my love for the Dot Nod games definitely not before the storm.
They should make a complete different sequel by DONTNOD at this point i think(even though it is unlikely). Because i want to believe that the director of this game who has been fired created a complete story including the next game, and it is really hard to tell from this game what he had in his mind. So any new director won't be able to complete this one properly if he/she don't know about that complete story.
I mean, the writers themselves admitted that at a certain point they wrote themselves into a dead end and at times no longer knew how to continue the story... Apart from the fact that a sequel to a long-finished story was doomed to failure from the beginning, I didn't expect it would be this bad...
Layoffs are always terrible. But if you really want to fix the mess that the writers have caused, then something has to happen... But I think no matter what you do, this story can't be saved even with a sequel and a new writing team...
Sad indeed for life is strange let’s hope lost records picks up the spot to fill in 😢
Life is Strange Double Exposure walked so Lost Records Bloom & Rage could run
Considering they ignore their play testers critism about the story ending up not that good at the end, ignore concerns from the fans, and how the making of the game is felt with mostly the lack of love and care from greedy executives
oh yeah I also forgot to mention the misleading marketing in which didnt even explain what the game was MAINLY about. it was just bait
no wonder they are doing terribly. honestly i hope this is a wake up call for them
How did they expect DE to succeed after hating on a fan favorite character like Chole .
Most Life is Strange fandom hates Chloe because they are toxic people.
It's crazy how right that leak was (apart from the Chloe appearance). For me Ep 1 was boring (but I accepted it at the time as part of the build up), 2 and 3 were great, but 4 and 5 were so bad. It's like they forgot their own story half way through writing it.
Such a shame :/
I'm honestly not even shocked and surprisingly like as much as I would have loved to see more I think I've had stuff like this happen so many times where universes are promising stuff that they will never deliver on that I'm no longer affected by it.
I say Before The Storm was better than Double Exposure
I think they are close in my personal opinion
I bet Diamond is going to be the lead in the next game with Max having a supportive role as “A Return”
Maybe
Thank you Dom I been with you for many yrs and you help my anxiety. Ughh the problem with Double exposure is it doesn't draw us emotionally and no real shock fact. The characters are NOT interesting. LifEisStrange3 was Good I actually cried with u. Several scenes of powerful emotions and situations were evoked. Charlotte's anger scene is just 1 that blew us away. Safi isn't really interesting. We needed Chole pretty bad. Welp back to the original creators DONTNOD. Bloom and rage looks amazing and gives me the old Life is strange feels that they created.
Glad to help 💙
I remember the controversies around LIS2 and how it wasn't the game people wanted. And now people are turning around and saying it's a masterpiece. Granted, I thought it had an undeserved bad reputation back then, but I also think people are being hypocrites. Wouldn't surprise me if the next game did a u turn on everything DE was, played it ridiculously safe, and then people realized that DE being bold and controversial was actually a good thing, even if the execution was poor at times
This is sad. I rlly don’t wanna see a repeat of the telltale situation with this franchise. Lis has helped me through heartbreak,anxiety,overall sadness and emotional/mental health the fact that things are going the way they are is even more tragic
I'm Looking Forward To Lost Records: Bloom and Rage
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Great video and input on the situation man. While i’m not necessarily fond of DeckNine it does suck to see people lose their jobs around this time especially. Hoping they can quickly pick up work again at a place that appreciates their talents to the fullest extent.
Thanks Keon hope you doing well!
i’m confused, are youtubers getting paid to promote double exposure or something? Are they trying to avoid severing a partnership? i’m noticing so much resistance to calling double exposure for what is is - a bad game. I love the series as much as everyone else. But come on, it’s pissing me off to see you and other creators dance around it so much
How exactly would you say I’m dancing around it when I’ve expressed in this video that Double Exposure to a degree did flop and Deck Nine really needs to improve
"Max caoulfield will return" Then imeditly go bankroupt would be sorta funny.
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Damn, didn’t realize it was this bad. I bought the game a few days ago and just beat it. I thought the game wasn’t that bad, however those last 2 episodes were ehh imo. Hopefully they can still continue this franchise, I do have fun playing through these games.
Ya know, are people who are into Pricefield perhaps too into it? Maybe. But they're also the fans who've kept LiS alive as a franchise for ten years with Fanfiction, artwork, and all sorts of other things. Ya look at AO3, 8k fanfictions or so for LiS, and like 3.6k of those have Max and Chloe together. Fanfiction as well has like 3k LiS stories with like at least 1.5k of them having Chloe and Max in them. I dunno who looked at that and said, ya know what they would really like? Breaking them up. People who sacrificed Chloe/saved Arcadia Bay don't really care about what happens after. I've seen very little to no one complain about how it basically received the same treatment. Max talks to literally no one. Not Kate, Warren, Dana, Victoria, no one.
Anyone who did 5 minutes of research could tell you that Max and Chloe are the most popular couple in the LiS franchise. LiS much as I love the series is a niche game with a limited audience, and limited ability to gain new fans. Whoever decided that pissing off half the fan base if the stats at the end of liS1, and the remaster are anything to go by, was a dumb decision and D9/SE have only themselves to blame. And yes some people have overreacted with threats and harassment that they shouldn't have. But they also aren't the ones who burned the bridge down either.
They might get bought out and absorbed by a bigger studio. I still think there will be another game. The question is, will it be a shell of its former self.
I was ready to beat it once I hit the 5th episode.
As a Huge LiS fan - DE doesn't deserve any votes for the game like this. Any.
Ultimately with the studio on the rocks Max Canfield is all Deck Nine has, now more than ever
The director got fired is so messed up...
I need the game to be own by a different game developer company, and remake double exposure. It felt rushed and move away from the chole and max relationship. The “choices that matters” do not matter. It sucked as you kept playing. I like the ending episode cliff hangers. But the story went out flat and trash
There are infinite timelines when it comes to LiS. In this timeline Max and Chloe just separated. The way the game presented it makes sense to me. Max is responsible for the hundreds of lives lost to the storm cus she wanted to save one person and Chloe is the person that a town was sacrificed for. Save a whole city or 1 person, there’s only one reasonable answer and that’s the city. I save the Bae btw and I will do it again but my point is, im not mad at the games portrayal of Max and Chloe’s relationship in the game
Why did Don’tnod even sell life is strange to Deck Nine in the first place??
Square Enix is the publisher they own the franchise them and DON'T NOD had a fallout so they gave it to Deck Nine!
@ Wooow that’s crazy. Nobody can replicate wat Don’t Nod did with lis 1 and 2. Im lookin forward to Bloom and Rage tho.
This is a huge problem that I probably expected. I never got to play double exposure because of the endless bugs on the pc port and I ended up just uninstalling just until something happens if it does. The fact they waited about 2/3 months to fix the loading screen bug but the lag is still happening on the menu and in the main game is crazy. The toxic culture and the lay offs over the last few years just speaks for itself. But all that being said I'm still a huge fan of the life is strange franchise and hopefully one day I will get to play the new one.
I'm turning my attention to other games for now and we will wait and see what happens next.
Double exposure is actually pretty good I hope you will get the chance to play it soon when they'll fix the bug!
@danieldiaz4084 I appreciate it. Hopefully it's sooner rather than later, but I can see it being in 2025.
Nah its perfect if they cant make a story properly then its better to just let the franchise die as a legend and not ruin it by making stupid sequels
@@a_roxtech723 That's true but it would be sad to see it die but it's right choice.
Im curious about sales reports of the game Im also curious about square enix involvement here too
The thumbnail of max looking depress really tells you about how devitasting this is. I may not like deck nine for what they did, but still this is sad and emotional 😢
Bro I saw both of those directors talking about the game a few months ago. And now they’re both laid off. Cooked 😭
Crazy 😭😭
I think its square enixs call at the end of the day, they own the life is strange licence
The only way they can save the series/franchise is hard reboot throw everything other than the first game out.
I think it’s sad but also funny at the same time that they threw the team in the trash, hopefully square will switch teams
I used to dream of max meeting the wolf brothers somehow
DONTNOD is near collapse as well. They have made very similar mistakes as D9. You cannot release 4 flops in a row.
No, don'tnod may had have little layoffs but there still at a good spot, and they are releasing still good games till this day. Also don'tnod layoff 71 of there employees which is not alot, while deck nine is laying off a whole bunch of employees at there studios. And beside everyone is praising don'tnod for there new game coming out soon.
@@Bluejaythesamuri Dontnod are not in a good spot at all, you may think the games are good but did they sell well? And yes, 71 laid off is quite a lot, not to mention the strikes. If Lost Records doesn't succeed it may be it for them.
I think they rushed out DE so it would debut before Bloom and Rage. That’s why the last episodes are so rushed
Doubt it Lost Records was pushed back because of DE not what you are suggesting
@@DomTheBomb gotcha. Deck Nine should have pushed DE back like Bloom and Rage then.
Doms face cam on we are not messing around
Deck nine is ruining this amazing game series don't nod needs to return and save the life is strange franchise 😭 I don't want to say goodbye
I mean Dont Nod had also issues and had layoffs not too long ago, and I kinda want to hear why you think Deck Nine is ruining life is strange ? I mean to me they're not that bad even tho it's not perfect
The present don't nod isn't the don't nod that produced the original game as it lost its way and is presently failing as well. SE/DN/D9 have been corrupted to where they can't produce a successful LiS game to save their bottom lines.
it is not mid, the story here is crap also gameplay with this kind of powers, what are less interesting that rime rewind, is even not opened fully
Who else isn’t able to play the other chapters on console 😢
Damn really?
It's pretty wild. I feel bad for the devs, but I hope the franchise survives and comes back strong.
Time for a new company for Life is Strange Square needs to fix this to be fair I’m not a fan of the characters design in true colors and totally not a fan of lost records I’m not going to get it but honestly I really love before the storm, life is strange 2 but after those it went down hill for character design and the clothes could be a bit better in double exposures but at least the moogle outfit was epic
I think everyone here is forgetting theres another big player here, Square enix
I think Deck Nine should have made other non-Life is Strange games, and cut their teeth at improving their writing, before being handed the keys to LiS. Way too risky for a whole franchise to be in their hands.
And there was something very arrogant about ignoring how the original creators intended not to mess with LiS1, and just going in and doing whatever they want with Max and murking up a player's personal experience of a masterful stand alone story.
Very dumb question maybe, but why can’t they give the lis franchise back to dontnod?
Square enix own life is strange, Don't nod and Square enix had a falling out
I can't feel sorry for people who destroy a masterpiece.
SE/D9 alienated too many customers of the original game. The outline for a commercially successful sequel was EASY and OBVIOUS yet these corporatists refused to do it.
You have to realize that Square Enix has no room to mess around any longer with franchises that simply do not yield much profit and sadly Life is Strange hasn't been delivering for many years. SquareEnix flagships are failing, I can only assume they will cut way more "fat" to make up for their huge losses the past few years. Life is Strange is one of the only remaining western IPs under Squares mantle. If I was SE i would not give D9 another contract risking another flop from the financial perspective.
Should've let Don't Nod just do it...
Sadly Square and DON’T NOD’s relationship is cooked
The only thing that was missing was creativity, and the only one that should be making life is strange is don't nod they really did a good job making LIS1, plus the story is what makes the game good which did didn't write well
And in my opinion deck nine needs to up they're game three levels if they don't want their company to shut down😅
Good riddance the people behind DE's mistakes are gone. Feel bad for anyone who did their best and wasn't the cause of DE's issues but the people who are at fault for DE's failure firstly by pissing off a huge part of the fanbase with a horrible handling of bae ending and trying to hide it until the last possible moment (a dev lied and said they'd never do fans wrong in a reply to stuff worrying about Chloe) (which to be fair SE probs didn't help with) and then made the sloppy last half of the game with a direction that is nothing like LiS... they are the cause of DE not doing well thus meaning the whole crew had to be laid off which is awful because D9 didn't get their money they needed from the game. So now many are out of a job because some people made creative choices that made a game fail among fans and players. I doubt SE helped at all, they probs mandated a Max return but D9 could have done way better with it. A Max game could have done very well but just like Clem from TWDG, the continuation is botched and has failed to get everyone on board. However DE isn't as outright bad but did worse while Clem books are probs cheap and still making a profit I'd guess even with their awful reception among fans.
Hopefully this however teaches SE and what is left of D9 some harsh lessons so future LiS can be good and respect what came before. DE needs to be retconned away or else LiS is dead to the fans anyway. LiS and Max and Chloe's story is BETTER off if DE NEVER existed which is an awful spot for a game to be in. Money is what most companies listen to and LiS DE not giving it will make them reconsider how to make the next game more successful which DE teaches is not to just tell fans to move on from beloved characters and write them out awfully, or to stray away from what makes LiS, LiS into some setup for something very different and controversial. LiS2 is a different game from liS1 but Dontnod respected what came before with what was shown and the game outright was good. DE has even made some people look back on 2 more fondly as they realise Max returning was an awful idea and what we got from Dontnod was far better.
Again I feel bad for the people who lost their jobs who had done their best and didn't cause the issues but the people who are responsible for DE's failures are to blame for everyone else getting laid off which is just bad. I don't want a LiS DE2 anyway so those people who made the issues should find other places more suited for their skills rather than screwing up LiS, if they have a place somewhere they should find it even if it isn't with LiS. People deserve their jobs after all but sometimes it ain't the right one for them.
For me personally if they don't bring back Chloe I don't want it
They will get another studio.
Maybe
as big of a fan of the franchise i am, bring back don't nod or just kill it off, i couldn't care less if its not don't nod ngl
other than before the storm, that was goated!
I feel bad they lost their job for Christmas but not surprised. This game was bad, so it is hard as Hannah carried the whole game.
I've never seen the entire narrative team fired before. It's definitely due to the mixed financial performance as well as the mixed fan reaction.
I hope they find new jobs, but I want to quote the firing of the narrative team in their own words:
“Sometimes relationships doesn't work out. You need to move on from Chloe.”
Sometimes relationships doesn't work out . Their relationship with Square Enix and us didn't work out, and the publisher and us are moving on from them. Irony.
yeah, I got tired of the game after #3. 4 and 5 were just meh. LOL, I didn't finish the game.
Actually wolf among us 2 isn’t cancel
I hope not
wow that's just terrible. thx for letting us know n thx for the vid
Double exposure is the worst life is strange game, the only way the first three chapters hold up was outside the context of the game, as a whole, as its meant to be played, it is one of the most boring and underwhelming experiences ever, no ambition at all. so closed and lacks variety in the environments, you can literally count the major environments in the game in the fingers of your hands, now compare that with the first game and how huge it was with so many different spaces and themes that were explored. this game is so bad I cannot believe the life is strange franchise stooped this low, deck nine should just give up the ip. they dont deserve it at all, like, just giv eit to someone who deserves it and go do something else thats original.
Could you keep adding the FaceCam in there
Only in important videos
@DomTheBomb I understand 👍
Double exposure flopped deck nine ruined it people can agree to disagree with me
@@MorrisGames200 Ok not bad but they could have done before the storm again or after the storm could have been better.
Don’t nod
Their games are shittytttttt
Deck 9 to join Deck 13 game studios.....maybe...lol 😊😊
Look, Life is Strange DE2/5 was never greenlit and people can plan all they want and sequel bait, it doesn't mean it's confirmed. In fact, based on the layoffs, this feels more like Square Enix decided to not move forward with a sequel and Deck Nine laid off people that would have worked on it and couldn't be shifted to other projects. Life is Strange is most likely a dead franchise now, but that's OK. Franchises don't have to continue indefinitely, especially if they were heading in a direction people didn't like. It's OK to let them go and move onto other games.
I could nitpick the story just like anyone who played the game but I think a bigger problem was how they monetized it. 80$ for a deluxe edition & you had to pay to play for the first two episodes? That's crap. I think that's more on square enix than deck nine. That being said, please vote Hannah Telle for best performance even if you don't think hers is the best because this studio needs a win & quite frankly, she deserves it.
Im just mad that this franchise is so woke now that I don't even care about the future of Decknine.
Woke is such a misused word at this point.
Side note: Just what Dom said about the people who got laid off. You are in our thoughts and we hope and wish that you get to new and better positions then this.💜
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Lis 2 was the best
@makandalp Your entitled to your opinion but mine is definitely Lis
In what world
LiS2 is amazing. LiS1 and 2 are basically the only good games in the series the rest have been trash.
Underrated gem 🔥🐺
Layoffs are necessary when you do a terrible job. 😂