Long before the US Air Force joined in the action, the RCAF were contributing greatly. They fought in the Battle of Britain. Everyone seems to forget or overlook the Canadian contribution.
It is not only the soldiers and aircrews that are overlooked. The Canadian women also contributed, working in the factories to build the bombers that the English needed. But what for? To help the Poles that tried to seize Chechoslovakia and were fascistic as well?
My father was a B-24 pilot in the 15th, logged 30 missions over Nazi territory. Gen. Leon Johnson, Medal Of Honor winner (Ploesti) gave him his Air Medal one day in Foggia. Dad said it was a slow day to hand out medals. Years later he ran into Johnson in a hotel lobby, asked him if he thought strategic bombing helped shorten the war. Johnson said the only thing he was certain was that it killed a lot of fine young men and civilians. I saw an interview with Johnson years ago where he basically said the same thing.
What a shame that the comments section for such a high quality documentary series is so littered with so many low rent, bargain basement comments from people who don't know a good series when they see one. I have to wonder if any of them even watched the show. Do not read the comments here if you value your sanity.
+TheThirdMan I agree....hands-down the best WW2 documentary series ever made and yet we get chronic complainers. I wonder if these perfectionists demand the same exacting standards in their own lives and treatment of their fellow man...? Maybe we could learn from history, calm the runaway emotions, and make a better world...one person and one moment at a time.
+TheThirdMan It's sad.. I kno, cuz I grew up buffeting against this.. they were raised on Showmanship & pretty graphix! Mythbusters, ftw eh! ..What half-ass'd pseudo-Science they employ many times. Ive actually DEBUNKED SOME OF THEIR DEBUNKING BY PERFORMING THE EXPERIENMENT PROPER AND MULTIPLE TIMES. (yes im a bit embittered these days; but u would be too once If you allow urself to see the world for what it truly has become)
+Ronald Tartaglia It's too bad tho :/ that we need to go Nuclear Option.. Whatever happened to the cattle-ranchers? I seen them die our the past decade. both in Comments & On The road. Sheepple luv to help tha Lemmings. n00b-gen ftw. Troll-tech is tha new world order!
Another installment of the best ww2 series of all. Clear and concise, good battle footage and not cluttered with all the 'I was there' interviews. Two thumbs up.
The Germans did develop a heavy bomber, the Heinkel He 177 Greif. It was a 4-engine bomber, where the engines were packed into two nacelles instead of four. This was done to maximize efficiency of parts and lower building costs. Over 1,000 were built. The bomber suffered problems from overheating.
It was a mess, and some of that could be attributed to unreasonable demands...like making every bomber the Luftwaffe had be also a dive-bomber. (Except maybe the He111?) They probably could have built something like 10 FW-190s for every He177, a plane that just sucked resources without any real results.
@@dougcastleman9518u are aware that hermany lost cause of not enough equipment and men but because of lack of resources, ie NO oil and fuel.. germany made enough equipment abd had enough manpower.
@rickmoreno6858 you do know that you need oil and coal to produce items industrially. Then you need that to transport said items. But there were supply and even quality issues towards the end of the war. Look at early war items in quality compared to late war. K98s are a great example or even uniform items or web gear. Manpower was at a huge premium by wars end. If they had manpower, then why did Germany need to use Hitler Youth enlistment? By 1944, Allied forces were capturing 16 year old soldiers in France. Plus it didn't help that we bombed the fuck out of their factories.
This German bomber suffered in the design false by the need for all German bombers to be capable of dive bombing. That's why the twin engines in two nacelles, making engine field maintenance extremely difficult. Much of its use during the war was as a heavy transport, especially during the Stalingrad resupply operation of the German 6th army. And the design of the twin engines were not simple,and the need to add dive brakes greatly slowed the development and introduction of this aircraft.
These documentaries are so important to understand what war was really like. I don't show many movies in my History class...these are some of what I show. Thank you for posting Th
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Churchill once said that the Canadian Army defending the beaches allowed him to sleep at night. Bomber Command was a useless, BS producing, results. A few of these bombers on long range patrol over Atlantic Convoy routes would have been best for the Allied effort. Churchill was horrified to learn depth charges were denied aluminum powder used in bombs. RAF night bombing was horribly inaccurate. Initally, so much countryside was hit by mistake, it was known as the Great Cow Slaughter. Germans thought it an attack on child nutrition. Remarkably accurate descriptions of RAF bombing, strategy, accuracy, and humanity. It must be said that German strategies demanded cruelty in place of adequate weapons and supplies. Once Luftwaffe bombers obliterated Warsaw, Rotterdam, London, Coventry, Belgrade, beginning with Guernica.
My grandfather used to go to Germany from England during WWII. Said he didn't like Germany a whole lot. He never stopped in Germany, he just turned around and came back to England.
I know you can't possibly touch on all the many British bombers, but surely when discussing the Strategic Bombing Campaign, you should have mentioned the Halifax. The Mosquito also deserved a mention.
You say "you" like it's the person that uploaded it who is responsible. They clearly state in the description it's not their content and they don't own it. These documentaries are from the 90's lol, they're old.
Britain and America lost many good men in the skies over Europe. The American bombers, closely formed and very heavily armed, bravely flew daytime sorties and were exposed to everything the Nazi defenders could throw at them. The RAF took over at night and once their bombers were picked out by searchlights they attracted heavy flack and were attacked night fighters. Both air forces used different tactics to defend their aircraft from fighters. The American B17s, armed with many heavy machine guns, stoically flew on in close formation, their gunfire providing mutual protection. The RAF's Lancasters more sparsely formed and with fewer machineguns, and of lighter calibre, went into a corkscrew dive reaching speeds of 300 mph plus, which could only be done when their bomb bays were empty. Both American and British bombers would be harassed on the way to their targets and then all the way home by fighters and anti-aircraft fire from the ground. We owe these brave men our thanks. The world would be a very different place today if they hadn't fought and died on our behalf.
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job making it easier for viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. Historians did a very good job presenting actual facts from fiction. Orator presented the documentary very well. Class A research project. Rough combat operations on both sides. Special thanks to the allied forces who fought/perished/survived fighting the enemy forces. Who made this documentary possible!!! Had the French & British confronted Germany instead of engaging in the " phoney " war. Perhaps WW2 wouldn't have escalated into the horrible catastrophe that it did. Therefore who was actually responsible for the war in Europe.The aggressors or the anti aggressors. The above happens with weak/mentally disabled leaders like Chamberlain. Costing millions their lives!!!
B-24 Liberators were tiring to fly, at least according to those who actually did so. The plane apparently had a strong tendency to yaw to the pilot's right due to engine torque and required constant correction. I saw a war era cartoon depicting B-24 pilots as being immediately identifiable by their overdeveloped left arms, the consequence of having to compensate for the starboard yaw. While these were the most widely produced American heavy bombers, they couldn't take the same level of punishment that the B-17 could. I have to say that the surviving crews that flew in B-24s remembered them very fondly.
Dr. Death Thank you. I can only go by what I've read and how my late step-dad explained some peculiarities of various planes. He flew in WWII (B-26), Korea (F-86) and Vietnam ("Puff", a specifically modified C-47). Given his experience, he probably didn't know what he was talking about.
+Melanie Hamilton Well my grandfather was a B-17 pilot that flew in the 100th bomb group (Bloody 100th). I still have his war diaries, they tried making his group switch to B-24's and their big concern wasn't yaw it was fire. Given that your step dad didn't fly B-24's I don't see how he could comment on them. For instance just because he flew a Sabre could he comment on the F9F?
+Melanie Hamilton The B-24 was built not far from me at Willow Run, Mi. (They called it will it run) Edsel Ford died of stomach cancer. However, many think the B-24 Liberator was a contributing factor. A gigantic facility, they envisioned turning out Liberators like Fords. I know the Liberator had the nick name "widow maker"
I Flick It was amazing how many of those bombers were built at Willow Run (wasn't aware of the nickname which is actually pretty funny). I can't get enough history and trivia about WWII. Such a massive worldwide effort. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. Love this stuff.
I'm from the USA, yet I know that the Soviets paid the greatest price and made the biggest difference in the outcome of the WWII, especially in Europe. Yeah, we sent them war machines, food, etc., but they provided the manpower, the actual bodies. I have no problem giving them the credit they deserve. Their own war machines were pretty damned impressive (T34 tanks leap to mind) and their war production churned out huge numbers of tanks, planes, weapons. No one should have the temerity to invade Mother Russia. The hubris of the Nazis was a major factor in their defeat. The USA didn't win the war by itself. It was a combined effort, okay?
Le civin You're being very kind in reference to Stalin. He was 'round the bend crazy! A really scary guy. Amazing that he was only 5'4". Did you know that he got manicures? Isn't that a scream?
Not bad for a programme that was made 13 years ago,when the History channel actually commissioned historical series rather than the junk they serve up these days.
World War 2 was total war, and everything and everybody a potential target. If you are not victorious, however, your actions will be considered genocide, but if you are the victor, your actions can be overlooked, especially if your the one doing the looking.
Nazis feeling sorry for themselves----its not fair that nazis kill and kill and then people fight back--they are so cruel to fight back --poor nazis -that kept fighting even after dresden--nazis are really the heroes of worst crimes of humanity too bad the allies didnt bomb and destroy the whole place to get rid of the nazi tumor forever--now the germans voted them back into their gov---cause they never stopped being nazis
44:47 They're talking about B-17s, but I'm pretty sure that shot is from a B-26 Marauder, given the dihedral of the tailplane and top turret right next to it.
Hitler could never make a go of it as a painter, but now his artistic talent is appreciated and his works command high prices on the rare occasions when they are auctioned.
If you think hitlers paintings sell because of his artistic talent they sell because he was one of the biggest mass murderers in world history that is what his talent was
This is all very interesting and I believe accurate. I do have one problem though. In listing the British 4 engine aircraft used, where is mention of the Handley Paige Halifax? My grandfather flew his tours as navigator in this bomber as part of 425 Squadron, 6 Group, RCAF, Bomber Command and flew until the end of the war.
+elizabeth BERUBE I'm afraid the Avro Lancaster got most of the glory in Harris' air offensive on Germany but of course the Halifax played its part in a campaign that still generates fierce debate.
The Luftwaffe was a well-trained group, but they had a fool as their leader. Fat Boy Goering, in his infinite wisdom, decided that Germany didn't need heavy bombers. He was sure that their medium range machines would do the job. Wrong. He also didn't figure on other countries developing fighters superior to his. When, during the Battle of Britain, he asked his top ace Galland what he needed to defeat the British, Galland replied "Spitfires". Our P-51s, P-47s and P-38s weren't exactly shabby either. Whatever you think of our B-17s, they could take an incredible amount of abuse and still get home. We lost so many bomber crews in Europe. Tough to watch those planes go down with their 10-man crews. Very sad reality of war.
I agree with every point you've made. Everyone blinked, as you correctly stated. Germany and Japan got the drop on us. I realize that Western Europe was still exhausted, physically and mentally, from WWI, but it's never a good idea to deny what's in front of your eyes simply because you don't want to believe it. Poor old France had lost more soldiers and civilians in WWI than anyone (except Russia) and dreaded another war, particularly with Germany. To make matters worse, their military leaders were past their prime and mired in military strategy (for lack of a better term) from WWI. Talk about denying reality! Those folks took the prize. Add the blindness of the military to their spineless political leaders, and voila! Germany knocked them for a terrible loop. I appreciate your comments! And yes, your math seems solid regarding "thirty years of fascism". An astute observation on your part.
Point taken. They were good planes, for all the good they did them. Not too little, but definitely too late, thank goodness, not to mention round-the-clock bombing in the last year or so of that hideous war.
The Germans examined the fields of fire of the American bomber crews and then made decisions as to which routes their '109s and '190s would use for their attacks on the American bombers. Attacking the Brits at night was completely different, with them developing "nacht musik" which was usually two cannon on an Me-110 firing upward into the belly of a Lancaster, which was very effective. But most night attacks on British bombers were led by radar from the ground and made by the fighter from the tail. Anyway, the Germans decided that the best route was attacking the Americans headon, which meant their planes would be subject to enemy fire for a shorter time, and also meant that it normally took only about 5 cannon rounds striking a bomber to shoot it down. They estimated that it normally took about 17 cannon rounds to shoot down a B-17 or 24 from the rear. The reason for this is that by firing from the front the cannon rounds that reach their target usually exploded on an engine or the crew. The first fighter planes over Berlin were P-38s, with a range almost as great as the later-model P-51s which with a hard pasteboard belly tank and 85 gallons of fuel behind the pilot (which made the plane unstable for its first hour or so in the air and was there only because the size of aircraft radios radically decreased during the war) enabled P-51Ds and later models to stay in the air about 8 hours compared to a Spit's hour and a half. I consider the USAAF sending the bombers over Germany in daylight without fighter cover criminal, an act which gave bomber crewmembers the highest percentage of casualties on the American side during WW II, and those casualties usually were death after falling from the sky, a horrible proposition. As a USAFA cadet in the late '50s I was allowed to accompany a B-47 crew (of 3) on a flight. Since the bombardier/navigator decided that this particular bombing run on Sacramento would not be made for grade I was allowed to bomb Sacramento using the K system, a particularly educational event. I was also in the front seat of an F-94 based at Hamilton AFB near San Francisco when radar vectored us on a lead collision intercept of a B-29 out over the ocean. The F-94 was an F-80 with 24 unguided rockets in the nose and an afterburner. When we approached the bomber from the side at about 400 knots I noticed the pilot behind me breathing heavily. As we approached the bomber it looked like we would hit it, but we passed probably 50 or a hundred yards behind, shuddering mightily as we went through the bomber's turbulence. I then understood the reason for the heavy breathing. Let me tell you that those Germans attacking the American bombers must have been terrified - and brave. As a USAFA cadet I instructed the incoming class on the M-39 cannon used in first and second generation American jet fighters (it was a copy of the Mauser 214 which was still in development at the end of WW II). One of the teaching tools I used was a row of foot square aluminum panels mounted on a board which had been struck by an explosive 20mm cannon round. The last of the blast dented the 17th aluminum panel after going through the first 16. At the first panel the hole was about 4" in diameter, which extended for almost 6" into the aluminum sheets which were about an inch apart, and then the number of fragments decreased as it went through more panels. As I walked back with the crew after the B-47 ride I asked what the success rate for survival was for those who bailed out of the door I had been instructed to use if necessary and was informed that it was nil. Nobody had ever survived when they bailed out using that door. The crew all had ejection seats.
Ima SuperPerson in 1943 exploded a Lancaster after a attack from a Me 110 night fighter.All members died, and the pilot from the Me 110, the radioman baild out and survived.
+Tarnuk From Broombog The system he mentioned is Schräge Musik, which was a colloquial term for Jazz, it means "strange music". The radar systems usually were named after cities like the Lichtenstein.
While the British were making their less accurate nighttime air raids and hitting civilians, the U.S. was bombing only during the day, and U.S. bombing policy against Germany remained strictly precision bombing against industrial and military targets.
Added for replies: I know Russia was the reason Germany lost. The point I am making is that declaring war on America assured defeat no matter what may have occurred. As I clearly said below if anything may have been different. In a "what if context" that allowed German victory or extension of the war in it's area it would still have been subject to atomic destruction. While America was not the reason for victory it did make it assured. While declaring war on Russia was the reason for victory it was by no means assured. Great videos. Thanks for sharing them. Hitlers ultimate big mistake among the many debated to be the one that doomed him was declaring war on America who was developing nuclear weapons. No matter what may have turned out different that may have extended or provided potential victory to the German war effort would only have served to present additional targets for nuclear weapons. There was never any hope for German victory once these weapons had started development.
there is no debate, declaring war against the US wasn't his downfall as much as fighting a war on 2 huge fronts, even without the US he still was fighting a war on 2 fronts, that's where he made his mistake. Russia had the people to hold Hitler off. even though Hitler gained a lot of ground in Russia, the Germans lost a lot of its army in doing so where Russia still had tons of other people in their army.
Russia turned the tide of the war at Kursk, once and for all ( this with supplies and intelligence from the West ) D-day was more to secure western Europe from Stalin than to defeat Germany, western supplies and intelligence not withstanding 25 million plus Soviet people bought this victory for mankind.
The US like to pretend they were the big decider but simply they done Shit all and Russia done mkst/ all most everything and I ,if my speakers come through, will be making vids on this on my vid channel
A he'll of a lot more? Are u kidding? Look at the stats not just did Russia take more German and japanees land they also Fucking killed the most enemies as well as defended against might of Germany, u say defending again at Germany is like a easy thing. France fell so easily and the UK would have if Germany were not stupid enough to start war on so many fronts. Not just did Germany have superior tanks and weapons and planes. They also had way superior tactics and training then any country. This was due to the restriction s placed on the after world war one that meant they could only have a tiny army. So this led to only the best of the best being in the army who then we're in charge of training when world war 2 was approaching. Their tactics allowed them to retreat defend Sicily with very little death, maximum death on US and UK troops when they were not even supported by italy. They then preceded to visibly invade Italy and take controlled of its army. Their Luftwaffe (air force) was the Fucking best. Their tanks could not be penetrated by a lot of tanks. So what the fuck do u mean by suggesting it was easy to defend against. You are not educated on the facts like u didn't even know Russia invaded a lot of Japan land and got to Berlin first as well as killed more than 90 percent of the axis troops and liberated most of the death camps
For those interested in more detailed information on the war between Germany and the USSR, there are two decent series available (free at the moment) on Hulu, The Unknown War and Soviet Storm - WWII In The East.
The first cities bombed in World War Two were in Poland in 1939. bombed by the Germans, the first RAF bombs did not fall on Germany until well into 1940
poligon333 Wrong, Polish cities were carpet bombed in 1939, what the Germans would later call 'Terror Bombing,' And what of Gurnica in Spain, terror bombed by the German Condor Legion even before WW2 started.
I dodnt know about those. Will check it out , still it is a murder and because the Brits did it also they are not justified to claim higher ground in an argument. They were not better .
poligon333 Go siege of Warsaw, 40.000 civilians were killed in Warsaw alone by Germans, it is shelling and bombing and that is just city in Poland. Also look up Guernica which was bombed by the Condor Legion before the war. I will tell you though I agree that the British and American bombing offensive was wrong, it is wrong to target civilians no matter how evil the regime is, after all two wrongs don't make a right. I disagree however when you say Britain was not better, the RAF and the USAAF bombing campaign can no way be compared to the horrors of the holocaust, a holocaust, a holocaust that did not only kill Jews but millions of others, not only in the camps but through starvation by shipping food from the east to Germany and to feed their armies, all told apart from the 16 million Jews who died 11 million others , mostly Soviet citizens who died as a result of the starvation (The Ukraine was very badly hit) all told 17 million victims
i think churchill knew that bombing berlin would make hitler mad and switch bonbing from r.a.f. airfields to london and save the r.a.f....but churchill could not make that idea public as it would bring backlash...if hitler kept bombing the r.a.f. airfields for another month, they would have been destroyed.
Flying B-17s and B-24s over German territory and occupied territory in daylight was completely different from flying a Lancaster or any of the other British bombers over German territory during darkness. The American bombers flew in at least a half dozen formations during daylight to the targets before Curtis Lemay designed a formation that proved worth keeping. Prior to that a bomb would sometimes take the tail off a plane below it, so the object was to allow the bombs to make it through the lower squadrons without hitting a bomber. The American bombers were not able to use severe maneuvers to avoid flak or fighters, though except for the time from the IP (initial point) to bombing the target they continually jinked to avoid flak. Bombers shot down were usually stragglers that had lost engines or otherwise suffered reduced power and thus reduced airspeed. Bombers able to stay in formation usually made it back to base. I learned to fly in the USAF at Graham AB north of Mariana, FL in 1960 and at Craig AFB, AL in 1961. John Johnson, my flight instructor at Graham had been the aircraft commander of a B-17 bombing Germany in 1944 when he lost an engine prior to the target where they dropped their bombs, another engine over the target, a third on the way to Sweden about the time a stubby Swedish fighter motioned downward where they were expected to follow the fighter to a Swedish airfield. Johnson then lost his last engine just before touching down in Sweden, thus being the only American pilot to dead-stick a B-17 in Sweden during the war. At the graduation party he showed his three students a newspaper account in Swedish of his landing with a picture of the crew in front of the plane in the background. The B-17 could make it up over 30,000', high enough to avoid the '88 flack, but they usually flew lower than that and were subject to flak. The B-24 was also subject to flak. The Brits flew at much lower altitudes, generally at 10,000' or lower. They also staggered the altitudes in 100' increments between bombers so as to minimize collisions because instead of formations they flew in streams with only one pilot. Besides him sat an engineer who was there in order to handle the switches basically and land the plane in case the pilot was dead or injured. Beams lead the Brits to their targets where pathfinder planes, usually Mosquitos, had dropped flares that enabled them to drop their bombs hopefully on the area of the city in question. The Butts report concluded that the average miss distance for British bombs was 7 miles, totally unacceptable. That later improved, but only slightly. A British bomber sensing an enemy fighter on its tail dove and maneuvered radically in an attempt to shake the fighter. For awhile a device labeled Monica warned the British crews of a fighter behind them, but that was removed about 7 months after it went into service when it was discovered that the Germans were using Monica to home in on the bombers. At the end the German brass reported that the American attacks on industry, aircraft and tank factories, and petroleum production, both natural and synthetic was more effective than area bombing. The Americans called it precision bombing, but they still had a CEP (circular area of probability) measured in miles. For both countries the loss of life among the bomber crews was percentage-wise the highest on the Allied side, with the crewmen on the submarines having the second highest casualty rate. Only the almost 70% loss rate of the U-boat crews exceeded the Allied bomber crew loss rate. The tonnage of bombs dropped on N. Vietnam in the '60s and '70s was 3.8 times that dropped on Europe in WW II. In no case in history has a nation surrendered solely because of bombs being dropped on it - even Japan in WW II. There, the imminent invasion by the Americans and their allies and the Soviets taking the Kuriles and also being ready to invade was likely more of the reason they surrendered than the bombing, horrible though it was.
The RAF lost too many bombers in the early days our theit bombing campaign during daylight hours, ans so they switched to night bombing. Just like the Luftwaffe had to over Britain.
Now I understand the Plucky Brits done their best, but the Americans done the real damage with their precision bombing which only the Americans could employ. Wow sounds like a Disney film script, but that can't be true because Disney specialise in fantasy films don't they?
1:11:45 "(Wild Boar) was not always popular, as single engine fighters were not well suited for the night fighting role." Does anyone know why that is? Why would the 109 or the 190 be unqualified for use in night defensive missions? The reasons I can think of might be that your daylight interceptors needed down time for repair, crew maintenance, and pilot rest. But that doesn't mean the plane is unqualified. That was why the Blenheim was used during the Battle of Britain in 1940. The Spitfire and Hurricans pilots could fly only so many sorties in a given day. The second reason might be the limited range of the 109/190s, which would mean they wouldn't have the time to loiter at night looking for a British bomber formation. Other than those two, I can't see any reason why a single engine pursuit interceptor wouldn't work at night (unless they all turn into vampires or moonlight in a plane themed adult film career where they sell their tail turret for $20 a trick, or something). Does anyone have any ideas?
The list of British bomber types had one glaring omission. The one bomber that carried no defensive machine guns; instead, relying on speed. The De Haviland Mosquito, which was capable of flying at over 400mph at altitude, was fast enough to be extremely hard to intercept, and could carry up to 4,000 lbs. of bombs.
The lies being furthered here are why America and the World is where we are today. Only one people have prospered over all. Americans are in for sad days ahead.
I'm not really sure that's Germany at 1:10, as it looks very, very much like the Dome cathedral and St. Martin at my hometown Riga, Latvia. Front scene then must be the part of historical center (one with a small tower on the right being town council) that got damaged so badly, ruins were teared down soon after war, and only a number of historic buildings were built anew in late 1990s - early 2000s.
A very keen and astute observation that you made there, Mr. Bob Mountford. Great stuff! Truly. I hear that the number one main reason supporting that fact... is highly due to the losers being dead, therefore making their brains cease to function... and because of that one vital issue... they lose the ability to decide anything at all.
Stupid Guy Productions war is crime especially if they kill civilians intentionally. Bombing raids against cities were crimes regardless which country did it.
all were war crimes or crimes against humanity. the wars did not solve anything. history made the judgment over all ideologies, which were against humanity. but war crimes by victors have never been investigated (comited by soviets and western allies).
You could honestly make a game that dedicates itself to having realistic battles and competent AI capable of like, leading charges and making maneuvers and have it play through any modern war (1900+) and it would be bussin'
Why all the jumping back and forth in the timeline? I would much prefer a steady timeline showing the progression of bomber development, rather than starting over with early planes every 10 minutes. I gave up on this video at 55:00.
I just uploaded 2 more of the rare episodes of "Battle for the Mediterranean" and "Guadalcanal" episodes of this same series, they were previously unavailable on youtube, i shared them under fair use now so enjoy :)
People make the mistake of judging the actions of the past from the perspective of today. To appreciate history you have to put yourself in the time and place. You may find yourself being more understanding. Was it wrong to bomb German cities? From today's perspective, yes. From the perspective of the time, it's not so black and white. What makes us great is that we progress by looking back and saying "let's not do that again."
You guys really dropped the ball with Jimmy Doolittle. He was a leader in the field of aviation during the interwar years and retained his reserve commission. He got a degree in aeronautical engineering from MIT. He was the first person to fly a plane from takeoff to landing 100% on instruments. He won numerous air races during the interwar years. His most famous accomplishment was as leader of the raid which bears his name. The Doolittle Raid. He led 16 Army bombers which took off from the deck of the aircraft carrier USS Hornet and was the first allied operation to drop bombs on mainland Japan. It was a huge propaganda victory on the home front and was a psychological blow to Japan as well in spite of the fact that the 16 B-25 medium bombers which had to carry an extensive load of additional fuel for their long trip actually did very little real damage. He was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor and was jumped from LtCol to Major General, THEN he began his rise in charge of various large operational commands concluding with his command the the US 8th Air Force which was the US unit based in Britain which bombed Germany as you mentioned in your video.
I mean I see your point, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say that they dropped the ball. He wasn’t a major figure in the German air war. Hes most known for the raid in which bears his name. I don’t see how this program could have even integrated him into its discussion.
+ Michael Bond Did you notice animosity from the French for Churchill's strategic actions on their navy? I think it took a lot of guts to do what he did. It must have been gut wrenching for him to order the attack.
the truth about what really happened is hidden. this video is full of slanted inaccuracies. you are mostly correct. the saarland was to be voted on according to the treaty, and decided if it was to be given back to germany it was not. the danzig corridor was full of atrocities against german people and was part of germany before ww1 and many other parts he retook.but the people in those areas clearly wanted him too. austria voted fairly to be annexed with a 98% sweep approving. and get this france invaded germany BEFORE germany invaded france ,with many divisions about 8 kilometers into the german interior,before being repelled. i'll bet you havent heard that one. why????? because the rothschilds controlled media doesnt want people to know the truth. the truth is both sides were played like puppets and painted as devils to the other side. the whole damn thing ww1 and ww2 was ALL orchestrated by the bankster murdering rothschilds family and friends even grandma rothschilds said QUOTE" there would be NO wars unless my sons wanted them" .
HappyandAtheist Your grandparents almost became a victim of the war started by Nazi's led by Hitler and his gang of criminals.. The Nazi's extreme views also led to many other (well-known and acknowledged by a vast majority of Germans) horrible crimes. Here is the definition of Nazi according to Oxford www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Nazi If you wish to believe ALL Germans had these qualities during the period in question, you are certainly free to do so.
HappyandAtheist And you are a fake, kiddo. If your grandparents had lived in England, your English would be better. It's "you are" or you're" for your information. Nice try.
True mate, but the Short Stirling would of been the best heavy bomber of the war if they had'nt had to shorten the wing span. I think the video is inacurate due to no mention of the Halifax.
Ian Bluemink Ian, the Halifax wasn't that good until they realized in the Mk. III that an expanded wing and four Hercules engines would bring the aircraft to its full potential. By that point, it's reputation never fully recovered, though she was certainly rugged and brought more than her fair share of crews home.
I am german and not whining about the bombing of german cities. The nazis did it to London, too. But don't excuse the actions of the american and royal air force. I can understand the bombing runs on the industrial complex in west germany, but bombing Dresden, my hometown with thousands of incendiary bombs and burning it to the ground was pure terrorism.
No putting people in church's and burning it to the ground like the 2nd SS did at Oradour-sur-Glane was pure terrorism. Bombing cities was part of total war. Dresden was a hub of war production, and the RAF methods were no different then their urban bombing campaign against Hamburg and various towns in the Ruhr, or the LW bombing of Coventry and Stalingrad. Key point, the Allies didn't continue to bomb and kill civilians after the towns were overrun or the enemy surrendered. Different from how your country practiced the war, for exampled 60,000 Poles died during the invasion of Poland, yet 6 million perished DURING German occupation of Poland, AFTER the country had surrendered. Or Belarussia where 25% of the civilian population died during the 3 year German occupation. Dresden was stupid because by 1945 the RAF didn't need to waste bombs on urban bombing, they were already smashing pinpoint targets like synthetic oil and rail depots. A lack of air superiority necessitated nighttime urban bombing until mid 1944. After that there was really no need to keep doing it because the RAF could operate by day, and their tech was so could they could do almost as well at night hitting pinpoint targets.
Thumbs, Es gab keinen direkten Befehl Hitlers nach London bombardiert wurde, und auch dann nur ein Flugzeug bombardiert, es war nur eine Ausrede, nur ein Vorwand, um bombardiert Berlin werden.// Thumbs There was no direct orders from Hitler to London was bombed, and even then only a plane bombed, it was just an excuse, just an excuse to be bombed Berlin.
Colin Kelly The polish were no angels and their activities against minorities is well documented. None of the neighbour countries was happy with the polish. With the Nazis as a rulig party conflict was pre-programmed. The English backed the Polish and by doing so they fueled a conflict that led to a German attack. So the Polish and the English started WW2. Inially they were beaten and by involving increasingly more countries (Soviets, US) the war activities got out of their control. The Germans are no angels but they did not have a history in atrocities, but the English/British did (Irish, Boeers, Bengalis ...mostely by starving them to death). The Germans could not surrender. How? To an enemy that is going to kill wives and kids? The allie of the English starved 100thausends of POWs to death - after surrender. The German population suffered decades after surrender. The bombing of the civillians is testimony that the idea of WW2 was the extermination of the Germans, most probably because they had the best economy at that time. But this is all good, so I bastard exist.
Have to agree even though I'm English. The war for Germany was over by the time of the bombing of Dresden. The bombing had more to do with Harris's desire to prove wars could be won by bombing alone than any strategic imperative. It wasnt necessary but I wouldnt call it terrorism. Having said that would Hitler have been any less merciless.
If Germany had prevailed, many of the R.A.F. command structure would have most definitely been subject to War Crimes Against Humanity just as their foes were.
Gregory Nasrallah I wish you were joking but I know you aren't. You seriously think that Nazi Germany would hold war crime trials? Bcubed is right. If Germany had won and was particularly angry with a captured allied commander, they would just execute them, almost certainly without trial.
***** It' a hypothetical scenario, so to what degree can one be serious? The Germans did have trials for some of the July 20th. conspirators. They might have used trials for political purposes, just as the Nuremberg trials were after the war. To the German civilian population that suffered under these attacks, trials might make for great theater.
***** From what I can surmise from most of the comments, there is no admiration of the British policy concerning Germany. Your point about a power shift is well taken. Why else would Britain not make peace? As far as your view on the Soviet Union, Germany most likely prevented it's conquest of Western Europe.
"slannmage" Your conclusions are all wrong. Without America, Germany England would have overrun, with superior technology, and englishman would now speak German. I'm just saying Dünkürchen (Dunkirk)? Germany had the best scientist, and was years advance, and the Allied shown how to fight really correct. Without America's help England totally lost.
Not true. The battle of Britain changed everything. Unable to conquer England she was left to shrivel on the vine however she won the battle of the Atlantic, with American help. She had never the ability to invade and overcome England that is the point here. Even without a two front war it is doubtful she could have conquered England. England had proven she had the resources to defend herself. America had the resources to win the war. All over in 1940
Warren Fox Germany chances of success: 1. Only one front against the British and Americans 2. The Messerschmitt Me-262 1 year earlier use (Germany air superiority recaptured) 3. Hitler to hear his best generals (Rommel, Guderian, Manstein) 4. Construction of 400 submarines of the type XXI (6 weeks under water) 5. construction of 1000 Tiger Tank additional 6. Factor "Großdeutschland" with WaffenSS and Wehrmacht
Not quite true........remember it was England who gave the Nazis their first defeats, such as the Battle of Britain, and in North Africa.........and it was England who was the only country left, to put up resistance, once Hitlers war machine had taken over mainland Europe. The Germans were very courageous people, but it was their insane leader with his military blunders that cost them the war!
I dont think the Germans ever had the capacity to of ever mounted a massed land evasion of the UK. I mean our archers in our castles, would of taken care of any of the enemy landing on our beaches..........:)
The areas where the allies were the leaders were electronics, radar, computing. This really proved to be vital for administration intelligence gathering and logistics. These force multipliers were crucial in the long run. Technological breakthroughs were developed by German but she lacked the ability to capitalise. At the end of the war she had plenty of advanced fighters but nobody to fly them. The allies understood the concept of force multipliers and logistics on a grand scale. Even the battle of Britain was a battle of logistics rather than technical superiority. The Germans could not understand why there was still an English Airforce after 6 weeks of intense warfare. She lost her chance, she new it. The battle of the Atlantic was a battle of technology. Improved radar and sonar and weapons finally changed the course of this war. The technological advances by all the fighting forces were incredible and the refinement of jet technology by Germany is still with us . It goes to show that wars are not always on technology alone, but how it is applied.
Great documentaries. What´s with the format here that one can no longer reply below previous comments? In reply to Le civin, no question that in a war of attrition, it was the Soviets who mainly wore down the German war machine. The Germans, however, made a huge strategic error in not sufficiently investing in the Luftwaffe. It´s a main cause as to why they lost on both fronts.
The Germans invested in their submarine force that almost defeated England. But if we look in today's events we realize that the Germans finally learn their lesson and conquered Europe economically, even though they rose from the ashes twice in the 20th century. Having lived there for three years I have noticed how seriously each one of them took their job. Even the door bells had an air about them that they opened the door for you, but they were the boss. I have mixed feelings about them. The English and French I disliked Italians were OK and the Russians were forceful, just like us.
***** The Germans were not the only ones to invest in submarines, Britain did too, it is a little know fact that Britain actually had more submarines than the Germans in 1939
Alan Moore I was not aware of that. I wonder, why didn't picket the German sub bases on the west coast and attack their subs before they cause all that damage. I guess it is easy to critic 70 years after the fact.
The concentrated attacks during “Big Week” in February 1944, dealt the Luftwaffe a blow from which it never fully recovered. Largely because of P-51s and P-38s using new tactics, flying ahead of US bombers and clearing a path, the Luftwaffe in Western Europe wrote off 34 percent of its fighter strength in January, another 56 percent in February. Production of Bf 109 and Fw 190 fighters continued but did not make up for the attrition. Because of the heavy bombing of German synthetic oil facilities, supplies of aviation fuel dropped from 180,000 tons in April, to 50,000 tons in July, and 10,000 tons in August. This was largely why the Luftwaffe was absent from D-Day.
The allies had complete air superiority well before Feb 1945. They already had the German air force as a non issue before D-Day in June of 1944. Big Week was the area fire bombing of German cities that were already rubble. Your right about fuel shortage with Romania long taken over by Russia by Feb 1945. Any fuel was going to ground forces since Hitler lost all confidence in the Luftwaffe long ago. They ran out of fuel for the battle of the Bulge and that was 2 months before Big Week. The Germans could build planes but pilots and fuel shortage kept them on the ground. The Russia's were getting ready to knock at Berlin's door by Feb 1945. Allied bombing at that late stage of the war was not speeding or slowing the arrival of the Russians at Hitler's Bunker.
I was talking about Feb 1944. The Luftwaffe was still very effective before that, even though it was getting worst of it, it was still making good most of it's losses. When the 8th Air Force went after the German oil fields in Jan and Feb, and needed fighter escort, Leigh Mallory objected to the operation because he believed the fighters should be trained and readied to support the D-Day operation instead. Eisenhower decided in favor of the 8th Air Force, and he was right. The Luftwaffe was not only decimated in this operation, protecting their synthetic oil fields, but what remained of it, was pulled out of France. The allies had the badly needed total air domination on D-Day, as all amphibious operations must have, and they got it because of this operation. (Air superiority is not enough for an amphibious operation. It must be total air domination.) I think allied fighters shooting it out with Luftwaffe fighters over the Channel, may have boded ill for the invasion, even if the allies got the better of the shoot-out.
Sorry, your link failed. The Germans did have some advantages that were hard to overcome, and all allies, British, American, and Russian contributed to the defeat of Germany in an indispensable way.
The only bad thing about these documentaries is they go into way too much backstory leading up to the main topic. We don't need 30 minutes of every episode to discuss the origins of the war.
Naught point 303... How is it that guy didn't get strangled? Not kidding. How many times would YOU say "naught point" ? How many times would you listen to it, without doing something about it? Something calculated to be effective. As in, "Stop That!"
I remember watching and recording all of these excellent programs when they first aired here in the US on PBS. Among the best docs on the war, I think, but not without errors. For example, the B-17 production run went well over 12,000, not the 8 k stated here. And the Army Air Force didn’t end the war with the biggest and most powerful air forces in the world, but the most powerful and largest…and of you include naval air, no contest at all.
@@chipsawdust5816 Yeah, I wasn't at all clear...biggest and most powerful are two different things...the Soviet Air Force at the end had probably more airplanes than the USAAF (but not the USAAF plus the USN), but the USAAF certainly was the most powerful with their fleets of heavy and medium bombers.
Churchill was a conservative which brings enemies who are much less knowledgable & seek their own wealth rather than sacrificing for the good of their neighbors. We have just seen a major shift toward conservatism in Britain & the U.S. . Thanks be to GOD!
Well, we just couldn't and wouldn't tolerate Jew murderers. The Nazis had made Germany morally bankrupt, even before the fighting started, even before the camps in Poland.
Dresden most certainly was a military target: It was a transportation hub for the eastern half of Germany. That's also why there were so many refugees from the East there.
First Britain betrays Czechoslovakia and its well developed industry to Hitler , then declares war after Poland is attacked but do nothing, then when is too late decide to respond but can do shit and is near defeat then US join and support it and suddenly Britain is brave enough to target civilians burning them alive from above, then after war Britain gives away what doesn't belong to it to the even bigger asshole then Hitler , to Stalin, the whole eastern Europe , its formal allies by the way. Well done Britain you were cowardly and a very bad ally.
John Cornell Not at all. If it weren't for Great Britain's desire to rule the world we probably never would have had 2 world wars in the first place. The Germans didn't want to rule the entire world (or even Britain); they only wanted freedom from foreign oppression and the right to self-determination.
AMAZING SERIES. This is probably the most informative WWII documentary series you will ever watch....watch for trolls in the comments though, and ENJOY!
Lancaster was once looped. Not entirely a voluntary action on the part of the pilot. Apparently he had to pull up sharply to avoid another aircraft and a flak burst under the nose, pushing the plane up even more so the pilot had no choice but keep going into the loop.
This documentary is very inaccurate, and 80% up-plays the role of RAF night attacks and down-plays the importance of US daylight precision raids on German industry in ending the war.
This commentator keeps inferring that the RAF was the worlds best air force, not even close, the US Army Air Corp dwarfed it and had better aircraft. The Luftwaffe had the best pilots and aircraft, but lacked a true heavy bomber force and was way over extended.
Luftwaffe aircraft were some of the best at the start of the war, but were eventually eclipsed by American fighters. And while they had some of the best pilots at the start of the war, attrition was decreasing the quality of the pilots serving as replacements were sent up. Meanwhile the US not only kept adding ever more planes, it had the advantage of more of its pilots gaining experience as they faced a force who was diminishing in skill and capability. The introduction of jet planes were of little significance, mostly because of their very limited range and that the US & UK were also starting to introduce jets at the wars end. The German jet advantage was of getting them into service a few months earlier.
Oh Gregory please name one American plane that was better than it's British counterpart. At this point most Americans name the Mustang, but wait it was crap without a British merlin engine and even then it couldn't compete with the later marks of Spitfire. The Germans had the best pilots, really. Never heard of the Battle of Britain then. In conclusion I think you are just a sad little Brit hatter with a huge chip on your shoulder.
On the contrary, I like the British, but this war should have been nipped in the bud. Making peace in 1940 would have saved the lives of countless millions and would have saved Britain it's empire. The merlin engines, although British in design, were used in P-51s but were manufactured in the U.S. under license. In fighter to fighter engagements during the B.O.B, the luftwaffe prevailed despite the disadvantage of limited time over target areas. R.A.F. victories in the air were mostly against slower and vulnerable bombers. The B-17 was the best bomber, but the best fighter of the war can be argued.
These programs are my bedtime stories
Same here! lol
Been my bedtime stories for 15 years!
Yup!!!! Tim Piggot Smith has been hypnotizing me for ages lol
I agree.
I thought that I was the only person who found these documentaries to be soothing bedtime company.
Fantastic documentaries, thanks for posting, I try to watch one or two every day.
Long before the US Air Force joined in the action, the RCAF were contributing greatly. They fought in the Battle of Britain. Everyone seems to forget or overlook the Canadian contribution.
+peggyt1243 The Canadians were rock solid with Britain from the beginning of the war. Their contribution is well liked.
+TheVillaAston Yet not acknowledged
+peggyt1243 So you're saying the British and Canadians fought in the war too?
It is not only the soldiers and aircrews that are overlooked. The Canadian women also contributed, working in the factories to build the bombers that the English needed. But what for? To help the Poles that tried to seize Chechoslovakia and were fascistic as well?
There were seven Americans in the RAF
My father was a B-24 pilot in the 15th, logged 30 missions over Nazi territory. Gen. Leon Johnson, Medal Of Honor winner (Ploesti) gave him his Air Medal one day in Foggia. Dad said it was a slow day to hand out medals. Years later he ran into Johnson in a hotel lobby, asked him if he thought strategic bombing helped shorten the war. Johnson said the only thing he was certain was that it killed a lot of fine young men and civilians. I saw an interview with Johnson years ago where he basically said the same thing.
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@@gh87716HELLO COMMUNAZI.....TROLLETTE???? POTTY BOTTY??? WHATEVER......MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.......
What a shame that the comments section for such a high quality documentary series is so littered with so many low rent, bargain basement comments from people who don't know a good series when they see one. I have to wonder if any of them even watched the show. Do not read the comments here if you value your sanity.
+TheThirdMan I agree....hands-down the best WW2 documentary series ever made and yet we get chronic complainers. I wonder if these perfectionists demand the same exacting standards in their own lives and treatment of their fellow man...? Maybe we could learn from history, calm the runaway emotions, and make a better world...one person and one moment at a time.
that is why I get happy when the comments are disabled
Ah, nice to meet you Harry Lime
+TheThirdMan It's sad.. I kno, cuz I grew up buffeting against this.. they were raised on Showmanship & pretty graphix!
Mythbusters, ftw eh! ..What half-ass'd pseudo-Science they employ many times. Ive actually DEBUNKED SOME OF THEIR DEBUNKING BY PERFORMING THE EXPERIENMENT PROPER AND MULTIPLE TIMES.
(yes im a bit embittered these days; but u would be too once If you allow urself to see the world for what it truly has become)
+Ronald Tartaglia It's too bad tho :/ that we need to go Nuclear Option..
Whatever happened to the cattle-ranchers? I seen them die our the past decade. both in Comments & On The road.
Sheepple luv to help tha Lemmings. n00b-gen ftw. Troll-tech is tha new world order!
Another installment of the best ww2 series of all. Clear and concise, good battle footage and not cluttered with all the 'I was there' interviews. Two thumbs up.
Thanks for these docs,great stuff.
The Germans did develop a heavy bomber, the Heinkel He 177 Greif. It was a 4-engine bomber, where the engines were packed into two nacelles instead of four. This was done to maximize efficiency of parts and lower building costs. Over 1,000 were built. The bomber suffered problems from overheating.
It was a mess, and some of that could be attributed to unreasonable demands...like making every bomber the Luftwaffe had be also a dive-bomber. (Except maybe the He111?) They probably could have built something like 10 FW-190s for every He177, a plane that just sucked resources without any real results.
@@dougcastleman9518u are aware that hermany lost cause of not enough equipment and men but because of lack of resources, ie NO oil and fuel.. germany made enough equipment abd had enough manpower.
@rickmoreno6858 you do know that you need oil and coal to produce items industrially. Then you need that to transport said items.
But there were supply and even quality issues towards the end of the war. Look at early war items in quality compared to late war. K98s are a great example or even uniform items or web gear.
Manpower was at a huge premium by wars end. If they had manpower, then why did Germany need to use Hitler Youth enlistment? By 1944, Allied forces were capturing 16 year old soldiers in France.
Plus it didn't help that we bombed the fuck out of their factories.
This German bomber suffered in the design false by the need for all German bombers to be capable of dive bombing. That's why the twin engines in two nacelles, making engine field maintenance extremely difficult. Much of its use during the war was as a heavy transport, especially during the Stalingrad resupply operation of the German 6th army. And the design of the twin engines were not simple,and the need to add dive brakes greatly slowed the development and introduction of this aircraft.
Possibly due to the close proximity of the engine placement?
These documentaries are so important to understand what war was really like. I don't show many movies in my History class...these are some of what I show. Thank you for posting
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Come on tell the truth. Are you democrat or republican?
Good job
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@@pena.3302 ...Yes Sir... absolutely I'm aware of those Docs. WW2 In color is also a good one.
Pretty soon documentaries like this will be illegal in Florida because it will make white people feel bad.
Thank you Vasile Luga !
Britain never stood alone, it had the entire commonwealth by its side.
Churchill once said that the Canadian Army defending the beaches allowed him to sleep at night.
Bomber Command was a useless, BS producing, results. A few of these bombers on long range patrol over Atlantic Convoy routes would have been best for the Allied effort. Churchill was horrified to learn depth charges were denied aluminum powder used in bombs.
RAF night bombing was horribly inaccurate. Initally, so much countryside was hit by mistake, it was known as the Great Cow Slaughter. Germans thought it an attack on child nutrition.
Remarkably accurate descriptions of RAF bombing, strategy, accuracy, and humanity. It must be said that German strategies demanded cruelty in place of adequate weapons and supplies. Once Luftwaffe bombers obliterated Warsaw, Rotterdam, London, Coventry, Belgrade, beginning with Guernica.
My grandfather used to go to Germany from England during WWII.
Said he didn't like Germany a whole lot.
He never stopped in Germany, he just turned around and came back to England.
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Jeremy Stuckey lol
Always nice to pop over for a visit at 30,000ft. Lancaster Airlines or maybe he was going in a Boeing..😏
You assume right, Lancaster.
32:49 Hap Arnold was flight trained by the Wright brothers. He was one of the first three US rated military pilots in the US Air Forces.
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*this is an excellent documentary*
Great series to fall asleep to.
These docs are AWSOME
I've watched a massive pile of WWII docs, but in terms of "what happened" this series is the best of them.
I know you can't possibly touch on all the many British bombers, but surely when discussing the Strategic Bombing Campaign, you should have mentioned the Halifax. The Mosquito also deserved a mention.
You say "you" like it's the person that uploaded it who is responsible. They clearly state in the description it's not their content and they don't own it. These documentaries are from the 90's lol, they're old.
No better series. Well done.
Britain and America lost many good men in the skies over Europe.
The American bombers, closely formed and very heavily armed, bravely flew daytime sorties and were exposed to everything the Nazi defenders could throw at them. The RAF took over at night and once their bombers were picked out by searchlights they attracted heavy flack and were attacked night fighters. Both air forces used different tactics to defend their aircraft from fighters. The American B17s, armed with many heavy machine guns, stoically flew on in close formation, their gunfire providing mutual protection. The RAF's Lancasters more sparsely formed and with fewer machineguns, and of lighter calibre, went into a corkscrew dive reaching speeds of 300 mph plus, which could only be done when their bomb bays were empty.
Both American and British bombers would be harassed on the way to their targets and then all the way home by fighters and anti-aircraft fire from the ground.
We owe these brave men our thanks. The world would be a very different place today if they hadn't fought and died on our behalf.
Thank you very much for the upload!
Very well .Told & Real footage.I like it stay Real .✌💯
Great vid indeed!! Well organized and full of stats and info even Ian Hogg could learn from!!
"No bombs will fall on Berlin or my name is Meyer", Goring said.
Fat Meyer had a few bad years until suicide by cyanide.
I thought maybe it was Oscar Meyer...my bad
Excellent series-thank you for uploading.
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job making it easier for viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. Historians did a very good job presenting actual facts from fiction. Orator presented the documentary very well. Class A research project. Rough combat operations on both sides. Special thanks to the allied forces who fought/perished/survived fighting the enemy forces. Who made this documentary possible!!! Had the French & British confronted Germany instead of engaging in the " phoney " war. Perhaps WW2 wouldn't have escalated into the horrible catastrophe that it did. Therefore who was actually responsible for the war in Europe.The aggressors or the anti aggressors. The above happens with weak/mentally disabled leaders like Chamberlain. Costing millions their lives!!!
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The aggressors.
Excellent presentation !
B-24 Liberators were tiring to fly, at least according to those who actually did so. The plane apparently had a strong tendency to yaw to the pilot's right due to engine torque and required constant correction. I saw a war era cartoon depicting B-24 pilots as being immediately identifiable by their overdeveloped left arms, the consequence of having to compensate for the starboard yaw. While these were the most widely produced American heavy bombers, they couldn't take the same level of punishment that the B-17 could. I have to say that the surviving crews that flew in B-24s remembered them very fondly.
+Melanie Hamilton its called trim settings, learn to fly
Dr. Death Thank you. I can only go by what I've read and how my late step-dad explained some peculiarities of various planes. He flew in WWII (B-26), Korea (F-86) and Vietnam ("Puff", a specifically modified C-47). Given his experience, he probably didn't know what he was talking about.
+Melanie Hamilton Well my grandfather was a B-17 pilot that flew in the 100th bomb group (Bloody 100th). I still have his war diaries, they tried making his group switch to B-24's and their big concern wasn't yaw it was fire. Given that your step dad didn't fly B-24's I don't see how he could comment on them. For instance just because he flew a Sabre could he comment on the F9F?
+Melanie Hamilton The B-24 was built not far from me at Willow Run, Mi. (They called it will it run) Edsel Ford died of stomach cancer. However, many think the B-24 Liberator was a contributing factor. A gigantic facility, they envisioned turning out Liberators like Fords. I know the Liberator had the nick name "widow maker"
I Flick It was amazing how many of those bombers were built at Willow Run (wasn't aware of the nickname which is actually pretty funny). I can't get enough history and trivia about WWII. Such a massive worldwide effort. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. Love this stuff.
Amazing This. Cheers.
I'm from the USA, yet I know that the Soviets paid the greatest price and made the biggest difference in the outcome of the WWII, especially in Europe. Yeah, we sent them war machines, food, etc., but they provided the manpower, the actual bodies. I have no problem giving them the credit they deserve. Their own war machines were pretty damned impressive (T34 tanks leap to mind) and their war production churned out huge numbers of tanks, planes, weapons. No one should have the temerity to invade Mother Russia. The hubris of the Nazis was a major factor in their defeat. The USA didn't win the war by itself. It was a combined effort, okay?
Melanie I agree with you totally. Very balanced analysis. two of every three Germans killed were killed by the Soviets. But Stalin is no choir boy.
Le civin You're being very kind in reference to Stalin. He was 'round the bend crazy! A really scary guy. Amazing that he was only 5'4". Did you know that he got manicures? Isn't that a scream?
Melanie Hamilton A lot of similities between Stalin and Hitler
Alan Moore Absolutely! It's almost surreal. Hard to say which one was more psychopathic.
Le civin Hitler was Austrian and Stalin was Goergian
Great commentary, intelligent, well spoken. Thank you.
Not bad for a programme that was made 13 years ago,when the History channel actually commissioned historical series rather than the junk they serve up these days.
amen, they should change the name from history to jesus rides a UFO to a pawnshop!
hixton weasle that's very true lol
i know, its sad.
***** happy new year!
Amen brother!!!!
An excellent documentary. *Note: Wellingtons used radials, not the RR Merlins mentioned
World War 2 was total war, and everything and everybody a potential target. If you are not victorious, however, your actions will be considered genocide, but if you are the victor, your actions can be overlooked, especially if your the one doing the looking.
Nazis feeling sorry for themselves----its not fair that nazis kill and kill and then people fight back--they are so cruel to fight back --poor nazis -that kept fighting even after dresden--nazis are really the heroes of worst crimes of humanity too bad the allies didnt bomb and destroy the whole place to get rid of the nazi tumor forever--now the germans voted them back into their gov---cause they never stopped being nazis
44:47 They're talking about B-17s, but I'm pretty sure that shot is from a B-26 Marauder, given the dihedral of the tailplane and top turret right next to it.
+vmvlkc Well spotted...
I think you are right. B-26 Martin
Wow that's evil. Bombing civilians and telling the crews that they're bombing military targets..yikes. 600,000 people..😱
Thank you Vasile Luga
Hitler could never make a go of it as a painter, but now his artistic talent is appreciated and his works command high prices on the rare occasions when they are auctioned.
If you think hitlers paintings sell because of his artistic talent they sell because he was one of the biggest mass murderers in world history that is what his talent was
Anybody notice that the background music for the discussion of the German air force is Bach's "English Suite"?
+dk6024 No, it's the Italienische Konzert, BWV 971, from Clavierubung II. Besides, there are six English Suites, not just one.
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I definitely prefer the previous music, to this, as a documentary sound track.
My grandfather fought in WW1 and WW2 he died in 1997 at his funeral my mom got two flags
Deepest respects.
May we as a race never forget the courage people like your grandfather must have had. Much love and respect to him.
This is all very interesting and I believe accurate. I do have one problem though. In listing the British 4 engine aircraft used, where is mention of the Handley Paige Halifax? My grandfather flew his tours as navigator in this bomber as part of 425 Squadron, 6 Group, RCAF, Bomber Command and flew until the end of the war.
+elizabeth BERUBE I'm afraid the Avro Lancaster got most of the glory in Harris' air offensive on Germany but of course the Halifax played its part in a campaign that still generates fierce debate.
The Luftwaffe was a well-trained group, but they had a fool as their leader. Fat Boy Goering, in his infinite wisdom, decided that Germany didn't need heavy bombers. He was sure that their medium range machines would do the job. Wrong. He also didn't figure on other countries developing fighters superior to his. When, during the Battle of Britain, he asked his top ace Galland what he needed to defeat the British, Galland replied "Spitfires". Our P-51s, P-47s and P-38s weren't exactly shabby either. Whatever you think of our B-17s, they could take an incredible amount of abuse and still get home. We lost so many bomber crews in Europe. Tough to watch those planes go down with their 10-man crews. Very sad reality of war.
I agree with every point you've made. Everyone blinked, as you correctly stated. Germany and Japan got the drop on us. I realize that Western Europe was still exhausted, physically and mentally, from WWI, but it's never a good idea to deny what's in front of your eyes simply because you don't want to believe it. Poor old France had lost more soldiers and civilians in WWI than anyone (except Russia) and dreaded another war, particularly with Germany. To make matters worse, their military leaders were past their prime and mired in military strategy (for lack of a better term) from WWI. Talk about denying reality! Those folks took the prize. Add the blindness of the military to their spineless political leaders, and voila! Germany knocked them for a terrible loop.
I appreciate your comments! And yes, your math seems solid regarding "thirty years of fascism". An astute observation on your part.
You've made many good points. Impressive knowledge of history, WWII in particular. Thanks for your insight.
no balls
ME262 and ME163, the germans had a better plane or two.
Point taken. They were good planes, for all the good they did them. Not too little, but definitely too late, thank goodness, not to mention round-the-clock bombing in the last year or so of that hideous war.
This is a great documentary. Thanks for posting it. The sequence starting at 26:07 seems to be mirrored.
The Germans examined the fields of fire of the American bomber crews and then made decisions as to which routes their '109s and '190s would use for their attacks on the American bombers.
Attacking the Brits at night was completely different, with them developing "nacht musik" which was usually two cannon on an Me-110 firing upward into the belly of a Lancaster, which was very effective. But most night attacks on British bombers were led by radar from the ground and made by the fighter from the tail.
Anyway, the Germans decided that the best route was attacking the Americans headon, which meant their planes would be subject to enemy fire for a shorter time, and also meant that it normally took only about 5 cannon rounds striking a bomber to shoot it down. They estimated that it normally took about 17 cannon rounds to shoot down a B-17 or 24 from the rear. The reason for this is that by firing from the front the cannon rounds that reach their target usually exploded on an engine or the crew.
The first fighter planes over Berlin were P-38s, with a range almost as great as the later-model P-51s which with a hard pasteboard belly tank and 85 gallons of fuel behind the pilot (which made the plane unstable for its first hour or so in the air and was there only because the size of aircraft radios radically decreased during the war) enabled P-51Ds and later models to stay in the air about 8 hours compared to a Spit's hour and a half. I consider the USAAF sending the bombers over Germany in daylight without fighter cover criminal, an act which gave bomber crewmembers the highest percentage of casualties on the American side during WW II, and those casualties usually were death after falling from the sky, a horrible proposition.
As a USAFA cadet in the late '50s I was allowed to accompany a B-47 crew (of 3) on a flight. Since the bombardier/navigator decided that this particular bombing run on Sacramento would not be made for grade I was allowed to bomb Sacramento using the K system, a particularly educational event.
I was also in the front seat of an F-94 based at Hamilton AFB near San Francisco when radar vectored us on a lead collision intercept of a B-29 out over the ocean. The F-94 was an F-80 with 24 unguided rockets in the nose and an afterburner. When we approached the bomber from the side at about 400 knots I noticed the pilot behind me breathing heavily. As we approached the bomber it looked like we would hit it, but we passed probably 50 or a hundred yards behind, shuddering mightily as we went through the bomber's turbulence. I then understood the reason for the heavy breathing. Let me tell you that those Germans attacking the American bombers must have been terrified - and brave.
As a USAFA cadet I instructed the incoming class on the M-39 cannon used in first and second generation American jet fighters (it was a copy of the Mauser 214 which was still in development at the end of WW II). One of the teaching tools I used was a row of foot square aluminum panels mounted on a board which had been struck by an explosive 20mm cannon round. The last of the blast dented the 17th aluminum panel after going through the first 16. At the first panel the hole was about 4" in diameter, which extended for almost 6" into the aluminum sheets which were about an inch apart, and then the number of fragments decreased as it went through more panels.
As I walked back with the crew after the B-47 ride I asked what the success rate for survival was for those who bailed out of the door I had been instructed to use if necessary and was informed that it was nil. Nobody had ever survived when they bailed out using that door. The crew all had ejection seats.
was "nacht musik" not the name of the radar in these planes?
And the system you mentioned called Schrage music(jazz)
Ima SuperPerson in 1943 exploded a Lancaster after a attack from a Me 110 night fighter.All members died, and the pilot from the Me 110, the radioman baild out and survived.
Sabra S Great post, Sabra. Thanks and regards from the UK.
Great singer enjoyed for years
+Tarnuk From Broombog The system he mentioned is Schräge Musik, which was a colloquial term for Jazz, it means "strange music".
The radar systems usually were named after cities like the Lichtenstein.
While the British were making their less accurate nighttime air raids and hitting civilians, the U.S. was bombing only during the day, and U.S. bombing policy against Germany remained strictly precision bombing against industrial and military targets.
Added for replies: I know Russia was the reason Germany lost. The point I am making is that declaring war on America assured defeat no matter what may have occurred. As I clearly said below if anything may have been different. In a "what if context" that allowed German victory or extension of the war in it's area it would still have been subject to atomic destruction. While America was not the reason for victory it did make it assured. While declaring war on Russia was the reason for victory it was by no means assured.
Great videos. Thanks for sharing them. Hitlers ultimate big mistake among the many debated to be the one that doomed him was declaring war on America who was developing nuclear weapons. No matter what may have turned out different that may have extended or provided potential victory to the German war effort would only have served to present additional targets for nuclear weapons. There was never any hope for German victory once these weapons had started development.
there is no debate, declaring war against the US wasn't his downfall as much as fighting a war on 2 huge fronts, even without the US he still was fighting a war on 2 fronts, that's where he made his mistake. Russia had the people to hold Hitler off. even though Hitler gained a lot of ground in Russia, the Germans lost a lot of its army in doing so where Russia still had tons of other people in their army.
Russia turned the tide of the war at Kursk, once and for all ( this with supplies and intelligence from the West ) D-day was more to secure western Europe from Stalin than to defeat Germany, western supplies and intelligence not withstanding 25 million plus Soviet people bought this victory for mankind.
exactly
The US like to pretend they were the big decider but simply they done Shit all and Russia done mkst/ all most everything and I ,if my speakers come through, will be making vids on this on my vid channel
A he'll of a lot more? Are u kidding? Look at the stats not just did Russia take more German and japanees land they also Fucking killed the most enemies as well as defended against might of Germany, u say defending again at Germany is like a easy thing. France fell so easily and the UK would have if Germany were not stupid enough to start war on so many fronts. Not just did Germany have superior tanks and weapons and planes. They also had way superior tactics and training then any country. This was due to the restriction s placed on the after world war one that meant they could only have a tiny army. So this led to only the best of the best being in the army who then we're in charge of training when world war 2 was approaching. Their tactics allowed them to retreat defend Sicily with very little death, maximum death on US and UK troops when they were not even supported by italy. They then preceded to visibly invade Italy and take controlled of its army. Their Luftwaffe (air force) was the Fucking best. Their tanks could not be penetrated by a lot of tanks. So what the fuck do u mean by suggesting it was easy to defend against. You are not educated on the facts like u didn't even know Russia invaded a lot of Japan land and got to Berlin first as well as killed more than 90 percent of the axis troops and liberated most of the death camps
For those interested in more detailed information on the war between Germany and the USSR, there are two decent series available (free at the moment) on Hulu, The Unknown War and Soviet Storm - WWII In The East.
u can watch it here on youtube
1:22:35 so it was Britain who decided to bomb civilian targets not Hitler as it is often used as an excuse.
The first cities bombed in World War Two were in Poland in 1939. bombed by the Germans, the first RAF bombs did not fall on Germany until well into 1940
Alan Moore Yes but they targeted military targets not civilians. We are talking about different kind of bombing campaign here.
poligon333 Wrong, Polish cities were carpet bombed in 1939, what the Germans would later call 'Terror Bombing,' And what of Gurnica in Spain, terror bombed by the German Condor Legion even before WW2 started.
I dodnt know about those. Will check it out , still it is a murder and because the Brits did it also they are not justified to claim higher ground in an argument. They were not better .
poligon333 Go siege of Warsaw, 40.000 civilians were killed in Warsaw alone by Germans, it is shelling and bombing and that is just city in Poland. Also look up Guernica which was bombed by the Condor Legion before the war. I will tell you though I agree that the British and American bombing offensive was wrong, it is wrong to target civilians no matter how evil the regime is, after all two wrongs don't make a right. I disagree however when you say Britain was not better, the RAF and the USAAF bombing campaign can no way be compared to the horrors of the holocaust, a holocaust, a holocaust that did not only kill Jews but millions of others, not only in the camps but through starvation by shipping food from the east to Germany and to feed their armies, all told apart from the 16 million Jews who died 11 million others , mostly Soviet citizens who died as a result of the starvation (The Ukraine was very badly hit) all told 17 million victims
Why is TH-cam publishing videos that have contrast and brightness problems? It seems to be their doing and not that of the up-loaders.
i think churchill knew that bombing berlin would make hitler mad and switch bonbing from r.a.f. airfields to london and save the r.a.f....but churchill could not make that idea public as it would bring backlash...if hitler kept bombing the r.a.f. airfields for another month, they would have been destroyed.
That's the key. Target the innocent not military installations.
Churchill sacrificed the people to win. Ugly b!stard.
I think you're right - - as Hitler called the buzz-bomb "V-1" - for "VENGEANCE weapon #1".
I think that is interesting. I did not think about that. Britain was in very dire straights.
Anyone notice they misspelled battlefield in the title?
I just noticed, now that mention it. Vasile get your act together!
If you think about it for a minute, you'd realize that it shouldn't be pointed out.
Flying B-17s and B-24s over German territory and occupied territory in daylight was completely different from flying a Lancaster or any of the other British bombers over German territory during darkness.
The American bombers flew in at least a half dozen formations during daylight to the targets before Curtis Lemay designed a formation that proved worth keeping. Prior to that a bomb would sometimes take the tail off a plane below it, so the object was to allow the bombs to make it through the lower squadrons without hitting a bomber.
The American bombers were not able to use severe maneuvers to avoid flak or fighters, though except for the time from the IP (initial point) to bombing the target they continually jinked to avoid flak. Bombers shot down were usually stragglers that had lost engines or otherwise suffered reduced power and thus reduced airspeed. Bombers able to stay in formation usually made it back to base.
I learned to fly in the USAF at Graham AB north of Mariana, FL in 1960 and at Craig AFB, AL in 1961. John Johnson, my flight instructor at Graham had been the aircraft commander of a B-17 bombing Germany in 1944 when he lost an engine prior to the target where they dropped their bombs, another engine over the target, a third on the way to Sweden about the time a stubby Swedish fighter motioned downward where they were expected to follow the fighter to a Swedish airfield. Johnson then lost his last engine just before touching down in Sweden, thus being the only American pilot to dead-stick a B-17 in Sweden during the war. At the graduation party he showed his three students a newspaper account in Swedish of his landing with a picture of the crew in front of the plane in the background.
The B-17 could make it up over 30,000', high enough to avoid the '88 flack, but they usually flew lower than that and were subject to flak. The B-24 was also subject to flak.
The Brits flew at much lower altitudes, generally at 10,000' or lower. They also staggered the altitudes in 100' increments between bombers so as to minimize collisions because instead of formations they flew in streams with only one pilot. Besides him sat an engineer who was there in order to handle the switches basically and land the plane in case the pilot was dead or injured.
Beams lead the Brits to their targets where pathfinder planes, usually Mosquitos, had dropped flares that enabled them to drop their bombs hopefully on the area of the city in question. The Butts report concluded that the average miss distance for
British bombs was 7 miles, totally unacceptable. That later improved, but only slightly.
A British bomber sensing an enemy fighter on its tail dove and maneuvered radically in an attempt to shake the fighter. For awhile a device labeled Monica warned the British crews of a fighter behind them, but that was removed about 7 months after it went into service when it was discovered that the Germans were using Monica to home in on the bombers.
At the end the German brass reported that the American attacks on industry, aircraft and tank factories, and petroleum production, both natural and synthetic was more effective than area bombing. The Americans called it precision bombing, but they still had a CEP (circular area of probability) measured in miles.
For both countries the loss of life among the bomber crews was percentage-wise the highest on the Allied side, with the crewmen on the submarines having the second highest casualty rate. Only the almost 70% loss rate of the U-boat crews exceeded the Allied bomber crew loss rate.
The tonnage of bombs dropped on N. Vietnam in the '60s and '70s was 3.8 times that dropped on Europe in WW II. In no case in history has a nation surrendered solely because of bombs being dropped on it - even Japan in WW II. There, the imminent invasion by the Americans and their allies and the Soviets taking the Kuriles and also being ready to invade was likely more of the reason they surrendered than the bombing, horrible though it was.
The RAF lost too many bombers in the early days our theit bombing campaign during daylight hours, ans so they switched to night bombing. Just like the Luftwaffe had to over Britain.
Now I understand the Plucky Brits done their best, but the Americans done the real damage with their precision bombing which only the Americans could employ. Wow sounds like a Disney film script, but that can't be true because Disney specialise in fantasy films don't they?
This is such an excellent series. I would recommend the "line of fire" series and ww2 in color. Battlefield vietnam is also very relaxing.
A little too much braggadocio vignettes about the British Air Force in WW2
why r all the other video's blocked in country? eagle rock? where else can i watch them? anyone?
Surprised they left off the Mosquito??
That was a helluva design (which I feel the US should have licensed.).
It was almost fully made of fckn wood 😂😂😂. Many people died before even landing on TESTING. Bro, I'm so glad you never worked for the air force 😂
1:11:45
"(Wild Boar) was not always popular, as single engine fighters were not well suited for the night fighting role."
Does anyone know why that is? Why would the 109 or the 190 be unqualified for use in night defensive missions? The reasons I can think of might be that your daylight interceptors needed down time for repair, crew maintenance, and pilot rest. But that doesn't mean the plane is unqualified. That was why the Blenheim was used during the Battle of Britain in 1940. The Spitfire and Hurricans pilots could fly only so many sorties in a given day. The second reason might be the limited range of the 109/190s, which would mean they wouldn't have the time to loiter at night looking for a British bomber formation.
Other than those two, I can't see any reason why a single engine pursuit interceptor wouldn't work at night (unless they all turn into vampires or moonlight in a plane themed adult film career where they sell their tail turret for $20 a trick, or something).
Does anyone have any ideas?
The list of British bomber types had one glaring omission. The one bomber that carried no defensive machine guns; instead, relying on speed. The De Haviland Mosquito, which was capable of flying at over 400mph at altitude, was fast enough to be extremely hard to intercept, and could carry up to 4,000 lbs. of bombs.
cool i might subscribe
The lies being furthered here are why America and the World is where we are today. Only one people have prospered over all. Americans are in for sad days ahead.
I'm not really sure that's Germany at 1:10, as it looks very, very much like the Dome cathedral and St. Martin at my hometown Riga, Latvia. Front scene then must be the part of historical center (one with a small tower on the right being town council) that got damaged so badly, ruins were teared down soon after war, and only a number of historic buildings were built anew in late 1990s - early 2000s.
The victors decide what are war-crimes!!
+Bob Mountford war is a crime...
A very keen and astute observation that you made there, Mr. Bob Mountford. Great stuff! Truly.
I hear that the number one main reason supporting that fact... is highly due to the losers being dead, therefore making their brains cease to function... and because of that one vital issue... they lose the ability to decide anything at all.
Stupid Guy Productions war is crime especially if they kill civilians intentionally. Bombing raids against cities were crimes regardless which country did it.
all were war crimes or crimes against humanity. the wars did not solve anything. history made the judgment over all ideologies, which were against humanity. but war crimes by victors have never been investigated (comited by soviets and western allies).
Love the Battlefield series.
130,000 people killed during Dresden raid is insane
I really wish someone would develop a realistic addicting video game for this aspect of the war. There are very few. Il2 sturmovick about the only one
You could honestly make a game that dedicates itself to having realistic battles and competent AI capable of like, leading charges and making maneuvers and have it play through any modern war (1900+) and it would be bussin'
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excuse me, to whom it may concern, i believe the title may have a slight typo. thanks for posting friend!~
They've spelled it 'Batlle" in other YT vids as well.
England bombed houses, before Germany.
Why all the jumping back and forth in the timeline? I would much prefer a steady timeline showing the progression of bomber development, rather than starting over with early planes every 10 minutes. I gave up on this video at 55:00.
"razed" as in leveled.
I just uploaded 2 more of the rare episodes of "Battle for the Mediterranean" and "Guadalcanal" episodes of this same series, they were previously unavailable on youtube, i shared them under fair use now so enjoy :)
People make the mistake of judging the actions of the past from the perspective of today. To appreciate history you have to put yourself in the time and place. You may find yourself being more understanding. Was it wrong to bomb German cities? From today's perspective, yes. From the perspective of the time, it's not so black and white. What makes us great is that we progress by looking back and saying "let's not do that again."
Sri, at 26:53, the aeroplane shown here is a British Short Stirling, the nose and bomb bay is undeniable.
You guys really dropped the ball with Jimmy Doolittle. He was a leader in the field of aviation during the interwar years and retained his reserve commission. He got a degree in aeronautical engineering from MIT. He was the first person to fly a plane from takeoff to landing 100% on instruments. He won numerous air races during the interwar years. His most famous accomplishment was as leader of the raid which bears his name. The Doolittle Raid. He led 16 Army bombers which took off from the deck of the aircraft carrier USS Hornet and was the first allied operation to drop bombs on mainland Japan. It was a huge propaganda victory on the home front and was a psychological blow to Japan as well in spite of the fact that the 16 B-25 medium bombers which had to carry an extensive load of additional fuel for their long trip actually did very little real damage. He was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor and was jumped from LtCol to Major General, THEN he began his rise in charge of various large operational commands concluding with his command the the US 8th Air Force which was the US unit based in Britain which bombed Germany as you mentioned in your video.
I mean I see your point, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say that they dropped the ball. He wasn’t a major figure in the German air war. Hes most known for the raid in which bears his name. I don’t see how this program could have even integrated him into its discussion.
+ Michael Bond
Did you notice animosity from the French for Churchill's strategic actions on their navy? I think it took a lot of guts to do what he did. It must have been gut wrenching for him to order the attack.
When the British makes warcrimes, its called "Controversial" lol
The Wellington had Bristol Pegasus radial engines, not inline RR Merlins.
Germany only got back what they first gave out!!
Germans got back what the Nazi's first gave out.
the truth about what really happened is hidden. this video is full of slanted inaccuracies. you are mostly correct. the saarland was to be voted on according to the treaty, and decided if it was to be given back to germany it was not. the danzig corridor was full of atrocities against german people and was part of germany before ww1 and many other parts he retook.but the people in those areas clearly wanted him too. austria voted fairly to be annexed with a 98% sweep approving. and get this france invaded germany BEFORE germany invaded france ,with many divisions about 8 kilometers into the german interior,before being repelled.
i'll bet you havent heard that one. why????? because the rothschilds controlled media doesnt want people to know the truth. the truth is both sides were played like puppets and painted as devils to the other side. the whole damn thing ww1 and ww2 was ALL orchestrated by the bankster murdering rothschilds family and friends even grandma rothschilds said QUOTE" there would be NO wars unless my sons wanted them" .
HappyandAtheist You should change your name to HappyandUninformed :-)
HappyandAtheist Your grandparents almost became a victim of the war started by Nazi's led by Hitler and his gang of criminals.. The Nazi's extreme views also led to many other (well-known and acknowledged by a vast majority of Germans) horrible crimes.
Here is the definition of Nazi according to Oxford
www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Nazi
If you wish to believe ALL Germans had these qualities during the period in question, you are certainly free to do so.
HappyandAtheist And you are a fake, kiddo. If your grandparents had lived in England, your English would be better.
It's "you are" or you're" for your information.
Nice try.
Did anyone notice that the Handley-Page Halifax and Handley-Page Hampden were both left out of this documentary?
Yep i did, its a disgrace to the brave crews who flew them.
I think it's strange, because the HP Halifax was a lot better than the Stirling.
True mate, but the Short Stirling would of been the best heavy bomber of the war if they had'nt had to shorten the wing span. I think the video is inacurate due to no mention of the Halifax.
Ian Bluemink Ian, the Halifax wasn't that good until they realized in the Mk. III that an expanded wing and four Hercules engines would bring the aircraft to its full potential. By that point, it's reputation never fully recovered, though she was certainly rugged and brought more than her fair share of crews home.
John Smith A MK 3 didn't bring my half brother home---5 days from wars end, and the LAST bombing raid on the Krauts.--Fate eh?
I am german and not whining about the bombing of german cities. The nazis did it to London, too. But don't excuse the actions of the american and royal air force. I can understand the bombing runs on the industrial complex in west germany, but bombing Dresden, my hometown with thousands of incendiary bombs and burning it to the ground was pure terrorism.
No putting people in church's and burning it to the ground like the 2nd SS did at Oradour-sur-Glane was pure terrorism. Bombing cities was part of total war. Dresden was a hub of war production, and the RAF methods were no different then their urban bombing campaign against Hamburg and various towns in the Ruhr, or the LW bombing of Coventry and Stalingrad. Key point, the Allies didn't continue to bomb and kill civilians after the towns were overrun or the enemy surrendered. Different from how your country practiced the war, for exampled 60,000 Poles died during the invasion of Poland, yet 6 million perished DURING German occupation of Poland, AFTER the country had surrendered. Or Belarussia where 25% of the civilian population died during the 3 year German occupation.
Dresden was stupid because by 1945 the RAF didn't need to waste bombs on urban bombing, they were already smashing pinpoint targets like synthetic oil and rail depots. A lack of air superiority necessitated nighttime urban bombing until mid 1944. After that there was really no need to keep doing it because the RAF could operate by day, and their tech was so could they could do almost as well at night hitting pinpoint targets.
Thumbs, Es gab keinen direkten Befehl Hitlers nach London bombardiert wurde, und auch dann nur ein Flugzeug bombardiert, es war nur eine Ausrede, nur ein Vorwand, um bombardiert Berlin werden.// Thumbs There was no direct orders from Hitler to London was bombed, and even then only a plane bombed, it was just an excuse, just an excuse to be bombed Berlin.
Colin Kelly The polish were no angels and their activities against minorities is well documented. None of the neighbour countries was happy with the polish. With the Nazis as a rulig party conflict was pre-programmed. The English backed the Polish and by doing so they fueled a conflict that led to a German attack.
So the Polish and the English started WW2. Inially they were beaten and by involving increasingly more countries (Soviets, US) the war activities got out of their control. The Germans are no angels but they did not have a history in atrocities, but the English/British did (Irish, Boeers, Bengalis ...mostely by starving them to death). The Germans could not surrender. How? To an enemy that is going to kill wives and kids? The allie of the English starved 100thausends of POWs to death - after surrender. The German population suffered decades after surrender. The bombing of the civillians is testimony that the idea of WW2 was the extermination of the Germans, most probably because they had the best economy at that time.
But this is all good, so I bastard exist.
What else would you expect from W. Churchill,Roosevelt and Stalin than the most cynical terrorism at its purest?
Have to agree even though I'm English. The war for Germany was over by the time of the bombing of Dresden. The bombing had more to do with Harris's desire to prove wars could be won by bombing alone than any strategic imperative. It wasnt necessary but I wouldnt call it terrorism. Having said that would Hitler have been any less merciless.
Why was the Ploesti Oilfield located in Southern Poland on that map...
If Germany had prevailed, many of the R.A.F. command structure would have most definitely been subject to War Crimes Against Humanity just as their foes were.
Quite possible.
Gregory Nasrallah I wish you were joking but I know you aren't. You seriously think that Nazi Germany would hold war crime trials?
Bcubed is right. If Germany had won and was particularly angry with a captured allied commander, they would just execute them, almost certainly without trial.
***** It' a hypothetical scenario, so to what degree can one be serious? The Germans did have trials for some of the July 20th. conspirators. They might have used trials for political purposes, just as the Nuremberg trials were after the war. To the German civilian population that suffered under these attacks, trials might make for great theater.
***** From what I can surmise from most of the comments, there is no admiration of the British policy concerning Germany. Your point about a power shift is well taken. Why else would Britain not make peace? As far as your view on the Soviet Union, Germany most likely prevented it's conquest of Western Europe.
***** The Soviet Union did fuck Europe up the ass.How many countries did they control before your hero embarked on his historical mission?
Cant wait to watch thisss
"slannmage"
Your conclusions are all wrong.
Without America, Germany England would have overrun, with superior technology, and englishman would now speak German.
I'm just saying Dünkürchen (Dunkirk)?
Germany had the best scientist, and was years advance, and the Allied shown how to fight really correct.
Without America's help England totally lost.
Not true. The battle of Britain changed everything. Unable to conquer England she was left to shrivel on the vine however she won the battle of the Atlantic, with American help. She had never the ability to invade and overcome England that is the point here. Even without a two front war it is doubtful she could have conquered England. England had proven she had the resources to defend herself. America had the resources to win the war. All over in 1940
Warren Fox Germany chances of success:
1. Only one front against the British and Americans
2. The Messerschmitt Me-262 1 year earlier use (Germany air superiority recaptured)
3. Hitler to hear his best generals (Rommel, Guderian, Manstein)
4. Construction of 400 submarines of the type XXI (6 weeks under water)
5. construction of 1000 Tiger Tank additional
6. Factor "Großdeutschland" with WaffenSS and Wehrmacht
Not quite true........remember it was England who gave the Nazis their first defeats, such as the Battle of Britain, and in North Africa.........and it was England who was the only country left, to put up resistance, once Hitlers war machine had taken over mainland Europe. The Germans were very courageous people, but it was their insane leader with his military blunders that cost them the war!
I dont think the Germans ever had the capacity to of ever mounted a massed land evasion of the UK.
I mean our archers in our castles, would of taken care of any of the enemy landing on our beaches..........:)
The areas where the allies were the leaders were electronics, radar, computing. This really proved to be vital for administration intelligence gathering and logistics. These force multipliers were crucial in the long run. Technological breakthroughs were developed by German but she lacked the ability to capitalise. At the end of the war she had plenty of advanced fighters but nobody to fly them. The allies understood the concept of force multipliers and logistics on a grand scale. Even the battle of Britain was a battle of logistics rather than technical superiority. The Germans could not understand why there was still an English Airforce after 6 weeks of intense warfare. She lost her chance, she new it. The battle of the Atlantic was a battle of technology. Improved radar and sonar and weapons finally changed the course of this war. The technological advances by all the fighting forces were incredible and the refinement of jet technology by Germany is still with us . It goes to show that wars are not always on technology alone, but how it is applied.
Great documentaries. What´s with the format here that one can no longer reply below previous comments? In reply to Le civin, no question that in a war of attrition, it was the Soviets who mainly wore down the German war machine. The Germans, however, made a huge strategic error in not sufficiently investing in the Luftwaffe. It´s a main cause as to why they lost on both fronts.
The Germans invested in their submarine force that almost defeated England. But if we look in today's events we realize that the Germans finally learn their lesson and conquered Europe economically, even though they rose from the ashes twice in the 20th century. Having lived there for three years I have noticed how seriously each one of them took their job. Even the door bells had an air about them that they opened the door for you, but they were the boss. I have mixed feelings about them. The English and French I disliked Italians were OK and the Russians were forceful, just like us.
***** The Germans were not the only ones to invest in submarines, Britain did too, it is a little know fact that Britain actually had more submarines than the Germans in 1939
Alan Moore I was not aware of that. I wonder, why didn't picket the German sub bases on the west coast and attack their subs before they cause all that damage. I guess it is easy to critic 70 years after the fact.
We killed more civilians than soldiers.. horrible stuff.
The concentrated attacks during “Big Week” in February 1944, dealt the Luftwaffe a blow from which it never fully recovered. Largely because of P-51s and P-38s using new tactics, flying ahead of US bombers and clearing a path, the Luftwaffe in Western Europe wrote off 34 percent of its fighter strength in January, another 56 percent in February. Production of Bf 109 and Fw 190 fighters continued but did not make up for the attrition. Because of the heavy bombing of German synthetic oil facilities, supplies of aviation fuel dropped from 180,000 tons in April, to 50,000 tons in July, and 10,000 tons in August. This was largely why the Luftwaffe was absent from D-Day.
The allies had complete air superiority well before Feb 1945. They already had the German air force as a non issue before D-Day in June of 1944. Big Week was the area fire bombing of German cities that were already rubble.
Your right about fuel shortage with Romania long taken over by Russia by Feb 1945. Any fuel was going to ground forces since Hitler lost all confidence in the Luftwaffe long ago. They ran out of fuel for the battle of the Bulge and that was 2 months before Big Week.
The Germans could build planes but pilots and fuel shortage kept them on the ground. The Russia's were getting ready to knock at Berlin's door by Feb 1945. Allied bombing at that late stage of the war was not speeding or slowing the arrival of the Russians at Hitler's Bunker.
I was talking about Feb 1944. The Luftwaffe was still very effective before that, even though it was getting worst of it, it was still making good most of it's losses. When the 8th Air Force went after the German oil fields in Jan and Feb, and needed fighter escort, Leigh Mallory objected to the operation because he believed the fighters should be trained and readied to support the D-Day operation instead. Eisenhower decided in favor of the 8th Air Force, and he was right. The Luftwaffe was not only decimated in this operation, protecting their synthetic oil fields, but what remained of it, was pulled out of France. The allies had the badly needed total air domination on D-Day, as all amphibious operations must have, and they got it because of this operation. (Air superiority is not enough for an amphibious operation. It must be total air domination.) I think allied fighters shooting it out with Luftwaffe fighters over the Channel, may have boded ill for the invasion, even if the allies got the better of the shoot-out.
Sorry I thought I was thinking Feb 1945 . Here is a go read www.combinedfleet.com/economic.htm The US could have beat 3 Germany's on it's own.
Sorry, your link failed. The Germans did have some advantages that were hard to overcome, and all allies, British, American, and Russian contributed to the defeat of Germany in an indispensable way.
www.combinedfleet.com/economic.htm
The only bad thing about these documentaries is they go into way too much backstory leading up to the main topic. We don't need 30 minutes of every episode to discuss the origins of the war.
Agree, anyone tuning in to watch this…knows the history.
Naught point 303...
How is it that guy didn't get strangled? Not kidding. How many times would YOU say "naught point" ? How many times would you listen to it, without doing something about it? Something calculated to be effective. As in, "Stop That!"
I remember watching and recording all of these excellent programs when they first aired here in the US on PBS. Among the best docs on the war, I think, but not without errors. For example, the B-17 production run went well over 12,000, not the 8 k stated here. And the Army Air Force didn’t end the war with the biggest and most powerful air forces in the world, but the most powerful and largest…and of you include naval air, no contest at all.
"the biggest and most powerful air forces in the world, but the most powerful and largest"
I'm not seeing the distinction you're making.
@@chipsawdust5816 Yeah, I wasn't at all clear...biggest and most powerful are two different things...the Soviet Air Force at the end had probably more airplanes than the USAAF (but not the USAAF plus the USN), but the USAAF certainly was the most powerful with their fleets of heavy and medium bombers.
Churchill was a conservative which brings enemies who are much less knowledgable & seek their own wealth rather than sacrificing for the good of their neighbors. We have just seen a major shift toward conservatism in Britain & the U.S. . Thanks be to GOD!
wait, what will come out of it
The anglo union is suffering now for fighting on the wrong side in Europe.
Well, we just couldn't and wouldn't tolerate Jew murderers. The Nazis had made Germany morally bankrupt, even before the fighting started, even before the camps in Poland.
Dresden most certainly was a military target: It was a transportation hub for the eastern half of Germany. That's also why there were so many refugees from the East there.
First Britain betrays Czechoslovakia and its well developed industry to Hitler , then declares war after Poland is attacked but do nothing, then when is too late decide to respond but can do shit and is near defeat then US join and support it and suddenly Britain is brave enough to target civilians burning them alive from above, then after war Britain gives away what doesn't belong to it to the even bigger asshole then Hitler , to Stalin, the whole eastern Europe , its formal allies by the way. Well done Britain you were cowardly and a very bad ally.
Well said.
And you are a Nazi sympathiser and Hitler humper so f2£%"^%£"^"£ you !
Sympathizer, ja. Humper, nein.
John Cornell Not at all. If it weren't for Great Britain's desire to rule the world we probably never would have had 2 world wars in the first place. The Germans didn't want to rule the entire world (or even Britain); they only wanted freedom from foreign oppression and the right to self-determination.
utter bollocks
AMAZING SERIES. This is probably the most informative WWII documentary series you will ever watch....watch for trolls in the comments though, and ENJOY!
"Butcher" Harris
The Germans requested him.
Lancaster was once looped.
Not entirely a voluntary action on the part of the pilot.
Apparently he had to pull up sharply to avoid another aircraft and a flak burst under the nose, pushing the plane up even more so the pilot had no choice but keep going into the loop.
This documentary is very inaccurate, and 80% up-plays the role of RAF night attacks and down-plays the importance of US daylight precision raids on German industry in ending the war.
Did anyone else pick up on the woman vocals- rammstein, sonne?
This commentator keeps inferring that the RAF was the worlds best air force, not even close, the US Army Air Corp dwarfed it and had better aircraft. The Luftwaffe had the best pilots and aircraft, but lacked a true heavy bomber force and was way over extended.
Luftwaffe aircraft were some of the best at the start of the war, but were eventually eclipsed by American fighters.
And while they had some of the best pilots at the start of the war, attrition was decreasing the quality of the pilots serving as replacements were sent up. Meanwhile the US not only kept adding ever more planes, it had the advantage of more of its pilots gaining experience as they faced a force who was diminishing in skill and capability.
The introduction of jet planes were of little significance, mostly because of their very limited range and that the US & UK were also starting to introduce jets at the wars end. The German jet advantage was of getting them into service a few months earlier.
Oh Gregory please name one American plane that was better than it's British counterpart. At this point most Americans name the Mustang, but wait it was crap without a British merlin engine and even then it couldn't compete with the later marks of Spitfire. The Germans had the best pilots, really. Never heard of the Battle of Britain then.
In conclusion I think you are just a sad little Brit hatter with a huge chip on your shoulder.
On the contrary, I like the British, but this war should have been nipped in the bud. Making peace in 1940 would have saved the lives of countless millions and would have saved Britain it's empire. The merlin engines, although British in design, were used in P-51s but were manufactured in the U.S. under license. In fighter to fighter engagements during the B.O.B, the luftwaffe prevailed despite the disadvantage of limited time over target areas. R.A.F. victories in the air were mostly against slower and vulnerable bombers. The B-17 was the best bomber, but the best fighter of the war can be argued.
They inferred nothing..they might have implied it, you then inferred it...