My Favorite Way To Get The Right Proportions For a Portrait

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  • @theart7111
    @theart7111 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    I paint for a living, and I must say, your a really good teacher. You say things that I have never been able to put into words.

    • @paintcoach
      @paintcoach  ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Thanks! I really appreciate you saying that.

    • @pranjalshelar3830
      @pranjalshelar3830 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And you've said what i couldn't say....

    • @chinchillamdgamer
      @chinchillamdgamer ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You have my dream job. And uh, I'm actually a doctor.

    • @manjitkapri1816
      @manjitkapri1816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chinchillamdgamer good job

    • @Kkajo
      @Kkajo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@chinchillamdgamer it's never too late to start

  • @Pavelek88
    @Pavelek88 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    It's uplifting to see that PROs are still struggling with the same things as beginners do :) Overcome problems with confidence built by experience, that's the main diference :)

  • @spiritscraft
    @spiritscraft ปีที่แล้ว +48

    As a beginner I used to make the mistake of completely finishing one eye before starting the other and I could never get them to match! Working large to small amd general to details all over the picture in stages is so muchbetter fir getting a good likeness. Much easier to catch mistakes early and correct them too.

  • @ktuukk
    @ktuukk ปีที่แล้ว +59

    just wanted to start a painting, been struggling to get the proportions on my sketch right and tadaaa, you uploaded the solution for all my problems :DD such a magician

    • @eileenjohnston6835
      @eileenjohnston6835 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use the proportional divider all the time. Works great and is fast!

  • @dorryrice6797
    @dorryrice6797 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    You are a great artist - your portraits are magic, but if possible , you’re an even better teacher. You have the ability to remember your journey and communicate it to us! You know where you had a problem and figured out most of us would have the same issue. I’m on the patronnpag3, and I love faces, so when I can manage it, your portrait course is next.

  • @juliebabb3365
    @juliebabb3365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Chris, appreciate your simple straight forward approach.

  • @40bdg
    @40bdg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, exactly what I needed! I'm definitely going to give this method a try. You are right, it does seem scary when I am used to using a grid, but like you addressed in the video, that doesn't always work either. Thanks for the tips!

  • @ms.denise5678
    @ms.denise5678 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm glad I found you. I just started back into portrait painting....and I like how well you explain and demonstrate.

  • @daveemilio67
    @daveemilio67 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video. So well explained and stresses the importance of being able to draw. ( a weakness I’ve developed from not drawing enough)

  • @mickywoolf120
    @mickywoolf120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your tips and techniques! I'm learning a lot! For the time being just watching, soon will go back to drawing and painting. Thank you so much, the way you explain things is very clear and easy to understand. 😊From Portugal

  • @rtaber3065
    @rtaber3065 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your content is so good. I'm glad you made it. I'm gonna pick one of these proportional dividers and try it out. I've always used the end of my paintbrush and used scotch tape to set notches for checking.

  • @superkeyman100
    @superkeyman100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man ! Been painting for years living in Ireland and found your videos soo! Refreshing and teaching the right way , to be honest and objective and learn for mistakes we all make 👍

  • @StClair008
    @StClair008 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This video appeared on my TH-cam screen and for some reason I decided to watch it and this guy is an excellent teacher. I paint in watercolor (used to paint in oils) but still found value in what was presented.. I have a proportional divider and have found it an incredibly useful tool. Also, his method of painting is solid and good to think about even when using watercolor light to dark. Creating a poster sketch first is a good way to work for that (he makes me miss painting in oils). Just keeping the concepts in mind is helpful and I like the way he presents them in a no nonsense way. He seems to have a fresh memory of having learned himself which is great for helping people who are just starting out.

  • @jeanetteclark9530
    @jeanetteclark9530 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Am ordering a proportional divider. Wish I had known about this tool years ago! Thanks so much! I know it’s gonna be much better than what I’ve been doing. Like you, I’ve tried just about everything to get that proportion right. Thanks for your advice and expertise, you’re a very good teacher! I enjoy your videos.

  • @grghkllb3875
    @grghkllb3875 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Hey Chris, been watching you for a few years now and noticed you're really starting to come into your own as an artist, especially portraits. Nice job, looking forward to seeing what you do in the future.

  • @markaszkenasy7395
    @markaszkenasy7395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s undoubtably the best video on portrait painting I’ve ever watched. Thank you!!

  • @julianaolejkova4210
    @julianaolejkova4210 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for your videos and for the possibility that thanks to you I look at the art from a different perspective. I always find motivation not to give up after watching it. ( I apologize If my grammar is not correct. Greet from Slovakia)

  • @themishening
    @themishening ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I thought I was alone with using this method! I like to get a rough sketch down, block in then sculpt away the mistakes. Perfect measuring has never been my strong suit and I used to be really bothered by it until I found this technique.

  • @oatmeal
    @oatmeal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your tutorials are so great! Thank you for making these.

  • @vartanarakelian4643
    @vartanarakelian4643 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am a begginer and this is great especially I was struggling measuring with pencil, but Proportional Divider is the best I think.

  • @tyroneperry5008
    @tyroneperry5008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot. I been stuck a long time on proportions. You gave me insight on why I keep failing and repeating the same mistakes by getting too serious too soon.

  • @eliasandrinopoulos8746
    @eliasandrinopoulos8746 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome! Very cool technique, advice, and demonstration! So psyched to hit the canvas again tomorrow! 👏🏻😊🎙🙏🏻

  • @seafirend
    @seafirend ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Exactly the video I needed! Thanks Chris great vid as always.

  • @paintnknit
    @paintnknit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your drawing suggestions. Beautiful artwork.

  • @graces4506
    @graces4506 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the tutorial it was very helpful.

  • @mick-2098
    @mick-2098 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a reallly great tutorial! So useful and concise!

  • @claires9100
    @claires9100 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such good advice. Thanks for sharing this technique.

  • @rebeccateakle3674
    @rebeccateakle3674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much good info in this, clear delivery and loved it

  • @sal5811
    @sal5811 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Used to paint this way all the time and it actually helped me paint with the trace and grid method

  • @p.k.carlson6646
    @p.k.carlson6646 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really great reminders, Thanks!

  • @pch2230
    @pch2230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such a good tutorial. Big to small, avoiding tracing and grids (particular bugbears for me), simple to complicated, prioritising shapes and accuracy - all things that are vital to realistic painting, whatever the subject.

  • @mwartz
    @mwartz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Chris, I have just recently seen you on TH-cam as I am making a portfolio for college, your videos are very easy to follow and your a very good teacher and I've learned a lot from your videos 😊 🎨👍, thank you

  • @hcanderson3787
    @hcanderson3787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid, thanks so much! I will definitely be trying out that proportional divider

  • @7Earthsky
    @7Earthsky ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this is the best method for me to find a likeness in portraits....Will definitely give this a go.

  • @PaolaLaborda
    @PaolaLaborda ปีที่แล้ว

    I found your videos today and I really loved them, they are very helpful, I always love learning new techniques and improving my own skills, and your videos are *chef kiss* I think your style is really classic, and that makes it good for everything! because it is like following an old painter from 1880 haha, it doesn't matter if my style doesn't match yours because your advices and tricks and explanations are part of the basis, everyone that wants to learn how to paint or wants to improve their painting skills should just know. the things you are teaching Thank you!

  • @katygardner2741
    @katygardner2741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video! It was really well explained and I'm going to attempt this method in future 😊

  • @gwenmoore6034
    @gwenmoore6034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are sooo helpful!

  • @leonardodalongisland
    @leonardodalongisland ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT job. Nice break down of things

  • @penelopepowers6615
    @penelopepowers6615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your style. I use many tips from you. Thank you

  • @SingYourselfWell
    @SingYourselfWell 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you, Chris, this was so great!!!

  • @pranjalshelar3830
    @pranjalshelar3830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very very enlightening video i must say.... If someone is looking for a perfect guide video for portraita this is it.... I've learned so much... It's like an 800 pages book in 9 pages if you know what i mean... Thanks man🙌🙌

  • @claritzairosario68
    @claritzairosario68 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found your channel, and I love how you teach. Very interesting theme! Thank you, here a new subscriber!!!🥰💙🥰

  • @diannaantes5262
    @diannaantes5262 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad to find you. I am a beginner and I want to paint an old photo of my father with my sisters as we were growing up..
    I hope to eventually be capable of sketching and painting safely at this point .. I'm learning that I can't paint over my sketches yet without it being affected by the pencil ✏️ 😅

  • @dmp2461
    @dmp2461 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your process. Gonna give it a try.

  • @ThatJewyJesusChick
    @ThatJewyJesusChick ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Despite being a watercolor portrait artist-everything he says here translates perfectly-all painful and difficult lessons I’ve had to learn myself over the past few years of trying to hone in on my craft and create a routine manner of making my artwork. Excellent video!👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😉

  • @yeshuaiscomingbackrepent2357
    @yeshuaiscomingbackrepent2357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK YOU! That was perfectly taught! I am wanting to do oil portraits and I have a propotional divider like yours....but I could never use it properly. Great video! 🎨🖌🖋🖊😁

  • @ctee1117
    @ctee1117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a great teacher!

  • @randomlyswatching9481
    @randomlyswatching9481 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find your insights so attractive. It's like so intelligent

  • @RatusMax
    @RatusMax ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This method just works better. I leaned towards this when I started 2 years ago. Now thinking about it, It's kind of like calculus lol. (Hopefully that didn't scare you away. ) As the shapes get smaller and smaller, the painting looks more like the reference. (This is similar to how calculus works, as we keep splitting the squares under the curve to fit it, it starts to approximate the area under it)The thing is, if one get's very good at this shape building, they should realize it doesn't ever have to be detailed. As one looks at the painting, the question being asked is (whether they know it or not) "How little do I have to put in this painting to get the brain to fill in the rest of the information." I think that might be what Sargant was trying to accomplish.
    You know those magicians, pranksters, swindlers, neuroscientists, artists, game developers, etc? They all craft/find ways to make the brain overloaded with information (get the brain to focus on something else while having it ignore everything around it.), fill in things that are missing (The brain will sometimes try to fill in information from previous experiences of what it knows to be there), and just build on the known illusions/brain hacks the brain does to function in the world.
    The question I first asked myself when I started painting is "How can I get the likeness exact?" now ask myself is "How can I fool my brain into thinking these things are what I know with as little information as possible?"
    Watch a video called "The image you can only see once" on YT. It got me thinking, "Why waste time putting all the details in when the brain can do it for me?" The brain (at least mine lol) loves being engaged by filling it in as well.
    Most artists over the years know this consciously or unconsciously. When you start asking yourself how to trick the brain, the paintings can take a different feel to them. Random garbled mess up close can become order in the brain because one has found the key to perfectly allow it to fill in the information well.
    I don't have that skill yet lol not for another 3-5 years probably. I am still messing around with perspective and composition lol.

  • @rodcav3
    @rodcav3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tool ,....and well presented tutorial...by the way love the tribute portrait to Ray Liotta in the background..I'm also working on one also of Ray, James Caan and Tony Sirico....
    3 of the greats we lost this year (R.I.P.)

  • @chiricuttcomepapt5100
    @chiricuttcomepapt5100 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful class, maestro!

  • @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta
    @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I never really knew how to use that proportional divider and get the basic coordinates. I hate gridding and so this will be so useful! Thanks! 🥰

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 ปีที่แล้ว

      My method is just to draw or paint what I see, as I see it. I don't like grids, I don't like proportional dividers, and I very, very rarely use a reference photo. It just takes some practice, something that even many extremely good artists aren't willing to do.

    • @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta
      @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesaritchie1 Impressed that you rarely use a reference photo. If there are eyes involved I certainly want a pict to look at. Thought-provoking method ....

    • @granitrocky1129
      @granitrocky1129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamesaritchie1 Reference is not a dirty word. How do you draw what you see without a reference?

  • @jamesb2059
    @jamesb2059 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a fine teacher. Thank you.

  • @emilleum48
    @emilleum48 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is ret., military disabled from numerous combat injuries. I think you are a great painting teacher, but when you broke your value steps down into images that I could print-out. That is so much more valuable for me because I have troubles having to stop and start the videos. For people like me, please do more of these for others like me. I can also use theses to help me work-out other portraits, thank you,
    MSG Leum

    • @claireryan8074
      @claireryan8074 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I use a great app “See Value” that translates my photos into 2 or 3 or 4-part values. It’s very helpful.

  • @tumblingrosesstudio
    @tumblingrosesstudio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are just awesome!! Thank you for this!

  • @sammirenee_3493
    @sammirenee_3493 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really loved this! Thank you for sharing your knowledge 🙏🏼 Can you please do a video in the future of how to mix to get skin paint colors? And what brushes you recommend?I honestly struggle with mixing colors and choosing brushes- and it feels like it’s so easy for some. Please help!

  • @SeekAndYeShallFindGod
    @SeekAndYeShallFindGod ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great turorial. Thanks.

  • @stardustgirl2904
    @stardustgirl2904 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's a lot of effort to get a painting right ❗ Patience is 🗝️ key! I can't paint on a day I can't sit still! Painting 🎨🖌️ dosen't come naturally, I have to work at it, unlike my Father who could paint anything! He passed away and he never got to help me with 🎨 but he was very talented!

  • @joycetrabattoni721
    @joycetrabattoni721 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed your explanation… I will try that!😊

  • @curtisbutler1050
    @curtisbutler1050 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So good. Thank you!

  • @dancer4560
    @dancer4560 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the more I did face-portrait drawings the easier it became but you must put in the time. I remember a whole semester of just face drawing and at the end of the term I could draw by looking at a face on tv- I never ever thought I could do that but I put in the concentration and time- I love your video because it is how I like to work and I am getting back into it but using pastels now. Would love to get out oils again at some point... TY!!

  • @gerriekaychurch658
    @gerriekaychurch658 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is going to really help me!! Thank you

    • @paintcoach
      @paintcoach  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @JROtoons
    @JROtoons ปีที่แล้ว

    Works for me! Thanks!

  • @europeanroyalty4778
    @europeanroyalty4778 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Have you heard of evolve Chris where they use 4 values, 8 & 6 and 2 & 4 on a 10 value scale, an extreme and moderate dark, extreme and moderate light, then turn the form with edges? I find this fascinating and I'm curious about your thoughts working this way.

  • @jananee9311
    @jananee9311 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not getting notifications for some reason but glad to see this video. Was very informative

  • @mickeymiles351
    @mickeymiles351 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic tutorial, thank you.

  • @JackDespero
    @JackDespero 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really enjoyed this video. Than you for sharing!

  • @kevincage1641
    @kevincage1641 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir, you do gorgeous work. When I grow up my living room is going to resemble yours with my many renderings. Oh, and I'm 64.

  • @mochawitch
    @mochawitch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was some awesome information. Thank you sir 🌹🌹

  • @ubernagash
    @ubernagash ปีที่แล้ว

    Awsome vid man, I do love to paint oils mainly (landscapes), and i have found portraits hard to get in to but after see this i think i will give it a go. 😉

  • @myrnalandersartist
    @myrnalandersartist ปีที่แล้ว

    So helpful! Thank you!

  • @pumpkinspice1456
    @pumpkinspice1456 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this insightful video. Much appreciated ❤. Could you please make a video about how to set up for a self portrait? I always struggle with where to place a mirror and how to keep the posture…

  • @letsjustdraw2193
    @letsjustdraw2193 ปีที่แล้ว

    U draw so easily🥺🥺
    So goooodddd🥰🥰🥰

  • @jcarolblair5614
    @jcarolblair5614 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This looks like a great tip for oils! I don’t guess this technique would work with watercolor portraits?

  • @sorrymyolduserwasdumb
    @sorrymyolduserwasdumb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you so much!! this is amazing :))

  • @cmkarma5554
    @cmkarma5554 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you ❤

  • @agold1702
    @agold1702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Learned a few new things. Thanks!

    • @paintcoach
      @paintcoach  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @Silkz0jet
    @Silkz0jet ปีที่แล้ว

    So much sense in all you are saying here, Chris.

  • @kristinkash2210
    @kristinkash2210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Help. I love your videos. You are my new paint coach. Been watching too many coaches. You’re the right one for me, but I need a video on values. I can’t find one you have done just in values. I’m sure you’ve done one, because you talk about values a lot. Do you have one. Thanks kristin kash.

  • @tonym994
    @tonym994 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TR is a great subject! Sargent is one of the best painters I ever saw. and you ain't to shabby.

  • @ButchCurry
    @ButchCurry ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ABC: Always Be Comparing!

  • @tonym994
    @tonym994 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you .I draw, and measuring is the most important part of it. noticed the still from 'GOODFELLAS'. gotta say, you resemble (just watched it) the actor who plays Joe Columbo on 'Godfather of Harlem'. the best part of this lesson was when you said, "in time, you won't need measuring." so I look forward to not using a baggy w/ lines across it, and top to bottom, on my monitor. you do terrific work. will return.

  • @mahanly
    @mahanly ปีที่แล้ว

    Good tips Coach!

  • @ronvavra
    @ronvavra ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started doing pen and ink drawings a few months ago. There is no going back with pen and ink. Since I am doing wild animal works from photos. I trace the proportions. Only outline the key areas then work on the tracing to give it some resemblance to the photo. From there I trace again onto scrap paper which I then finalize as a drawing which I then trace onto my bristol board where I finish the details. By the time I am ready to ink, I have virtually every single ink mark figured out. Less stress.

  • @susanmerila4958
    @susanmerila4958 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A video I've saved to watch again and again in months ahead, whenever I hit a snag....this helps identify WHAT went wrong, WHERE it went wrong, WHY, and HOW to fix. What more could you ask for?

  • @dbell3269
    @dbell3269 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made my own proportional divider. Works just fine.

  • @augustasilvis297
    @augustasilvis297 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u so much helped me alot

  • @ANAHATAJADE
    @ANAHATAJADE ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the information on 1:13

  • @williamnguyen2160
    @williamnguyen2160 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much Chris. I'm beginner, I'd like to understand how to convert the value black and white to colors...🙏👍

  • @billg3356
    @billg3356 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm digging that that Bill Murray over your shoulder, man!

  • @sonijam
    @sonijam ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video!

  • @jimbojet8728
    @jimbojet8728 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes good sense. Thanks

  • @divinesoulsista5425
    @divinesoulsista5425 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The next portrait I do, I’m gonna give it a shot. I’m always open to push myself

  • @evaalt-revie1656
    @evaalt-revie1656 ปีที่แล้ว

    My teacher has taught us the same way, except with the gadget. Thats awesome. Must get a space thingy.

  • @JoeB_BSc
    @JoeB_BSc ปีที่แล้ว

    Re grids, which on transfer are difficult even with the proportional dividers, since to measure a client's or model's face, eg, from life requires holding a measure at exactly the same lengthand angle during placement. Photos are helpful for squaring up but I find printing the same size as the desired image even easier in my opinion.
    However, I opine seeing a Durer drawing where he uses a frame with cords top to base, and side to side, ie as in squaring up and looks at the subject through the squared up frame to put the sections onto his squared up canvas presumably.
    It may be interesting to watch a video on this. Your commentary/demonstrations are very helpful. Thanks and Regards JB

  • @natikier
    @natikier ปีที่แล้ว

    You know how to teach! I subscribed immediately! Its a gift and a reward for the student and teacher. If you know someone who is as gifted a teacher as you and can also show me how to do this digitally, as well as color studies w/o repeating the drawing outline, pls tell me who so I can learn from them as well. Do you hire art teachers...let me know. I would love to work for you!

  • @prichardgs
    @prichardgs ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!

  • @kimvirginia6450
    @kimvirginia6450 ปีที่แล้ว

    TH-cam randomly tossed this video at me. I thought, “I’ll give it one minute” - You immediately drew me in and I enjoyed watching the whole thing. Excellent instruction. Thank you.

  • @dorothygladsjo3510
    @dorothygladsjo3510 ปีที่แล้ว

    “As much of white as possible “ that was an answer I’ve been looking for!

  • @TaterKakez
    @TaterKakez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really fantastic tips, thank you so much!
    If you have / could do a similar video on painting from life using this technique, that would be a huuuge help!! Thanks so much!
    Love you portraiture work, seriously incredible stuff (I paused your videos just to see an up close of the “expressions of Nicholas Cage” painting in the background.
    Do you work exclusively with oils?