Can You Really Drive a 100-Year-Old Ford Model T In the Snow? (Part 3)
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This is hilarious! Really enjoying these T videos.
My dad and I used to watch shows like this content on satellite years ago, feels good to see similar stuff.
Clearly another reason why automobiles are just a passing fad, and will never replace horses!
Get a horse!!!
My horse would not get stuck in the snow.
@@aticus21 But when you are riding past one of these machines stuck in shallow snow it will give you a good chuckle.
Horses are sorta like motorcycles. You can squeeze em through where a ford raptor cant. Except the horse is a living animal that can decide where to put its own feet. People ride them when you think about it its actually crazy. "What do you drive" "a drive a giant beast" you can see then government even learned to respect the horses. Theyre road legal you dont have to hand a license plate off the back of them and fund the dmv if you dont want to isnt it beautiful. I neigh in symbolic respect
Horses were what was used to pull model T's out of the ditch and snowbanks back in the day.
A little history lesson, One of the first "snowmobiles" created was a modified model T with tracks and skies
They also had tracks
Indeed it was, like a half-track kind of thing.
Yes it was a conversion for rural mail delivery among others , there are videos on TH-cam of them being run at different snowmobile events over the years
Yep was going to mention this…. There is a big Model T Snowmobile club in Vermont that has a rally each year. It’s worth finding a kit if you can fit the sheer fun of it. The kit as stated was popular for rural mail carriers (think of Fred Astaire in the beginning of Santa Claus is coming to town). However they were also popular with rural doctors who needed the ability to make house calls in the worst of conditions.
😂hardly. First "snowmobile" was a dog sled & they're still running. Fr & for actual races, considering the Iditarod just happened yeah. 1200 miles Anchorage(Wasilla)to Nome. A few hundred miles South of where I was born above the Arctic in Kotzebue 😂.
Man, that cold start was better than a lot of modern vehicles
In garage its not cold start😂
@@StopTeoriomSpiskowym don't look like a very warm shed to me
Garages built in the 1920s often had a crawlspace that you could get under the car and drain the oil. It would be taken inside to keep warm.
My family built a 2 bay garage in the 1910's when they got their 1914 T. One bay had a removable floor section to service the car. The other bay has a 2ftx3ft metal pan to catch the engine block water when you parked in the winter. The pan drained to the ground.
They used that 1914 T to drive a pulley driven firewood sawmill and would stick a meat grinder handle into the spokes and idle as slow as possible to grind meat. Sadly the T was sold in 1915. We still have the garage.
So they only kept it a year or do you have a typo?
I'm pretty sure by 1915, there were some alternatives to the model T, but definitely not many that were adorable or mass-produced. Or it broke down and they sold it for scrap because they couldn't get the replacement parts.@@Wingnut353
I heard that they used to drain the oil and take it inside when it was incredibly cold out.
"Plus my pants are falling off."
"Well, that's not the car's fault."
But they'll make it seem like it is, won't they.
I spit out my beer on that one😂😂
Sandbags and chains might help, but In 1915 you could probably just take the horse instead.
If you even had a horse to ride after buying a Model T. Those were not cheap
That's what the Model T snowmobile kit is for. Here in New England, we know better than to drive our model Ts in the snow without tracks on the back and skis in the front. Ford sold a snowmobile kit for winter driving from the factory. There were no winter tires in 1915, only snowmobile conversion kits. Many consider the Ford winter driving conversion kit to be the world's first snowmobile.
You’re right about back in the day they didn’t use antifreeze. Back in the day what they did use was a mixture of alcohol and water, depending on where they live and degree of temperature.
makes sense
That might not be glycol, but it is antifreeze
I have heard that back when the car was new, drivers would wrap rope around the wheel, threading it through the spokes, as DYI version of chains.
I also recall something where they would take a block of wood and a belt and strap it to the wheel. This added a hefty lug for getting out of places thick of mud.
True, then get it wet and allow the rope to freeze solid.
My Dad's uncle talked about wrapping light chains around the tires like that, for traction.
I would carry a long length of 1/2 inch rope in a saddle bag of my M/C for the same purpose. When caught in surprise snow storms while living in the mountains I would wrap the rope around the back rim and tire multiple times, forming a type of chain to improve traction. Combined with dropping pressure in the front tire, was enough to get me home on more then one occasion. Talking inches, not feet of snow here, deepest I did this in was maybe 6 inches. Not able to run at highway speeds under such conditions, but always better to keep moving at a slower speed than leave my custom chopper behind.
As a fellow old dude I really felt for Roman. Got his weeks worth of exercise in 15 minutes.
Be well dude
In the old days you didn't exercise for fun. It was just a part of everyday life.
@@aerynlovell4754 haha it’s true eh?
@frh-freerangehuman I grew up on a farm and had to feed the animals before I ate breakfast. Then, when I got home from school, I changed out of my good clothes to feed the animals or shovel s*** before supper. Now people spend so much time sitting in front of a computer or playing video games that they think walking is exercise. I used to think the Jetsons was ridiculous because on the show, George's job of pushing a button all day was considered exhausting.
@@aerynlovell4754I hear that! I lived in a small town in farming country here in Ontario. I didn’t live on a farm but worked for two. One I did haying and he also had an asphalt coating business and the other they had pigs and dairy cattle. I don’t think my kids believe I milked cows lol
Great memories, kept me fit going into adulthood and creates a good work ethic.
They really were good old days haha
@@frh-freerangehuman Now everything revolves around the smart watch. Got to get my steps in!
The old timers used to wind rope around the tire between the spokes. That was their “chains.”
ol' reliable 😎🪢
That's what I do. Half hitches between each spoke.
“My pants are falling off”
“Well, that’s not the car’s fault”
I love their father/son relationship 😂
If you read some of the old accounts of driving across the country which happened 5-7 years before this, they used rope as there were no chains. You could get a few feet anywere in those days and most farmers and ranchers had it. If I rember correctly Edsel Ford drove a brand new 1915 across the country to show it's reliability. My father drove a Model T as a kid as his dad never had a driver's license. A driver's license was fairly easy, plop a quarter on the counter even if you had to stand on your tip toes. During winter and spring they not only had ropes for chains but carried a block and tackle to winch if needed.
ye that makes sense. I'd imagine even a horse carriage should have something like this.
EDIT: o w8, horse carriages prbly didn't need this at all since horses did the pulling.
Sometime in 1915. "Grandma, get out and push"😂
The fact that the ground was not frozen was not helping you. You were basically trying to drive it in mud. Fun video. I loved it.
Watching the wheels dig in and the tires spin at high speeds was exactly what I expected. Just more mud than I thought and the rear tires basically becoming mudslicks.
My grandpa had told me that back when he was driving one (bought a brand new ‘23 at 18yo) he would drain the oil and I assume radiator and bring both of those fluids in the house at night and store them by the wood stove so he could start the car easier in the morning.
Probably brought the batteries in to...
Lived in Alaska for seven years. Those folks who lived out in the "Bush" away from city power and only firewood for heat would pull batteries, oil, and antifreeze to keep warm in the cabin until they needed the car or truck. An alternative was to use a single burner hibachi grill. They would fire it up and after the flame died down would put it under the oil pan to warm the oil while covering the front of the car with a heavy blanket. All city homes had hitching posts with electrical outlets to plug in block heaters, battery heaters, and interior heaters. Was quit the experience...
LMAO! He scared the mess out of him with the horn.
Not gonna lie, startled me a little too...
Back in the day, you'd wrap clothesline around the tires through the convenient openings in the wood wheels, or you'd buy some of those new fangled things called snow chains.
Two minutes of Googleing and I found an add for Weed Tire Chains from the teens or twenties. Locking differentials have also been available for the T for 100 years or more.
1916 was probably more exciting for the drive because a massive storm moved from the Pacific Ocean, flooding and breaking dams across the West, including Chula Vista, CA, Yuma, AZ, and Reno, NV, then it turned to blizzards and buried KS so the doctor almost didn't arrive in time to help my grandmother deliver my mother at their farm, in late January. My mother never drove a Model T but did knock down the farmhouse fence trying to stop the Model A in her teens. She just about couldn't reach the pedals.
Fun to watch. I enjoy the wonderful, father/son, interaction. Where else will you see 100+ year old vehicle operated in the snow. I find it hard to believe that only 10% of viewers are giving this a thumbs up.
This is like driving a Model T during the Great Depression when no one could afford new tires or during WWII when all the rubber went to the war effort.
The Ford model T is such a lovely vehicle! Love seeing it!
Advice for winter driving given in the 1919 edition of “Questions and Answers on Automobile Design, Construction and Repair “ : use tire chains; or if stuck, wrap a rope around each rear tire between the spokes.
My dad passed away in 2014. I love watching a grown Tommy and Roman interact. Though I guarantee you it would be pushing my dad
I think the 1915 series is your absolutely best series
Pull the brake lever half way back, it holds the left pedal in the center and you can just step on the reverse pedal. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS 🇺🇸
Yeah surprised he hadn't figured that one out yet
Back where I live in Quebec, there was only the Model T in the early 1900s. What we used in the 30s for true snow driving was the Bombardier B7 (heavily modified Model T) and after the 40s roads were mostly paved and cleared often enough with road salt and machinery for normal cars to able to freely move in winter.
“Did they have chains back in the day?” I think they were calls a horse. 😂
A HORSE was the tow truck
Fun video. My great grandpa use to tell me they used a horse to pull stuck "T's" out, or pull them along.
Wind rope around your rear wheels, leaving good sized gaps between every few passes (at the spokes, gaps are automatically created, in any style of wrapping.) Use heavy-duty rope, and do not drive on hard surfaces, while wrapped. Loose snow, only. Wind the rope, and tie it, with the intention of being able to unwind, and save the rope.
What people used to do in cold weather was drain the water when they parked up then fill the radiator from the kettle before they went out, this also pre-heats the engine making it easier to start in the cold. They have a tap for you to drain the water. I know some farmers who keep vintage tractors to use as yard scrapers and they still do this in the winter.
There was a winter package that was sold for the Model T to convert it to a half track with tracks in the back and skis in the front. If you've ever seen the Christmas special "Santa Clause is Coming to Town" the postman drives one.
lol I like how his Dad suggested to air down the tires before he drove and he didn't listen lol.
On tubed tires it's tougher if the tire starts spinning on the rim it rips or tears the valve stem off.
I drive my Model T in the snow whenever it snows. If you wrap half hitches of rope around the tire and between each spoke the car will be nearly unstoppable in snow or mud. I usually use 1/4" clothesline rope Use a half hitch between each spoke so you'll have 12 loops of rope locked square across the tire tread... Tie a bowline knot to make a loop in each end after wrapping it with 12 half hitches all the way around the tire. I put one loop through the other and use a rubber tiedown hook thing to pull the other loop across the wheel and hook to the rope on the other side to tension it like on truck tire chains. If you use the proper knots it won't come apart unless the rope wears out. There were also various types of tire chains that fit the period tires which are still out there.
Hey OP/ tying and naming knots is way beyond the 'skill sets' of the rising generation
@@harriettanthony7352 If you can read you can learn to tie knots. I just recently saw a guy, probably in his 20s walking on a sidewalk...and Knitting as he walked.
you boys need a model t snowmobile kit. They were an option by another company back in the day.
You needed weight on that rear axle and some tire chains would've been good too yes, but just some weight on that rear axle should make a difference. Instead of having your Dad push he probably should've just hopped in.
Really impressed with the fact you're 25 and doing this. You and your brother remind me of Orville and Wilbur Wright. History will continue through young men like you.
2:27 Every time we have a heavy snow fall it’s always the worst snow storm. Every time we have a cold snap, it’s always the coldest temperatures recorded. Every summer is always the hottest summer on record.
Famous last words, "no dad, it won't get stuck". 😅
To get up steep hills and in the snow, early cars were driven in reverse. This would allow fuel to gravity feed better and effectively make the car front wheel drive in terms of direction of travel. If the tank was kept full, the weight of the fuel adds a lot more pressure into the fuel line. Also, anti-freeze as an automotive product was offered in 1917. Prior to this, some people added isopropyl alcohol to radiators in cold climates.
Just be glad there's no salt out there.
You should buy the Model T snow option it comes with tracks and skis in the front
While I can’t say my Model A is the absolute best car I’ve driven in the snow, it does quite well. I’ve never been stuck, even in the really deep stuff. I’ve always been able rock out of some pretty deep snow in it.
Thank you Roman and Tommy.
In the old days you would just drain the water out of the engine before parking it overnight. Fill it up in the morning. You would put a cover over the radiator to keep it from freezing while driving.
Alcohol could be added to the water to act as antifreeze, but it had to be replenished frequently, since it would boil out of the water as you drove.
I expected it would have done better than that, but I'm sure there were other tire options and other traction aids available at the time.
I love these Model T videos. Please keep them coming.😀
Love these Model T vids thank you
This series is awesome
What a great video! Well done.
Great Father/Son collaboration video !!! Great job guys
Hey guys cool old Ford. They actually sold tracks and skis for old vehicles. Pretty cool in flat lands.
I love these Model T videos!!!
I asked my grandfather what they did to keep the water from freezing in those Model T’s. He said they would put a tray of hot coal and place it under the engine.
Seeing the little ATV zipping around the yard reminded me of my brother's old dodge. He would tie one of those cheap plastic kiddie pools to the back and all of his school chums and I would pile into it, and we'd go ripping along in the stubble of the back 40 until it flipped, and we all went flying, dirt clods, wet straw, snow and toques all over! Mom would have skinned him if he did doughnuts like that on the lawn though. :P
I'm sure you guys already know, and others have probably mentioned it in comments on the other videos (I haven't had a chance to watch them yet), but electric starters became widespread as safety feature instead of a convenience feature. If the engine backfired/detonated (I'm not sure exactly) while hand cranking it then the engine could suddenly reverse rotation. This resulted in many injuries (broken arms) and even deaths. The solution apparently is to start the engine using just your left arm because when if the engine reverses rotation then it simply bends your elbow.
This may also be an old wives tale and I don't know what I'm talking about. Just wanted to bring it up. No one wants a fun video to become tragic.
62 years ago I was hand cranking a 1948 Morris 8 when it back fired and nearly broke my wrist. An early lesson, ALWAYS crank with your thumb kept alongside your fingers and not round the crank. Do not use both hands!
With two broken wrists how are you going to eat and excrete?
The reason why tire chains were invented in the era of non paved roads. With chains you can get through anything but where we live in Rochester NY they are not allowed on paved roads.
there was a track add on that turned it into a halftrack. not sure how common it was.
when the roads are cleared you should drive into town
This was fantastic. You guys are great. 😊
To think my grandfather was 17 years old when the Model T was new. Also, I have his 1916 LC Smith Corona typewriter. Love the Model T videos!
i think that with those drag racing slick tyres thats pretty good.
if you had proper winter tyres it would go waay better.
In fairness; when the Model T was first built there were no tarmac roads. Only dirt tracks.
Yes, there were and still are, tire chains for Model Ts. Also available back in the day were abundant supplies of traction enhancing material know as ash from the wood burning stoves. We always had several 5 gal buckets handy to throw down for traction.
awesome as always
Thank you! Cheers!
1915 "antifreeze" would be any type of alcohol..
most ads from the era there was a "driving season" which would not include winter...
"tow truck" would be borrowing a close by farmers horse..
Love these videos. I have seen model t's with skis and tracks on the back. They can really zip in the snow. After winter was over they would convert the back over to four wheelers.
That was fun! It may have been a fail from a getting somewhere point of view, but it was a win from an entertainment perspective! Thanks again!
This is what shovels are for. Being from Alaska, I keep a shovel in every vehicle I own.
My dad raised on Kansas farm. They used to drain radiator in winter to drive the mile to church. Other times they built small fire under engine pan to preheat engine.
Passenger would blow in gas tank to pressurize it going up hill. Apparently some people rigged bicycle pumps to pressurize.
Would wrapping rope around rear tire improve traction?
In the OLD DAYS when this car was new, the front wheels were replaced with SKIS and the rear wheels were replaced with TREADS similar to tank treads.
Before antifreeze, motorists would drain the water before storage and refill before driving again. The height of the car and the non-pressurized cooling system allowed this to be done with a simple bucket or watering can.
They made front skis and rear tracks for Model T's i saw one in person years ago it was pretty amazing, im loving this series!
This is some quality content! Can't wait to see Dreamboat take the snow!
My great uncle took a model T from north Idaho to Kentucky. He talked about finding a thick rope and wrapping it around the spokes to increase traction through mud snow and sand.
If you are going to keep the T, you should convert it to an electric self starter. My neighbour has a 1915 T with the conversion. Saves getting a broken wrist when it kicks back on the crank.
overall great fun video, i really do hope you all keep this car for the long haul... so many comparisons you can do . need to do how that car started and cars added more and more like from crank start to carb to efi to electric and such ... even conveniences like roll up windows and more
That was another fine mess you got into!😄. Loved it. It’s like what would Shawn Spencer have driven in 1915. I could tell you and your father really enjoyed it. Great vid.
Now I want to see you do some road trip in it :D But I do love this series!
In the depot hack version they made a half track kit and it used skis on the front .
Yes to chains and new no skid treads on the back or something more open than the summer rears you had.
Roman, you need to get in shape !
gotta get a livingwood 4wd kit for her
In winter you'd drain the water after driving and heat it on the stove before pouring it back in at the start of the day.
All it needs is the invention of the LSD and snow tires! And roofs! And heaters!
(IOW: We've no idea how good we have it.)
I think our forefathers planned on having enough provisions stocked up that they didn't have to take their Model T's out in the snow.
100 years ago that Honda tractor thing would have been the best car in the world.
Still more weather protection than the amish buggies i see every day.
I would bet good money that back in the day drivers would do the same thing I have done more then once to get my M/C home when caught in a snow storm. And that is wrap a good length of rope multiple times around the back rim and tire, forming a type of tire chain to improve traction. The spokes keep the rope from slipping, actually works really well. A 1/2 inch rope was thick enough to get my custom chopper home through 6 inches of snow. Didn't set any speed records doing this but kept me moving. A far better option then leaving my bike behind. I'm sure your Model T could handle a thicker diameter rope for even better traction, handle even deeper snow. Testing this could make for an interesting follow-up Model T video
Glad to see you wearing the helmet in the Pioneer, stay safe out there!
Little light in the rear end. Tire technology has come a long way too. I remember my grandpa saying that the T’s had more torque in reverse than 1st gear. He said you’d see folks going up hills in reverse. Good stuff. Nice video. 😊
Mostly because the fuel was gravity fed only slightly higher then the carb, but if there was someone sitting in back they coulda gone a couple more feet
Chains were the order of the day when you had to get to town.
The best part about these videos is your Scooby Doo voice.
Yes, they had tire chains for Model T’s.
this was fun to watch, it honestly makes me wonder if there is a kit? of sorts to build and drive a replica of this vehicle.
there is a 4 wheel drive model T in the Model T museum in Detroit, they also had Model T ford snow cats back then
Another reason why still life photos back in 1915 show people with an expression of bewilderment: they saw into the future and watched this episode and wondered where common sense went! In 1915, clearly the options were to stay in shelter or if one had to get out, the horse would get you to where you needed to be. That being said, always enjoyable, though I was concerned we in You Tube land were to experience watching Roman having a heart attack on camera 😮😅
one other thing ppl did with radiators back in the day that didnt have thermostats in the engine, they blocked it off partially or if really cold completely so as little cooling air got through when cold..
this could be very easily done today using cardboard in front of the radiator.. just watch the thermometer on the fillcap so it doesnt boil over..
They had tracks and skies for the Model T. I'm sure you'd had no trouble if you had them. I enjoyed the video.
While the T was from beyond the horseless carriage era, it would not have been run in the snowy countryside where you are when there were still horses in the barn to use instead.
Most people drained their radiators into a bucket and set it behind the woodstove overnight. Pour it back in the radiator in the morning and it warms the block for easier starting. Tire chains were also a thing.