+Gary Beltz You're right, it does have the typical smoke detector beeping pattern pre-temporal. A little odd for a fire alarm meant for a commercial setup, but I guess the sound pattern is close to what people had at the time in their smoke detectors. I find it interesting that they actually carried it over to the SpectrAlert line as the alternative tone. Additionally, it does this same beeping pattern in temporal as well, not just a straight beep.
At your preschool, you probably had either this or the PA400 series if it sounded just like this. It's the only one I know of from the era that had a beeping pattern just like this. A lot of piezoelectric devices from the era usually produced just a flat out beep, no pattern like this. That's interesting you mention this though, I don't know of too many installations where these or the horn only version are installed.
NewEnglandElevators I don’t think my old preschool fire alarm was like that, I think it was a SpectrAlert Classic type. What it does is that it buzzes softly on continuous like what you hear on fluorescent lights, then it beeps just like this device in the video for one second, then it stops and repeats again. I don’t know if it’s really a SpectrAlert Classic or if it’s this one, it has been like around 16-18 years ago.
That actually sounds a lot like the original SpectrAlert then...the original SpectrAlert's have that same exact horn sounding pattern when starting up (one blast of continuous, followed by three blasts and then repeasts). The original is also capable of doing 3000hz like here. I have a video of the mentioned scattered somewhere on my channel if you're curious. (I'm actually kinda curious, are you starting to get into fire alarms? Pretty cool that you are if that's the case).
NewEnglandElevators Starting a bit. I have actually filmed my very first fire alarm video of a Wheelock CH... something at Hollywood & Highland. It was unexpected while I was mainly filming the Fujitec elevators.
JimLiElevators Ah yes! I remember seeing that video. You're close with the model number though, it's the Wheelock E70. It is very decieving though, the CH70 and the E70 look exactly alike (the CH70 is a chime strobe, which acts like another horn/strobe, while the E70 is a speaker/strobe, basically like a emergency PA system).
I'm guessing the timeline of system sensor from the 1990's, to the present is (now correct me if I get anything wrong here.) 1990's: the masses 2000's: spectralert classics 2010's spectralert advances Now/the 2020's: system sensor L series alarms.
I'll be honest, I'm not 100% sure on the exact definition or use, but based on some quick research and what I've found out in the field, typically these mini-horns are meant for areas where smaller fire alarm devices are needed (aesthetics, most likely), typically for smaller rooms (hotel rooms, classrooms, apartments, etc). In some cases, some devices may have a strobe on them as well. Again, audible/visual notification for a smaller room. Not sure if these devices can technically be installed in larger areas (hallways, large rooms, etc), but there's a few cases out there where they have been. Not saying that a regular horn or speaker strobe can't be installed in a smaller space either, this has certainly been done a lot. Quote from System Sensor that I found regarding their newer MHR/MHW devices: "The MHR and MHW mini-horns operate at 12 and 24 volts and are ideal for hotel, motel or residential fire system applications, where a smaller notification device is desired. The mini-horns offer high and low volume settings, and temporal or non-temporal tones. The horns can be mounted to single gang back boxes for aesthetically sensitive applications."
@@NewEnglandElevators Another difference between a mini horn and strobe is the sound that the devices make A mini horn produces a pure tone of frequency in a sine or triangle wave and a horn strobe produces a sine wave or triangle wave but with some frequency modulation. Most horn strobes produce frequency modulation but not alot of horn strobes produce amplitude modulation. Horn strobes that produce amplitude modulation are the Gentex SHG/Commander Series, System Sensor SpectrAlert Classic, and EST Genesis.
A local Kroger had a lot of thees but when they modernized the Kroger they replaced thees. I think they put up system sensor spectralerts and left the strobes in the restrooms.
I used to see these pop up on Ebay sometimes but I was not really into this fire alarm at the time but now I regret it I don't even see one of these pop-up anymore
Agreed! I guess it fit for alarms more likely meant for private mode (small rooms, dwellings, hotel rooms, classrooms, etc). I still remember the smoke detectors prior to Code 3 becoming the standard.
+alarmtech28 I think they still pop up every so often, not as often as devices from the MASS and SpectrAlert families. Right now, there's a PS121575 on eBay for a somewhat reasonable price. The only drawback is that it is a 12v model. I would say keep your eyes open for one of these, and get one if you see one for a decent price. That's how I nabbed this one.
NewEnglandElevators; Question ? The Wheelock E-50 that you using before how does it work with a speaker like do you use 9 volt battery's or if you do using 9 volt battery's how do you make the e-50 speaker noise because mine that I got on eBay it didn't do anything with the 9 volt battery's only I heard is the e-50 speaker popping sound on the 9 volt battery's so can you explained how it works? Really please? Because mine doesn't do anything just I heard of mine is the popping sound yours is working okay but not mine. so please explain 😊😊😊😊
+Adam Carter You don't power the speaker using 9vdc that will probably damage the speaker. You will need an audio source to feed the speaker audio. An amplifier that outputs 25v or 70v will suffice (don't use a stereo system, they're not designed for alarm speakers). I have a Pyle PCM20A, that outputs both, and 8ohms.
+Jonathan Ryerson Hotel They are hard to find. I don't think they're the hardest device to find; there's still quite a bit of them out there if you look hard enough.
+Massachusettes Elevators and MBTA/Amtrak Railfanner Last time I counted, it was 105 devices. My collection grew a bit since then. Now I would say it is at around 110 devices.
+Dante Stoner That's because the horn used in this is the same one as the PA400R, just in a larger body. What they did was soldered those two wire leads to the board itself, to make it go to the strobe.
+Garrett Simmers What do you mean a device? This is technically a device, one for notification when the system is activated. It's a very valuable part of a system, if you ask me.
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Sounds so similar to that of a smoke detector but does a fast pulse signal. Also I like how the horn did that epic wind down as it shut off.
It looks like a giant inhaler
LMAO
a m o g u s
FR LOL 😂😂
I saw theese at my old library
Reminds me of an older smoke detector before the temporal 3 rule went into effect.
+Gary Beltz You're right, it does have the typical smoke detector beeping pattern pre-temporal. A little odd for a fire alarm meant for a commercial setup, but I guess the sound pattern is close to what people had at the time in their smoke detectors. I find it interesting that they actually carried it over to the SpectrAlert line as the alternative tone. Additionally, it does this same beeping pattern in temporal as well, not just a straight beep.
That beeper sounded like the one in my old preschool, it is VERY loud!
At your preschool, you probably had either this or the PA400 series if it sounded just like this. It's the only one I know of from the era that had a beeping pattern just like this. A lot of piezoelectric devices from the era usually produced just a flat out beep, no pattern like this.
That's interesting you mention this though, I don't know of too many installations where these or the horn only version are installed.
NewEnglandElevators I don’t think my old preschool fire alarm was like that, I think it was a SpectrAlert Classic type. What it does is that it buzzes softly on continuous like what you hear on fluorescent lights, then it beeps just like this device in the video for one second, then it stops and repeats again. I don’t know if it’s really a SpectrAlert Classic or if it’s this one, it has been like around 16-18 years ago.
That actually sounds a lot like the original SpectrAlert then...the original SpectrAlert's have that same exact horn sounding pattern when starting up (one blast of continuous, followed by three blasts and then repeasts). The original is also capable of doing 3000hz like here. I have a video of the mentioned scattered somewhere on my channel if you're curious.
(I'm actually kinda curious, are you starting to get into fire alarms? Pretty cool that you are if that's the case).
NewEnglandElevators Starting a bit. I have actually filmed my very first fire alarm video of a Wheelock CH... something at Hollywood & Highland. It was unexpected while I was mainly filming the Fujitec elevators.
JimLiElevators Ah yes! I remember seeing that video. You're close with the model number though, it's the Wheelock E70. It is very decieving though, the CH70 and the E70 look exactly alike (the CH70 is a chime strobe, which acts like another horn/strobe, while the E70 is a speaker/strobe, basically like a emergency PA system).
this is no fire alarm, this is…
*amogus*
Neat!
+S.E.R. Safety (Grant Bansemer) Thank you, and glad to see you enjoyed this! I think these are pretty cool alarms, especially the shape of the device.
Thanks!! I especially like how it sounds when it powers down. I think it sounded pretty cool when you powered it down that first time. :D
I just bought one!
I'm guessing the timeline of system sensor from the 1990's, to the present is (now correct me if I get anything wrong here.)
1990's: the masses
2000's: spectralert classics
2010's spectralert advances
Now/the 2020's: system sensor L series alarms.
This is basically a replacement for the PA400R+PS24LO
Science Guy yeah, no kidding! Addressed in the description
Those are quite hard to find
omg this is from the 90s omg it looks like its from 2013
Nice!!!
I forgot this existed. Freaky device.
Found in many TR Regional Motels and College Dormitories.
7:00 What’s the difference between a mini horn-strobe and a regular horn-strobe fire alarm?
I'll be honest, I'm not 100% sure on the exact definition or use, but based on some quick research and what I've found out in the field, typically these mini-horns are meant for areas where smaller fire alarm devices are needed (aesthetics, most likely), typically for smaller rooms (hotel rooms, classrooms, apartments, etc). In some cases, some devices may have a strobe on them as well. Again, audible/visual notification for a smaller room.
Not sure if these devices can technically be installed in larger areas (hallways, large rooms, etc), but there's a few cases out there where they have been. Not saying that a regular horn or speaker strobe can't be installed in a smaller space either, this has certainly been done a lot.
Quote from System Sensor that I found regarding their newer MHR/MHW devices: "The MHR and MHW mini-horns operate at 12 and 24 volts and are ideal for hotel, motel or residential fire system applications, where a smaller notification device is desired. The mini-horns offer high and low volume settings, and temporal or non-temporal tones. The horns can be mounted to single gang back boxes for aesthetically sensitive applications."
@@NewEnglandElevators Another difference between a mini horn and strobe is the sound that the devices make
A mini horn produces a pure tone of frequency in a sine or triangle wave and a horn strobe produces a sine wave or triangle wave but with some frequency modulation. Most horn strobes produce frequency modulation but not alot of horn strobes produce amplitude modulation. Horn strobes that produce amplitude modulation are the Gentex SHG/Commander Series, System Sensor SpectrAlert Classic, and EST Genesis.
A local Kroger had a lot of thees but when they modernized the Kroger they replaced thees. I think they put up system sensor spectralerts and left the strobes in the restrooms.
I definitely found one of those on eBay I only saw one the quote unquote European style horn strobe someone might buy it before me.
+Jonathan Ryerson Hotel Go for it!
Eeeee eo eo!
Looks like a PA400 and a MASS ADA had a Baby.
I used to see these pop up on Ebay sometimes but I was not really into this fire alarm at the time but now I regret it I don't even see one of these pop-up anymore
Glad I snagged mine while I did I guess. You do have a point, I do remember seeing these pop up from time to time as well.
Anyone else think it sounds like a smoke detector? Before they standardized Code 3 for smoke alarms?
Agreed! I guess it fit for alarms more likely meant for private mode (small rooms, dwellings, hotel rooms, classrooms, etc). I still remember the smoke detectors prior to Code 3 becoming the standard.
I almost bought one of those back in 2009, and now I regret that I didn't. I don't see them pop up much anymore sadly.
+alarmtech28 I think they still pop up every so often, not as often as devices from the MASS and SpectrAlert families. Right now, there's a PS121575 on eBay for a somewhat reasonable price. The only drawback is that it is a 12v model. I would say keep your eyes open for one of these, and get one if you see one for a decent price. That's how I nabbed this one.
NewEnglandElevators; Question ? The Wheelock E-50 that you using before how does it work with a speaker like do you use 9 volt battery's or if you do using 9 volt battery's how do you make the e-50 speaker noise because mine that I got on eBay it didn't do anything with the 9 volt battery's only I heard is the e-50 speaker popping sound on the 9 volt battery's so can you explained how it works? Really please? Because mine doesn't do anything just I heard of mine is the popping sound yours is working okay but not mine. so please explain 😊😊😊😊
+Adam Carter You don't power the speaker using 9vdc that will probably damage the speaker. You will need an audio source to feed the speaker audio. An amplifier that outputs 25v or 70v will suffice (don't use a stereo system, they're not designed for alarm speakers). I have a Pyle PCM20A, that outputs both, and 8ohms.
Yeah you need an external speaker module
What a strange looking device.
those alarms are very hard to fine.
+Jonathan Ryerson Hotel They are hard to find. I don't think they're the hardest device to find; there's still quite a bit of them out there if you look hard enough.
How many of those FA's do you even have total??
+Massachusettes Elevators and MBTA/Amtrak Railfanner Last time I counted, it was 105 devices. My collection grew a bit since then. Now I would say it is at around 110 devices.
Sounds like a smoke alarm.
How
@@fire_alarm_lover3170 I don't know.
What a very, weird alarm.
this is from the 90,s it looks like it's from 2015
sounds like the PA400R
+Dante Stoner That's because the horn used in this is the same one as the PA400R, just in a larger body. What they did was soldered those two wire leads to the board itself, to make it go to the strobe.
because it is the ADA model
i do have 2 accounts my other one is how i told you that i like the FWR remember
4:47
It makes a weird sound at 4:47
Lol
It died
I tried.
Boi it looks like a puking man XD
The Strobe looks like a strobe from a TrueAlert
It looks like a giant
inhaler to me too but sounds like an annoying smoke detecter and probably a device I won't be testing
Long fire akarm
That alarm is ugly
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+Lord dragon 904 Awesome!
FILM A DEVICE INSTEAD ON THIS, FLAG AND CRY!
+Garrett Simmers What do you mean a device? This is technically a device, one for notification when the system is activated. It's a very valuable part of a system, if you ask me.
+Garrett Simmers Why be rude to him! He feels like doing it!
NewEnglandElevators That was probably a spam comment (not talking about your reply).
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