Tasteful, respectful, and all these brave buds coming together to tell this story is just so helpful and useful. Especially for those who are just entering into the amazing world of Scuba diving.
By sharing this tragedy, you may have already saved lives. Thank you for carefully presenting and explaining all of the complex factors that were involved. You provided excellent insight and education. I am so terribly sorry for your loss.
Thank you for posting this video. My heart goes out to the family of this young man. I am an airline pilot for a major US airline. I recently earned my open-water certification from an accredited dive school. I am surprised at the similarities diving has with flying. Compared to the training I receive at my airline, however, dive training has a "relaxed" mindset with very little discussion on risk assessment. Although I did receive very good training with a very competent dive instructor at the dive shop I attended the approach is much different from the risk-focused training and daily operational procedures I follow at work. Like flying, we are inches from a very bad outcome. I hope that in the future dive schools/training embrace standardized training with a focus on risk and human factors as well as a just culture mindset so these types of tragedies do not occur again.
Has anyone seen 'Dave not coming back'? A very interesting documentary about a Cathay Pacific Captain who lost his life diving out in South Africa. Another example of the swiss cheese effect.
I honestly thought that it was common knowledge how dangerous rebreathers can be even in the best of times. The new instructor thought that they were all prior instructors on other levels of diving. My heart goes out to his family.
What makes sense and is my opinion as to what happened. Its more likely he was pre breathing the rebreather the with electronics were turned off. The PPO2 was probably .21 (air) because he'd had it apart prior. He then breathed it down to a lower level and without realising, jumped in the water, passed out and sank. If the rebreather was switched on during the pre breathe it would have warned him of the low PPO2. If he didn't do the pre breath and just jumped in the water, the rebreather would have sensed it was in water, turned on and warned him of the low PPO2. If you are sat in your home breathing on a rebreather without turning it on you will die.
When situations seem unacceptable, can you contact the agency (SSI/padi etc.) to report the shop and will they audit the shop? Or do you just have to eat the monetary loss and refuse to dive. This is better than being dead or injured but it seems unfair that agencies allow this. The whole point of an agency for me is that I can count on standards.
I lived and worked on Grand Cayman for several years and got to experience some of the best diving in the world from my own backyard. (Highly recommended for experienced divers.)
Sometimes you can't put a timeframe on experience. I look more into hours than timeframe. Like a diver who had 100 hours in 3 months vs a diver who had a 100 hours in 1 year. If I said that guy had 1 year experience vs 3 months experience most would assume the 1 year had more experience than the 3 months based on time alone. It's just a broad example but basically every scenario is different. Over confidence kills however and human error will come into play in every hobby and profession no matter what, accidents will always happen.
It's not at all right, nor fair, to blame his wife! She simply said she was behind him and knew he really wanted to finish (which was (1) one last dive! This is instructor error , Brian's error for wearing a dry suit in very hot weather and rushing through the checklist because he was hot and frustrated! Blaming his wife is actually very unfair and a very erroneous statement, for which you should be ashamed of!!
Don’t skydive or scubadive if you are married and have kids, it’s irresponsible and inconsiderate…their well-being should always be your primary concern. Do these things BEFORE you start a family. That is all.
It absolutely is that cut & dry. Responsibility comes first & the ultimate responsibility is being a parent…. No one can completely remove risk but high risk activities absolutely can be eliminated. Choosing otherwise is a risk no parent should take.
His grasp exceed his reach...the main lesson to take from these diving accident videos is to stick with recreational open-circuit scuba diving (unless diving for specialized work or military purposes).
Thanks for producing this! I just utilized it in a divemaster course and prompted a great discussion.
My heart breaks for his wife, you see can the pain she’s holding onto. Rest in paradise Brian 🙏🏼
Tasteful, respectful, and all these brave buds coming together to tell this story is just so helpful and useful.
Especially for those who are just entering into the amazing world of Scuba diving.
I think Dive Talk did a video on him.❤😊
By sharing this tragedy, you may have already saved lives. Thank you for carefully presenting and explaining all of the complex factors that were involved. You provided excellent insight and education. I am so terribly sorry for your loss.
Agreed nyla.
THIS DOCUMENTARY JUST FELL INTO MY LOOP ON YOU TUBE BUT IAM GLAD I WATCHED IT SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS (NORTHERN IRELAND)
Same here. UK 😊
It's important to talk about tragedies like this so we can all learn. Thanks
Thank you for posting this video. My heart goes out to the family of this young man. I am an airline pilot for a major US airline. I recently earned my open-water certification from an accredited dive school. I am surprised at the similarities diving has with flying. Compared to the training I receive at my airline, however, dive training has a "relaxed" mindset with very little discussion on risk assessment. Although I did receive very good training with a very competent dive instructor at the dive shop I attended the approach is much different from the risk-focused training and daily operational procedures I follow at work. Like flying, we are inches from a very bad outcome. I hope that in the future dive schools/training embrace standardized training with a focus on risk and human factors as well as a just culture mindset so these types of tragedies do not occur again.
Has anyone seen 'Dave not coming back'? A very interesting documentary about a Cathay Pacific Captain who lost his life diving out in South Africa. Another example of the swiss cheese effect.
Just bought your book Gareth!
Very good book
I could listen to Gareth speak for hours. what a great mind.
My condolences to his family and friends.
I honestly thought that it was common knowledge how dangerous rebreathers can be even in the best of times. The new instructor thought that they were all prior instructors on other levels of diving. My heart goes out to his family.
What makes sense and is my opinion as to what happened.
Its more likely he was pre breathing the rebreather the with electronics were turned off. The PPO2 was probably .21 (air) because he'd had it apart prior. He then breathed it down to a lower level and without realising, jumped in the water, passed out and sank.
If the rebreather was switched on during the pre breathe it would have warned him of the low PPO2.
If he didn't do the pre breath and just jumped in the water, the rebreather would have sensed it was in water, turned on and warned him of the low PPO2.
If you are sat in your home breathing on a rebreather without turning it on you will die.
When situations seem unacceptable, can you contact the agency (SSI/padi etc.) to report the shop and will they audit the shop? Or do you just have to eat the monetary loss and refuse to dive. This is better than being dead or injured but it seems unfair that agencies allow this. The whole point of an agency for me is that I can count on standards.
i feel so sorry for ashley. she must have struggled so much with blaming herself after this.
I lived and worked on Grand Cayman for several years and got to experience some of the best diving in the world from my own backyard.
(Highly recommended for experienced divers.)
Recreational OW to CCR DM in 22 weeks of part time education? Who actually thinks thats safe?
Sometimes you can't put a timeframe on experience. I look more into hours than timeframe. Like a diver who had 100 hours in 3 months vs a diver who had a 100 hours in 1 year. If I said that guy had 1 year experience vs 3 months experience most would assume the 1 year had more experience than the 3 months based on time alone. It's just a broad example but basically every scenario is different. Over confidence kills however and human error will come into play in every hobby and profession no matter what, accidents will always happen.
The brain learns by repetition and sleep, the sleep is crucial and the sleep takes time.
Too sad, the dive school were running the courses and getting paid for it. This young man, because the school was ineffective, died. Sad.
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It's not at all right, nor fair, to blame his wife! She simply said she was behind him and knew he really wanted to finish (which was (1) one last dive! This is instructor error , Brian's error for wearing a dry suit in very hot weather and rushing through the checklist because he was hot and frustrated! Blaming his wife is actually very unfair and a very erroneous statement, for which you should be ashamed of!!
Don’t skydive or scubadive if you are married and have kids, it’s irresponsible and inconsiderate…their well-being should always be your primary concern.
Do these things BEFORE you start a family.
That is all.
don't forget, his wife was pregnant! He was acting like a teenager who first discovered diving
If you watched the video he was ready to pull out of the final dive.
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Had he pulled out and he wouldn’t have left any children behind
It's not that cut and dry if you think it is that's really unfortunate for you ✌️✌️✌️
It absolutely is that cut & dry. Responsibility comes first & the ultimate responsibility is being a parent….
No one can completely remove risk but high risk activities absolutely can be eliminated. Choosing otherwise is a risk no parent should take.
His grasp exceed his reach...the main lesson to take from these diving accident videos is to stick with recreational open-circuit scuba diving (unless diving for specialized work or military purposes).
He had problems with the instructors…
Mmmm 🤔
Sounds like they're going legal! Unfortunate to the family however u can't put all the blame on the instructor.
Too bad the words at the bottom of the screen are unreadable.
yay