2021 Lexus ES 250 AWD: The best luxury car value available today
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- MotoMan drives the first ever Lexus ES with All Wheel Drive and in this combo TECH REVIEW, FIRST DRIVE REVIEW & round of our famous #OptionsGame, he presents a car that has one challenge but proves to be the best value for money . . . and not just as a luxury car.
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Lovely looking car, I wouldn't mind having it as a daily driver
My 2021 RX V6 AWD is the same price with 12.3” nav. Not sure how ES can sell without discounts.
They are both Lexus, to me I consider them the same even though they aren't, they are to many crossovers on the road,my parents own a crossover for a change I'd like a sedan 😁
@@ag4eng Because the RX looks like a soccer mom car. Sedans have always been the trademark of Lexus, so they’re always gonna sell and retain their value. They’ll discontinue the GX and LX SUV’s soon because those REALLY aren’t selling.
"they treat you like you do not have a brain"...that's how I felt in Audi dealerships for many years. Until I had enough and dumped the brand.
Daaaaang -- 203hp AWD mid-sized luxury sedan?! How DID they DO IT?!?! So, amazing!
Yes -- I'm being sarcastic.
😂😂
Plenty of power for reasonable human beings.
@@UhOhUmm -- But if I wanted reasonable power AWD sedan I'd buy a legacy. Or maybe an AWD fusion, if they still make those.
If people weren't in love with tech they'd buy the better option - GS350.....to bad lexus killed it.
@@scholz222 -- GS isn't an option for people who need folding rear seats. Sometimes Toyota is their own worst enemy.
Thank you, now I know what car not to get lol...great review as always
Honestly, do you think the 4 cylinder is a deal breaker?
52k is not bad for a luxury Lexus but if you know that it's a spiced up 4cyl camry... I want the GS back.
2021 Acura TLX AWD is a better package. Japanese quality, value, ownership experience and it is not gutless with way more torque and HP. No brainer really.
Appears that AWD would pair well with a 2.0 turbo.
Too much cost over $50K already.
Its not a turbo
@@teemanz2264 it should be!
@@normt430 i know a lot of people love lexus!! But the Hp on this is only 203... i ended getting the 2021 Acura TLX AWD tech package. 272 hp 2.0 turbo. I had the v6 prior to be honest i like the handling on it and speed not an issue!! Good for the upstate NY weather i needed awd.
8,6 seconds is preaty slow for a luxury car
Less than 200 lb-ft of torque on a nearly 4000lbs vehicle will do that. Don't expect to pass a Camry or RAV4 on a highway with those specs.
Slow, just the way their geriatric customers like it. Get the Lexus ES 350 F Sport if you want something faster and a little more exciting to drive.
@@gedaman The ES350 F Sport also wouldn't be fun. At that point just get a 3 series.
It’s slow for any car today. My Accord is 5.6 seconds or so. That isn’t a luxury or sports sedan, it’s a mainstream car!
@@chrisa2223 An Accord can do 0-60 in 5.3 seconds (as per C&D), even a Lexus IS350 F-sport can't do that. Just shows how far behind Lexus is with their engine line-up.
You could get a new Genesis G80 5.0 V8 for 53k USD. - fully loaded - when they were still available.
But low resell appeal and depreciation would keep you from doing so
@@michealjordan5411 No doubt. But you enjoy a lazy V8 in the process. Very different experience.
@@nelsonricciardi7087 a very different experience indeed a wheezy 4 cylinder that does 0-60 in 8.6 or a smooth v8 that does 0-60 in 5.1
But then you have to get it serviced at a Hyundai dealership. Who wants that?
@@gedaman That is a very good point as most (all?) are profoundly bad.
Yes, it is AWD, but it has a little tiny 'Corolla' engine in it. That is NOT luxury.
Wouldn’t say corolla, more of a 4 cylinder Le camry
I have a 2020 Camry with this engine, and I really like it. More than enough power for me, and it gets 36mpg in every day driving, and 40+ mpg on the highway. 👍
My 2019 Camry XSE has this same 2.5L engine. It’s no slouch. Drive it first before you judge it.
This isn't a car for young peoples, that is $10k difference compare to top model Camry 4.so all the money go to material &brand name .it depend on you have money or not to buy it.
The TLX is better value and better styled and better performing and has better AWD with all available engines...
Good for my grandpa.
Do TLX 3.0T type-S...
Not out for a few months. With just single turbo V6 will be at a lower level than Audi 3.0T.
@@normt430 i hope hey surprise us!
And i think they will😃
@@aymanal_jahwari9148 the new TLX is already behind the Accord on many fronts.
@@normt430 Unfortunately that is true
Hard to see if the design changed from previous model.
Yeesh
I’ll pass
With the pathetic engine on this thing, I think you would pass an ES 250 AWD on the highway if you were just jogging alongside it.
@@little123456788 LOL
Camry , corolla it's ok something I can remember
But lexus EX or SL, SE, ES this letters no one can remember it will kill the car
Wow, the power train in this car is pure trash for a Lexus!!! Unbelievable how terrible Lexus is
Overpriced and slow.
The brand's branding still lacks appeal.
If you're looking for a cushy reliable luxury sedan, than yes consider the ES250. However for about the same price you can get an Acura TLX AWD that has a double-wishbone suspension, a *real* torque-vectoring rear-axle (not the fake, brake-based torque-vectoring that the ES uses), and nearly *3 seconds* faster 0-60. And in terms of ride quality, the TLX is almost just as plush but significantly less wobbly around a corner.
I don’t trust Honda after the dismal experience I had with my 2015 Acura TLX. They’re cut rate premium sport sedans trying their hardest to fool people with money into thinking they’re “special”. The new Acura RDX, MDX, and NSX are very nice. I don’t think I would own anything Honda again after my brand new Acura TLX inexplicably overheated and left me stranded. Thankfully it was in a nice suburb when the burning smell came from under the hood. I’ll take a Lexus anyway over a shiny Acura no matter the price.
@@gedaman that's strange, my brother has a 2016 TLX and my uncle has a 2015 TLX, absolutely no problems for either. Never overheated, not once.
My aunt had a 2014 Lexus ES that needed the battery replaced 3 times. It turned out the bluetooth was malfunctioning and kept trying to reconnect even when the car was off. She was left stranded on 2 occasions in her Lexus. Fortunately my uncle was able to pick her up (in his 2015 TLX).
@@gedaman And Lexus stands behind their products better than Honda
@@zoner__ I doubt I will ever buy another Honda. Their cars are so cheaply built. People are brainwashed into thinking anything Japanese made is “reliable”. You get what you pay for. Acura is just a pseudo luxury brand (premium marque). I was very disappointed with the Acura TLX I leased years ago. Lexus and Infiniti are a few steps above, but still behind the Germans.
This powertrain should not be in a Lexus. Aside from lack of power, it’s a loud, unrefined motor. It should be the V6. I’ve never experienced the hybrid but if it’s like the regular 2.5 in the Toyota (and now Lexus) lineup it’s a rough loud engine.
Must be compliance for fuel economy.
I used to own Is350 because of the exterior design. Now I m getting older and ES looks good to me but the issue is the powertrain and handling . As a greedy driver and customer, I wish I had vehicle with Lexus quality and German’s soul and handling 😂
Look at CT6 for steering feel. It is quite impressive!
Try Genesis G80
@@kalaslee4206 I wish I trusted Korean quality, but so far, I don't.
After driving both the new Toyota Avalon and Lexus ES I think I would spend the extra money for the Lexus. The fit and finish is just so much nicer in the Lexus ES.
7:58 I love the way Lexus nickel and dimes their customers for LED headlights in 2021.
Totally agree. The finish is always on point with Lexus. I’m on my 2nd Lexus now and their interiors still give me what I need to get through life. Yeah the infotainment could be better in a 2017 RCF but whatever. I just wanted the v8 engine.
But back to you! $51k. You can easily do a 2019 ES350, maybe entertain the GS models. Now if you want to go bigger. Even the 2013-2017 LS460s will be well under $51k after taxes. And if you’re just fancy like that there’s always a 2018 LS500.
51k for a 4cylinder ES is just not right at all. ES350, GS or the Avalon.
Happy hunting. Lexus or not you can find a lot of car for $51k.
Is avalon is bigger than ES?
Everyone: we want the ES with AWD!
Lexus: “here you go! AWD, with the 4 cylinder.”
Everyone: Not that engine! We want the V6!
I agree, it's awd is a liability with that puny 2.5. At least the German 4 cylinders make adequate power.
@@gunterkeegan670 The German 4 cyl's are turbos, not this 2.5NA.
@@digitaldoc100 interestingly, so the 2.0, or whatever it is in the TLX. While it got up to speed fast enough, it wasn't very satisfying.
I personally avoid 4 cylinders in larger cars, so I'm biased. My uncle was impressed with it, but I think the German 4cylinder turbos are likely even better than honda
@@gunterkeegan670 I personally like the new TLX, yes the German cars will be faster but the TLX will last longer
@@zachg9065 actually the TLX is a nice car and definitely will out live the Germans.
They really should have put this with the six cylinder or at the very least their turbo four.
ES 250 is entry level.
ES 300h is hybrid 4
ES 350 is 3.5L V6
@@exoticwhipsbroadspipesandbags yeah but you can only get AWD with the 250
@@kgisabeast I’m aware, I agree with the original comment. They should offer the 350 with AWD
They want you to but an IS or GS for a 6 cyl AWD.
So well said on dealerships. I know it sounds weird . But I look forward to seeing the guys at my Lexus service center . Our conversations are never ending on every topic. Then I get food, cappuccino, a bottle of water for my choice of loaners . I get to bring it back whenever I want. Never worry about gas . And when I do return it. They fill up my car with gas . Truly unbelievable, each visit .
Great review and insight, as always George. I agree on the V6 + AWD, that would be nice. Their V6 is silky smooth as is. I care less for "speed", it is fast enough, I want a car in which I WANT to spend time in and enjoy. Lexus, for me, is all that. Nevermind the fact that it lasts forever and has the best customer experience available. Also, not extravagent to own
As you mentioned, I bought the ES hybrid based on your review of the 2019. It is a lovely daily driver. Quiet, comfortable, great stereo, and great accommodations for passengers. And yes, I’m a grandparent, but definitely an enthusiast. Also, I’m glad you didn’t review another minivan, too. 😎 Also, I have a Del Boca Vista t-shirt, although I live in MD.
Only Newman drives Minivans.
@@MotoManTV SUV, crossover, minivan. They’re all the same thing. Whenever I see a guy driving an SUV, I think his car must be in the shop and he has to drive his wife’s car that day.
@@MotoManTV "Hello, Newman" - Seinfeld
Mmmmmm, Crabs
I suppose this car has an target audience, but I imagine the typical Lexus buyer would prefer a smooth V6:or hybrid AWD.
Lexus really should have just added the e-AWD system to the V6 model. It would be a bit more expensive but still good value.
You mean it would cost even more than $50K?
@@normt430 Yea, 55K for an ultra Luxury Trim Hybrid AWD would not be too bad. I am sure a large number of ESs are leased which due to the high residual value makes them far less expensive than the Germans. The real reason you can't get a hybrid AWD V6 is probably that the RX exists and outsells the ES by a very considerable margin while being in the same ballpark for pricing.
@@Piketom1 You would be correct. They are not going to expand upon their ES line when the RX and NX models continuously outsell sedans.
@@Piketom1 sort of a stretch to take a $20K Camry to Lexus at $55K let alone $50K for this. If you think you can't get into a BMW 530xi 2.0T that will run rings around this for similar sub $50K right now on autotrader you haven't shopped this segment.
For this performance just get a Camry, this car is a waste of money
That what I said, I rather get the Camry XSE v6 over this. They both have the same tech
Camry over Lexus? Nah!
@@kaleidoscopeon what tech this have Camry xse V6 don't have? Both are reliable . Camry XSE have all the tech you want . After all Lexus is Toyota parent company, people buy Lexus before of Toyota record. You can get the XSE v6 fully loaded for 35k.
No way in hell am I take a Toyota over a luxury car
@@ebonix33 that “luxury” car is literally a Toyota Avalon lol
Here in Canada ES250 Base is 45000 and there is a 3000 delivery credit.
The premium package is 4500 and the ultra premium package is 10000.
I’m seriously considering buying one because that 3000 dollar incentive is too good to pass on the ES250.
I think it’s probably because the es250 aren’t selling as well as the others
80% of Lexus owner wouldn't be able to feel the difference between AWD, Front or Rear. Branding and safety is key. They're smart enough to think that not slipping makes them as safe as talented driver.
Made up statistics are dumb, and virtually never accurate. So is stereotyping people. Yet here we have both still, in 2021.
@@mrsj1417 70% of the people at the Lexus dealership I work at are new immigrants...mostly Chinese.
Lexus must be smoking crack if they think this 200HP 4-banger can compete with the German AWD executive sedans.
A 530xi starts at 56k, an A6 quattro starts at 55k, and the Merc e350 4matic starts at 56.7k. Those significantly more expensive and more quick cars are all 4 bangers too. They sound nasty. All of them with Mercedes being the worst.
@@bassandtrebleclef Yes they all sound like shit but they also can hit 60 in about 6 seconds or less while the ES 250 is lucky to get there before 9 seconds.
A wheezy 4 cyl in a 40k lux car means it's not really a lux car. BMW pulled this nonsense with the last gen 3 series that was a dog inside and out. A 26k 1.5T Accord drove better than that 3 series and I bet that same 1.5T Accord drives better than this as well.
Lux carmakers need to understand.... people are cross-shopping. This looks like a phoned in effort.
I don´t care about Lexus (they don't sell in Europe) but about George´s reviews. Looks nice and exotic (because we don't see them) I guess the 4zyl only works for me if it comes with an electric motor to give it oomph.
Wishlist: either EV or PHEV, don't sell it as 4cyl only, leave it to the Camrys...
Yes I agree they should have used the E-awd hybrid system with 243 hp. Would have been a much better fit for this car.
Europe must be too smart to buy an overpriced Toyota. Ironically in Japan they prefer to buy European luxury cars too instead of Lexus or the more expensive Nissan and Honda vehicles which are sold as Infiniti and Acura in North America.
@@gedaman They tried to sell and position Lexus in the mid 90th, not a big hit. BTW I looked up their presence in Germany, they still sell! Nobody knows about it...
We have a brand new 2018 CT6 plug-in hybrid we purchased 10 months ago for $36K fits the handling and over +40 mpg city. Plus we have 40 miles all electric range which we never use up daily driving.
@@normt430 sounds like a great fit - how do you like the build quality? How is the fun driving?
Also another brand we don't have over here.
Love me some Lexus, however, the 2.5 4 cylinder is just not enough power in a 4,000 lb vehicle IMO. Pair this AWD drivetrain with their bulletproof 3.5 V6 and you will have a much higher take rate. I do have to agree though that the customer for this specific vehicle will probably be alright with the 4 cylinder. Lexus is also working on a new electrified AWD drivetrain called Direct 4 which looks to be a game changer as far as driving dynamics of their vehicle lineup in the future. So, there should be some good things coming from Lexus within the next 2-3 years.
Does the 3.5l still have port injection and low fuel economy?
@@normt430 it’s GDI and port, most of their cars have switched to this for better fuel economy and no carbon buildup.
@@tails300 GM has been doing DI since 2006 in their 2.0T and never had issues with carbon. Maybe Lexus demographic don't blow out the carbon or do long drives on occasion as evidence by the stream of condensation coming out of their tail pipe. But it sounds like added costs and complexity down the road having an extra set of injectors and controller to run them.
@@normt430 GM has other problems with that engine besides carbon buildup. Let’s not pretend modern GM engines are good because they’re not.
buickforums.com/forums/threads/tuning-2-0t-reliability-issues.39842/
@@tails300 that was an oil formula in the latest Dexos 1 Gen2 that switch calcium and magnesium use. No engine related problems since 2006 in the Ecotec 2.0T that Honda might see like overboost to limp mode in their 2018 2.0T.
I’m ok with the Camry AWD or Avalon AWD since thy are cheaper than the Lexus. But the Lexus ES should have a v6 awd to make it a worthwhile upgrade. Because you have to either get the IS300 or IS350 to get AWD, or get a Highlander or rx350
I have a nebula grey ES350. With my veteran plates it is the ultimate grandpa mobile and I don't mind that at all. I would have a really hard time driving one with a 4 cylinder. The V6 is wonderful.
Gotta say, I haven't cared about lexus in a while but the new IS looks really nice. This ES is fine...
This car is so geriatric, that my 80 year mom chose the IS300 awd over this ES because it drives and looks much better.
Shame on Lexus no real leather available @ 40k plus...
What a joke, AWD not available with the V6. Lexus sucks.
Nice review, very balanced.
Sorry to say this a transversly mounted front wheel drive biased drivetrain will never be a fucking luxury car... Why the motherfuckers cant put the engine longitudinally... Coz idiots buy
Just bought mine and i agree completely with all comments, especially how a little more power would be nice. However, it IS an awesome car for the bucks
Fyi-also drove a loaded up camry-its not in the same class as the lexus
Lexus always the best ..
No
when I hear “Executive Sedan” yeah I definitely think of ES. Business...amenities....appearance...brown....documents.
The ES has always been a bottom rung Lexus based on Avalon in the past now shares with both Avalon and Camry.
Brown - ROTLMAO!
I'd rather just have my 2017 ES with 3.5 V-6...
I would never buy it with the 4cyl engine. Such a shame they don't offer the v6
2022 hopefully
great review.. but a slow large and heavy toyota.. that’s the Toyota way.
That’s why that mark Levinson has 1700 watts.
ooooooo. I just purchased a 2003 lexus es300....this would be a great upgrade...
Reliable and high resale value is the Lexus game
A well built sedan with the refinement of a AWD RAV4 is the definition of laziness in Toyota’s part.
They should have gone the NX power train way: 2 liter turbo, with torque and refinement expected in class. However, Toyota didn’t want to spend more money on the TMMK plant and is more profitable just assembling the Avalon, Camry, ES AWD in one single serve package.
When my 2018 Gs f Sport lease was coming to end ,as the Gs was also ending . They tried to talk me into this. It’s a generic FWD CAR. Horrible. Apples to oranges. What a disappointment. Even the dashboard was ugly . With that said . I searched the whole country for the last 2020 GsF Sport Blackline . And I found one in Virginia. I am a happy camper. Yes the Gs is old in the tooth . But light years better than this junk. Sorry Lexus!
Way underpowered. My lawnmower sounds better. Give me an A3/A4, BMW 2/3 series. And for a base of 39k...then over 51k with overpriced options for a slow luxury car...stop. Just stop. So many better options if you don’t want to pay for a name.
51K + Tax + dealer fee + 4 to 5% finance for 60 months. You will end up paying 64 to 65 K in 5 years
My friend got Lexus Rx350 L V6 AWD Base model, 0 options, 7 seater for 51K out of the lot.
It has many of these listed options as standard.
After a year of consideration of all that is and is not on this vehicle, the efficiency factor relative to mpg is worth every penny and the comfort is still here...really do like our 2021 ES 250. I'd buy another one. We traded out a Large 2020 Ford Expedition for this, and we do not regret it.
Toyota: "People are CUV hungry. So let's just drop the 2019+ rav4 engine and drive train in the camry/avalon/es, charge more for it, and call it a day"
Voice of Reason: "Wouldn't it be disingenuous to the consumer if we didn't have the highlander/rx drivetrain as an option at least?"
Toyota: "Nope."
Voice of Reason: "...k"
Idk why Toyota/Lexus always play it safe. The Koreans have been dropping straight heat lately and they have surpassed Lexus imo. The powertrain in this car is pathetic.
This car is perfect if it's have Naturally Aspirated 500hp+ V8 with AWD system.
I have this car and I swear I love my car ..
The only car to drive in Winter if you keep arriving too early to all your sleep apnea appointments in Pasadena.
they got rid of the gs for a shitty es i mean still looks nice just not a fan of the platform no point of having the same car platform 3 times im sure a fully loaded avalon cost less
this car would be cool if i didnt have a stock 97 eclipse gsx thats awd and turbod or legit build the lexus es350 all day everyday for a living
What's this? Not a 500+ hp SUV coupe? Disliked and unsubscribed.
This underpowered car is no where near the best luxury car value available today. That is hilariously absurd.
Too loud for a Lexus. Need a 4cyl turbo or V6
Excellent reviewer.
Good review stupid engine
Wish list. Plug-in hybrid.
A toyota 4 cylinder will last virtually forever and the maintenance costs are substantially lower.
4-cylinder + Lexus = pass.
What a joke.... the best???????
Good review. Not a great car for robust driving. But a deal if you’re keeping it for 5 years
It probably has a Toyota Corolla motor it's like taking a mobile home and putting it in a mansion
The Lexus AWD is way to unrefined I'm sorry to say. To slow and to much vibration from the underpowered engine.
I own a 2019 ES F Sport in Canada where you can't cherry pick from an option list. Options are all packaged up. Here is my wishlist from the great white north: > V6 turbo AWD 'bout 375 Hp / > touch screen infotainment system> electronic transmission shifter > Levinson audio in F Sport models > ambient lighting strips > wireless Apple Car play ( that actually works reliably.. note upcoming Iphone 13's are reported to NOT have a port of any kind) > less hard plastic in the interior > more functional and customizable HUD > version 3 of driver assistance package so I don't ping off lane edges and off ramp markings don't throw the system into a tizzy....
You have highlighted a major reason why Mercedes, BMW and Audi will continue to dominate lexus.
They offer the wow factor that people want.
These customers lease, trade every few years and couldn't care less about the reliability. I want both.
As always great insight on the car. Understanding what the target audience let you better understand the car
08 GS350 RWD owner, It had impressive traction in the snow, unless you have a steep driveway on a mountain you should be fine in 8 inches of snow without the AWD
When in doubt throttle out! 3.5 had plenty of that
I think their initial concern is the packaging in the rear for an E-AWD system. In the SUVs theirs more space to work around. In the ES and Camry their stretching the driveshaft along side the exhaust pipe to save space (ie the hump in the rear foot space). If they wanted to add an electric motor in the rear they would have to compromise trunk space which they decided not to do. I would be fine with less trunk space if it means I get a hybrid AWD. Though I’m just one guy
This definitely limited by the Camry platform and Camry and Avalon prices. This Lexus model is not Tier 1 luxury but more of a Buick to Toyota.
How does it compare to Toyota Avalon AWD?
Same platform. MUCH better dealer experience. The rest is subjective: Design and interior appointments. That said, I do feel the interior is of better quality in the Lexus.
Gotta be with V6
The front of that car is uglier than the Nissan puke.
No, get your eyes checked
@@deairreoh it's fucking hideous
Im sorry close to 9 seconds 0-60 for a 55k car! In a vacuum not terrible. But speed is relative folks. 15k hyundai accent hits it under 8! 1994 called they want their powertrain back.
if i can afford...sure buy
In the ES250AWD, maybe keep the 4 cylinder, but with a turbo and an additional 50HP.
Over priced crap 💩
Now that they have cancelled the GS, Lexus needs to cancel LS, IS and ES too. They should just build one proper car with eAWD hybrid that is fast like the RAV4 Prime, but much better handling. There are too many models and none of them good. The GS was the best.
8:12 - "Del Boca Vista" :)
No 4 cylinder for me in a Lexus. Hell No
MB E class and Break My Wallet, BMW 5 series come with standard 4 cylinders.
What has the world come to, this is blasphemy.
v8
Thanks for putting things in perspective which is a distressingly rare trait in TH-cam car reviews. If we look at the AWD ES as a mid-cycle retrofit priced around $40K, it has to be considered a welcome addition to the lineup. Of course you have to wonder whether a Hybrid AWD retrofit would actually be harder than adding the mechanical driveshaft to the rear wheels so I fully share your expectation about a future AWD Hybrid. Lastly, if 131 mph is not fast enough..........
This is just Camry platform phoned in. TMC thinks it can further raise prices on unpopular sedans when cuvs rule the roost. The Lexus UX and CH-R are sales flops in the fastest growing segment.
The hybrid would add too much cost to this at $50K already.
Nice Camry LE AWD...
I was hoping a 3.5L V6 AWD 🥺
The Lexus ES has been based on the Toyota Avalon since 2013 MY. Everyone was expecting a V6. If the Avalon AWD had a V6 then the Lexus ES AWD would have it too. That’s Toyota U.S.A. engineering.
Can you have 3.5L with AWD? (no hybridification)
Covered in the episode in detail.
@@MotoManTV sad they won't put it out, while killing GS line
Why don’t people understand that the Lexus ES is a badge engineered Toyota Avalon? If the Avalon AWD doesn’t have a V6 then neither will the Lexus ES AWD.
The interior looks really awful.
I give this a few years (if that) before they drop this 4 cylinder AWD set up. For the money this is purely unacceptable.
Toyota your letting us Down!