Mr. Beard's definition of a slur that he uses in this conversation contradicts the one he uses in the subhuman debate, because subhuman doesn't attack any immutable characteristic.
As someone in medicine, the most interesting aspect of this vid to me was Papa talking about his diabetes & how certain attitudes of physicians towards obesity made him stop seeking healthcare. Please do a full video on this, bc it's such a major issue facing our population
Well ive been obeese i live in a family of obeese. Dealing with obeese people, is why that attitude exists. Farther we fly closer to the sun our wings are sure to melt. My grandma was 600 pounds and she never let her self get photographed for years. She hated going to the doctor ebcause the seats were too small. We dont have infastructure for people that size, because people shouldnt be even half that size. Accomadating does not mean adapting and allowance. ITs a hard topic but obeese people are why its such a debate. Cause lets face it. yeah there are some chubbier fat doctors. But most doctors are going to be in better shape. On the opposite spectrum and genuinely have never ever ever been close to the obeese perspective on life. ANd most obeese people believe theyre stuck in it like tar.
It really comes down to this question, do we want equality or not? If we as a society can’t even come to a conclusion on something as simple as equality of speech, than there really is no point in even entertaining the idea of equality.
Based on the amount of just how many racist white people we’ve seen? That’ll never happen. Take into account any racist of any other racist. Unless we all get brainwashed or some insane conspiracy like that were fucked
My only issue is that a majority of the times white people don't actually find it offensive. Alot of times it's just trying to call out hypocrisy more than actually having a problem with the word. I get it personally because I've rarely used the term and when I did it was after someone called me a slur. A better way to convey the message is for people to say essentially what papa gut said because it's hard to take the argument seriously when they say they don't find it offensive to begin with. It's like being called goofy by someone from Chicago. I like in Oklahoma and that's not a Insult. I'm actually pretty fucking goofy myself. But since I know it's being used to disrespect me. I will take offense if someone from Chicago say it too me. This will help people understand that way its not coming off as disingenuous.
@@HP-sq2fp Hey, but don’t complain unless you’re just another example of, “white-fragility”. Makes absolutely no fucking sense. Personally I’m black, but just seeing rhetoric like this drives me up a wall.
Dr. Gut how do i come on your show. I am black american. The black diaspora, and its intrinsic issues are very interesting and complex. BUt you are correct, non-black americans often hate us, but thats the OLDER generation (their parents). Their children (Late millenials and Gen Z) now consider themselves Black, whereas their parents did not. Interesting fact. Most black west africans come here as professionals, just like Chinese immigrants. They hold degrees and are upper-class when they migrate here, which is why there was such an anti-black american and anti-poor sentiments in their household.
tbh i believe one of the most shittiest opinions is disrespect in speech should equate or justify violence, that seems between the realms of control to avoid and honestly feeds into african american stereotypes of them being violent lol
Papagutt we need a video. Grace vanderwaal knew about everything all along we are now in contact with her. She knew about everything all along she is doing everything for her own amusement the situation is out of control her family wants to cut full contact with me but they're at the point to where they're doing everything out of their own amusement basically manipulating me and my family as well for their own popularity and fame
Try being short, chunky, AND a woman. Finding pants that don’t either fall to your ankles or cut off circulation to your lower body…impossible. And on the off chance you manage to break in a pair of jeans that don’t make you miserable…the chub rub decimates the fabric.
We are trying to fight them right now but they're trying to do a full-blown lawsuit and have me and my family and my disability Care service arrested and shut down
I watch Blackadder (love the series) and they use the term “dago” which is insulting to Italians. I’m Italian, but it doesn’t bother me. I think perhaps because someone hasn’t attacked me racially so it doesn’t have that feeling attached to it. But if anyone says my ADHD isn’t real I’m like, “ok you’re going down.” Because I deal with that shit all the time and people are serious about it and it’s a damaging narrative. I understand ADHD isn’t about racism but I needed to compare it to Something people say to me that does get an emotional response from me often. (Btw if someone does comment here about it not being real or wants to debate, don’t bother. Just Google ADHD and why it sucks shit for people who have it.)
I just watched your video on the apology Hasan made and I have to say, although I agree it can be offensive to people because of *how* they say it, it is f*cking ridiculous that this word is called the C-word. I'm so confused on how to feel.
Blacks have been historically dehumanized and gained some semblance of control with reclaiming what was once used against them. literally nobody is affected by being called cracker, nor was historically used as a pejorative, it honestly feels like a group of white nationalists wanted to gain pity points.
It doesn't have to be called the c word people are just doing that because they're stupid. Your not gonna get banned for saying cracker you get banned for calling people crackers
@@MasteroftheRitz No one here is comparing a semantical relation to people's suffering. The people who incessantly insert this point, like you, are the ones that do. Honestly, this comes off as a soft-rationalization for the continued use of cracker as a slur. The only people directly comparing them as some kind of equal are a tiny handful of looney right wingers who pander to their audience to paint a picture of white-victimhood, people love to use their shitty hot takes to paint every dissenter with a broad brush like we don't understand that the n-word has history. Also, just because it wasn't used historically as a pejorative, why use that as a reason to brush aside its contemporary usage and shut down people who justifiably don't want to be called a cracker? I honestly don't get this perspective. Who's to say it won't be used that way in the future? Who's to say people aren't negatively affected by being called cracker?Probably just a good idea not to call people slurs based on their race, no? The whole point of the original fiasco was about enforcing the ToS anyways, probably not a good idea to call people racial slurs, regardless of historical usage. In regards to OP's comment, yes calling it the c-word is dumb and not necessary.
I know ppl really like destiny but I find him exhausting. I get anxious when I watch him. He's always so serious and radiates misery. He makes me feel slightly depressed. If I bumped into someone like him at a party I'd run the other way
I think I’m starting to feel the same way or I might just be burnt out on content idk I mostly stick to getting commentary from Papa and Booksmarts now
@@hunteryoung1025 right. He's just draining. Not saying he's wrong or right just draining..I've completely stopped watching his content. We all have that one person IRL when you see their name pop up in your mobile, you're like: not today. You're not stealing my energy 🛑!!
That wasn’t his opinion it was that you could say the N word In private as apart of jokes or songs that already have the word in it. That’s vastly different than pulling a Hasan or Ethan doing the it’s not racist to literally yell cracker at white people only cuz their white and it gets them mad. As papa gut said in another video it’s racist your just making excuses to only be that way towards white people and morally grand stand when it happens to anyone not white.
the use of slurs in a non offensive/educational way as always been okay to destiny however hasan's usage and most peoples usage of cracker is not educational its to attack and not a "joke"
Realy destiny? You stopped the white jokes because it legitimately hurt ppl? Strange, i thought it was because ppl started to use it against you as well.
Unpopular opinion: you shouldn’t look down on people for the color of their skin
That’s not an opinion that’s human decency
@@mommajesus some people are just full on racists
How’s that unpopular
Oh but it’s okay to look down on people for being short? -Ryan Beard
yea extremely unpopular
Mr. Beard's definition of a slur that he uses in this conversation contradicts the one he uses in the subhuman debate, because subhuman doesn't attack any immutable characteristic.
He doesn’t understand the difference between a slur and an insult
As someone in medicine, the most interesting aspect of this vid to me was Papa talking about his diabetes & how certain attitudes of physicians towards obesity made him stop seeking healthcare. Please do a full video on this, bc it's such a major issue facing our population
Well ive been obeese i live in a family of obeese. Dealing with obeese people, is why that attitude exists. Farther we fly closer to the sun our wings are sure to melt. My grandma was 600 pounds and she never let her self get photographed for years. She hated going to the doctor ebcause the seats were too small.
We dont have infastructure for people that size, because people shouldnt be even half that size. Accomadating does not mean adapting and allowance.
ITs a hard topic but obeese people are why its such a debate. Cause lets face it. yeah there are some chubbier fat doctors. But most doctors are going to be in better shape. On the opposite spectrum and genuinely have never ever ever been close to the obeese perspective on life.
ANd most obeese people believe theyre stuck in it like tar.
Destiny > Ryan
It really comes down to this question, do we want equality or not? If we as a society can’t even come to a conclusion on something as simple as equality of speech, than there really is no point in even entertaining the idea of equality.
Based on the amount of just how many racist white people we’ve seen? That’ll never happen. Take into account any racist of any other racist. Unless we all get brainwashed or some insane conspiracy like that were fucked
@@romeofernandez8608 You kind of seem like part of the problem.
My only issue is that a majority of the times white people don't actually find it offensive. Alot of times it's just trying to call out hypocrisy more than actually having a problem with the word. I get it personally because I've rarely used the term and when I did it was after someone called me a slur.
A better way to convey the message is for people to say essentially what papa gut said because it's hard to take the argument seriously when they say they don't find it offensive to begin with.
It's like being called goofy by someone from Chicago. I like in Oklahoma and that's not a Insult. I'm actually pretty fucking goofy myself. But since I know it's being used to disrespect me. I will take offense if someone from Chicago say it too me.
This will help people understand that way its not coming off as disingenuous.
Perfect explanation, the word itself doesn’t actually offend me at all it’s more so the fact that I know the person using it is TRYING to offend me 😂
@@HP-sq2fp Hey, but don’t complain unless you’re just another example of, “white-fragility”. Makes absolutely no fucking sense. Personally I’m black, but just seeing rhetoric like this drives me up a wall.
@@rubbadubbs3242 Idk what that term even means l hear leftist say it all the time but like most shit they misapply the shit.
Destiny and papagut are the only 2 people I watch. Worlds are colliding yet again
what a sad life you have
Destiny and Papagut are logical people that destroy most arguments, Papa is just missing his Jon Tron moment.
I CANT stop binging papa gut videos. Praise baby Jesus in his golden diaper that you popped up in my recommended. #papabless
All we did was reach out for help and this is the attitude that they have with us
Mr.Larson?
mr vice president its dangerous out here run back to the white house
Dr. Gut how do i come on your show. I am black american. The black diaspora, and its intrinsic issues are very interesting and complex. BUt you are correct, non-black americans often hate us, but thats the OLDER generation (their parents). Their children (Late millenials and Gen Z) now consider themselves Black, whereas their parents did not.
Interesting fact. Most black west africans come here as professionals, just like Chinese immigrants. They hold degrees and are upper-class when they migrate here, which is why there was such an anti-black american and anti-poor sentiments in their household.
Is there any way I could get a call with you papa gut? I have a different point of view and I would like to talk to you about it
just wait for his discord stuff with mama gut, it’s the only way to talk to him
holy shit destiny is awesome
tbh i believe one of the most shittiest opinions is disrespect in speech should equate or justify violence, that seems between the realms of control to avoid and honestly feeds into african american stereotypes of them being violent lol
Papagutt we need a video. Grace vanderwaal knew about everything all along we are now in contact with her. She knew about everything all along she is doing everything for her own amusement the situation is out of control her family wants to cut full contact with me but they're at the point to where they're doing everything out of their own amusement basically manipulating me and my family as well for their own popularity and fame
Riiiighht 😬
Lol
Try being short, chunky, AND a woman. Finding pants that don’t either fall to your ankles or cut off circulation to your lower body…impossible. And on the off chance you manage to break in a pair of jeans that don’t make you miserable…the chub rub decimates the fabric.
11:00 im sorry bro but try sitting on a toliet to have your head touch the water. I almost ended it lol.
1:35 na the only dangerous act was the earthquake from that dumpy shaking.... no homo ofc.
Papas take is always refreshing, but it sux cuz I never hear anything like this from anyone else
We are trying to fight them right now but they're trying to do a full-blown lawsuit and have me and my family and my disability Care service arrested and shut down
1:26:17 great point!
I watch Blackadder (love the series) and they use the term “dago” which is insulting to Italians. I’m Italian, but it doesn’t bother me. I think perhaps because someone hasn’t attacked me racially so it doesn’t have that feeling attached to it. But if anyone says my ADHD isn’t real I’m like, “ok you’re going down.” Because I deal with that shit all the time and people are serious about it and it’s a damaging narrative. I understand ADHD isn’t about racism but I needed to compare it to
Something people say to me that does get an emotional response from me often.
(Btw if someone does comment here about it not being real or wants to debate, don’t bother. Just Google ADHD and why it sucks shit for people who have it.)
never met an italian who considers themselves not white
U can prevent water from plashing with putting one piece of toilet paper to water 💦🌊
short people rise up
Emergency
if you don’t add chat into your main channel definitely add chat to the leftovers channel
I just watched your video on the apology Hasan made and I have to say, although I agree it can be offensive to people because of *how* they say it, it is f*cking ridiculous that this word is called the C-word. I'm so confused on how to feel.
Blacks have been historically dehumanized and gained some semblance of control with reclaiming what was once used against them. literally nobody is affected by being called cracker, nor was historically used as a pejorative, it honestly feels like a group of white nationalists wanted to gain pity points.
It doesn't have to be called the c word people are just doing that because they're stupid. Your not gonna get banned for saying cracker you get banned for calling people crackers
@@MasteroftheRitz you can’t fight racism with racism my guy.
@@i.m.s.s2564 I'm not. I'm pointing out that you can't compare a semantical relation to a people's suffering. That's not even close to what I said?
@@MasteroftheRitz No one here is comparing a semantical relation to people's suffering. The people who incessantly insert this point, like you, are the ones that do. Honestly, this comes off as a soft-rationalization for the continued use of cracker as a slur. The only people directly comparing them as some kind of equal are a tiny handful of looney right wingers who pander to their audience to paint a picture of white-victimhood, people love to use their shitty hot takes to paint every dissenter with a broad brush like we don't understand that the n-word has history.
Also, just because it wasn't used historically as a pejorative, why use that as a reason to brush aside its contemporary usage and shut down people who justifiably don't want to be called a cracker? I honestly don't get this perspective. Who's to say it won't be used that way in the future? Who's to say people aren't negatively affected by being called cracker?Probably just a good idea not to call people slurs based on their race, no? The whole point of the original fiasco was about enforcing the ToS anyways, probably not a good idea to call people racial slurs, regardless of historical usage.
In regards to OP's comment, yes calling it the c-word is dumb and not necessary.
You can't show any weapons.
I know ppl really like destiny but I find him exhausting. I get anxious when I watch him. He's always so serious and radiates misery. He makes me feel slightly depressed. If I bumped into someone like him at a party I'd run the other way
I think I’m starting to feel the same way or I might just be burnt out on content idk I mostly stick to getting commentary from Papa and Booksmarts now
@@hunteryoung1025 right. He's just draining. Not saying he's wrong or right just draining..I've completely stopped watching his content. We all have that one person IRL when you see their name pop up in your mobile, you're like: not today. You're not stealing my energy 🛑!!
Which ones destiny lol
@@romeofernandez8608 the stripper
Papa you just need to sit down when you piss. If there's that much cleanup afterwards you need another solution lol.
Today my piss split into 2 different stream at the tip like what the actual fuck is it thinking and doing to make that happen
I’ve been a stander my whole life. I struggle with the same thing as papa gut. Maybe it’s time to move to the sit team
1:06:17
Steven "the n word in private to refer to individuals is not always inappropriate" Bonnell II bitching about the word cracker is hilarious to me.
That wasn’t his opinion it was that you could say the N word In private as apart of jokes or songs that already have the word in it. That’s vastly different than pulling a Hasan or Ethan doing the it’s not racist to literally yell cracker at white people only cuz their white and it gets them mad. As papa gut said in another video it’s racist your just making excuses to only be that way towards white people and morally grand stand when it happens to anyone not white.
Wow you’re a few years late nico….
the use of slurs in a non offensive/educational way as always been okay to destiny however hasan's usage and most peoples usage of cracker is not educational its to attack and not a "joke"
Word has it if you google what willful ignorance is a picture of this comment will appear
Realy destiny? You stopped the white jokes because it legitimately hurt ppl? Strange, i thought it was because ppl started to use it against you as well.
its amazing how people comment like they know the person
saying cracker is a slur is crazy☠️
Emergency
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