Nuova Simonelli Oscar II Espresso Machine
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- The Oscar II by Nuova Simonelli is one of the best values in heat-exchange boiler espresso machines in the market. Marc from WholeLatteLove.com reviews the key features of the new Oscar II with Lou Barba of N.S. For those looking to step up from a single boiler machine, the Oscar II is a low-cost option that can brew espresso and steam milk simultaneously. Optional adapters allow for brewing with ESE pods and Point capsules - a good option for low volume commercial applications which reduces the skill and training required to produce espresso.
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what a beautifull machine, definetly to have it in home or even in a small cafe
It's a wonderful cost effective option for those wanting a heat exchange machine. Thanks for your comment!
Imagining getting a hx machine and use pods
very funny, at 4:19 the bald guy seemed to forget his scripts and Mark apparently was embarrassed a little and trying to keep the conversation going . jokes aside, a very good heat exchanger machine with a very attempting price indeed!
Hi XA, Lou is a great guy. I kind of put him on the spot asking him to do videos when he visits us. Oscar II is a nice machine with a good price point!
Hi guys. Thanks for the video. Wondering about the OPV on the Oscar II as I've seen somewhere it mentioned and then others saying you need a kit. Appreciate your help clarifying things.
Hi M, No OPV in the Oscar II. There is a kit for aftermarket modification as you mentioned.
Whole Latte Love Hello dear ,,, Can you please give the Link for a kit for aftermarket modification ??
I have gaggia classic and I only drink flat white will be a big difference in taste if I use this? I know it is better steamed and workflow but I am wondering about the taste of different
Hi x, Thanks for the question. Steaming workflow is better with the HX boiler in Oscar. Hard to say taste will be any different aside from a more efficient workflow allowing you to focus more on prep.
Marc
beautiful machine. Would have loved to have seen it makes a shot.
i have some video's on my page :-)
Hi Angela, Well, we did not show a shot from start to finish but at :48 there's an extraction of some high altitude (1,300 - 1,800 meters) Peruvian grown coffee from the Cajamarca region. It was incredibly good! Of course I'm partial to single origin high altitude coffees. I prefer those over the typical Italian style blends. It was incredibly sweet with a bold nectarine flavor with hints of honey and caramel.
which one would you prefer? Oscar 2 or Bazzera bz07
Hey overlord, I'd go with the BZ07 for it's more robust construction quality.
Thank u marc apreciate it
How do you descale this machine? Can you make a review with some shots and how to descale?
Is there a way you can show us the cooling flush routine and do a Scace test? I think this machine is very popular the video would be great.
Hi TCF, Thanks for the request! I'll add it to the to do list.
Hi Mark! Is it possible to get an instruction video of how to descale the Oscar II? I read somewhere that it has a drain tap making it very easy to descale. Thanks!
Hi NYC, I'm a little backed up in video production but did find this video for descaling: th-cam.com/video/-eXlC-Eo1h0/w-d-xo.html
Marc
I would spend the extra $250-300 and get a rocket that looks better and has a hot water spout. I think nuovo makes great machines and it does have a larger boiler and reservoir. To me, it looks cheaper, more trendy and less classy. If you like the looks and don't mind the lack of a hot water spout I don't think you will be disappointed. Both the Appartamento and the oscar produce great coffee.
Hi LC, Thanks for sharing your feelings! I agree. NS makes a decent machine but the Oscar II is a bit plasticky on the exterior. Also a more solid build in the Rockets internally. If looking at an Apartamento be sure and check out the Profitec Pro 500 PID: www.wholelattelove.com/profitec-pro-500-pid-espresso-machine It's ~$100 more than the Appartamento and has much better brew temp accuracy and even better internal build.
Marc
Kindly advise how to increase the coffee brewing temperature as the pressure switch screw is glued and cannot be turned,Thanks
Hi WLL! Hoping you might be able to help me with a question 🙏 I saw a second hand used Oscar ii (unfortunately I can't afford a new machine) but it looks like it is set up for the point pods - the portafilter looks distinctly different to a regular portafilter - do you know if this would be an easy job to convert back to regular group head/portafilter to use with freshly ground coffee? Thank you so much 🙏☕☕
hello
which is better this machine or Bezzera BZ10 ?
knowing that the price difference is nearly 266$
thanks
Hi, Thanks for your question! See the link below for a side by side spec comparison of the 2 machines. Personally I prefer the BZ10 but that doesn't mean you should. The Oscar uses a thermo-siphon group while the BZ10 has an actively heated group. Which one is better? Think that comes down to personal preference. The BZ10 with the electrically heated group and 1.5l boiler vs. 2l in the Oscar will be up to temp and ready to brew/steam sooner than the Oscar. But the Oscar will have a little more steam in the tank - not a huge difference but if you're doing many back to back milk based drinks it might be a consideration. The BZ10 uses more traditional internal components while the Oscar has things you'll only find in NS machines. Good example of that is the electronics controller. Then there's the plastic. The Oscar has a lot of it on the outside and a bunch inside . That's part of what keeps the price down and makes it one of the most affordable HX machines. The BZ10 is all metal and has a much smaller footprint if counter space is a concern. I rarely use programmable volume dosing on semi-auto machines. Many people do and love it, but I'm not one of them. So I prefer the more straightforward on/off brewing on the BZ10. Hope this helps!
www.wholelattelove.com/product_comparisons/show?products%5B%5D=bezzera-bz10-espresso-machine&products%5B%5D=nuova-simonelli-oscar-ii-pour-over-in-red
thanks that was very helpful
what dose programmable volume dosing do?
i can not understand the way that they work
You're welcome, Programmable volume allows you to program the amount of water that is pushed through the coffee puck. So on the Oscar you could program each of the brew buttons to deliver a preset amount of water. Not every machine has this feature. Some users like this as you can put in a portafilter, push the brew button and walk away from the machine and it stops automatically. The BZ10 is manual in this regard. Flip the switch to start brewing and flip it back to stop.
Uh… did the rep just say expresso at 2:20??? Bruh
Is this an upgrade from the Sage Barista Touch?
Hi Emad, Depends on what's important to you. It's a simpler and more serviceable machine.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage The Touch is driving me crazy, coffee is always cold. I need an upgrade, a more professional machine without the built in grinder. I am kind of lost. budget is 1500 USD max.
Hi Mark, which is better coise for good espresso, this one or single boiler PID machine like Lelit (58mm). Im focused on espresso.
Hi Ahmet, Thanks for the question. If not concerned with or only doing very occasional milk drinks then a single boiler PID is the way to go. My favorite in that class is the ECM Classica with flow control: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ecm-classika-pid-espresso-machine-with-flow-control
Marc
what is the difference between heat exchanger and a machine with double boiler will I see big difference is one machine going to function better than the other
Great question Sam! I'll link to a video below which has an animated schematic of the various boiler types. In general a dual boiler machine will have more stable brewing temps - especially those with PID. But surfing brewing temps is easier on a heat exchange machine using timed flushes before pulling a shot. The thing with that is you never really know the exact brewing temp and a bunch of things like doing lots of steaming or back to back extractions can effect brew temp beyond the flushes. DB typically have more steam available and are not as likely to have swings in brew temps with multiple extractions. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/dksbS6F4K_g/w-d-xo.html
+Whole Latte Love does this means a machine with dual boiler is a lot better because it has more control over temperature so the temperature is stable most of the time
Sam El-Sabagh That is correct
Is there anyway to convert from reservoir to direct plumb?
Hi Jerrod, Thanks for the question. The Oscar II Direct Connect is plumbable out of the box: www.wholelattelove.com/nuova-simonelli-oscar-ii-direct-connect-in-black
As for converting an Oscar II Pour Over to waterline... suppose it could be done but there's no NS approved way of doing it I'm aware of.
Whole Latte Love thanks for the quick reply. Your videos and customer service are excellent. I just ordered the Oscar ii and look forward to trying out a heat exchanger. Any specific cooling flush recommendations?
HI Mark, could you please make a descaling Oscar ii video? Thanks!
Hi yh, I'd love to but two problems. NS does not recommend end user descale the Oscar (that typically would not stop me from doing one) so it's mostly I don't currently have a machine to use in the video.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Sad... By the way, if is possible can we please have decibel value on the machine review video? Thanks!
Hi, in what sense that rancillio silva could be better than this one? You mentioned it in the beginning.
Hi Riz, Not sure. As this machine uses a heat exchange boiler I'd prefer over the Silvia which is single boiler so one cannot brew and steam simultaneously.
Marc
I'm about to purchase the OSCAR II or the gaggia classic, which one you prefer and recommend for me? The difference is like $270. I don't find the OSCAR II so popular! Is it durable? Is it similar or same the classic build quality?
Hi, If you can get an Oscar II for $270 more than a Classic I would go with the Oscar.
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you so much you recommendation is so important to my decision. I just feel more comfortable now about the purchase to the OSCAR II.
thanks for the video, how many cup maximum per day for oscar2??
Hi Rizki, You are welcome! I'd say this machine is capable of doing about 12 per hour.
I've seen that this machine comes in tank and mains water connection. Do you know what connection standard this uses and whether it's possible to switch between tank and mains water?
Hi Timothy, You can see the machine variations here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/rattleware-stainless-steel-latte-art-pitcher. The direct connect version has no reservoir and the pour-over version has no waterline connection so it's one or the other.
+Whole Latte Love thank you. Do you know what type of fitting this will take and the pressure it can take? I'm thinking of using one of the mains water Oscar's with an inline push fit water filter, so was wondering if the machine is push fit or something else?
Timothy Potter It should come with the 3/8 bsp to 3/8 flare.
+Whole Latte Love So do I just need to make the filter system I'm using go to 3/8 bsp?
You would attach to the 3/8 flare
Hi, does Oscar II capable for a small coffee shop around 20 - 80 cups a day?
Hi DA, 20 cups yes, 80 no. If you are in the US give us a call at 888-411-5282 and we can give you machine recommendations based on your situation.
I wish I were in the US :). I'm from Jakarta, Indonesia, your videos help me a lot. Since I'm so far away, would you give your recommendations here? Price range around Oscar II and around 1200 - 1500 watt. Thank you very very much. I appreciate it a lot.
Honestly nothing in the Oscar II price range I can recommend for 80 cups/day. Maybe get 2 machines?
okay, what are the recommendations? Maybe I can save up more to get it
Serious question any news on the Mood?
No news
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks, it’s one I may be considering.
hi sir🙋🏻♂️, i got 2 questions, is the espresso quality is the same as breville bes870? because, i think both have 15 pressure right?
if the pressure is too high, i grind coarser, it solved the problem right?
Hi yi, Thanks for the question. Espresso is generally brewed at 9 bar. If your brew pressure is too high then you'd adjust the maximum brewing pressure of the machine (not possible on some machines) using the OPV. If you cannot adjust brew pressure on your machine an are seeing 15 bar pressure on a guage then you could use a coarser grinder to reduce pressure when brewing.
@@Wholelattelovepage how is this product performance now? is it still good? not many reviews i can find on this machine, some are complaining about it
Hello Marc .. is it possible that i can change the pressure from the opv manually like the old oscar i was using screwdriver before .. and any chance that u can explain how to program the buttons i only use the manual brew because the double shot he just give me 5 sec liquid :( .. really sorry for bothring u
Hi mx, I love answering questions so you are not bothering me! Here's a link to the manual for the Oscar II: www.nuovasimonelli.it/images/stories/site/prodotti/tradizionali/brochure/oscar-ii/manual-oscar-ii-20151000.pdf Programming directions in English are on page 22. Multiple languages in the manual so scroll to your favorite! As to pressure adjustment... I'm assuming it would be similar but I have never done it myself so cannot be certain.
Marc
For low volume small cafe n beginner would you recommend this or vibiemme domobar super? Or maybe rancilio Silvia?
Hi GY, Oscar II could work for low volume. Not familiar with the VDS so no opinion on that. Silvia not appropriate for commerical use.
@@Wholelattelovepage wow! Great.. thanks for the reply.. eyeballing Oscar 2 then...👌👌👌
You're welcome!
@@Wholelattelovepage oh forgot 1 more question. For grinder. What should u recommend? Eureka mignon or compack k3 dozer/ touch?
how can I know the right amount of water for the shot?
A single shot is usually about 30ml a double about 60 ml. Small shot pitchers like this Rattleware help measure with markings for ml and oz: www.wholelattelove.com/products/rattleware-3-oz-shot-glass-pitcher
+Whole Latte Love thanks i go with the oscar 2
Does this machine can make hot water for an americano?
nope
Put water in a cup and steam it! Takes seconds!
I just got this simonelli from you guys and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. The same amount of water comes for single AND double espresso...which is very watered down. Can you let me know how can I correct this before I return it for something simple!!
Hi Irene, The single and double buttons are programmable to deliver the amount of water you like. The process is described in the manual that came with your machine. But here is how it is done: Enter into the programming mode by pressing the 2 coffee button for 5 seconds. Fill the portafilter with coffee and attach to the machine. Press either the 1 or 2 cup button (the one you want to program. Also note if no button is pressed within 30 seconds of entering programming mode the machine returns to normal mode). Dispensing starts. Once the desired amount has been dispensed press the same button again. To exit the programming and memorize the dose press the 2 cup button for at least 5 seconds and the button stops flashing. Hope this helps. Please let us know if we can be of further assitance.
where can we buy the espresso point adaptor?
Hi AA, We carry this kit which is designed to work with Expobar machines: www.wholelattelove.com/aroma-point-capsule-adapter-kit
Whole Latte Love Thanks alot. This is a good option but I wouldn't pay this much knowing that the espresso point will be discontinued soon.
It is cheap because making from blastic