On that same day, Jimmy Johnson accused Buddy Ryan of paying players to knock Luis Zendhas out of the game I was working on Thanksgiving Day. Tomorrow I will be working after a 34-year break.
I wouldn't call Redden the "hot hand" after one good carry, but Bud Carson should've given him another shot. He wouldn't have done any worse than the other halfbacks did.
Two teams that always play on Thanksgiving are the Lions and the Cowboys. The Lions started it because their owner at the time had a deal with one of the broadcast networks
I'm not a Jags fan, but damn I'm glad they got rid of the two-color helmets. On another note, is Brian Daboll Carson's love child or something? Finding something that works and then abandoning that seems to be a Daboll calling card.
Redden wasn't even touched on that run lol. More like, great blocking/poor defense than it being this incredible run by Redden that warranted all these plays designed to go to him
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you did an In Defense Of video about how the Jaguars ended the first half of the 2017 AFC Championship Game you mentioned at the beginning of this video.
“Always ride the hot hand” is a fallacy. You can’t just implement a dominant strategy approach when defenses can & WILL adjust. Also INSANE to say after just ONE carry. That one run was also due to some great blocking and cuts than any NFL RB could make. Instead worrying about his carry total, maybe the Browns should’ve passed better. Y’know the thing that ACTUALLY helps you score points
Agreed to the hot hand fallacy, especially in this case where it is being presented based on a single play. But regarding the passing game, remember that this was played in 1989. The passing game did not work back then as it does today. The Browns were just not mentally focused on this game.
@Crateron1 It was a different time, but with Bill Walsh having already established the West Coast Offense for a while now, you’d think other coaches would understand the importance of the passing game. Plus, they had Bernie Kosar; a very good QB who finished 1989 w/ a 106 ANY/A+. You should be able to trust him to win the game (even if he didn’t end up playing great on Thanksgiving)
@@Sportstalkchud Yeah totally agree! It is surprising how long it took most coaches to realize that planning and scheming based on the passing game was actually viable even after seeing the success the 49ers were having with the West Coast Offense, especially for teams with very good QBs like the Browns during those years.
This video about the Browns not winning on Thanksgiving day is 100% false. The Browns played on 3 Thanksgiving day games during their time in the AAFC. They went 3-0 in those games.
Well, I guess this adds one more to another long list of reasons why the Browns and Ravens have beef. If you really want to be technical about team histories, this incarnation of the Browns that played against the Lions in 1989 ended up moving to Baltimore and became the Ravens. The Browns of today are actually an expansion team that inherited the history and colors, since the IP (intellectual property) rights are shared with the city of Cleveland. Therefore, as this team began operations in 1999, the Browns are also another team that has never played on Thanksgiving if you follow this version of history. Meanwhile, the Ravens had their first Thanksgiving game in 2011 (the first ever Har-Bowl), and played another game in 2013 against the Steelers (the infamous 'Tomlin on the sideline' game), something I bet must infuriate Browns fans till the present day. EDIT: The Ravens won both Thanksgiving games too, so more salt to the wound, I guess.
So what. Clowns rarely play on thankgiving day. And lions haven't been that great on thanksgiving since leaving the silverdome. And go look at '80-'81 lion t'gvg games for choke jobs. Or the '12 meltdown game vs. titans when schwartz didn't know how to use a challenge flag and hanson missed an easy fg as lions lost in ot. lions in one stretch lost something like 10 out of 11 t'gvg games in 2000's at ford field and some were just ugly. Lions couldn't even beat gb last t'gvg game.
“Why the Bengals have never won on Thanksgiving”: Because they don’t play on it. And you had the nerve to make a 15 minute video wasting our time on this?
"But I rode the hot hand" - famous last words from millions of gamblers
That victory jumpstarted Detroit even though it too little too late. The Lions went on to win thier final 4 games and finished 7-9
On that same day, Jimmy Johnson accused Buddy Ryan of paying players to knock Luis Zendhas out of the game
I was working on Thanksgiving Day. Tomorrow I will be working after a 34-year break.
For one play, Barry Redden was looking more like...Barry Sanders.
I wouldn't call Redden the "hot hand" after one good carry, but Bud Carson should've given him another shot. He wouldn't have done any worse than the other halfbacks did.
Two teams that always play on Thanksgiving are the Lions and the Cowboys. The Lions started it because their owner at the time had a deal with one of the broadcast networks
The graphics bring back memories when NBC used the team helmet instead of the team logo
I'm not a Jags fan, but damn I'm glad they got rid of the two-color helmets. On another note, is Brian Daboll Carson's love child or something? Finding something that works and then abandoning that seems to be a Daboll calling card.
Redden wasn't even touched on that run lol. More like, great blocking/poor defense than it being this incredible run by Redden that warranted all these plays designed to go to him
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you did an In Defense Of video about how the Jaguars ended the first half of the 2017 AFC Championship Game you mentioned at the beginning of this video.
As a Giants fan why are we playing on Thanksgiving
@@CarlosColon-m7i New York market
Drew Lock Experience
Why did yankees make the world series? Or jon jones and Tyson fighting Cleveland guys the same weekend?
Because the Browns organization is "The Factory of Sadness"... My sincere empathy goes out to the loyal Dog Pound Legion
You could have said at the end, “Redden the face.”
The only impressive thing jacksonville has ever done is not tie a game.
Nathaniel Hackett was the Jags' OC in 2017? No wonder why they didn't keep giving Grant the ball. Hackett is an idiot.
this is sports/football; it hapens this way at places where I worked too
Bud Carson was fired by the Browns less than a year later. He should have been fired after this game.
“Always ride the hot hand” is a fallacy. You can’t just implement a dominant strategy approach when defenses can & WILL adjust. Also INSANE to say after just ONE carry. That one run was also due to some great blocking and cuts than any NFL RB could make. Instead worrying about his carry total, maybe the Browns should’ve passed better. Y’know the thing that ACTUALLY helps you score points
Agreed to the hot hand fallacy, especially in this case where it is being presented based on a single play. But regarding the passing game, remember that this was played in 1989. The passing game did not work back then as it does today. The Browns were just not mentally focused on this game.
@Crateron1 It was a different time, but with Bill Walsh having already established the West Coast Offense for a while now, you’d think other coaches would understand the importance of the passing game. Plus, they had Bernie Kosar; a very good QB who finished 1989 w/ a 106 ANY/A+. You should be able to trust him to win the game (even if he didn’t end up playing great on Thanksgiving)
@@Sportstalkchud Yeah totally agree! It is surprising how long it took most coaches to realize that planning and scheming based on the passing game was actually viable even after seeing the success the 49ers were having with the West Coast Offense, especially for teams with very good QBs like the Browns during those years.
It’s the Browns.
They're the Cleveland Browns...losing is a tradition with the Browns since 1986. What else do you need to know?
The Browns will someday.... four words i still say.
This video about the Browns not winning on Thanksgiving day is 100% false. The Browns played on 3 Thanksgiving day games during their time in the AAFC. They went 3-0 in those games.
You beat me to this lol.
Just the browns! 🏉🏉🏉😂😂😂
Well, I guess this adds one more to another long list of reasons why the Browns and Ravens have beef.
If you really want to be technical about team histories, this incarnation of the Browns that played against the Lions in 1989 ended up moving to Baltimore and became the Ravens. The Browns of today are actually an expansion team that inherited the history and colors, since the IP (intellectual property) rights are shared with the city of Cleveland. Therefore, as this team began operations in 1999, the Browns are also another team that has never played on Thanksgiving if you follow this version of history. Meanwhile, the Ravens had their first Thanksgiving game in 2011 (the first ever Har-Bowl), and played another game in 2013 against the Steelers (the infamous 'Tomlin on the sideline' game), something I bet must infuriate Browns fans till the present day.
EDIT: The Ravens won both Thanksgiving games too, so more salt to the wound, I guess.
The Jaguars have also never won on Thanksgiving
They’ve also never lost on thanksgiving….because they’ve never played on the holiday
@@UNTDSTSSPRTScan you explain it some more? I still don’t understand
@@marcusmcgraw3519 the Jacksonville Jaguars have never once in their 30 year existence played on thanksgiving
@@UNTDSTSSPRTS I was being sarcastic. I really wish you would have picked up on that, it would have been funnier for you
Jaguars never played on Thanksgiving
if an't broke don't fix it
So what. Clowns rarely play on thankgiving day. And lions haven't been that great on thanksgiving since leaving the silverdome. And go look at '80-'81 lion t'gvg games for choke jobs. Or the '12 meltdown game vs. titans when schwartz didn't know how to use a challenge flag and hanson missed an easy fg as lions lost in ot. lions in one stretch lost something like 10 out of 11 t'gvg games in 2000's at ford field and some were just ugly. Lions couldn't even beat gb last t'gvg game.
As a packers fan playing thr dolphins tomorrow i am officially concerned
FINS UP! 🐬
“Why the Bengals have never won on Thanksgiving”:
Because they don’t play on it. And you had the nerve to make a 15 minute video wasting our time on this?
The Bengals did play on Thanksgiving in 2010, where they lost to the New York Jets in primetime.
@ proving my point, because that was the only time they’ve ever played on it. Nobody cares about videos of irrelevant teams like the Browns
Why are u even watching the video Marcus clown