Best board game series ever. Buying great games that are not just the cult of the new. Nice to get a review after years of other board game competitors have been published. But the format of describing game, pros and cons, and overall review is brilliant. Plus the energy is fantastic! Many thanks!! Ps. Love the dog crap joke!
Prelude and the drafting mode are such huge improvements of the "base" game. Drafting, as you've recommended, does a lot in improving not only the amount of cards you get to look at and choose from, but also player interaction. Who doesn't enjoy picking cards that another player really wants just to spite them and then immediately throw them away? And Prelude lets you skip the early turns of the game where you have lots of things you want to do but no resources so that you have just as many things you want to do but now also the resources to let you do those things. 100% agree about the components. If just the player board was thicker and had slots for cubes, it would be so much better already. The main Mars board comes second.
Our group loves TM. During any miserable lockdowns, we meet often to play this. Our games take from 3 to 4 hours usually. The Prelude is an absolute requirement to speed up the game and give direction to the players. We also have some of the different maps and we have one planet expansion (Venus) which expanded the card deck for more variation and another objective. We have added the UN/Government expansion too and find that this also decreases the game time and gives a much more balanced and level game. We always use card drafting, this is a fun part of the game. It would not be the same without drafting. The components of this game are some of the worst we have ever seen but the game is really awesome. One of our favorites for sure. The game will never repeat, it is a very nice simulation.
Remember, the red outline means *optional* Also, playing with the Prelude Expansion really helps make the Corporations stand out more. They very much help with making the first few rounds much more productive and help steer each player in a certain direction. Also, the new Player Boards that come in the Big Box (I bought them from someone on eBay) are SO MUCH BETTER. They are thicker and have layered separations so the cubes stay where they belong. I've played this game in Solo Mode many times over the last week, and I love it
Thanks for the review. Agree with pretty much everything. Would have been good to mention the solo mode, which as solo modes in board games go, this one is fantastic. Also, at 15:59, I think you misunderstood how resource cubes are used. The "money ones" (copper, silver and gold) should be used for all resources, including titanium, plants, heat, animals etc. There are plenty of them and there is no shortage. The colored player cubes are intended to be used only for marking hexes on the map, the production values, score and the action cards usage.
Yea I’m aware of the money/resource thing but as I mentioned I’m petrified of knocking the mats and having cash as resource cubes would only complicate an already complicated mess.
Our group plays TM every couple of months; one guy went “completist” and even got all the fan expansions he could find. It gets a bit unwieldy... but you may be starting with 300-400 M€! He also got neoprene maps, and trays that hold all the cubes in place, because yeah, the components are not great. Another great review, Thanks! Steve
Great review once again! It is really is a shame that the components are a drag, but the game seems to be once the best in this genre. I am curious, would you compare this to Earth at all? Also, does the expansion help the component issues?
Nice review. I prefer to play the game without drafting and with Prelude expansion and one or no other expansions added. Component quality is like any standard euro game but there are upgrades available for people that like pimped games. For me I have no problems playing with the standard components. Regarding the price I have seen it sold for about 35 euros but you should easy find it for about 50 euro, so I don't think its more expensive than your average euro.
TM is an amazing game, we own all the expansions and it just get requested by our group again and again when they ask what we should play.. :) (and yes, I have a large collection to chose games from).
@@BoardGameBollocks Predule is the most essential expansion (albeit the smallest one). It kickstarts your game by allowing you to take two prelude cards to go alongside your corporation and start project cards. These can give for example free cards, titanium production, plants etc. It skips the first few generations that are very boring, when people are struggling to get their engines going in the direction they want. The only downside is that with these preludes, you may see people taking milestones within the first two gens, so it's important to draft these. After that, I recommend Turmoil. The events and politics it adds is a lot of fun. You have to take into account the events coming (positive or negative), to position yourself by taking as much influence politically, as possible. The politics provide another source for TR, carious bonuses and policies that are active throughout the whole generation (for example gain 4 MC when you build a tree tile). It extends the game time by a fair bit. Colonies at the end. The colonies are nice, they provide some extra options to use your power cubes on, where you can gather all sorts of resources, though I'd buy this last.
Interested to know if u backed the Big Box earlier this year that finally addressed shoddy components? Not cheap by a long-shot, but looks it will make the whole experience a lot more enjoyable!! Looking forward to receiving my copy as didn’t personally own a copy of TM beforehand and looked like a great way to get everything
We didn’t back the big box for a number of reasons. Firstly we don’t use KS out of principle. We don’t believe that the buyer should take the entire financial burden for a product that may not be manufactured. Second, it was way over priced and third we already own the game so there’s little reason to pay for it again.
@@BoardGameBollocks A wise choice - great game though. The big box does not even come with the base game, just some cheap looking plastic tiles and more plastic storage. All for £150. Now that is Bollocks
You need just some player boards to fix the only real usability issue with the components. The official Dual Layer ones from Fryx Games are very good and not too expensive (20 for the set of 5).
@@BoardGameBollocks BTW love the channel... can’t tell you how many of relatives that carry your exact accent! Many me remember the brief time I lived in the UK when I was 5! I still have an intense passion for cricket. I remember when I met Brian Clough I was a huge Not. Forrest fan when I was 5-7 in the 1970’s.
@@BoardGameBollocks Karen's care, so much that they will force you to be safe, or at least force you to be profitable to them and their overlords agenda.
not sure what it about your reviews, but you do provide a real solid explanation of what it FEELS like playing the game. thanks again
Your welcome mate 👍🏻
Best board game series ever. Buying great games that are not just the cult of the new. Nice to get a review after years of other board game competitors have been published. But the format of describing game, pros and cons, and overall review is brilliant. Plus the energy is fantastic! Many thanks!! Ps. Love the dog crap joke!
Thanks mate 👍🏻
Prelude and the drafting mode are such huge improvements of the "base" game. Drafting, as you've recommended, does a lot in improving not only the amount of cards you get to look at and choose from, but also player interaction. Who doesn't enjoy picking cards that another player really wants just to spite them and then immediately throw them away? And Prelude lets you skip the early turns of the game where you have lots of things you want to do but no resources so that you have just as many things you want to do but now also the resources to let you do those things.
100% agree about the components. If just the player board was thicker and had slots for cubes, it would be so much better already. The main Mars board comes second.
Our group loves TM. During any miserable lockdowns, we meet often to play this. Our games take from 3 to 4 hours usually.
The Prelude is an absolute requirement to speed up the game and give direction to the players. We also have some of the different maps and we have one planet expansion (Venus) which expanded the card deck for more variation and another objective. We have added the UN/Government expansion too and find that this also decreases the game time and gives a much more balanced and level game.
We always use card drafting, this is a fun part of the game. It would not be the same without drafting. The components of this game are some of the worst we have ever seen but the game is really awesome. One of our favorites for sure. The game will never repeat, it is a very nice simulation.
Interesting stuff about prelude and the UN expansions. Sounds like they fix a couple of the issues I highlighted in the video. Cheers mate.
One of the best games I've played. Must play again!
Will play with the Venus expansion and alternative maps next time 👍🏻
Remember, the red outline means *optional*
Also, playing with the Prelude Expansion really helps make the Corporations stand out more. They very much help with making the first few rounds much more productive and help steer each player in a certain direction.
Also, the new Player Boards that come in the Big Box (I bought them from someone on eBay) are SO MUCH BETTER. They are thicker and have layered separations so the cubes stay where they belong. I've played this game in Solo Mode many times over the last week, and I love it
Thanks for the review. Agree with pretty much everything. Would have been good to mention the solo mode, which as solo modes in board games go, this one is fantastic.
Also, at 15:59, I think you misunderstood how resource cubes are used. The "money ones" (copper, silver and gold) should be used for all resources, including titanium, plants, heat, animals etc. There are plenty of them and there is no shortage. The colored player cubes are intended to be used only for marking hexes on the map, the production values, score and the action cards usage.
Yea I’m aware of the money/resource thing but as I mentioned I’m petrified of knocking the mats and having cash as resource cubes would only complicate an already complicated mess.
Our group plays TM every couple of months; one guy went “completist” and even got all the fan expansions he could find. It gets a bit unwieldy... but you may be starting with 300-400 M€!
He also got neoprene maps, and trays that hold all the cubes in place, because yeah, the components are not great.
Another great review,
Thanks!
Steve
I’m thinking about the trays but scared of becoming a geek...one of my mates bought a Matt Damon mask to play but I wouldn’t let him in the house.
@@BoardGameBollocks sorry to have to break it to you, but if you play TM you’re probably already a geek.
Cheers mate,
😂🤣😂🤣 Touché, old bean...
I absolutely agree with mate. Another spot on review. Well done
Cheers geezer 👍🏻
Great video
Great review once again! It is really is a shame that the components are a drag, but the game seems to be once the best in this genre. I am curious, would you compare this to Earth at all?
Also, does the expansion help the component issues?
Nice review. I prefer to play the game without drafting and with Prelude expansion and one or no other expansions added. Component quality is like any standard euro game but there are upgrades available for people that like pimped games. For me I have no problems playing with the standard components. Regarding the price I have seen it sold for about 35 euros but you should easy find it for about 50 euro, so I don't think its more expensive than your average euro.
Component quality sucks so relatively more expensive.
TM is an amazing game, we own all the expansions and it just get requested by our group again and again when they ask what we should play.. :) (and yes, I have a large collection to chose games from).
It’s a great game. We only have the Venus and extra map. What expansion would you recommend next?
@@BoardGameBollocks Predule is the most essential expansion (albeit the smallest one). It kickstarts your game by allowing you to take two prelude cards to go alongside your corporation and start project cards. These can give for example free cards, titanium production, plants etc. It skips the first few generations that are very boring, when people are struggling to get their engines going in the direction they want. The only downside is that with these preludes, you may see people taking milestones within the first two gens, so it's important to draft these.
After that, I recommend Turmoil. The events and politics it adds is a lot of fun. You have to take into account the events coming (positive or negative), to position yourself by taking as much influence politically, as possible. The politics provide another source for TR, carious bonuses and policies that are active throughout the whole generation (for example gain 4 MC when you build a tree tile). It extends the game time by a fair bit.
Colonies at the end. The colonies are nice, they provide some extra options to use your power cubes on, where you can gather all sorts of resources, though I'd buy this last.
Nice one. Cheers 👍🏻
Fantastic game with depth and strategy, but it does need more cubes.
Interested to know if u backed the Big Box earlier this year that finally addressed shoddy components? Not cheap by a long-shot, but looks it will make the whole experience a lot more enjoyable!! Looking forward to receiving my copy as didn’t personally own a copy of TM beforehand and looked like a great way to get everything
We didn’t back the big box for a number of reasons. Firstly we don’t use KS out of principle. We don’t believe that the buyer should take the entire financial burden for a product that may not be manufactured. Second, it was way over priced and third we already own the game so there’s little reason to pay for it again.
@@BoardGameBollocks A wise choice - great game though. The big box does not even come with the base game, just some cheap looking plastic tiles and more plastic storage. All for £150. Now that is Bollocks
100% agree, fantastic gameplay. Components are some of the worst I’ve ever seen. If the price reflected the component quality I could understand it...
We picked it up for £40 on release and then saw the price go up to nearly £70...
This is a good game 👍 Did you ever play Red Planet Fantasy Flight Games? That's a good one. My opinion.
Yes we have it here. It’s a bit too short for my liking. Just when you’re getting in to it it’s over. Still one of Bruno’s best games though.
@@BoardGameBollocks I agree 👍 I like it though. It's not too bad. It's a cool game. Do you like Forbidden Stars?
Great game 👍🏻
The component quality is what’s stopped me getting this so far - fingers crossed for a jazzed up edition at some point. Nice review.
You’re gonna have to shell out some serious wedge for that mate...not sure it’s worth the money tbh.
You need just some player boards to fix the only real usability issue with the components. The official Dual Layer ones from Fryx Games are very good and not too expensive (20 for the set of 5).
I’m not a fan of buying extra stuff to fix what was already an expensive game, but with this one there doesn’t seem to any other option.
Maybe a second edition will address this issue at some point. It would entice someone like me who hasn’t shelled out for the game yet.
Agreed. 👍🏻
I think you're the guy who repossessed my furniture, are you?
Fell on hard times, fella? 😂
Yeh the components, Its better playing it on the PC.
Fashions
Ummm...I do my best to look dapper at all times, brother.
Hey, if you ever in Southern California (Riverside) send me a email I’ve got a collection of nearly 700 games we can play sometime
Chances are slim but you never know 👍🏻
@@BoardGameBollocks BTW love the channel... can’t tell you how many of relatives that carry your exact accent! Many me remember the brief time I lived in the UK when I was 5! I still have an intense passion for cricket. I remember when I met Brian Clough I was a huge Not. Forrest fan when I was 5-7 in the 1970’s.
Hate cricket, love Cloughie ✊🏻
This guy is prolly the best thing on this horrible Karen platform. Complete waste of time coming to censorship land.
What’s a Karen platform?
@@BoardGameBollocks Karen's care, so much that they will force you to be safe, or at least force you to be profitable to them and their overlords agenda.
Waaaay too aggressive on the blue... the whole video looks blue... this isn’t arrakis man...
Got a link to your LUTs? Didn’t think so…
@@BoardGameBollocks LUTs? Lol... amateur
That’s was my point…😂✊🏻💦