5:16 In a more recent interview Adam Wingard confirmed that the statement of "Godzilla toying with Kong" was supposed to be a joke and should not have been taken seriously, also the GvK novelization states Kong was *physically overpowering* Mechagodzilla every time they engaged into combat, and that Godzilla was taking Kong as a threat, one that hadn't bowed to godzilla as king either, hence he went after him.
Also It’s very clear Kong can affect Godzilla with his strikes, including when he’s under the effects of tranquillisers and this ignores the fact Godzilla is stated to have grown in power since 2014 1) he’s described as looking like he “juiced” when he’s powered up by the Serizawa Nuke 2) the behind the scenes statements of Godzilla being “tougher” and “more powerful and more dangerous then ever before” by the time of GVK Meaning, Kong went up against a far stronger Goji then Prime did and could be relative to him
Okay, so some MAJOR corrections here. 1. The building did not dislocate Kong's arm, you could already hear it get pulled out of its socket from Godzilla swinging him around. There are also other more impressive durability feats this video ignored. It took enough energy to light up Las Vegas for a week to restart Kong's heart (which left no burn marks on him). Camazotz's Sonic Scream is powerful enough to shake Skull Island so bad that it causes people and heavy equipment to literally jump up in the air when he uses it to DRILL through the ground from the vortex to the surface. And Kong just eats it. Kong at just 220 feet took the Kraken's electricity and venom pretty easily even in the water. He took energy melee attacks from Mechagodzilla. And we know he takes Shimo's planet freezing Frostbite Blast to the arm in GxK. 2. It took two stomps and drilling his foot in twice to actually damage Kong's heart. Muto Prime just took one stomp from a vastly weaker Godzilla and died. Kong is more resilient. 3. In terms of strength feats, you forgot when Kong held the Kraken (something at least three times his size) over his head, ripped it in half, and threw its body thousands of feet up into the air while beaten and exhausted and only 220 feet. In terms of how much that thing weighed, we don't know, but the tsunami made from its impact made a wave much taller than Kong that completely submerged a huge chunk of the island. Also, a Kong exhausted at 50% was able to wrestle with and knock down a 605,000 ton Mechagodzilla, who was THROWING 99,000 - 164,000 ton Godzilla around like a wet towel. So Kong is undeniably stronger than Muto Prime. 4. Godzilla was never toying with Kong. That statement is blatantly contradicted in the actual movie, Novelization, Art Book, and by Greg Keyes. Adam Wingard has said he was just joking around on the commentary and that he sees it as all something extra from the movie and to not take it seriously. www.tohokingdom.com/blog/interview-adam-wingard-2021-round2/ 5. Arvid Nelson, the AUTHOR of Birth of Kong and Godzilla: Aftershock, has stated that Kong would be a horrible matchup for Muto Prime, and has maintained this. He also more recently said that he favors Camazotz against her too, which Zid also backed up. He literally says over and over again that he wrote Muto Prime to not be that impressive relative to other Titans, but to be specifically made to kill Godzilla. That's her entire gimmick. So no, Kong without any weapons takes this, but you are right about the axe, she'd just shatter that LoL.
4. The commentary isn’t the only instance of wingard saying Godzilla wasn’t going all out on Kong. The directors words would trump the novel the art book and whatever underling works underneath him.
Quick note: it’s been confirmed that Godzilla was actually NOT toying with Kong. uh yeah Adam wiengard confirmed it. Muto prime still beats base form and axe but still. (Started a war frick) Also not to be that guy but I genuinely never got on the top comments thing so uh thanks guys :D Edit: help this war is insane. Also even if you disagree PLEASE DONT SWEAR this war is straight up entertainment now. 🍿🍿🍿
@L0rd_skywarp he said that anything said in the director commentary shouldnt be taken seriously and it's not canon to the final film It's obvious godzilla wasn't toying with kong. He was trying to kill him the whole movie
Honestly I personally disagree for three main reasons 1. Kong was weakened when he fought Godzilla: To make it quick the military made a sedative specifically for Kong using his blood that would allow them to transport him which made him weak and sluggish. Sedatives can take take hours to wear off especially if it’s made specifically for you meaning Kong was weakened against Godzilla for both fights. I still think Godzilla would have won but the context is important. 2. MUTO Prime evolved to counter Godzilla: Muto Prime is likely an Alpha Class Titan by herself but the reason why she does so well against Godzilla is because she evolved to counter him. Her sonic roar immediately takes out Godzillas strongest ability. Any non physical feat demonstrated against Godzilla would probably not work at the same capacity against other titans. 3. It has been confirmed Kong wins by the creators: The comments I believe are on twitter/X that state Kong has a higher chance of winning by the creators. Some more speculative takes that aren’t official:Unless stated somewhere I haven’t seen, Muto Primes roar is not stronger than Camazots. The roar was evolved specifically to shatter Godzillas spines through harmonic resonance which has no implied disorientation effects. If the reason why this is assumed is because it disoriented Godzilla you can easily chalk that up to the fact Godzilla had a parts of his spine literally shatter. I think your spine, or parts of it, shattering would cause major pain/disorientation. Not saying it can’t be disorienting but I don’t see why it would be stronger than Camazots screech which likely did evolve to disorient other titans. Also assuming Mutos are like insects with strong exoskeletons but weaker insides a punch or two from Kong could kill the Muto. Best example in the real world would be why we use Kevlar rather than standard steel plates for body armor. A bullet would likely not get past a steel plate but the concussive force of the plate stoping the bullet would cause internal bleeding or even broken bones. Kevlar is preferred because it disperses that force and prevents the bullet from damaging the organs/body. Kongs sheer punches might not be able to break the Mutos armor but the crushing force might be enough to destroy its insides making the armor useless. Godzilla can stand these punches because aside from his thick hide he is insanely muscular. But again I don’t know if the Mutos have an insect like composition so this also speculative. Finally Kong took a full blast from Godzillas Atomic breath while the Muto took a much less condensed Atomic pulse from a slightly younger Godzilla who had his plates shattered and they both seemed to take the same amount of damage from it.
This kong fanboy bro. You managed to type a whole asß paragraph and get it all wrong . And Kong has NEVER took on a full on atomic blast. I swear these kong fans will say anything they want. Yet dump on Godzilla fans for no reason.
@@GhidorahFan64 unless you can source where Mutos roar has a higher disorientation effect than Camazots I’m not wrong. Everything I mention came straight from the novelization/official tweets. Even though Kong didn’t have prolonged exposure to the beam it was still a well charged beam when it hit him. Just cause I back up my claim doesn’t mean I am a fanboy stop glazing.
@@Yolo-wp1oche can’t. I’ve debated him before and he just makes excuses saying “you Kong fans are crazy” he just resorts to calling you names if he gets proven wrong.
@@_ThermoGojiDesignFanaticHim saying “I think I was just joking. I was suprised anyone took something from a commentary so seriously” basically saying he was joking and it’s not canon.
@@Kratoast_god_of_hunger directors gotta realize the weight behind their words they're basically god's will to their movies and with power scaling being a massive part of a kaiju fanbase they gotta be careful lol
@@_ThermoGojiDesignFanatic tbh very true if i was giving my all to try and absolutely destroy someone i don't think i'd take a moment to laugh at them and wait for them to get back on their feet
Also, kong didn’t dislocate his arm on the building, he dislocated his arm when Godzilla spun his whole body around when he grabbed his arm. If you watch the clip you can literally hear as his shoulder cracks out of place before Godzilla throws him
People are too harsh to Kong but it is true Godzilla was holding back until he got axe to the face and goji was half of his kotm power. BTW Kong beast glove is featless but based off what we have scene he should win.
@@Godzillaminusone70 according to leaks, it is not featless. also using common knowledge and logic, the beast glove amps kong's strength, and according to the GvK novel, kong was physically overpowering mechagodzilla, aswell as holding back godzilla in the water where kong was mostly sedated. you could also go by the playmates statement where it describes Kong's beast glove having the impact of a meteor.
In recent months I have seen that many say that Kong beats muto prime only because Arvid Nelson said that "yes he probably beats him", but they do not realize that he said it as a possibility and not something certain. The video analysis of a fight between these two titans was incredible and I agree with your results, I like the way you make these types of videos
What I personally did is taking the words of both Arvid and drew edward Johnson While they had different statements each pointed out that we should take the other’s word over his. So, in my book at least, King Kong will need weapons to stand a better chance due to her offensive capabilities, but he can pull it off
There is novel where in GvK Kong was injected with a special kind of sedation that made him weak against Godzilla and as he fought more he was becoming weaker, and he was able to fight with godzilla for 12 hours, and this is a godzilla that is more powerful than 2014 and kotm. Kong can definitely beat muto prime.
>Sedation made him weak against Godzilla Huh? It just made him groggy and docile, not make Godzilla's attacks crit more against him. Even then, they stopped doping him prior to the Tasman fight. Lastly, the first dose was via inhalation. That's right, Kaiju sized roofie vape. Nitpicks over.
@@RedSunUnderParadise he's literally sedated again for the helicopter ride to hollow earth entry he was even sleeping the whole time the sedation does weaken him as it's designed to stop him from acting up while being transferred it would obviously slow down his movement and make him use less strength full sedation typically last 24 hours so at best since hollow earth the sedation more likely lost effect after his fight with Godzilla and completely lose the effects when Mecha came out And it's still very relevant since Kong was 80% sedated and fend off Godzilla underwater
@@4nero_Dem0n1c Cap, They had stopped applying sedatives before the Tasman fight and only reapplied it after Godzilla spanked him in the sea so the reapplication of the roofies are actually moot. Also, when did it say that the sedatives made kong weaker to Godzilla's attacks? Do those roofies Make Godzilla's attacks deal 90% more of their base damage against kong? No, they just put kong to sleep or make him groggy.
@@skankshunts2156 Godzilla 2014 got saved by humans, Godzilla 2019 ghidorah ran away and even with the added boost of a nuke still lost and needed saving and a power up, 2021 the axe exploded before it connected with his head, Needed saving from mechagodzilla too and not to mention the comics. and Kong only loses to Godzilla, Mecha, Ghidorah, Shimo and maybe skar king he folds all others in a 1v1
@@xeno3332 camazots roar shook skull island and threw all of monarchs equipment into the air and it only disoriented Kong, primes roar only works at a frequency to shatter Godzillas spines and nothing else. the creator of muto prime even stated Kong and camazotz would beat Prime
hi godzilla guy just wanted to say you are a GOAT because you give me so much kaiju information like i didn't know that showa godzilla would lose to shimoura i thought showa would one shot also the thumbnail goes hard keep collection Pokezilla1954 out
@@GojiGuyy Godzilla guy can you make a video on legendary Godzilla was toying with kong because they are the kong stans who say that oh the director said thst he was joking about Godzilla toying with kong even though just because he said I’m joking does not mean the statement is fake and that legendary Godzilla was 1000% toying with kong
If kong can somehow find a way to bypass MUTO primes sonic screech with some sort of 'earplugs' (or just resist the damage) kong can put the work in and beat him up, especially if he has the axe or glove in this battle.
man this most be my fav vid from you. i wanna say something. is just a thought but. if muto prime starts sopersonic roar befor beastglove kong hits her. does thats mean muto prime wins all 3 rounds?
@arvidthetwit also blow to blow, strength to strength, who do you think is stronger? JM or adult Kong? How would you think Kong would do against JM? I remember you said that blunt force trauma affects her armor. 5:56 AM · Jun 15, 2021 1 4 1 Arvid Nelson, thief warrior gladiator king @arvidthetwit · Jun 15, 2021 In my opinion, Kong is a very bad match up for JM - just like you said: raw power, blunt force trauma is his MO. 1 1 6
5:16-About that whole Godzilla toying with Kong thing, it's not true. Adam Wingard said he was joking and that the commentary is a separate thing from the movie. So Godzilla was serious when he stomped Kong out.
@@treeckomain5327that just means that godzilla was actuslly taking seriosly him, he didnt actually hold himself back or smt like that, more like having fun whit the figth, as godzilla always shows in the movied, whit ghidora in his thermo form he was smiling, and also Adamn awalys jokes and does not express what he want to say correctly, the novel of GvsK does fix more the battles, and stated how thigns did REALLY did go.
@@Titanzilla-AKA-Titanus the wrong thign here its that kong in the final moment wasnt supposed to go that bad, lucky for us the novel explained us that in that moment due to some little medicines and tranquilizers that monarch did put on him, started to hyperventilent in the last moments (and also godzilla did a move that did break his arm wich is a plus for the adventage of godzilla).
yeah, in an interview he says that it was a joke and that his commentary is separate from the film and should not be taken seriously. idk why adam thought ppl weren't gonna take it seriously, I mean some godzilla fans were sending death threats and threatening to boycott the movie if godzilla didn't win. 💀
5:15 godzilla wasn't toying with kong. I dont know why people forget that adam wingard literally said that what he said was not to be taken seriously lol
@@CrunchSolosthey gave Kong like sleep drugs or something which made him weaker but in a toho kingdom interview Adam wingard said he wasn't toying around and did have some trouble
@@CrunchSolos yeah but why would he be toying with Kong even after Kong knocked him out underwater. Plus Kong was hitting him a lot in the beginning of round 2 so why would Godzilla be toying with him? Laughing mid battle doesn't mean much cuz you could say Kong was doing the same when he was pounding his chest mid battle and the fact that he let Godzilla get back up both times he knocked him down.
@@gavinkrejci they weren't normal sleep drugs Adam wingard said that long was not at his full power not saying he would beat Godzilla but Godzilla was not toying with him Adam wingard said on toho kingdom interview it was just a joke and not meant to be taken srsly anyways like do Godzilla fam boys really gotta disagree even when there's proof like I am not even saying Kong beats Godzilla here but they still be mad
I just watched the fight between Godzilla and Kong, particularly round 3. Just before Kong gets launched by Godzilla, the way Godzilla pulls his arm, it looks like Godzilla may have pulled out because earlier in the fight, his arm did not look that long 😅 but anyways I think it was a combination of Godzilla pulling Kong's arm out of the socket and Kong crashing into that building. By the way, cool thumbnail. And while I do believe Kong would put up one hell of a fight before going down, I think he would lose unless he came up with one hell of a game to beat the Muto. As for Kong with Infinity Gauntlet, all he needs is snap Muto out of existence, just joking, I think he's got better chances, but I want to wait and see what it does in the movie. Good video. 👍
@@iris4419 Look up “Godzilla vs Kong extended cut explained by Adam wingard” Scroll down to the bottom of the description for the direct source if you don’t want to watch the vidoe
@@iris4419Toho kingdom interview. He said the commentary shoudlnt be taken seriously and isn’t canon. The art book and novel for GvK both confirm it was a serious fight
"The majority of kaiju would easily floor kong" -who? This only applies to ghidorah shimo godzilla and mechagodzilla, also funny how you talk about "without" plot armor as if godzilla would still be alive in EVERY comic and EVERY movie he's been in without plot armor himself like do I need to remind you of what ford did in 2014? How about the orca in aftershock? Mothra and the humans in kotm? The random sea currents and air cave in Dominion? Kong saving godzilla from mechagodzilla twice?
Finally, someone knowws goji was actually toying with kong, the fact that that ssamee goji is able to hit fighter jets going at 1500mph and hes missing a giant 330 feat tall monke running across the city at 200mph with his blast, clearly he was toying😂😂😂 Edit: Kong fans really tryna defend themselves🤣🤣
"Godzilla was toying with kong" -absolutely not they fought for 12 hours and adam wingard been disproved his claims on toho kingdom Wingard: Yeah I mean I think I was just totally just joking I mean I I’m surprised anybody would take something from a commentary really seriously. I mean when you make a movie you’re making a movie and the commentaries like an extra thing and if you have to explain or anything else in a commentary anything… you know it’s just a separate thing it’s not the movie you know and you know that you know yeah I think I remember saying that and just being totally joking because you know it is a very convoluted sort of excuse to go down into Hollow Earth but you know when I say it doesn’t matter I don’t think I’d literally meant it doesn’t matter at the end you know. I mean because truthfully like what does matter to me is that you know that the movie get to all the fun stuff and you know really at the end of the day you know movies have MacGuffins you know these are things that are important to the characters but really aren’t important to the audience and that’s that part of the film is getting sort of the MacGuffin out of the way that’s all it is you know and so once that part has been unlocked and achieved by the characters then the movie isn’t just “okay we’re trying to get to point A to point B”. It becomes now we’re really in the fast track with the really exciting stuff and so yeah. I mean it’s funny, it’s really funny like whenever I did Blair Witch the commentary and there’s a lot of controversy because Simon and I wouldn’t, he’s the writer of that film, we wouldn’t say what the thing was in the woods and we wouldn’t clarify certain mysteries within the movie and that some people are really mad and it’s just like what do you really expect me to you know we didn’t tell you in the movie we’re not gonna tell you in the commentary but you know people wanna be mad at me they can be mad at me you know whatever. It’s like I think the movie delivers on a level that I’m really proud of and you know and there are just you know there’s kind of silly plot contrivances in the film, Godzilla vs. Kong, but the thing is you know we tried everything it wasn’t because out of laziness or something that we just like landed at something it’s like no stone was left unturned I can assure you in terms of developing that film and ultimately where we ended up you know some of it’s a little over complicated in terms of what their journey you know their purpose for it is you know like does it really make sense them uploading the signal up there, sure, maybe you know like enough to give us an excuse to you know have a movie and have fun but ultimately you know you have to pick the route that’s the best for the overall movie and a film like Godzilla vs. Kong you know pacing is so important you know and obviously it doesn’t take precedence over anything but that’s the balance and for me it’s just a matter of trying to make the most efficient version of the film possible and just like every film you know we have like deleted scenes and some of that stuff you know there’s a couple of cool deleted scenes that didn’t make it into the film but there’s nothing that I missed from the movie.
"Godzilla can hit fighter jets going at 1,500" -firstly those jets were flying directly in front of him within hitting distance and they were not going at 1,500 mph they would not fly that low or next to civilians if that was the case, also kong has literally speared flying aircraft with giant trees
This comment being hearted proves godzilla guy's bias he knows damn well adam wingard been took back the claim every comment talks about it and this is widely known information
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Godzilla was not playing with Kong he just got angry. King was not in danger of the warbat killing him. Kong is also not just a giant ape. If u read the kong vs Godzilla novel u would know that.
He was toying with him in their first round like Adam says, took him more serious but still not going all out in the second, then went all out in the third round
@@_ThermoGojiDesignFanatic he was going all out in r2 cause but Kong literally didn't allow him to use anything besides atomic breath, only when he got a proper hold of Kong to dislocate his arm and keep him from dodging could he use his full arsenal
The 20x energy feat for all I know is comming from a toy box,and even if you take it as cannon, it says he can HAVE up to 20x energy, not that he is at full capacity, so this feat is automatically disabled. In addition, I wouldn't trust it all that much as it's still a toy box, but still, with more accurate on screen feats from the tv spots, kong is able to hit and push back the same Godzilla that can casually have kong leaping on his back and just keep on running like nothing happened, so it's not like evolved beats thermo, but yeah the beats glove makes this a pretty even fight, as Kong can hit eay harder BUT prime still has the roar.
It’s not a toy box? It’s literally confirmed to be from the movie. Also why wouldn’t he be at full capacity? Hes building a body to accommodate that much energy so why wouldn’t have it
Although this is a nice well built video, I can’t help but dislike the fact that just because Kong has been seen in action more as well as having movies to go along with his strengths, Prime only has a comic to dictate her attributes. Yes, I know it’s not necessarily your fault, as this is the only media we have on her. However, what I would say is by far, this has to be the most accurate portrayal of how this fight could have gone. Would still love to see MUTO Prime on the big screen one day though. Either way keep up with the good work!
Kong wins honestly, beast glove is quite op. It allowed him to throw hands however temporary with evolved godzilla, which low diffs muto prime. Also, she only did as good against godzilla as she did because she evolved to counteract godzilla.
Overall I don’t think 2021 Kong even if his axe was charged could win. Keep in mind that Muto Prime has a sonic roar that can shatter Gojira dorsal plates, So if Kong gets hit by it, He loses the axe. And since his regen and durability isn’t on par with Godzilla, His eardrums would blow up and his vital organs may go as well. 2024 Kong may stand more of a chance, But since the movie hasn’t come out (and we don’t know what his glove can do) I really have to give this to Prime.
@@Ilovekaijuno he wouldn’t , muto prime just walking on the ground is enough to break and tear apart tectonic plates, her roar shakes the ENTIRE earth . Muto prime probably only used it at the end as a tactic or a last resort if anything else didn’t work, Godzilla probably would have used his atomic breath if she roared . Muto prime is also known for letting Godzilla chase and waste his energy while muto prime would run away and eat nukes . Muto prime is smart .
primes roar works at a certain frequency that's why it can shatter godzilals spines, camazots literally shook skull island and Kong was only disorientated from it, in the end the author of aftershock even stated Kong and Camazotz would beat Prime
Godzilla wasn't toying with Kong hope that's been cleared out by now to toxic Goji Fans , Just deal with it that Godzilla and Kong both faught with all seriousness and yes Godzilla ultimately came up on top
Kong takes strength because he is able to rag a much stronger, heavier godzilla (while literally 88% sedated) than the one muto prime went up against. Plus muto prime had to use hit and run tactics to actually stand a chance, so yes muto prime does beat base kong and axe kong just not “with ease” muto prime wins with high difficulty. And also adam wingard contradicted his own statement by admitting to the fact that he was joking when he said “godzilla was toying with kong” so yes godzilla was indeed taking kong very seriously. And kong dislocated his shoulder mostly because of the force of godzilla’s throw and not the building itself
Are you high or something?😂😂😂 you know the meaning of "ragged" 😂😂 godzilla was literally toying with that dumb 🐒 monkey. Mo key needed human help😂 monkey fanboy
The picture says 20 times more energy. Although I agree with you on the fact that godzilla isn't actually 20 times more powerful. We don't know how much energy that nuke actually gave him in kotm, so 20 times more energy doesn't mean 20 times more powerful
Two factors you didn't consider was if the beast glove is more durable than Gojira plates and the other is one you skimmed over which is weight. I believe that since the BEAST glove is man made then its made of something like steel and Godzilla in KOTM was dropped from about 20k feet seeing as he was above the clouds and didn't shatter a dorsal plate and I don't know about you but if a block of steel was dropped from even half that height it would break, but Prime shattered Godzilla plates that, granted may be more durable, survived a 20k foot drop showing Prime's roar could shatter the BEAST glove and then again he's back to the same Kong that got his ass beat in the first two scenarios. Now weight is another thing to factor in as Kong is 90,000 tons and Prime is 130,000 tons meaning if Kong goes in melee without the BEAST glove being shattered all it takes is for prime to charge him as well and Kong is knocked to the floor, probably tries to punch Prime in the head but doesn't work as Prime's shell is practically invincible, and then Prime shatters the glove and most likely fracturing Kong's arm due to the intensity of the roar then using his claws (Yes MUTO Prime has claws as that's how he gets around under ground) to probably scratch up Kong till he bleeds out or just uses the roar but using all his/her (Idk if MUTO prime is as while they look like a he in the comic they also lay parasitic pair of MUTOs in gojiras like female insects do in real life, from now on I'm just going to call Prime a she) at the top of her lungs or whatever MUTOs have to probably shattered Kong's skull ultimately killing him. So I say Prime wins but that's just my opinion with the information I have available to me.
Who would win? A giant prehistoric parasitic creature that has emp powers, a sonic roar, can mass multiply and sees freaking Godzilla as nothing but a tasty snack Or Monke
The deep blue in the thumbnail and all looks fucking insane. But anyways kong with a charged axe should win but aside from that he has 0 way of damaging prime who can cause earthquakes with her punches and such. I got prime 7-8/10 times personally
@@tobisenpai5953 I didn't say Kong's punch was stronger than Muto Prime's, I just said his punches would rattle her. Being stronger than someone doesn't mean their hits won't do anything.
You might think I'm delusional, but Kong is actually more durable than MUTO Prime. Let me explain. So even though Kong got his fur burnt by a short blast by the atomic breath to the back, he got burnt because he has fur. His skin under it was probably fine. Also, it took two stomps and drilling his foot in twice to actually damage Kong's heart. Muto Prime just took one stomp from a vastly weaker Godzilla and died. Kong is more resilient. We can also see that in GxK Kong took a super hard stomp from Godzilla and it didn't do anything to him. MUTO Prime may be more resistant to heat, but Kong is definitely more durable overall. Also, MUTO Prime needs to be able to hit Kong in the first place, since his agility is insane and he could probably dodge all her attacks. Now, for the Sonic Roar. I also think this wouldn't severely affect Kong, since MUTO Prime's roar is designed ONLY and ONLY to shatter Godzilla's dorsal plates. You may think that her roar would disorient Kong but I highly doubt it since the reason Godzilla was disoriented was obviously because his dorsal plates broke, which would be extremely painful. Arvid Nelson, the AUTHOR of Birth of Kong and Godzilla: Aftershock, has stated that Kong would be a horrible matchup for Muto Prime, and has maintained this. He also more recently said that he favors Camazotz against her too, which Zid also backed up. He literally says over and over again that he wrote Muto Prime to not be that impressive relative to other Titans, but to be specifically made to kill Godzilla. That's her entire gimmick.
@RonaldoxSiu it doesn't matter because my opinions completley changed and I think Kong should win. I forgot how much the Muto's in 2014 nerfed goji so Prime fought a nerfed godzilla which is why she could toss him around so easily
Lately Arvid Nelson (the author) changed his mind and thinks that even with the axe he might pull a win. He can use it mostly as a club to land hard strikes on her instead of cutting, and blunt force trauma affects her armor. All that of course assuming she won’t be using her supersonic screech. Beast glove is still King Kong’s best shot against Muto prime or any other weapon he crafts.
I honestly disagree do to the AP, DC and durability of muti prime because if it can shatter Godzilla’s dorsal plates then it can likely one-shot kong(that’s my opinion only)
This is head cannon for me but I’d think the axe wouldn’t get destroyed by the primes sonic roar the dorsal plate is similar to 2015-2029 Godzilla so I think the axe would withstand the sonic roar maybe more than once
If kong beats godzilla(more powerful version) for a while in gxk with the beast glove, he would certainly beat muto prime who loses to the weaker version of godzilla. And if kong was also with the axe, i think kong with his speed and agility can definitely arrive to muto prime and cut all his tenticles and legs. kong (battle axe and glove) low-mid diff
Muto Prime was made to kill Godzilla which didnt succeed, Kong is already much faster than Godzilla meaning Muto Prime wont be able to keep up with his speed at all, since we are talking abt weight difference.
Camaztoz would actually weight around 30,000 to maybe 40,000 tons since he is bigger than Rodan who's weight is 30,000 tons Edit: The statement of Godzilla toying with Kong was debunked by Adam Wingard in a interview with Toho Kingdom. Plus the novel and the official art book of gvk both have stated how serious Godzilla was in taking down Kong. Also Kong's arm was dislocated by Godzilla before he was thrown into the building
Evolved should win, since he is 20x stronger then the previous goji, so if thermo was the max and he started to have to force out the radiation so he wouldn't Burring goji himself, and Evolved is 20x stronger, then Evolved should take that win.
@GodzillaGuyy taking claims such as "20x" at face value and context is stupid burning is clearly stronger than evolved godzilla by this logic kong skar king shimo etc who are all comparable to evolved godzilla would be able to beat EVERY titan in the mv excluding themselves
@@GojiGuyy I don't see how Evolved would win, his atomic breath wouldn't really do anything to Thermo, and he would die from 1 pulse since Ghidorah who is more resistant to heat than Godzilla only survived 2 pulses.
It was Godzilla tossing Kong by his arm that dislocated it, not the impact on the actual building he got thrown against. You even hear a popping sound when Godzilla pulls him off the ground in his jaws.
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Umm sir how tf are they supposed to get a raise?
What I meant was that the person who draws these thumbnails are doing a great job.
Agreed
Indeed
I though GG drew those.
@@guest9243what they meant is that Godzilla Guy already draws the thumbnails
Thumbnail goes hard. Also this fight seems like it’s going to be insane.
This thumbnail is probably the best Thumbnail EVER. Give the artist a THUMBS UP
5:16 In a more recent interview Adam Wingard confirmed that the statement of "Godzilla toying with Kong" was supposed to be a joke and should not have been taken seriously, also the GvK novelization states Kong was *physically overpowering* Mechagodzilla every time they engaged into combat, and that Godzilla was taking Kong as a threat, one that hadn't bowed to godzilla as king either, hence he went after him.
Also
It’s very clear Kong can affect Godzilla with his strikes, including when he’s under the effects of tranquillisers and this ignores the fact Godzilla is stated to have grown in power since 2014
1) he’s described as looking like he “juiced” when he’s powered up by the Serizawa Nuke
2) the behind the scenes statements of Godzilla being “tougher” and “more powerful and more dangerous then ever before” by the time of GVK
Meaning, Kong went up against a far stronger Goji then Prime did and could be relative to him
The novel is completely different from the move
@@Koda-27-k9b kdm stated the novel is canon to the movie, especially when the novel doesn't contradict the movie heavily, like the g14/ksi novels do
@@Kaiju-bm4ts Kong never physically overpowered Mechagodzilla.
@@Koda-27-k9b I never said he did but that doesn't excuse the novel from being canon
Okay, so some MAJOR corrections here.
1. The building did not dislocate Kong's arm, you could already hear it get pulled out of its socket from Godzilla swinging him around. There are also other more impressive durability feats this video ignored. It took enough energy to light up Las Vegas for a week to restart Kong's heart (which left no burn marks on him). Camazotz's Sonic Scream is powerful enough to shake Skull Island so bad that it causes people and heavy equipment to literally jump up in the air when he uses it to DRILL through the ground from the vortex to the surface. And Kong just eats it. Kong at just 220 feet took the Kraken's electricity and venom pretty easily even in the water. He took energy melee attacks from Mechagodzilla. And we know he takes Shimo's planet freezing Frostbite Blast to the arm in GxK.
2. It took two stomps and drilling his foot in twice to actually damage Kong's heart. Muto Prime just took one stomp from a vastly weaker Godzilla and died. Kong is more resilient.
3. In terms of strength feats, you forgot when Kong held the Kraken (something at least three times his size) over his head, ripped it in half, and threw its body thousands of feet up into the air while beaten and exhausted and only 220 feet. In terms of how much that thing weighed, we don't know, but the tsunami made from its impact made a wave much taller than Kong that completely submerged a huge chunk of the island. Also, a Kong exhausted at 50% was able to wrestle with and knock down a 605,000 ton Mechagodzilla, who was THROWING 99,000 - 164,000 ton Godzilla around like a wet towel. So Kong is undeniably stronger than Muto Prime.
4. Godzilla was never toying with Kong. That statement is blatantly contradicted in the actual movie, Novelization, Art Book, and by Greg Keyes. Adam Wingard has said he was just joking around on the commentary and that he sees it as all something extra from the movie and to not take it seriously. www.tohokingdom.com/blog/interview-adam-wingard-2021-round2/
5. Arvid Nelson, the AUTHOR of Birth of Kong and Godzilla: Aftershock, has stated that Kong would be a horrible matchup for Muto Prime, and has maintained this. He also more recently said that he favors Camazotz against her too, which Zid also backed up. He literally says over and over again that he wrote Muto Prime to not be that impressive relative to other Titans, but to be specifically made to kill Godzilla. That's her entire gimmick.
So no, Kong without any weapons takes this, but you are right about the axe, she'd just shatter that LoL.
Thanks for the link I was looking for the video of him debunking his commentary but could never find it.
4. The commentary isn’t the only instance of wingard saying Godzilla wasn’t going all out on Kong. The directors words would trump the novel the art book and whatever underling works underneath him.
All your statements are very bad you should stop being a Kong fan for a moment and accept some kaijus counter others perfectly.
@@mechaplayz1661 “stop being a kong fan” what a complete joke your reply is
@@Kratoast_god_of_hunger I said a moment if you didn't know what I mean ,it means look at reality here, ear twig
Quick note: it’s been confirmed that Godzilla was actually NOT toying with Kong. uh yeah Adam wiengard confirmed it. Muto prime still beats base form and axe but still.
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Also not to be that guy but I genuinely never got on the top comments thing so uh thanks guys :D
Edit: help this war is insane. Also even if you disagree PLEASE DONT SWEAR
this war is straight up entertainment now. 🍿🍿🍿
What are you talking about, Adam wingard specifically stated that he WAS
@L0rd_skywarp he said that anything said in the director commentary shouldnt be taken seriously and it's not canon to the final film
It's obvious godzilla wasn't toying with kong. He was trying to kill him the whole movie
@L0rd_skywarp The movie scenes clearly show that goji is struggling against kong
Stan XD
Even if he was Godzilla was holding back aswell
Who is making the art? bro cookin’ right now
Link in description!
@@GojiGuyy Do Saitama (anime)vs monster verse (legendary)
Saitama slams
Saitama vs Heisei or comic ones would be fair.
Honestly I personally disagree for three main reasons
1. Kong was weakened when he fought Godzilla: To make it quick the military made a sedative specifically for Kong using his blood that would allow them to transport him which made him weak and sluggish. Sedatives can take take hours to wear off especially if it’s made specifically for you meaning Kong was weakened against Godzilla for both fights. I still think Godzilla would have won but the context is important.
2. MUTO Prime evolved to counter Godzilla: Muto Prime is likely an Alpha Class Titan by herself but the reason why she does so well against Godzilla is because she evolved to counter him. Her sonic roar immediately takes out Godzillas strongest ability. Any non physical feat demonstrated against Godzilla would probably not work at the same capacity against other titans.
3. It has been confirmed Kong wins by the creators: The comments I believe are on twitter/X that state Kong has a higher chance of winning by the creators.
Some more speculative takes that aren’t official:Unless stated somewhere I haven’t seen, Muto Primes roar is not stronger than Camazots. The roar was evolved specifically to shatter Godzillas spines through harmonic resonance which has no implied disorientation effects. If the reason why this is assumed is because it disoriented Godzilla you can easily chalk that up to the fact Godzilla had a parts of his spine literally shatter. I think your spine, or parts of it, shattering would cause major pain/disorientation. Not saying it can’t be disorienting but I don’t see why it would be stronger than Camazots screech which likely did evolve to disorient other titans.
Also assuming Mutos are like insects with strong exoskeletons but weaker insides a punch or two from Kong could kill the Muto. Best example in the real world would be why we use Kevlar rather than standard steel plates for body armor. A bullet would likely not get past a steel plate but the concussive force of the plate stoping the bullet would cause internal bleeding or even broken bones. Kevlar is preferred because it disperses that force and prevents the bullet from damaging the organs/body. Kongs sheer punches might not be able to break the Mutos armor but the crushing force might be enough to destroy its insides making the armor useless. Godzilla can stand these punches because aside from his thick hide he is insanely muscular. But again I don’t know if the Mutos have an insect like composition so this also speculative. Finally Kong took a full blast from Godzillas Atomic breath while the Muto took a much less condensed Atomic pulse from a slightly younger Godzilla who had his plates shattered and they both seemed to take the same amount of damage from it.
This kong fanboy bro. You managed to type a whole asß paragraph and get it all wrong . And Kong has NEVER took on a full on atomic blast. I swear these kong fans will say anything they want. Yet dump on Godzilla fans for no reason.
@@GhidorahFan64 unless you can source where Mutos roar has a higher disorientation effect than Camazots I’m not wrong. Everything I mention came straight from the novelization/official tweets. Even though Kong didn’t have prolonged exposure to the beam it was still a well charged beam when it hit him. Just cause I back up my claim doesn’t mean I am a fanboy stop glazing.
Godzilla fans are super annoying
@@Yolo-wp1oche can’t. I’ve debated him before and he just makes excuses saying “you Kong fans are crazy” he just resorts to calling you names if he gets proven wrong.
You can’t prove those sedatives were significantly effecting him while he fought Godzilla.
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Actually, he wasn't toying with Kong, the guy that said it didn't think that anyone would take that seriously
About the commentary. There is still other instances of him saying Godzilla wasn’t going all out. We see visually portrayed as well
@@_ThermoGojiDesignFanaticHim saying “I think I was just joking. I was suprised anyone took something from a commentary so seriously” basically saying he was joking and it’s not canon.
@@Kratoast_god_of_hunger directors gotta realize the weight behind their words they're basically god's will to their movies and with power scaling being a massive part of a kaiju fanbase they gotta be careful lol
@@_ThermoGojiDesignFanatic tbh very true if i was giving my all to try and absolutely destroy someone i don't think i'd take a moment to laugh at them and wait for them to get back on their feet
This is not a fight this is a execution 🔥🔥🔥
An execution for who?
@@KaijuRaidenthere’s no way you think Kong could execute jinshin mushi 💀
@@KaijuRaiden My guess is kong
@@L0rdskywarp watch the video my guy💀
@@KaijuRaidenmuto prime slams with zero diff
Also, kong didn’t dislocate his arm on the building, he dislocated his arm when Godzilla spun his whole body around when he grabbed his arm. If you watch the clip you can literally hear as his shoulder cracks out of place before Godzilla throws him
Brian duffield and arvid both confirmed that kong beats MUTO prime. Base kong too. MUTO prime is weak to physical attacks. Kong wins either way
@@jraqz1739Stop making up random bu!!$h1t💀💀 that was never confirmed as a matter of fact back up your argument and show proof. Prime Sweeps Kong
@@TitanusGLKong01"prime sweeps kong" -false lmao
@@jraqz1739whatever those guys said make no sense. They clearly don’t know what proper research is.
Godzilla was actually trying the whole time stated by Adam Wingard because he said he was joking and it was not meant to be taken seriously
Plus in the movie Godzilla tries to murder Kong in the first fight so that statement didn't really make sense in the first place.
It wasn't stated by Adam wingard that godzilla wasnt trying but he only took the statement back that he wasn't because of whining kong fans
@@CrunchSolos Doesn't matter, Wingard took it back. End of story. Besides that statement was a load of shit anyway.
People are too harsh to Kong but it is true Godzilla was holding back until he got axe to the face and goji was half of his kotm power. BTW Kong beast glove is featless but based off what we have scene he should win.
@@Godzillaminusone70 according to leaks, it is not featless. also using common knowledge and logic, the beast glove amps kong's strength, and according to the GvK novel, kong was physically overpowering mechagodzilla, aswell as holding back godzilla in the water where kong was mostly sedated. you could also go by the playmates statement where it describes Kong's beast glove having the impact of a meteor.
In recent months I have seen that many say that Kong beats muto prime only because Arvid Nelson said that "yes he probably beats him", but they do not realize that he said it as a possibility and not something certain.
The video analysis of a fight between these two titans was incredible and I agree with your results, I like the way you make these types of videos
What I personally did is taking the words of both Arvid and drew edward Johnson
While they had different statements each pointed out that we should take the other’s word over his. So, in my book at least, King Kong will need weapons to stand a better chance due to her offensive capabilities, but he can pull it off
That thumbnail goes so hard
Ye very nice thumbnail Godzilla guy
Sadly it’s going to be kongs last
@@wrath7646 and first
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@@wrath7646 no.
There is novel where in GvK Kong was injected with a special kind of sedation that made him weak against Godzilla and as he fought more he was becoming weaker, and he was able to fight with godzilla for 12 hours, and this is a godzilla that is more powerful than 2014 and kotm. Kong can definitely beat muto prime.
Kong: kapow!
Muto prime: SCREECH!!!!!!!!!
>Sedation made him weak against Godzilla
Huh? It just made him groggy and docile, not make Godzilla's attacks crit more against him. Even then, they stopped doping him prior to the Tasman fight. Lastly, the first dose was via inhalation. That's right, Kaiju sized roofie vape. Nitpicks over.
@@RedSunUnderParadise he's literally sedated again for the helicopter ride to hollow earth entry he was even sleeping the whole time the sedation does weaken him as it's designed to stop him from acting up while being transferred it would obviously slow down his movement and make him use less strength
full sedation typically last 24 hours so at best since hollow earth the sedation more likely lost effect after his fight with Godzilla and completely lose the effects when Mecha came out
And it's still very relevant since Kong was 80% sedated and fend off Godzilla underwater
@@4nero_Dem0n1c
Cap, They had stopped applying sedatives before the Tasman fight and only reapplied it after Godzilla spanked him in the sea so the reapplication of the roofies are actually moot. Also, when did it say that the sedatives made kong weaker to Godzilla's attacks? Do those roofies Make Godzilla's attacks deal 90% more of their base damage against kong? No, they just put kong to sleep or make him groggy.
@@RedSunUnderParadiseeither way it made Kong not as strong. Fighting while you’re tired would make your body weak. That’s still a huge feat for him.
This shows how powerful the BEAST glove really is
Can’t wait for MUTO Prime fanboys to write an essay on why she “beats” beast glove kong (Beast Glove Kong Slams)
Btw W Thumbnail as always
Bro let's be fr Kong ain't even that strong bro if it wasn't for people he would have died to a warbat muto prime would demolish king kong
she easily disarms kong by emp blasting his beast glove and shattering his axe (and his eardrums)
Wait for these kong fanboys to underestimate primes strength and realize that Godzilla was toying with kong
@@skankshunts2156 Godzilla 2014 got saved by humans, Godzilla 2019 ghidorah ran away and even with the added boost of a nuke still lost and needed saving and a power up, 2021 the axe exploded before it connected with his head, Needed saving from mechagodzilla too and not to mention the comics. and Kong only loses to Godzilla, Mecha, Ghidorah, Shimo and maybe skar king he folds all others in a 1v1
@@xeno3332 camazots roar shook skull island and threw all of monarchs equipment into the air and it only disoriented Kong, primes roar only works at a frequency to shatter Godzillas spines and nothing else. the creator of muto prime even stated Kong and camazotz would beat Prime
thats a W thumbnail.
Can shimo beat the pacific rim?
yes
How about MV Weight Buffed Pacific Rim?
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hi godzilla guy just wanted to say you are a GOAT because you give me so much kaiju information like i didn't know that showa godzilla would lose to shimoura i thought showa would one shot also the thumbnail goes hard keep collection Pokezilla1954 out
Thumbnails and videos awesome other then that Congrats on reaching 50k Subs🎉
Thanks man!
@@GojiGuyy No Problem!
@@GojiGuyy Godzilla guy can you make a video on legendary Godzilla was toying with kong because they are the kong stans who say that oh the director said thst he was joking about Godzilla toying with kong even though just because he said I’m joking does not mean the statement is fake and that legendary Godzilla was 1000% toying with kong
@@GojiGuyyyou should make a video on Godzilla vs Alastor from hazbin hotel as a celebration for 50k subs
@@GojiGuyy You are now at twice that amount of subs but unfortunately...
Can you next do can legendary survive the millennium era?
Beetle with tumors for arms
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Beefy beetle
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Amazing vid bro💯
If kong can somehow find a way to bypass MUTO primes sonic screech with some sort of 'earplugs' (or just resist the damage) kong can put the work in and beat him up, especially if he has the axe or glove in this battle.
He still has to get through prime's concussive blasts from her fists
muto prime's a female. she's just a stronger female muto.
@@Tyranid_Hive_Mind easy. he can dodge them.
@@finleydoyle4913 he can only dodge for so long before it catches up to kong
@@finleydoyle4913
If.
You'll work some amazing man!
Very Informative
Godzilla guy in kaiju cowboys- "Oh that brother goanna be flying in the air."
man this most be my fav vid from you.
i wanna say something. is just a thought but. if muto prime starts sopersonic roar befor beastglove kong hits her. does thats mean muto prime wins all 3 rounds?
Yea prime wins all three with the roar ngl
yup. Godzilla guy was I’d just a kong fanboy therefore kong had to win I assume.
Yeah I think MP can brutally injure Kong(if not kill him) if he manages to catch him off guard
@@ParrotsAccountgoogle it; the author stated kong would win
@arvidthetwit
also blow to blow, strength to strength, who do you think is stronger? JM or adult Kong? How would you think Kong would do against JM? I remember you said that blunt force trauma affects her armor.
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In my opinion, Kong is a very bad match up for JM - just like you said: raw power, blunt force trauma is his MO.
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5:16-About that whole Godzilla toying with Kong thing, it's not true. Adam Wingard said he was joking and that the commentary is a separate thing from the movie. So Godzilla was serious when he stomped Kong out.
I mean he did almost kill him, seems pretty serious to me
@@treeckomain5327that just means that godzilla was actuslly taking seriosly him, he didnt actually hold himself back or smt like that, more like having fun whit the figth, as godzilla always shows in the movied, whit ghidora in his thermo form he was smiling, and also Adamn awalys jokes and does not express what he want to say correctly, the novel of GvsK does fix more the battles, and stated how thigns did REALLY did go.
To be fair it went from a kinda fair fight I’d say like 60-40 then Godzilla got pissed and it went to 100-0 so how wrong was what he said really?
@@Titanzilla-AKA-Titanus the wrong thign here its that kong in the final moment wasnt supposed to go that bad, lucky for us the novel explained us that in that moment due to some little medicines and tranquilizers that monarch did put on him, started to hyperventilent in the last moments (and also godzilla did a move that did break his arm wich is a plus for the adventage of godzilla).
@@Shimo_gfofanape1 and Godzilla just before drilled a hole into the center of the earth… your point is what exactly
nice vid bro.
5:16 didn't that shi get like, proven to be wrong???💀💀💀not saying Kong wins or something i'm just pointing that out
yeah, in an interview he says that it was a joke and that his commentary is separate from the film and should not be taken seriously. idk why adam thought ppl weren't gonna take it seriously, I mean some godzilla fans were sending death threats and threatening to boycott the movie if godzilla didn't win. 💀
@@Ty_x95exactly lol.
Your art is always so cool to look at I love it
5:15 godzilla wasn't toying with kong. I dont know why people forget that adam wingard literally said that what he said was not to be taken seriously lol
Or possibly godzilla guy didn't know I still think godzilla wasnt because he was laughing mid battle
@@CrunchSolosthey gave Kong like sleep drugs or something which made him weaker but in a toho kingdom interview Adam wingard said he wasn't toying around and did have some trouble
@@CrunchSolos yeah but why would he be toying with Kong even after Kong knocked him out underwater. Plus Kong was hitting him a lot in the beginning of round 2 so why would Godzilla be toying with him? Laughing mid battle doesn't mean much cuz you could say Kong was doing the same when he was pounding his chest mid battle and the fact that he let Godzilla get back up both times he knocked him down.
@@gavinkrejci they weren't normal sleep drugs Adam wingard said that long was not at his full power not saying he would beat Godzilla but Godzilla was not toying with him Adam wingard said on toho kingdom interview it was just a joke and not meant to be taken srsly anyways like do Godzilla fam boys really gotta disagree even when there's proof like I am not even saying Kong beats Godzilla here but they still be mad
@@antermemesgodzilla was sleep deprived and tired as well.
In 51 minutes, you've already gained 5k subscribers towards the 100k goal, I think you've got this no problem lol
I can already tell this video is going to be a masterpiece
I just watched the fight between Godzilla and Kong, particularly round 3. Just before Kong gets launched by Godzilla, the way Godzilla pulls his arm, it looks like Godzilla may have pulled out because earlier in the fight, his arm did not look that long 😅 but anyways I think it was a combination of Godzilla pulling Kong's arm out of the socket and Kong crashing into that building.
By the way, cool thumbnail.
And while I do believe Kong would put up one hell of a fight before going down, I think he would lose unless he came up with one hell of a game to beat the Muto. As for Kong with Infinity Gauntlet, all he needs is snap Muto out of existence, just joking, I think he's got better chances, but I want to wait and see what it does in the movie.
Good video. 👍
Adam wingard said he wasn’t toying. Research could be a good thing you know
Ok, where and when did he say that?
@@iris4419 Look up “Godzilla vs Kong extended cut explained by Adam wingard” Scroll down to the bottom of the description for the direct source if you don’t want to watch the vidoe
@@iris4419Toho kingdom interview. He said the commentary shoudlnt be taken seriously and isn’t canon. The art book and novel for GvK both confirm it was a serious fight
@@jraqz1739I knew it
Even then, axe kong and base kong gets stomped so ig it doesn’t matter, also try to phrase your comments in a way that isn’t plain rude.
Love your vids🥰🥰
Beast Glove finally gave my boy a W 😭
Arvid Nelson is writter godzilla afthershock confirms Kong beats muto prime
Tiamat in godzilla dominion killer muto prime
Can you do Jason versus the man in the suit
Jason Voorhees was able to handle the explosion of a whole gas station and he was able to lift a 10 tons industrial water tank.
i have a question for you how do you make your thumbnails because they look amazing.
I have 2 artist! The one that made this one is linked in the description!
@@GojiGuyy thank you
Moment of silence for matpat
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The Lore Keeper ending, Horror ending, and Insanity ending were my favorite of the six.
Nah bro, who got you smiling like that 0:30.
Always makes me laugh seeing that idk why 🤣
Without serious plot armor the majority of kaiju should easily floor kong.
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@@GojiGuyy"fr" I mean godzilla IS in your name I shouldn't expect less or more
"The majority of kaiju would easily floor kong" -who? This only applies to ghidorah shimo godzilla and mechagodzilla, also funny how you talk about "without" plot armor as if godzilla would still be alive in EVERY comic and EVERY movie he's been in without plot armor himself like do I need to remind you of what ford did in 2014? How about the orca in aftershock? Mothra and the humans in kotm? The random sea currents and air cave in Dominion? Kong saving godzilla from mechagodzilla twice?
without plot armour and asspull power ups Godzilla would be fodder
@@thouken5777Godzilla would kill mecha is he didn’t fight King Kong
Adam Wingard said that the statement of Godzilla toying with Kong was just a joke.
It's still obvious that once Kong made him really angry, Godzilla beat him easily
You 🤡
@@Kermitttt-z2t No need to use that emoji. It's just a statement about a movie, give an actual argument or don't comment at all
There’s other instances of him saying Godzilla wasn’t going all out on him
Finally, someone knowws goji was actually toying with kong, the fact that that ssamee goji is able to hit fighter jets going at 1500mph and hes missing a giant 330 feat tall monke running across the city at 200mph with his blast, clearly he was toying😂😂😂
Edit: Kong fans really tryna defend themselves🤣🤣
"Godzilla was toying with kong" -absolutely not they fought for 12 hours and adam wingard been disproved his claims on toho kingdom
Wingard: Yeah I mean I think I was just totally just joking I mean I I’m surprised anybody would take something from a commentary really seriously. I mean when you make a movie you’re making a movie and the commentaries like an extra thing and if you have to explain or anything else in a commentary anything… you know it’s just a separate thing it’s not the movie you know and you know that you know yeah I think I remember saying that and just being totally joking because you know it is a very convoluted sort of excuse to go down into Hollow Earth but you know when I say it doesn’t matter I don’t think I’d literally meant it doesn’t matter at the end you know. I mean because truthfully like what does matter to me is that you know that the movie get to all the fun stuff and you know really at the end of the day you know movies have MacGuffins you know these are things that are important to the characters but really aren’t important to the audience and that’s that part of the film is getting sort of the MacGuffin out of the way that’s all it is you know and so once that part has been unlocked and achieved by the characters then the movie isn’t just “okay we’re trying to get to point A to point B”. It becomes now we’re really in the fast track with the really exciting stuff and so yeah. I mean it’s funny, it’s really funny like whenever I did Blair Witch the commentary and there’s a lot of controversy because Simon and I wouldn’t, he’s the writer of that film, we wouldn’t say what the thing was in the woods and we wouldn’t clarify certain mysteries within the movie and that some people are really mad and it’s just like what do you really expect me to you know we didn’t tell you in the movie we’re not gonna tell you in the commentary but you know people wanna be mad at me they can be mad at me you know whatever. It’s like I think the movie delivers on a level that I’m really proud of and you know and there are just you know there’s kind of silly plot contrivances in the film, Godzilla vs. Kong, but the thing is you know we tried everything it wasn’t because out of laziness or something that we just like landed at something it’s like no stone was left unturned I can assure you in terms of developing that film and ultimately where we ended up you know some of it’s a little over complicated in terms of what their journey you know their purpose for it is you know like does it really make sense them uploading the signal up there, sure, maybe you know like enough to give us an excuse to you know have a movie and have fun but ultimately you know you have to pick the route that’s the best for the overall movie and a film like Godzilla vs. Kong you know pacing is so important you know and obviously it doesn’t take precedence over anything but that’s the balance and for me it’s just a matter of trying to make the most efficient version of the film possible and just like every film you know we have like deleted scenes and some of that stuff you know there’s a couple of cool deleted scenes that didn’t make it into the film but there’s nothing that I missed from the movie.
"Godzilla can hit fighter jets going at 1,500" -firstly those jets were flying directly in front of him within hitting distance and they were not going at 1,500 mph they would not fly that low or next to civilians if that was the case, also kong has literally speared flying aircraft with giant trees
This comment being hearted proves godzilla guy's bias he knows damn well adam wingard been took back the claim every comment talks about it and this is widely known information
@@thouken5777 😂🤣🤣 Your a funny guy!
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Congrats on fifty thousand, I have a cool video idea, jet jaguar showa vs jet jaguar singular point or minus one godzillasaurus vs the godzillasaurus in Godzilla vs king gidara from the heisei era
Godzilla was not playing with Kong he just got angry. King was not in danger of the warbat killing him. Kong is also not just a giant ape. If u read the kong vs Godzilla novel u would know that.
He was toying with him in their first round like Adam says, took him more serious but still not going all out in the second, then went all out in the third round
@@_ThermoGojiDesignFanatic he was going all out in r2 cause but Kong literally didn't allow him to use anything besides atomic breath, only when he got a proper hold of Kong to dislocate his arm and keep him from dodging could he use his full arsenal
I have and the warbats and most other titans coukd kill him. To me anyhoo. Correct me if ya want. I love learning and being contridicted :)
The 20x energy feat for all I know is comming from a toy box,and even if you take it as cannon, it says he can HAVE up to 20x energy, not that he is at full capacity, so this feat is automatically disabled. In addition, I wouldn't trust it all that much as it's still a toy box, but still, with more accurate on screen feats from the tv spots, kong is able to hit and push back the same Godzilla that can casually have kong leaping on his back and just keep on running like nothing happened, so it's not like evolved beats thermo, but yeah the beats glove makes this a pretty even fight, as Kong can hit eay harder BUT prime still has the roar.
It’s not a toy box? It’s literally confirmed to be from the movie. Also why wouldn’t he be at full capacity? Hes building a body to accommodate that much energy so why wouldn’t have it
This isn’t a fight this is a execution
Yeah, kong low diffs, especially GxK kong
I said it before the video came out:p
Thumbnails deserve to be in museums
Although this is a nice well built video, I can’t help but dislike the fact that just because Kong has been seen in action more as well as having movies to go along with his strengths, Prime only has a comic to dictate her attributes. Yes, I know it’s not necessarily your fault, as this is the only media we have on her. However, what I would say is by far, this has to be the most accurate portrayal of how this fight could have gone. Would still love to see MUTO Prime on the big screen one day though. Either way keep up with the good work!
Kong wins honestly, beast glove is quite op. It allowed him to throw hands however temporary with evolved godzilla, which low diffs muto prime. Also, she only did as good against godzilla as she did because she evolved to counteract godzilla.
Overall I don’t think 2021 Kong even if his axe was charged could win. Keep in mind that Muto Prime has a sonic roar that can shatter Gojira dorsal plates, So if Kong gets hit by it, He loses the axe. And since his regen and durability isn’t on par with Godzilla, His eardrums would blow up and his vital organs may go as well. 2024 Kong may stand more of a chance, But since the movie hasn’t come out (and we don’t know what his glove can do) I really have to give this to Prime.
The Muto Prime only used the sonic roar once in the final battle when backed into a corner, so if Kong went for the kill quickly he'd win.
@@Ilovekaijuno he wouldn’t , muto prime just walking on the ground is enough to break and tear apart tectonic plates, her roar shakes the ENTIRE earth . Muto prime probably only used it at the end as a tactic or a last resort if anything else didn’t work, Godzilla probably would have used his atomic breath if she roared . Muto prime is also known for letting Godzilla chase and waste his energy while muto prime would run away and eat nukes . Muto prime is smart .
primes roar works at a certain frequency that's why it can shatter godzilals spines, camazots literally shook skull island and Kong was only disorientated from it, in the end the author of aftershock even stated Kong and Camazotz would beat Prime
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Pls do Kiryu from Tokyo S.O.S vs Godzilla from Godzilla vs Ebirah
Godzilla wasn't toying with Kong hope that's been cleared out by now to toxic Goji Fans , Just deal with it that Godzilla and Kong both faught with all seriousness and yes Godzilla ultimately came up on top
If you actually watch the films and pay attention, it's easy to see that godzilla was definitely half assing against kong
The creator of the comic Godzilla Aftershock confirmed that Kong 2021 has almost the same level of strength and durability as the muto prime
Kong takes strength because he is able to rag a much stronger, heavier godzilla (while literally 88% sedated) than the one muto prime went up against. Plus muto prime had to use hit and run tactics to actually stand a chance, so yes muto prime does beat base kong and axe kong just not “with ease” muto prime wins with high difficulty. And also adam wingard contradicted his own statement by admitting to the fact that he was joking when he said “godzilla was toying with kong” so yes godzilla was indeed taking kong very seriously. And kong dislocated his shoulder mostly because of the force of godzilla’s throw and not the building itself
Are you high or something?😂😂😂 you know the meaning of "ragged" 😂😂 godzilla was literally toying with that dumb 🐒 monkey. Mo key needed human help😂 monkey fanboy
Lol kong would even get killed by female and male muto😂😊
@sastaassh1112 nope kong beats male muto and female muto easily
I just wanna mention, evolved is not 20X of burning. He is 2X Boston Goji before going burning. Burning is stronger than Evolved.
Didnt see the prime muto but this intrigues me.
Godzilla dislocated Kongs arm. Not the building
"Godzilla was toying with Kong"
Also Godzilla:
Spams his mouth Kamehameha the whole fight
Doesn’t prove anything sadly
Kong isnt 90k tons and godzilla wasnt toying with kong
its such a shame that it was literally confirmed but okay
Nah kong genuinely is 90,000 tonnes
@@jraqz1739dude then how did godzilla throw kong with his BARE JAWS.
@@vortex366 the strong ass motherfucker was mad. Really fucking mad. Treat it as a spartan rage of some sort
@@bishopsylvester8120Then it was literally unconfirmed, Adam Wingard said that the commentary isn't canon to the final film.
Is this handrawn or computer drawn?
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@@Monciac033 np
he was not toying with Kong you people need to stop saying that
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And you need to stop making up false information
@iris4419 Have you seen the movie? Goji visibly struggled against kong
@@iris4419 your just a Godzilla fan boy
7:00 20% increase doesn't mean that it increases 20 times, that would be a 2000% Increase. it means that Godzilla got 1/5 Stronger
The picture says 20 times more energy. Although I agree with you on the fact that godzilla isn't actually 20 times more powerful. We don't know how much energy that nuke actually gave him in kotm, so 20 times more energy doesn't mean 20 times more powerful
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Two factors you didn't consider was if the beast glove is more durable than Gojira plates and the other is one you skimmed over which is weight. I believe that since the BEAST glove is man made then its made of something like steel and Godzilla in KOTM was dropped from about 20k feet seeing as he was above the clouds and didn't shatter a dorsal plate and I don't know about you but if a block of steel was dropped from even half that height it would break, but Prime shattered Godzilla plates that, granted may be more durable, survived a 20k foot drop showing Prime's roar could shatter the BEAST glove and then again he's back to the same Kong that got his ass beat in the first two scenarios. Now weight is another thing to factor in as Kong is 90,000 tons and Prime is 130,000 tons meaning if Kong goes in melee without the BEAST glove being shattered all it takes is for prime to charge him as well and Kong is knocked to the floor, probably tries to punch Prime in the head but doesn't work as Prime's shell is practically invincible, and then Prime shatters the glove and most likely fracturing Kong's arm due to the intensity of the roar then using his claws (Yes MUTO Prime has claws as that's how he gets around under ground) to probably scratch up Kong till he bleeds out or just uses the roar but using all his/her (Idk if MUTO prime is as while they look like a he in the comic they also lay parasitic pair of MUTOs in gojiras like female insects do in real life, from now on I'm just going to call Prime a she) at the top of her lungs or whatever MUTOs have to probably shattered Kong's skull ultimately killing him. So I say Prime wins but that's just my opinion with the information I have available to me.
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Who would win?
A giant prehistoric parasitic creature that has emp powers, a sonic roar, can mass multiply and sees freaking Godzilla as nothing but a tasty snack
Or
Monke
This is a tough question, but I think I gotta go with Monke.
(This is a joke don’t take it seriously)
A wise choice, my friend
(Don’t worry, I like making jokes too)
The monke
The deep blue in the thumbnail and all looks fucking insane. But anyways kong with a charged axe should win but aside from that he has 0 way of damaging prime who can cause earthquakes with her punches and such. I got prime 7-8/10 times personally
Kong's punches were able to stun Godzilla of all people so if he hit the Muto Prime full force a couple times she'd be all kinds of discombobulated.
And Muto Prime punching the ground was able to send godzilla flying through the air so that isnt the best argument
@@tobisenpai5953 I didn't say Kong's punch was stronger than Muto Prime's, I just said his punches would rattle her. Being stronger than someone doesn't mean their hits won't do anything.
You might think I'm delusional, but Kong is actually more durable than MUTO Prime. Let me explain. So even though Kong got his fur burnt by a short blast by the atomic breath to the back, he got burnt because he has fur. His skin under it was probably fine. Also, it took two stomps and drilling his foot in twice to actually damage Kong's heart. Muto Prime just took one stomp from a vastly weaker Godzilla and died. Kong is more resilient. We can also see that in GxK Kong took a super hard stomp from Godzilla and it didn't do anything to him. MUTO Prime may be more resistant to heat, but Kong is definitely more durable overall. Also, MUTO Prime needs to be able to hit Kong in the first place, since his agility is insane and he could probably dodge all her attacks. Now, for the Sonic Roar. I also think this wouldn't severely affect Kong, since MUTO Prime's roar is designed ONLY and ONLY to shatter Godzilla's dorsal plates. You may think that her roar would disorient Kong but I highly doubt it since the reason Godzilla was disoriented was obviously because his dorsal plates broke, which would be extremely painful. Arvid Nelson, the AUTHOR of Birth of Kong and Godzilla: Aftershock, has stated that Kong would be a horrible matchup for Muto Prime, and has maintained this. He also more recently said that he favors Camazotz against her too, which Zid also backed up. He literally says over and over again that he wrote Muto Prime to not be that impressive relative to other Titans, but to be specifically made to kill Godzilla. That's her entire gimmick.
@RonaldoxSiu it doesn't matter because my opinions completley changed and I think Kong should win. I forgot how much the Muto's in 2014 nerfed goji so Prime fought a nerfed godzilla which is why she could toss him around so easily
Lately Arvid Nelson (the author) changed his mind and thinks that even with the axe he might pull a win. He can use it mostly as a club to land hard strikes on her instead of cutting, and blunt force trauma affects her armor.
All that of course assuming she won’t be using her supersonic screech. Beast glove is still King Kong’s best shot against Muto prime or any other weapon he crafts.
To those who are saying that the axe will slice prime's head off no it wouldn't it was break in half easily
Muto prime's armor is really tough and she will punch kong into next week
Godzilla guy is the savior of the goji community
I honestly disagree do to the AP, DC and durability of muti prime because if it can shatter Godzilla’s dorsal plates then it can likely one-shot kong(that’s my opinion only)
This is head cannon for me but I’d think the axe wouldn’t get destroyed by the primes sonic roar the dorsal plate is similar to 2015-2029 Godzilla so I think the axe would withstand the sonic roar maybe more than once
If kong beats godzilla(more powerful version) for a while in gxk with the beast glove, he would certainly beat muto prime who loses to the weaker version of godzilla. And if kong was also with the axe, i think kong with his speed and agility can definitely arrive to muto prime and cut all his tenticles and legs.
kong (battle axe and glove) low-mid diff
the latest kong probably got inspired by mike tyson vs jake paul and start his boxing training thats why he is punching like prime tyson😂
Would you be willing to do a battle between the two big Godzilla killers? Destroyah vs Red?
Wanted to ask in the future could we possibly see destoroyah vs shimo? (As a video not in the monster verse)
Man , you're channel has grown since the ku days . Should eventually start doing stuff outside of kaiju to grow your community.
Muto Prime was made to kill Godzilla which didnt succeed, Kong is already much faster than Godzilla meaning Muto Prime wont be able to keep up with his speed at all, since we are talking abt weight difference.
That evolved godzilla 20x energy is fan made I think man
Doesn't e.m.p effect the glow?
Camaztoz would actually weight around 30,000 to maybe 40,000 tons since he is bigger than Rodan who's weight is 30,000 tons
Edit: The statement of Godzilla toying with Kong was debunked by Adam Wingard in a interview with Toho Kingdom. Plus the novel and the official art book of gvk both have stated how serious Godzilla was in taking down Kong. Also Kong's arm was dislocated by Godzilla before he was thrown into the building
Muto's punch against goji was said to be 12 magnitude earthquake.
We shpuld also mention that muto prime is confirmed to have wings behind all of that armor giving it some extra edge in combat
id say kong beats muto prime hard-ext dif, just like godzilla. the thing that makes kong strong is his intellect and versatility. great vid
In Skull Island series, Kong tanked an entire hill.
how would u do a monsterverse Zone fighter or Jet jaguar, given we have both Mechagodzilla and the Titan Hunter
Video idea: Apex vs obsidian fury from pacific rim the black and pacific rim uprising.
What is the Music of you’re outro?
Could you do Godzilla evolved vs thermonuclear godzilla?
Evolved should win, since he is 20x stronger then the previous goji, so if thermo was the max and he started to have to force out the radiation so he wouldn't Burring goji himself, and Evolved is 20x stronger, then Evolved should take that win.
@GodzillaGuyy taking claims such as "20x" at face value and context is stupid burning is clearly stronger than evolved godzilla by this logic kong skar king shimo etc who are all comparable to evolved godzilla would be able to beat EVERY titan in the mv excluding themselves
@@GojiGuyy I don't see how Evolved would win, his atomic breath wouldn't really do anything to Thermo, and he would die from 1 pulse since Ghidorah who is more resistant to heat than Godzilla only survived 2 pulses.
People need to quit saying Godzilla was toying with Kong. It a Disrespect to Godzilla
Проблема с перчаткой в том, что она наносит процентов на 20 больше урона чем обычный удар и будет бесполезна
I suggested it to fda and u came out with it lol
It was Godzilla tossing Kong by his arm that dislocated it, not the impact on the actual building he got thrown against. You even hear a popping sound when Godzilla pulls him off the ground in his jaws.
Hey here is an idea what if you verse swap showa Godzilla with Pacific rim or hesi Godzilla with Pacific rim.
I think that would be a really cool video