Wow ! This is a dream come true. Having just a blow expression control alone was magic, and now having a vibrato, growl and flutter (or any other parameter, but those three were most important for me) controlled with just mouth and head movements is really a dream come true.
Thanks a lot to make us discover such a Breath Controller. I have an EWI 4000S, perfect for a mono sound but for accordion, bandoneon, for example, with EWI you have to record 2 tracks (one for left hand and the second for the right hand). With this system, I can imagine we have a very good expression and we can play on a keyboard the 2 hands at the same time (as on a piano). You convinced me to buy one.
I use JamOrigin MidiGuitar2 and my TeControl BBC2 together. So helpfull as I can keep both hands on my guitar and control other parameters with my head. I am sooo grateful for both products!
Hello Breezy!¡! How i can to set JamOrigin MidiGuitar2 and my TEControl 2 in presonus studio one ,or another daw? Do you know any video where i can to watch?
I hastily ordered the original USB BC...then I saw your video! So, I hastily emailed teccontrol and asked to upgrade to the BCC2. Your video sold me on it, cost be damned!
Best Breath control Ever. Its totally great. Iam using it with guitar midi except the midi keyboard and it sounds really great. The realism is awesome!!! I think that everyone should use it. Thanks TEControl for this "magic" technology !!!
Hi, I'm a guitarplayer too and using a guitar synth (Axon) for everything else but guitarsounds. How do you hook up this device to your guitarsynth device or keyboard, do you need a interface?
THANK YOU for the very clear and concise explanation. I purchased this a while ago. just couldn't get much useful information from it. It kind of overwhelmed me and I gave up.. Recently I purchased the SWAM bundle (which is amazing). Then I knew I had to learn and make use of the BBC2 controller to get anything of value from the Audio Modeling SWAM instruments. I had purchased the SEABOARD RISE. And while it is outstanding it just feels awkward to play (yes you really have to work hard with this for great results). In the end, the BBC2 is very useful, cause you don't need to carry the extra keyboard (RISE).. and both of your hands are free to play, use modwheel, pitchbend. etc. Your video gives a very clear overview. The very important thing to understand for new users is that the TeController app that comes with the BBC2, is what gives you preciseness in your articulations.. I realized setting the range (1 - 127) or each controller is vital.. Also, you can assign any of the four CC data streams to the controller most comfortable for you..
Very impressive, AND now I'm gonna have to shell out $$$ for audio modeling.. But the variety and realism are levels above anything else.. No more endless, entering control CC's into the midi file.
I have a re.corder. it has breath and vibrato but for me it takes too much effort to blow. But its midi over bluetooth and wireless with only a little latency
Thanks! for the great review. I have a BBC2 on the way and hope I'll be able to figure out how to set it up. I have an Akai MPK249 controller and hope to be able to control SWAM flutes and cello with it and the BBC2. Great playing btw.
Hi Yannick - I wonder if you can share what sample libraries you use that have patches well suited to the parameters you're playing with. Did you have to spend the time mapping the CC's to those paramaters (such as growl, vibrato, fluttertongue etc.) On the other hand is it easy to choose which CC's the BBC2 spits out (no pun intended!)? Or does it output fixed CC numbers per action? Thanks!
Thank you Yannick: On the strength of your video, I bought the BBC2 controller.. I'm attempting to use it with Audio Modeling SWAM engine strings. Could you possibly make a video showing you setting up a couple of options to set up for use with the Strings (the 30 MIDI CC Mapping Options, is pretty overwhelming at first. If it wasn't for your video, I would have assumed my BBC2 unit was defective, it seemed to act so wildly and non-controllable. However like life itself, I'm learning subtly is the answer in.
Thank you for your video! every needed! I woudl ike to ask you if can be used as simple as connect it directly with the piano that has usb? or it requires use of computer and other sofware? I would like to try it with a casio, but not sure if it is allow me that. Thank you in advanced.
Great demo. Got my last night. One question. What is this rotating thing next to the mouthpiece that lets the air out? Can I regulate the pressure I blow, but then I loose the volume. Or it should be always close? Thanks!
Thank you! This is to set up how much breath you want to use in order to send the signal. What you describe sounds like you make it to hard to blow. Hence you'd have to blow much harder to achieve the desired volume.
Interesting work. I can't help wondering, though, if it wouldn't make more sense to have the tilt controller operated by your free hand. (Or maybe even use a separate joystick!) -- Ian Fritz (building and using wind controllers since 1974.)
I prefer the head movement personally. After you get used to it, you can't live without it. If you'd need another controller operated by your hand, it would be kind of 'back to square one'. I think the developers idea is to let you control as much as possible without using your hands. I prefer it that way too. I like to have both hands free to focus on playing. Cheers
I use JamOrigin MidiGuitar2 and my TeControl together. So helpful l as I can keep both hands on my guitar and control other parameters with my head. I am sooo grateful for both products!
nice video man. Thanks! You went over all the features.. and then showed them while performing ;) . I reckon i'm gonna get me one of these. Are you using Sample Modeling..for all your sounds ? I've got Vienna Instruments.. but it is an old library.. and not very thorough on expressions&articulations. You reckon i should add to Vienna.. or go with other VSTs ? Thanks again.
probably a silly question. I just picked up the Trombone 3 instrument from samplemodeling because I wanted a nice sounding horn section. Unfortunately I've never played a brass or wind instrument, but I'm wondering if either the breath controller or the breath and bite 2 (bbc2) might be something I'd get value out of. If so, given my experience, would you suggest the simple breath controller or the bbc2? thanks! beautiful playing by the way.
No silly question at all! I'd get one for sure if you want to create good brass parts. It's a bit hard for me to suggest a BBC or BBC2. I for one wouldn't want to work without the features from the BBC2 (i.e. head movement capturing). It's just more intuitive and natural to be able to control stuff like vibrato and growl etc. with your head than with a knob... Thanks!
Good evening! Congratulations! You are very good! I have a breath controller, but I can't get it to work. How can I play East West instruments in Logic Pro X with the Breath Controller? Thanks so much.
Hi Luk I'm not sure if EW supports breath controller input. I don't know the inner workings of EW as I don't use those libraries but try to look for CC reassignement and assign the CC expressions of the BC to the desired attributes within EW.
Fantastic ! I am planning to buy, but cannot decide between the simple Breath controller vs Breath and Bite controller. Bite controller is more expensive. Do you think it is neccessary ? I cannot play any wind instrument if that matters :) Thanks
That's difficult to say Greg. Personally I'd go for the breath and bite controller. The more functions you can control the more realistic your virtual Instrument will sound... Hope this helps a bit. Greetings :)
Have you had any issue with durability (with the bite function in particular)? I have had several TEC BBC2's bite function give out after weeks of sustained use. I am not sure if I've just been unlucky or if this is a more fundamental design issue. Thanks!
Hi Jamal, all is going great, thanks! I don't know if there's a retailer in the US but you can get it shipped from the company without any problems. They're tremendously nice folks over at Tecontrol! Best wishes
Just bought a bbc2 and working out the settings within the utility for use in East West orchestral sample library as well as Omnisphere. Can I ask which midi cc you assign to the breath, bite, nod and tilt parameters please? Presumeably different instruments will have certain parameters you can control. Thanks
hi and thanks for the review..i just received bbc2 tecontrol and it was mentioned that it can work with korg kronos directly which i also have and i cant find any videos or help to figure it out ....i tried with no luck and i d really appreciate any tips about this topic or any vids u know about ...it d really mean much to me...thx
:D Thank you very much! I'm very careful with guitars - I often use the Orange Tree Sample library or real guitars, cause the digital guitars are still quite "stiff" I find but maybe I have not spent enough time researching so far.
Whether This Is Just Plug And Play Kind Of Device For Any Keyboard Workstation Or Do I Need Any Special Sound Pack Or Vsti Kind Of Thing To Use These Expressions?
Halloechen Herr Zwanzighaeuser... :) (Sorry about that!) - I bought this controller, but I don't know how to connect it to my Tyros3. I guess, it has to be via a PC and a special App. I have none of them. How to get there a less expensive way? Thank you for your help.
Hi Yannick, What sort of software (ie instruments) are you using here? I'm assuming its modelling rather than sample based? Can you do another video showing how (hopefully) easy it is to assign which articulations to which of the BBC2's data streams?
Despite not being Yannick himself, I can tell you that the instruments he's using here are from a company called Sample Modeling. The trombone is called The Trombone, and the clarinet is from their woodwind package. From what I understand, they use a combination of samples recorded in an anechoic chamber, and modeling via a proprietary engine. They have a bunch of trumpets, all sorts of trombones, French horns, the double reeds, clarinets, flutes & piccolos, the whole range of saxes...and now solo strings that are just insane. And they all sound convincingly real, to the point of fooling actual music people if you're good at programming them. I swear by them. I've used them for jazz/funk stuff and orchestral, and they work for whatever. PS: Ever wondered what a cactus sounds like when its speaking in hushed tones?
Thanks for the reply WC, much appreciated. I shall be checking out Sample Modelling. I've just bought a Seaboard Rise 49, so Im hoping the same packages will work with that. Cheers :-)
Oh man, I want a Seaboard Rise so bad. I quietly freaked out a little when they first came out and I saw demo videos...sliding between chords fluidly and such. Makes me weep. I'm seriously jealous and hope you can get a lot out of it!
Am hoping so - Im also well video'd out, I think I've seen every one on TH-cam at least twice. Have you seen Marco Parisi doing Purple Rain? - pretty awesome. It may take a while to get that proficient!
Thanks, I now know what a synth at that level sounds like - but it still has 5% of natural variation - including that it's obviously not being recorded via air medium. Use it sparingly or get the wind artist.
I think no one would ever claim this could replace the actual instruments but used correctly and with performed with care it can achieve the effect wanted from the instrument...
Hi Thomas, thank you! I couldn't think of a way it would work, unless the device you're referring to has a USB port. In fact it could work if you control your hardware through a computer and hook up the BC to the computer. You then assign the CC expressions accordingly so it controls the hardware as well. Sorry for making it sound so complicated but does it help?
Hi Yannick, thanks fpr your answer. Yes, the brandnew Yamaha Montage has an usb-port. I wonder if you need a special kind of samples that will work together with the controller....
No, inhaling doesn't work. Yes, you need to take breaks. That's why I use it only for brass, woodwind etc. where it would require you to do the same anyway
Darn, do you know of a breath controller that reads inhales and exhales the same? Perhaps a BBC3 will have this feature plus the ability to assign different cc's to inhale and exhale. Is the head tilt only one axis, no XY?
Also wondering what you do when you want it to stop sending tilt data like when you're recording automation and you don't want it to overwrite once you nailed it.
Just got one. In 10 minutes there are already teeth marks on the plastic. Any recommendation? I can't find good settings to get good response from the bite without really clamping down.
For clarification, the maximum setting at linear and it flies off the chart with a small clamp in the middle of the mouthpiece. If I bite at the comfortable part where the teeth meet the lip on the mouthpiece, it can't get there at all and I can't set the bend enough to get there either.
For now Ive put some electrical tape around the mouth piece which seems to help a touch, at least while I get used to it. This was a very expensive piece of plastic so I don't want to break it. Oh also, how do you clean this. The manual says the internals are protected from humidity, but bacteria could still reside in there. Is it safe then to fill it with hydrogen peroxide and let it evaporate?
Hi Yannick, I'm impressed with the BBC 2; I've had mine for one year but when I tilt my head the effect you show on this video does not work for me and I feel so frustrated. Would you please give me any input; perhaps I'm doing something wrong. Greetings from Miami, FL.
Hi Franz, probably the cc command from the tilt movement is not assigned to the proper effect you want to control. That's the only thing I can think of. Try this: Start the tecontrol program which you use to configure your device, the the movement and what the editor if anything moves.
Will this work with a Roland ax synth? It only has type b usb when I use it as a controller. I plan to use an adaptor for tecontrol to plug it in my synth. Will it work? I am planningg to buy one but I am not sure if it will work.
I still recommend it, yes. I still use the BBC2 all the time and it's still the best device for authentic and natural sounding brass and woodwind instruments.
@@amalgami Not at all. You cannot sustain some effects long enough with your breath. If you have a 30 second melody and control the vibrato for instance with your breath, you can forget about that. If you use the tilt function etc. it might work but I don't see the benefit of that over the mod wheel...
Hey, I see that this connects to a computer using a usb cable; do you happen to know of a usb-in bluetooth transmitters that you can plug this into so that you're not tethered to the computer?
So... I just ordered and got one, and I'm dissapointed. The attached USB cable, which you can't replace, is as flimsy and thin as a thread. It's also too short. I think it's not OK at all to ask for more than 300 euro (including tax and shipping) and then send something that is so easy to break. It comes in a silly envelope, inside is a little plastic bag. There's no guarantee declaration, not even a manual, or a card with a link to a manual. It feels like the worst quality I ever laid my hands on, only the price is very luxurious. It's more expensive than the 88 key SL88 keyboard that I use. That has a metal casing, you can drop all the 21 kilo's of it if you want and it will probably still work. But the Tecontrol BBC2: one little snug of your head too many and it will break. One time accidental sitting on the cable will break it, it will fold (and break) easily. I'll be surprised if it lasts for more than a year, provided I could use it. But I can't. Because you have a problem if your computer is not directly under your midikeyboard: as the cable is only 1.5 meters. As my head is almost 1.5 meters above the floor, I can only use it if I put my computer under my keyboard, but of course my legs are already there. People who'd like to play while standing up will have even a bigger problem. But since my rig is on the other side of my studiodesk, I will have to choose also: use the Tecontrol so I have sound, or use the keyboard and have notes, but not both at the same time. I think this is ridiculous.
It came in a flimsy envelope which I sliced open cutting through the delicate wires. Since it is packed into this terrible envelope who would know the wire was right there? Even if It had been intact it would probably be broken after a few nights of use. Too delicate. Hundreds of dollars wasted.
Yes and Tom was very gracious. But, I ripped it apart further in may attempt to put the wires together. It's my own fault, I should have cut just the corner or something, but I was excited to get it in the mail and wanted to spend my long weekend playing with it. I still suggest that the device has a few things that could be improved. I don't buy microphones, keyboards and rack devices that have hard-wired cables. Such cables are the first things to get ruined when musicians set up and tear down their equipment. So I mentioned that it would greatly improve the device to have a midi port on the box instead of a hard wired USB cable.
Good to hear you've had pleasant experiences with them as well. They're an amazing bunch and trying hard to make the best product available. I was really surprised after getting the first BBC, the second one was released already shortly thereafter and even with a proper mouthpiece that wouldn't wear off as fast as the first gen one, so they really make great improvements and fast at that. That being said, of course the frustration is understandable. This fortunately never happened to me but I see it could have. Hope you'll still get some good experiences with the BBC, cause it's hell of a device.
You a re mixing up two things. If you want a detachable cable, then you should ask for a USB port, so you can easily plug in a new USB cable if it breaks. A MIDI port is a very different animal, and of limited use for TEC BC2 which needs to communicate with the computer beyond the limits of MIDI for programming purposes. The idea of being able to replace the cabling is a good one.
How can a manufacturer and reviewer, who both apparently are not woodwind players talk about what is: more natural, cool or good? The reviewer here goes on as though he is acquainted with reeds or woodwinds when this video, demonstrates he knows little.
I've never stated anywhere that I'm familiar with woodwind instruments. Although fyi, I used to play the recorder and baritone horn. But that's not even important. The perks mentioned in the video are related to a comparison with other libraries and means of playing, which don't allow you to be as expressive (less and static cc commands) as opposed to this. Thanks for your feedback.
Wow ! This is a dream come true. Having just a blow expression control alone was magic, and now having a vibrato, growl and flutter (or any other parameter, but those three were most important for me) controlled with just mouth and head movements is really a dream come true.
Absolutely and then some! I couldn't work without it anymore
Sounds awesome! But thank God nobody sees you in the studio working with this :D
That's why god invented the curtains :D Thank you!
An excellent description of the benefits of the TEC BC2.
Thanks
Thank you Dan!
@@DangerConGameHello, where can I purchase Tecontrol BBC2?
Now I am REALLY sold on the BBC2! Been saving up for it but I had no idea about the CC Head movements! Thats game changing!
+VGSoundtrackGuy It's a whole new world - I highly endorse this device!
Exactly....game changing!
Bro. . .if this video didnt have any sound, I would think I was watching "one flew over the cookoo's nest" part 2. Well done.
Thank god to whomever invented sound then
Just stumbled on this great video after searching for more info on the BC2, thank you Yannick!
My pleasure - thank you Peter! :)
Thanks a lot to make us discover such a Breath Controller. I have an EWI 4000S, perfect for a mono sound but for accordion, bandoneon, for example, with EWI you have to record 2 tracks (one for left hand and the second for the right hand). With this system, I can imagine we have a very good expression and we can play on a keyboard the 2 hands at the same time (as on a piano). You convinced me to buy one.
My pleasure Xavier!
You made my day. Got to get one.
I use JamOrigin MidiGuitar2 and my TeControl BBC2 together. So helpfull as I can keep both hands on my guitar and control other parameters with my head. I am sooo grateful for both products!
Cool setup! It's indeed a great time for making music. As much as I love old analog processing and gear, those elements I wouldn't want to miss...
Hello Breezy!¡! How i can to set JamOrigin MidiGuitar2 and my TEControl 2 in presonus studio one ,or another daw? Do you know any video where i can to watch?
Dude! (as we say here in Cailf.) -- really awesome. The section around 7:00 truly awesome.
+Christopher Simmons Cheers Christopher! This thing is truly awesome. It's impressive where this whole technology is going...
I hastily ordered the original USB BC...then I saw your video! So, I hastily emailed teccontrol and asked to upgrade to the BCC2. Your video sold me on it, cost be damned!
Cool! Glad I could help you sort this out. I hope you'll be happy with it!
Best Breath control Ever. Its totally great. Iam using it with guitar midi except the midi keyboard and it sounds really great. The realism is awesome!!! I think that everyone should use it. Thanks TEControl for this "magic" technology !!!
Yes, it's been a complete game changer for me and hopefully many other fellow composers. It's one of the best things in digital music technology
Hi, I'm a guitarplayer too and using a guitar synth (Axon) for everything else but guitarsounds. How do you hook up this device to your guitarsynth device or keyboard, do you need a interface?
THANK YOU for the very clear and concise explanation. I purchased this a while ago. just couldn't get much useful information from it. It kind of overwhelmed me and I gave up.. Recently I purchased the SWAM bundle (which is amazing). Then I knew I had to learn and make use of the BBC2 controller to get anything of value from the Audio Modeling SWAM instruments.
I had purchased the SEABOARD RISE. And while it is outstanding it just feels awkward to play (yes you really have to work hard with this for great results). In the end, the BBC2 is very useful, cause you don't need to carry the extra keyboard (RISE).. and both of your hands are free to play, use modwheel, pitchbend. etc.
Your video gives a very clear overview. The very important thing to understand for new users is that the TeController app that comes with the BBC2, is what gives you preciseness in your articulations.. I realized setting the range (1 - 127) or each controller is vital.. Also, you can assign any of the four CC data streams to the controller most comfortable for you..
Very impressive, AND now I'm gonna have to shell out $$$ for audio modeling.. But the variety and realism are levels above anything else.. No more endless, entering control CC's into the midi file.
Oh my, don't remind me of these days... Painful memories...
Now pair it with the leap motion and you have pure music making magic on your hands!
I'm still amazed that no one has attached this to a Midi Melodica - seems like a perfect combination!
I have a re.corder. it has breath and vibrato but for me it takes too much effort to blow. But its midi over bluetooth and wireless with only a little latency
Ooh where do I find that😊
Thanks! for the great review. I have a BBC2 on the way and hope I'll be able to figure out how to set it up. I have an Akai MPK249 controller and hope to be able to control SWAM flutes and cello with it and the BBC2. Great playing btw.
Hi Yannick - I wonder if you can share what sample libraries you use that have patches well suited to the parameters you're playing with. Did you have to spend the time mapping the CC's to those paramaters (such as growl, vibrato, fluttertongue etc.) On the other hand is it easy to choose which CC's the BBC2 spits out (no pun intended!)? Or does it output fixed CC numbers per action? Thanks!
This is awesome..
It is!
Great playing!
Why thank you!
Thank you Yannick: On the strength of your video, I bought the BBC2 controller.. I'm attempting to use it with Audio Modeling SWAM engine strings. Could you possibly make a video showing you setting up a couple of options to set up for use with the Strings (the 30 MIDI CC Mapping Options, is pretty overwhelming at first. If it wasn't for your video, I would have assumed my BBC2 unit was defective, it seemed to act so wildly and non-controllable. However like life itself, I'm learning subtly is the answer in.
very good
Amazing!
Thanks for this, dude. I mean it.
Got mine today!
Thank you for your video! every needed! I woudl ike to ask you if can be used as simple as connect it directly with the piano that has usb? or it requires use of computer and other sofware? I would like to try it with a casio, but not sure if it is allow me that. Thank you in advanced.
Thank you for this great video !
+JudgeFredd Thanks! It's my pleasure.
Great demo. Got my last night. One question. What is this rotating thing next to the mouthpiece that lets the air out? Can I regulate the pressure I blow, but then I loose the volume. Or it should be always close? Thanks!
Thank you! This is to set up how much breath you want to use in order to send the signal. What you describe sounds like you make it to hard to blow. Hence you'd have to blow much harder to achieve the desired volume.
I’m way late to the party. That vibrato with the clarinet was smooth as butter.
Interesting work. I can't help wondering, though, if it wouldn't make more sense to have the tilt controller operated by your free hand. (Or maybe even use a separate joystick!) -- Ian Fritz (building and using wind controllers since 1974.)
I prefer the head movement personally.
After you get used to it, you can't live without it. If you'd need another controller operated by your hand, it would be kind of 'back to square one'.
I think the developers idea is to let you control as much as possible without using your hands. I prefer it that way too. I like to have both hands free to focus on playing.
Cheers
I use JamOrigin MidiGuitar2 and my TeControl together. So helpful l as I can keep both hands on my guitar and control other parameters with my head. I am sooo grateful for both products!
So amazing, to use this device, a computer must be used or it can be connected directly to the keyboard (Tyros4), greetings
nice video man. Thanks!
You went over all the features.. and then showed them while performing ;) .
I reckon i'm gonna get me one of these.
Are you using Sample Modeling..for all your sounds ?
I've got Vienna Instruments.. but it is an old library.. and not very thorough on expressions&articulations.
You reckon i should add to Vienna.. or go with other VSTs ?
Thanks again.
Thanks a lot!
I use different libraries intertwined. My go-to choices are sample modeling combined with wivibrass and cinebrass.
Best wishes
That's Awesome....where to buy it in the United States?
great, thanks
probably a silly question. I just picked up the Trombone 3 instrument from samplemodeling because I wanted a nice sounding horn section. Unfortunately I've never played a brass or wind instrument, but I'm wondering if either the breath controller or the breath and bite 2 (bbc2) might be something I'd get value out of. If so, given my experience, would you suggest the simple breath controller or the bbc2?
thanks!
beautiful playing by the way.
No silly question at all! I'd get one for sure if you want to create good brass parts. It's a bit hard for me to suggest a BBC or BBC2. I for one wouldn't want to work without the features from the BBC2 (i.e. head movement capturing). It's just more intuitive and natural to be able to control stuff like vibrato and growl etc. with your head than with a knob...
Thanks!
Amazing! Which libraries are you using for your VSTs? They sound very good
In these videos Samplemodeling.
@@DangerConGame is it trombone or trumpet?
@@miketadeu7976 Trombone
I look forward to taking my live performance to another level of impressiveness with the head-nodding and tilting😂
Oh you won't regret it!
Good evening! Congratulations! You are very good! I have a breath controller, but I can't get it to work. How can I play East West instruments in Logic Pro X with the Breath Controller? Thanks so much.
Hi Luk
I'm not sure if EW supports breath controller input. I don't know the inner workings of EW as I don't use those libraries but try to look for CC reassignement and assign the CC expressions of the BC to the desired attributes within EW.
Fantastic ! I am planning to buy, but cannot decide between the simple Breath controller vs Breath and Bite controller. Bite controller is more expensive. Do you think it is neccessary ? I cannot play any wind instrument if that matters :) Thanks
That's difficult to say Greg. Personally I'd go for the breath and bite controller. The more functions you can control the more realistic your virtual Instrument will sound... Hope this helps a bit. Greetings :)
Have you had any issue with durability (with the bite function in particular)? I have had several TEC BBC2's bite function give out after weeks of sustained use. I am not sure if I've just been unlucky or if this is a more fundamental design issue. Thanks!
Very cool!! What VSTs do you use for the brass/woodwinds stuff?
Those particular ones are from Samplemodeling
Hi Yannick...how are you?
Do they sell the controller in the US, or do I have to get it straight from the company? Thanks in advance.
Hi Jamal, all is going great, thanks!
I don't know if there's a retailer in the US but you can get it shipped from the company without any problems. They're tremendously nice folks over at Tecontrol!
Best wishes
Much appreciated.
Very interesting tool! Which Virtual Instrument do you use? THX
unbelievable!
Your video is very informative...
Can this breath controller compatible for any midi keyboard ?
I don't know about that. Best to my knowledge it needs to have a computer though, since it's connected via USB. No matter the keyboard.
Thank you for the video! Would you prefer to control a live keyboard solo with BBC2 or Roli seaboard?
Thank you! I've never used the seaboard so I'm inclined to say the BBC2 :)
Oh man this os fantástico
Just bought a bbc2 and working out the settings within the utility for use in East West orchestral sample library as well as Omnisphere. Can I ask which midi cc you assign to the breath, bite, nod and tilt parameters please? Presumeably different instruments will have certain parameters you can control. Thanks
Really cool! They should add another parameter to be controlled by pushing your tounge to the controller!
can i use this controller with my fantom o6 directly without computer use for live programmes
hi and thanks for the review..i just received bbc2 tecontrol and it was mentioned that it can work with korg kronos directly which i also have and i cant find any videos or help to figure it out ....i tried with no luck and i d really appreciate any tips about this topic or any vids u know about ...it d really mean much to me...thx
No idea about the Kronos, sorry
i just got mine thanks to your video, so thank you for it
can you tell me with which vst you use it ?
Thanks Again
Good choice!
I use the BBC2 mostly with Sample Modeling products and Wallander.
this is great, but do you know any foot pedal that can do almost the same? something like the touche expressive, but with the foot? Thanks
No, I wouldn't know such a pedal. I can't even imagine how you could put that amount of expressivity in foot movement.
ALL HAIL THE KEYBOARD/SYNTHESIZER MASTER RACE!!! guitars you're next
:D Thank you very much! I'm very careful with guitars - I often use the Orange Tree Sample library or real guitars, cause the digital guitars are still quite "stiff" I find but maybe I have not spent enough time researching so far.
Hi Yannick do you think INTEGRA 7 would work with this kind of breath controller that you are using?
Yes… www.patchmanmusic.com/rolandIntegra7.html
Whether This Is Just Plug And Play Kind Of Device For Any Keyboard Workstation Or Do I Need Any Special Sound Pack Or Vsti Kind Of Thing To Use These Expressions?
Halloechen Herr Zwanzighaeuser... :) (Sorry about that!) - I bought this controller, but I don't know how to connect it to my Tyros3. I guess, it has to be via a PC and a special App. I have none of them. How to get there a less expensive way? Thank you for your help.
Hi Yannick,
What sort of software (ie instruments) are you using here? I'm assuming its modelling rather than sample based? Can you do another video showing how (hopefully) easy it is to assign which articulations to which of the BBC2's data streams?
Despite not being Yannick himself, I can tell you that the instruments he's using here are from a company called Sample Modeling. The trombone is called The Trombone, and the clarinet is from their woodwind package. From what I understand, they use a combination of samples recorded in an anechoic chamber, and modeling via a proprietary engine. They have a bunch of trumpets, all sorts of trombones, French horns, the double reeds, clarinets, flutes & piccolos, the whole range of saxes...and now solo strings that are just insane. And they all sound convincingly real, to the point of fooling actual music people if you're good at programming them. I swear by them. I've used them for jazz/funk stuff and orchestral, and they work for whatever.
PS: Ever wondered what a cactus sounds like when its speaking in hushed tones?
Thanks for the reply WC, much appreciated. I shall be checking out Sample Modelling. I've just bought a Seaboard Rise 49, so Im hoping the same packages will work with that. Cheers :-)
Oh man, I want a Seaboard Rise so bad. I quietly freaked out a little when they first came out and I saw demo videos...sliding between chords fluidly and such. Makes me weep. I'm seriously jealous and hope you can get a lot out of it!
Am hoping so - Im also well video'd out, I think I've seen every one on TH-cam at least twice. Have you seen Marco Parisi doing Purple Rain? - pretty awesome. It may take a while to get that proficient!
Does it work with synthetic sounds too? Like for example, Synth Solo patches
It surely does.
Thanks, I now know what a synth at that level sounds like - but it still has 5% of natural variation - including that it's obviously not being recorded via air medium. Use it sparingly or get the wind artist.
I think no one would ever claim this could replace the actual instruments but used correctly and with performed with care it can achieve the effect wanted from the instrument...
Hi, that´ s great. Does it work with a Hardware Synth like Yamaha Montage for example?
Hi Thomas, thank you!
I couldn't think of a way it would work, unless the device you're referring to has a USB port. In fact it could work if you control your hardware through a computer and hook up the BC to the computer. You then assign the CC expressions accordingly so it controls the hardware as well.
Sorry for making it sound so complicated but does it help?
Hi Yannick, thanks fpr your answer. Yes, the brandnew Yamaha Montage has an usb-port. I wonder if you need a special kind of samples that will work together with the controller....
Hi Thomas, I'm not familiar with that device. Although a Usb port makes it sound destined to do that.
Does inhaling through it do anything, like how a harmonica works? This makes more sense to me so you don't have to take pauses for breaths constantly.
No, inhaling doesn't work. Yes, you need to take breaks. That's why I use it only for brass, woodwind etc. where it would require you to do the same anyway
Darn, do you know of a breath controller that reads inhales and exhales the same? Perhaps a BBC3 will have this feature plus the ability to assign different cc's to inhale and exhale. Is the head tilt only one axis, no XY?
Also wondering what you do when you want it to stop sending tilt data like when you're recording automation and you don't want it to overwrite once you nailed it.
That's a damn good question.
Just got one. In 10 minutes there are already teeth marks on the plastic. Any recommendation? I can't find good settings to get good response from the bite without really clamping down.
For clarification, the maximum setting at linear and it flies off the chart with a small clamp in the middle of the mouthpiece. If I bite at the comfortable part where the teeth meet the lip on the mouthpiece, it can't get there at all and I can't set the bend enough to get there either.
For now Ive put some electrical tape around the mouth piece which seems to help a touch, at least while I get used to it. This was a very expensive piece of plastic so I don't want to break it.
Oh also, how do you clean this. The manual says the internals are protected from humidity, but bacteria could still reside in there. Is it safe then to fill it with hydrogen peroxide and let it evaporate?
would I be able to map the bite censor to a kick drum patch via the usb midi connection? and also to a sustain pedal function?
No idea
Hi Yannick,
I'm impressed with the BBC 2; I've had mine for one year but when I tilt my head the effect you show on this video does not work for me and I feel so frustrated. Would you please give me any input; perhaps I'm doing something wrong. Greetings from Miami, FL.
Hi Franz, probably the cc command from the tilt movement is not assigned to the proper effect you want to control. That's the only thing I can think of.
Try this: Start the tecontrol program which you use to configure your device, the the movement and what the editor if anything moves.
What software instruments would you suggest with using BBC2?
Will this work with a Roland ax synth? It only has type b usb when I use it as a controller. I plan to use an adaptor for tecontrol to plug it in my synth. Will it work? I am planningg to buy one but I am not sure if it will work.
I have no idea if that would work, sorry.
Can I use this on Motif ES with PLG150-VL, instead of Yamaha BC3?
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i am watching this video after 7 years of you uploading it. Any advice, if one should still get it, since i am looking to buy one, any tips? thanks
I still recommend it, yes. I still use the BBC2 all the time and it's still the best device for authentic and natural sounding brass and woodwind instruments.
@@DangerConGame alright, thanks a lot.
do you think this has advantage for strings too, for vibrato, expression etc over mod wheel?
@@amalgami Not at all. You cannot sustain some effects long enough with your breath. If you have a 30 second melody and control the vibrato for instance with your breath, you can forget about that. If you use the tilt function etc. it might work but I don't see the benefit of that over the mod wheel...
@@DangerConGame got it. thanks a lot, this helps.
I am thinking about buying used breath controller. Is it hygienicly safe to use it because many people used it before?
I don't think it should be a concern. Just clean the mouthpiece thoroughly and you should be good to go.
Yannick Zenhäusern To clean it with water or?
Also a bit of soap or something...
Thank you so much!
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But theese articulations with the head should be supported by plugins, or?
Yes, some do. You can assign the articulations to the CC expressions you want.
Hey, I see that this connects to a computer using a usb cable; do you happen to know of a usb-in bluetooth transmitters that you can plug this into so that you're not tethered to the computer?
Sorry, I cannot help you with this one. But I'm almost certain such a device exists somewhere...
Not Bluetooth perse, but you could get a wireless USB hub like USB2Air.
Be careful with Bluetooth as it will induce a latency that will slow the responsiveness of your controller.
Can't for the life of me get this to produce any sound with ableton, any tips?
Sorry, as I don't use ableton I cannot help you.
TEControl support is not very good at all. Is there anyone out there that can assist with this controller.
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Am I the only one that keeps thinking of a wookie when he tilts his head back?
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So... I just ordered and got one, and I'm dissapointed. The attached USB cable, which you can't replace, is as flimsy and thin as a thread. It's also too short.
I think it's not OK at all to ask for more than 300 euro (including tax and shipping) and then send something that is so easy to break. It comes in a silly envelope, inside is a little plastic bag. There's no guarantee declaration, not even a manual, or a card with a link to a manual. It feels like the worst quality I ever laid my hands on, only the price is very luxurious. It's more expensive than the 88 key SL88 keyboard that I use. That has a metal casing, you can drop all the 21 kilo's of it if you want and it will probably still work. But the Tecontrol BBC2: one little snug of your head too many and it will break. One time accidental sitting on the cable will break it, it will fold (and break) easily. I'll be surprised if it lasts for more than a year, provided I could use it.
But I can't. Because you have a problem if your computer is not directly under your midikeyboard: as the cable is only 1.5 meters.
As my head is almost 1.5 meters above the floor, I can only use it if I put my computer under my keyboard, but of course my legs are already there. People who'd like to play while standing up will have even a bigger problem. But since my rig is on the other side of my studiodesk, I will have to choose also: use the Tecontrol so I have sound, or use the keyboard and have notes, but not both at the same time.
I think this is ridiculous.
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+MaxOrbit I don't get it...
Er fragt, ist Deine Mantel auch konfuriert für MIDI zu schicken? 8-)
What is the library ?
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Now cut back on these special effects by 90% and it will sound more realistic.
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Looks great but am I going to have a heart attack using it?
Hahaha, depends on your overall condition...
every video on youtube is about what it does... no video on how to setup this thing...
any neck problems yet? lool
I can manage, thanks for your concern ;)
It came in a flimsy envelope which I sliced open cutting through the delicate wires. Since it is packed into this terrible envelope who would know the wire was right there? Even if It had been intact it would probably be broken after a few nights of use. Too delicate. Hundreds of dollars wasted.
That's unfortunate indeed. Have you contacted Tecontrol? They're very customer friendly to my experience.
Yes and Tom was very gracious. But, I ripped it apart further in may attempt to put the wires together. It's my own fault, I should have cut just the corner or something, but I was excited to get it in the mail and wanted to spend my long weekend playing with it. I still suggest that the device has a few things that could be improved. I don't buy microphones, keyboards and rack devices that have hard-wired cables. Such cables are the first things to get ruined when musicians set up and tear down their equipment. So I mentioned that it would greatly improve the device to have a midi port on the box instead of a hard wired USB cable.
Good to hear you've had pleasant experiences with them as well. They're an amazing bunch and trying hard to make the best product available. I was really surprised after getting the first BBC, the second one was released already shortly thereafter and even with a proper mouthpiece that wouldn't wear off as fast as the first gen one, so they really make great improvements and fast at that.
That being said, of course the frustration is understandable. This fortunately never happened to me but I see it could have.
Hope you'll still get some good experiences with the BBC, cause it's hell of a device.
You a re mixing up two things. If you want a detachable cable, then you should ask for a USB port, so you can easily plug in a new USB cable if it breaks.
A MIDI port is a very different animal, and of limited use for TEC BC2 which needs to communicate with the computer beyond the limits of MIDI for programming purposes.
The idea of being able to replace the cabling is a good one.
A great piece of kit, but vastly overpriced. And it doesn’t even come in a box it came in a plastic bag .
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How can a manufacturer and reviewer, who both apparently are not woodwind players talk about what is: more natural, cool or good? The reviewer here goes on as though he is acquainted with reeds or woodwinds when this video, demonstrates he knows little.
I've never stated anywhere that I'm familiar with woodwind instruments. Although fyi, I used to play the recorder and baritone horn. But that's not even important. The perks mentioned in the video are related to a comparison with other libraries and means of playing, which don't allow you to be as expressive (less and static cc commands) as opposed to this.
Thanks for your feedback.
sounds great but you look ridiculous !! And why would you want to struggle to breath and get neck cramp.
I've played this for many years and have no injuries. Besides, who cares how it looks playing when the result is good?
@@DangerConGame amen