FWD doesn't powerslide. Powersliding is using the accelerator to kick out the rear wheels by sending too much power to them so they lose grip. That technique can only be done by RWD and AWD vehicles.
Call it how you want to but to me the thing that makes that the difference between a proper drift and this is, like it is said in the video: "You can't build momentum. All you can do is spend it"
When I want to drift my fwd car I tend to just let the car oversteer a little bit, then, when in the middle section of the curve the rear tires start to whistle I immediatly full countersteer, tap handbrake and give throttle and then countersteer again. I Think that if it works on a 69hp 2004 toyota yaris, it can work everywhere
Ehh i wouldn't be so quick to think low power economy cars are so bad. Often times those are the best ones for having fun and they handle great. Power has little to do with sliding, only maintaining one.
I drift fwd all the time, I’d say its easier to avoid spinning out and maintain control bc you have power to the front wheels but definitely still takes plenty of skill to drift fwd properly 👍🏼
I have an fwd "drifting" video on my channel if anyone is interested. I took it quite easy while filming that video, because I hit a snow bank pretty hard a few days earlier when I filmed that video :D I went a bit too hard in a bank rear first, thus the car straightened and BAM
I learned how to drift my Focus back in the day when there was snow and ice. Had to learn to control the car in those conditions, which had the side effect of having to learn to control oversteer. It's funny, everyone gets so stressed out about driving in snow and ice, it's like my favorite thing in the world.
I used to drift on a downhill course back in the days with my moms 01 Renault Laguna mk2. That thing would slide the rear around quite a bit without the need of the handbrake. And you do have to brake in corners at high speeds to get that rear sliding (40+mph). And if you are gentle enough with the steering and gas pedal at the exit you can exit the drift just as quickly as you entered it.
its like a fast and funny toy but you know if you break that toy isnt that expensive to repair as a big v8 block of big race car, thats why people still loving hondas fwd or any fwd car for do funny and stupid things, because fwd is happinness when you're bored lmao (and they are cheap) (and good) (and cheap)
Used to drift a front wheel without touching the hand break before approaching the turn point at a speed of 30-40km I downshift to the 1st gear, while still holding the clutch hit the gas to a high RPM (4) let the clutch, keep the gas & turn the wheel!
@@Antonio-li5vp To still have high RPM at the time of letting clutch go, so you have the power neccesary to stay in drift? Not pro's opinion, just guessing
I recommend drifting in winter, when theres snow, so if u crash to snow it wont damage ur car as much as in summertime if crashing to a tree or something
I do something similar in my car, but I use the tires to drag it, and no handbrake. I just abuse the slip angle for slides and correcting my car thru turns. Car I have is really easy to abuse Physics tho lmao. I feelt like it was hacking for the longest time, but it would appear some real G's here have been having a good time for a while lmao. Love the vid.
@@Difixed bro, I love the car lmao.i just have to figure out something for its diff iasue lmao. Did you see the Ridge Chaser vid, where he used an sl2 to Toge? I was like "WHAAAAAAAT?!"
Not the same as RWD for sure but thats pretty impressive. I can drift FWD on gravel using front breaks and trnsfering weight but i can't hold it for that long. I used to have a 700kg 3 cylinder swift i could flick around roundabouts and tighter turns through weight transfer but again i could not hold it for long. It was all in the light weight the turn in around sharp turns was not comparable to any other car i have driven.
Used to take my old Lucerne to my local mall and rip donuts all the time. Friends didn’t believe me until I took them with. Just gotta tap the gas and maintain your speed the minute you don’t that’s when you lose control. Like trying to write with your left hand just because you think it’s impossible doesn’t mean it isn’t with practice 🤙
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I thought i can't drift with my Alto, but i saw one in your video and believe it is possible
From what i can see (correct me if im wrong), front wheel drive is inertia drift and not power drift which you can easily do on underpowered rwd cars while on downhill curves
Well, I drifted by mistake once in my dads 1600kg station wagon while going 100kmh on an highway exit. Quite scary but the most fun thing ive ever done. Tip of the day: dont drive on bald winter tires when the road is wet.
I do it in the mountains without the handbrake. Just a quick flick of the steering wheel and I have my little van sideways at 80kms on a mountain edge. The throttle gets you out of it
There are some misconceptions in this video. FF cars are unlikely to oversteer because the car is being pulled rather than pushed not because there is more weight in the front. In fact, having more weight in the front makes it more difficult to whip the tail out and why drift trucks add weight to the rear. Having power sent to the front means you can spin out the front tires, breaking traction and understeering. This is why rwd cars are easier to drift. It's easier to spin out the tires that have power. More weight over the front or rear means more traction in that area, but remember you can break traction by spinning out the wheels.
Yo Drift trays are usefull to drift in FWD 1#get drift trays 2# put the drift trays under the rear tyres 3#pull the activate the handbrake so the drift trays won't fall off 4#full throttle 5# keep it in counter steering then done
Learned drifting from a D1 driver from Team Orange in Japan. The first thing they teach is using hand brake technique. Hand braking is the most original drifting technique.
Do I have to prepare the car first right? Going with high revs or using hand brake could damage the engine/brakes/clutch/transmission? Or you can drift any car as long as it has enough power to drift? I always wondered that. Nice explanation!
it's all about weight and momentum management. you need to build the momentum up and then use the weight of the car to slide with either a throttle lift, scandinavian flick, or the handbrake. also high revs wont do anything but burn fuel faster when you keep it under the redline.
there's a stellar video by conorsev on the 3 main methods of fwd "drifting." more than any HP number, the key is understanding the weight shift. I've got a 150hp 2018 5spd stock Jetta, and I use just handbrake n brake weight shifting cause I can't go fast enough safely on my back roads to use let off oversteer. the video really breaks down the methods far better than I can articulate lol
@@aayushbagul3702 thank you! I have a 91 Mazda 323f, it has 88hp. I was wondering how the car would handle at drifting but I've never done that so that tips would help.
@@MattDols the dude in the red EG6 in this video said that wider front tires in the front helped, and smaller tires in the rear helped. That's a tip i'd look into if possible.
The best way I've figured out it basically q clutch kick, idk if I'm doing right, but kind of like launching? But while I'm already driving, I use ebrake but only for the rain tbh
I kind of drift by weight shifting during winter. Then it really doesn't matter what the car is, although 4WD is the easy mode for that kind of drifting. Still, in my opinion handbraking is kind of lame.
The secret for FWD is flinging your wrist opposite before turn in heel-toe downshift with a very soft front end with a really stiff rear end + good sticky tires to keep pulling you through. But don't drift a FWD please, You are just going to be replacing rear brakes and flattened out rear tires at twice the rate a RWD car would with no cool points gained.
This is cool and fun, we used to do this back in high school with beater FWD cars before we moved to RWD cars, but man people have blurred the definition of "drifting" by saying every slide is a drift. Too many people are calling "powersliding", "drifting", these days. "Drifting" is not just any old sliding around, a general slide in any car is called a "powerslide". A "Drift" is a controlled sideways burnout while the car is moving forward, only RWD can really do this. This was the general definition since the 80s, I dont know why people keep trying to blur the definition. If you cant control the burnout its not a drift. If you aren't even burning out, its not a drift. I need to make a video since it appears far too many people don't know the difference, you would think a dedicated drift channel would know this lol. Yes you can slide a FWD car that is nothing new, and yes its still fun, we been doing it in rally forever lol. The only thing new is people are calling it drifting, which it is not, I think its probably a fear of missing out thing. And yes you NEED the handbrake, it is not optional, do not make it seem like its optional. Watch your own video those guys are pumping that handbrake nonstop. We had to as well back in the day.
Really wonder were this definition came from since drifting was born in a shitty 100hp corolla and was basically powersliding corners just chill a bit who gives a fuck what drifting is it's for fun anyway it's not like it will win you any race
@@cristianseminario7899 Accurate factual information is important. Especially for people who want to participate at events. This misinformation is giving people a false sense of hope. If you are ok with people bringing a fwd to a drift event you are in for a rude awakening. You havent been involved in an actual drift scene at any level and it shows lol. People who actually drift will point and laugh at anyone showing up to a drift event with a fwd car, they more than likely will not let you participate because you cant hold a drift. You will break the line and piss off everyone behind you and more than likely cause a wreck. They might let you chase behind every one but they sure as hell wont let you lead. Why? Because no you can't actually drift a fwd. If you have ever drifted a car on a track with low speed corners you would actually know that, but I like I said it is 100% FOMO.
@@socksonfeet8125 don't need to be involved it's just entertainment for the driver and the one that looks at it if it looks good it's fine whatever the drivetrain is. You drift guys are too fixated on the meaning of a word and can't see any further than that. The video clearly shows some decent action 100% better than a kid that just got his licence and a rwd car
@@cristianseminario7899 read the first sentence in my original post, still stand by that. You can't call an orange an apple and expect everyone to be okay with it. But hey do what you want, people are calling their gender all kinds of stupid made up shit these days. Not surprised you want to say 2+3 =19. But like I said go ahead do what you want. If your rear wheels aren't doing a burnout its not a drift, period.
this is called powersliding. its LITERALLY impossible for a FWD car to drift because drifting means a rear wheel drive car sliding while accelerating and maintaining control. therefore a FWD car cant do this..
Seeing civics tandem is wild ngl
For real tho 😂
something i never expected to see
1st time I ever seen a FWD actually drift and not powerslide... I'm impressed.
FWD doesn't powerslide. Powersliding is using the accelerator to kick out the rear wheels by sending too much power to them so they lose grip. That technique can only be done by RWD and AWD vehicles.
@@HazyTown01 oh god here we go again
@@poppachoppa8956 he's not wrong though. drifting originally referred to change of momentum slides like a scandi-flick
Call it how you want to but to me the thing that makes that the difference between a proper drift and this is, like it is said in the video: "You can't build momentum. All you can do is spend it"
Power slide is when you spin the rear wheel drives to the rear end slide, or as it is more commonly know now, drifting...
When I want to drift my fwd car I tend to just let the car oversteer a little bit, then, when in the middle section of the curve the rear tires start to whistle I immediatly full countersteer, tap handbrake and give throttle and then countersteer again. I Think that if it works on a 69hp 2004 toyota yaris, it can work everywhere
Ehh i wouldn't be so quick to think low power economy cars are so bad. Often times those are the best ones for having fun and they handle great. Power has little to do with sliding, only maintaining one.
Awesome advice here. I'm going to have to try it when I can.
@@sodapopcowboy8620 I’m going drifting in my eclipse, I need too😂
the second countersteer is in the opposite direction of the first or in the same one?
If the fwd car doesn't have a handbrake but a foot brake, is it still possible to drift with it?
This is the first video I've seen of skilled drivers drifting in FWD cars. I always assumed FWD cars couldn't really do it.
People are finally learning
When ur drifting around in the wintertime in ur fwd car and kno u got way more skill than the beamer tryna slide infront of you
I drift fwd all the time, I’d say its easier to avoid spinning out and maintain control bc you have power to the front wheels but definitely still takes plenty of skill to drift fwd properly 👍🏼
@@030yk you forget that staying in the drift is much harder, it's really not easier lmfao.
@@dilfonicz it's easier to not spin out
@@dilfonicz obviously holding it is harder you have no power to the rear wheels lol
I have an fwd "drifting" video on my channel if anyone is interested. I took it quite easy while filming that video, because I hit a snow bank pretty hard a few days earlier when I filmed that video :D I went a bit too hard in a bank rear first, thus the car straightened and BAM
I learned how to drift my Focus back in the day when there was snow and ice. Had to learn to control the car in those conditions, which had the side effect of having to learn to control oversteer. It's funny, everyone gets so stressed out about driving in snow and ice, it's like my favorite thing in the world.
I used to drift on a downhill course back in the days with my moms 01 Renault Laguna mk2. That thing would slide the rear around quite a bit without the need of the handbrake. And you do have to brake in corners at high speeds to get that rear sliding (40+mph). And if you are gentle enough with the steering and gas pedal at the exit you can exit the drift just as quickly as you entered it.
Also drifting a fwd requires more hand braking and it also prefixes little to no smoke
More smoke than an underpowered rwd car tho 😂
A slow rwd whit shitty tires doesn't smoke either
Looks like shingo got a new opponent
1:08 lovely break down of the common misconceptions
Good explanations
People hating fwd car drift .
But in japan peoplw having fun from it.
The first ever drift comp in Hawaii was won by a fwd civic
its like a fast and funny toy but you know if you break that toy isnt that expensive to repair as a big v8 block of big race car, thats why people still loving hondas fwd or any fwd car for do funny and stupid things, because fwd is happinness when you're bored lmao (and they are cheap) (and good) (and cheap)
Used to drift a front wheel without touching the hand break
before approaching the turn point at a speed of 30-40km
I downshift to the 1st gear, while still holding the clutch hit the gas to a high RPM (4)
let the clutch, keep the gas & turn the wheel!
Why is it necessary to hit
The gas and let the clutch?
@@Antonio-li5vp To still have high RPM at the time of letting clutch go, so you have the power neccesary to stay in drift? Not pro's opinion, just guessing
@@Antonio-li5vp Also have tried it, and it works so, yeah, he's spittin facts
Yea, but that transmission is preying to machine god to end her suffering
I recommend drifting in winter, when theres snow, so if u crash to snow it wont damage ur car as much as in summertime if crashing to a tree or something
I do something similar in my car, but I use the tires to drag it, and no handbrake. I just abuse the slip angle for slides and correcting my car thru turns. Car I have is really easy to abuse Physics tho lmao. I feelt like it was hacking for the longest time, but it would appear some real G's here have been having a good time for a while lmao. Love the vid.
what car*?
@@Difixed Saturn Sl2.
yooo, those are sick, reminds me of nissan 300z in styling.
@@Difixed bro, I love the car lmao.i just have to figure out something for its diff iasue lmao. Did you see the Ridge Chaser vid, where he used an sl2 to Toge? I was like "WHAAAAAAAT?!"
I hate everything about this.
10/10 video production.
it gets under your skin don’t it
Put some big heavy sway bars on the rear, that should really help! ;)
Not the same as RWD for sure but thats pretty impressive. I can drift FWD on gravel using front breaks and trnsfering weight but i can't hold it for that long. I used to have a 700kg 3 cylinder swift i could flick around roundabouts and tighter turns through weight transfer but again i could not hold it for long. It was all in the light weight the turn in around sharp turns was not comparable to any other car i have driven.
In Rally we use left foot braking. I rarely use the handbrake, only used in hairpin turns.
yeah, with enough speed and control, a foot break is plentiful to slide you around a dirt corner.
Used to take my old Lucerne to my local mall and rip donuts all the time. Friends didn’t believe me until I took them with. Just gotta tap the gas and maintain your speed the minute you don’t that’s when you lose control. Like trying to write with your left hand just because you think it’s impossible doesn’t mean it isn’t with practice 🤙
I thought i can't drift with my Alto, but i saw one in your video and believe it is possible
From what i can see (correct me if im wrong), front wheel drive is inertia drift and not power drift which you can easily do on underpowered rwd cars while on downhill curves
i used to do FWD drifting on Gran Turismo 2 using the same technique!
Try to do that on GT4
@@medmusic7977 could try, GT4 is kinda wierd to drift, could try it on AC tho
@@RogueBeatsARG yeah it’s impossible to drift there
Yeah AC is pretty cool, not only u learn how to drift but that also applies to real life.
Well, I drifted by mistake once in my dads 1600kg station wagon while going 100kmh on an highway exit. Quite scary but the most fun thing ive ever done. Tip of the day: dont drive on bald winter tires when the road is wet.
1:50 That backfire ended his drift 😐
That is because the "backfire" was actually the tyre blowing up... Not fun!
damn thats crazy. ive never seen it before
2:50 what is this cute little thing?
honda city, looks like an EF tho
I do it in the mountains without the handbrake. Just a quick flick of the steering wheel and I have my little van sideways at 80kms on a mountain edge. The throttle gets you out of it
Amazing
in the winter i only put snow tires on the front and i would drift around all the time in town fun stuff lol
There are some misconceptions in this video. FF cars are unlikely to oversteer because the car is being pulled rather than pushed not because there is more weight in the front. In fact, having more weight in the front makes it more difficult to whip the tail out and why drift trucks add weight to the rear.
Having power sent to the front means you can spin out the front tires, breaking traction and understeering. This is why rwd cars are easier to drift. It's easier to spin out the tires that have power.
More weight over the front or rear means more traction in that area, but remember you can break traction by spinning out the wheels.
Thats why timing your braking in fwd is important for drifting
@@FineysHiney That same applies for racing.
Yo Drift trays are usefull to drift in FWD 1#get drift trays 2# put the drift trays under the rear tyres 3#pull the activate the handbrake so the drift trays won't fall off 4#full throttle 5# keep it in counter steering then done
As a Honda guy who matured into a drift guy.
I just cant class dragging the handbrake as drifting.
If our Japanese friends said so, then it's drifting. No matter what, since you're sliding your car into the apex.
FWD drifting is more drifting, than RWD, cuz RWD powerslides after apex. In FWD car technically cant powerslide, so...
@@hehmda1745 lol
Learned drifting from a D1 driver from Team Orange in Japan. The first thing they teach is using hand brake technique. Hand braking is the most original drifting technique.
Do I have to prepare the car first right? Going with high revs or using hand brake could damage the engine/brakes/clutch/transmission? Or you can drift any car as long as it has enough power to drift? I always wondered that. Nice explanation!
it's all about weight and momentum management. you need to build the momentum up and then use the weight of the car to slide with either a throttle lift, scandinavian flick, or the handbrake. also high revs wont do anything but burn fuel faster when you keep it under the redline.
there's a stellar video by conorsev on the 3 main methods of fwd "drifting." more than any HP number, the key is understanding the weight shift. I've got a 150hp 2018 5spd stock Jetta, and I use just handbrake n brake weight shifting cause I can't go fast enough safely on my back roads to use let off oversteer. the video really breaks down the methods far better than I can articulate lol
@@aayushbagul3702 thank you! I have a 91 Mazda 323f, it has 88hp. I was wondering how the car would handle at drifting but I've never done that so that tips would help.
@@MattDols the dude in the red EG6 in this video said that wider front tires in the front helped, and smaller tires in the rear helped. That's a tip i'd look into if possible.
I drift my fwd on the regular, I slid around a roundabout about 3 hours ago now.
The best way I've figured out it basically q clutch kick, idk if I'm doing right, but kind of like launching? But while I'm already driving, I use ebrake but only for the rain tbh
The WRC anyone ever watch a rally? ...Of course it's possible what are we even talking about here? Wow 🤔
1:16
Me: You can do it buddy! I believe in you!
WOW!!! It is amazing! They have skill!
Can you drift using a FWD car with CVT?
petting my fwd skoda octavia to give it encouragement to oversteer 🥰🥰🥰
I kind of drift by weight shifting during winter. Then it really doesn't matter what the car is, although 4WD is the easy mode for that kind of drifting. Still, in my opinion handbraking is kind of lame.
Ok now it make sense that why this EG hatchback has appeared on Initial D.
Snow is your friend if you wanna drift FWD. You can really make ‘em dance and not so abusive to the car like on pavement
Honestly it looks like a Temu version of drifting.
Shoulders and biceps day!
The secret for FWD is flinging your wrist opposite before turn in heel-toe downshift with a very soft front end with a really stiff rear end + good sticky tires to keep pulling you through. But don't drift a FWD please, You are just going to be replacing rear brakes and flattened out rear tires at twice the rate a RWD car would with no cool points gained.
ye, but its not as fun as RWD drifting. Sensation is different, since you are not pushing yourself through the corners
Try all wheel drive drifting. Even more fun then since you full throttle while you drifting
me and my buddy be drifting his cobalt
I wonder how many Hondas were totaled after this video was released
How about a mid-engined or rear-engined FWD drift car?
can i do it in a stock D16 tho? i slid it fully sideways once and recovered but that was bc it was wet that day
yea why not, pls dont die
These Honda guys need to learn about hydraulic e-brake
i like druifting with front wheel cars.
Another technique. Powerslide🥶
If a powerslide the car will straighten it self at mid turn
Calling this a drift is VERY generous imo
Japanese brain 🧠 is really 👌🏻👍🏻
What car is this red one at 3:38 when the scene changes? It's also at the very very beginning in the opening sequence.
it did show ae101
what is black one at 3:48 ?
i drift an old fwd manual from 2002 with no power steering and a broken handbrake and the car is so heavy
Good to learn in a fwd first anyways, take it off-road.
where are these clips from I need more fwd drifting lol
Where is this footage from?
So they are power sliding not drifting
can you tell me the difference between drifting and powerslide? briefly
Powerslide = slipping after the apex of the corner
Drifting = slipping before the apex of the corner
This is cool and fun, we used to do this back in high school with beater FWD cars before we moved to RWD cars, but man people have blurred the definition of "drifting" by saying every slide is a drift. Too many people are calling "powersliding", "drifting", these days. "Drifting" is not just any old sliding around, a general slide in any car is called a "powerslide". A "Drift" is a controlled sideways burnout while the car is moving forward, only RWD can really do this. This was the general definition since the 80s, I dont know why people keep trying to blur the definition. If you cant control the burnout its not a drift. If you aren't even burning out, its not a drift. I need to make a video since it appears far too many people don't know the difference, you would think a dedicated drift channel would know this lol. Yes you can slide a FWD car that is nothing new, and yes its still fun, we been doing it in rally forever lol. The only thing new is people are calling it drifting, which it is not, I think its probably a fear of missing out thing. And yes you NEED the handbrake, it is not optional, do not make it seem like its optional. Watch your own video those guys are pumping that handbrake nonstop. We had to as well back in the day.
Really wonder were this definition came from since drifting was born in a shitty 100hp corolla and was basically powersliding corners just chill a bit who gives a fuck what drifting is it's for fun anyway it's not like it will win you any race
@@cristianseminario7899 Accurate factual information is important. Especially for people who want to participate at events. This misinformation is giving people a false sense of hope. If you are ok with people bringing a fwd to a drift event you are in for a rude awakening. You havent been involved in an actual drift scene at any level and it shows lol. People who actually drift will point and laugh at anyone showing up to a drift event with a fwd car, they more than likely will not let you participate because you cant hold a drift. You will break the line and piss off everyone behind you and more than likely cause a wreck. They might let you chase behind every one but they sure as hell wont let you lead. Why? Because no you can't actually drift a fwd. If you have ever drifted a car on a track with low speed corners you would actually know that, but I like I said it is 100% FOMO.
@@socksonfeet8125 don't need to be involved it's just entertainment for the driver and the one that looks at it if it looks good it's fine whatever the drivetrain is. You drift guys are too fixated on the meaning of a word and can't see any further than that. The video clearly shows some decent action 100% better than a kid that just got his licence and a rwd car
@@cristianseminario7899 read the first sentence in my original post, still stand by that. You can't call an orange an apple and expect everyone to be okay with it. But hey do what you want, people are calling their gender all kinds of stupid made up shit these days. Not surprised you want to say 2+3 =19. But like I said go ahead do what you want. If your rear wheels aren't doing a burnout its not a drift, period.
Ive drifted in a fwd car bro. Calm down. Youre not as skilled 😅@socksonfeet8125
I did this shit all the time and have so much control around corner and feel like a king because nobody think fed can do dat lol
Weird but cool
Nice.
good luck replacing the stretched handbrake cables in every hour ...
Ima try this in my corolla
Pls don't crash
@@drift_time okie
I learned that I broke both my front axle
Ever heard of SAAB?
This probably does a lot of wear to the car compared to rwd drifting.
So you’re telling me there’s a chance
Cool !!!
Its possible tho
I have a 4wd and it can drift too
fwd drifting is possible but it isnt practical because it causes more strain on the drive train than a rwd
since when have drift cars ever been built to be durable lol
Not so sure about that😅
I can do fwd drift
But in gran turismo
Bruv never seen such thing in me life
Fwd is just better aslong as you can frive it right
can you do a 370z
It's look like FR.
this is called powersliding. its LITERALLY impossible for a FWD car to drift because drifting means a rear wheel drive car sliding while accelerating and maintaining control.
therefore a FWD car cant do this..
I WANNA BE ON RACE TRACK BUT ITS SOO EXPENSIVE🥲
can you drift in a fwd automatic?
Automatic car can drift you just need to be skilled
bet thnx @@Popo_Cruiser
@@skulldude101 no problem
Now drift a 1970 Toronado.
Possible? Yes. Decent? No.
Exactly it looks like ass lol
Subi Boi’s big mad
Too bad I have a shitty electric parking brake that’s the standard on all new cars. Can’t even turn the brake on/off unless the battery is on
I feel like fwd drift faster then rwd
Its fun, but definitely not faster.
Drift is slow to begin whit
On my way now to crash my shitbox Galant
Of course you can oversteer a FWD car. YOU CAN"T POWERDRIFT IT THOUGH. That's the point mate. you just can't power slide it.
Where is you can’t do this in pro street
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