If I were to make such a list... Rangefinder: Primary:Minolta CLE with 40mm Rokkor lens. This camera was the result of a collaboration between Minolta and Leica. Some Leica users wanted a little second body in case they wanted to load a second camera with b&w film or to have something to take to the park just in case a picture needed taking. They hired Minolta to design and build this little camera...Leica sold it as the CL and Minolta, with a better metering system, as the CLE. The fun part about this camera: The lens mount is Leica M, so any bayonet Leica lens hooks right up, no problem at all. Alternate: Leica makes a range of fixed-lens cameras that works very well. Non-pro manual focus 35mm SLR: Primary: Minolta X-700. This is a good solid camera with excellent glass that sells for so cheap you can buy four or five bodies just in case one breaks. Which probably won't happen. (I had one of these.) Alternate: Contax ST. Uses Zeiss lenses. Has ceramic pressure plate. Takes very good pictures. What not to get: Used Pentax K1000. Ninety percent of the yearbook photos in the "film" era of yearbook production were shot on these. By high school kids. Who drop cameras. Frequently. They made these cameras until 1997, so you might be able to find a New In Box one...if you can, grab it. A K1000 that hasn't been dropped is a very good machine. Pro manual focus 35mm SLR: Primary: Canon F-1. I chose it over the Nikon F3 because I felt like it. Canon, Nikon, Minolta and Olympus all made a camera that was utterly reliable, fully featured and rugged enough that you could use it as a club and fight your way out of a riot with it. So...I picked the Canon. Alternate: Olympus OM-1N. As rugged as a Canon or Nikon but a hell of a lot smaller. What not to get: Nikon F. These were built in the 1950s and used hard. Pro autofocus 35mm SLR: Primary: Nikon F4S. F5 has a more advanced meter and F6 isn't nearly as huge, but I prefer the "one knob per function" Nikon esthetic, and the F4 was the last pro Nikon to have it. It's also less expensive. (I own one now.) Alternate: My only brand repeat: Canon EOS-1 series. I like the EOS-1 because it's a lot smaller than the F4 and as good. I went with F4 because I always wanted an F4. What not to get: I don't know...one that's broken? Medium format camera: Primary: Mamiya 645 Pro TL. Mamiya invented the 6x4.5cm film format - fifteen frames per roll of 120. For a very long time, the standard Pro Wedding Camera was a Mamiya 645 bolted to a Metz 60CT-1 flash. Because it was, there are a ton of good used lenses on the market for this mount. The Pro TL is the last one before they went autofocus, so it's the least likely to be worn out. (I have one of these too.) Alternate: Bronica ETRS. Same film format as the M645, but less popular when these were new so the prices are lower. What not to get: Mamiya RB67. This camera is truly wonderful. It makes nice huge negs that are so sharp you can shave with them. It has bellows focus for built-in macro focus with any lens in the range, the back revoives so you can shoot verticals without turning the body on its side...except for the fact an RB67 with a metering prism and 250mm lens weighs ten pounds, it would be perfect. The weight ALONE is enough to get me to warn you against them.
There is a difference. Store prices are always a bit more coz you get to check every single element and get what you see. Also in this particular video, they raided shops that had cameras in excellent condition. If you try to buy near mint ones, you will see that these prices are not that hiked. Of course, you can find a more used and yet as much effective model for a fraction of that price, but condition totally dictates the price
My pick would be the Nikon FE, just because it's much lighter and more compact than an F3. I'm still in love with this camera, after about 20 years of using one.
I agree: Any of the FE/FM/FA family are fantastic tools: Actually better than the F3, as they offer 1/200-1/250s flash synchro, over the rather lame 1/80 of the F3 - which makes fill-in flash a chore. My personal favourite has always been the FE2 (with an E-type screen) - THE perfect 35mm SLR, if there is such a thing.
Oh, that'd be interesting. There are a ton of old cameras with AMAZING lenses that you can get for next to nothing. I got a Kodak Retina with a Schneider-Kreuznach Xenar 2.8/50 for $40 about a year ago. It is SO sharp and SUCH a challenge to use. It's a lovely thing.
Yeah for $1000 you could have a full APS-C DSLR & lenses kit tbh, $100 would be a better challenge for film cameras, as most hobbyists won't spend $1000 on one.
That's actually my F3 and 2.8/55 Micro for sale at Fotopia on consignment. Seeing them on this review has given me a change of heart... will now keep the F3. Such a good solid camera.
After watching this episode, I researched the Nikon F3 for a couple of days. Then went to my local camera store (the local camera stores in America are getting scarce because of superstores and online shopping) and I found Nikon F3 body in great shape. So I'm looking forward to playing with it as soon as I get a lens for it. Thanks Bellamy.
Love the F3 pick. I have the HP version and the meter is incredible on that thing. Not to mention that the viewfinder is GORGEOUS. Bought it used for just over 100US bucks. Added a used 35 2.8 AI lens, and I'm good to good.
I would suggest: Voigtlander Bessa R3A/R3M instead of the Contax G2 because it is a current model that can still be serviced and it takes Leica M-mount lenses. Nikon FE2 instead of the F3 because it has 1/250sec flash synch speed Iideal for fill flash) and is smaller/lighter. Yashica Electro 35 GSN/GTN or Canon Canonet G-III QL instead of Contax T2/T3 because they are much cheaper and have excellent lenses. Bronica ETRSi with 75mm PE lens instead of Pentax 67 because it is much smaller and lighter. PE lenses are top performers. Voigtlander Bessa R3A/R3M (see above) instead of the Nikon S2 rangefinder.
I can't argue that the F3 is a great camera, but as far as value for money goes it's so hard to beat FD mount Canons. I've had an FTb for ages. It's super basic, match needle metering only, no automatic anything and a maximum shutter speed of 1/1000. It's very simple, but it is extremely intuitive to use, very quick and has a HUGE and bright .85x magnification finder. I love that little camera, it's a very minimalist functional wonder. At the other end of the FD mount spectrum is the A-1, which isn't as durable as the all metal FTb, but it has Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority and full-auto exposure. Of course, FD mount lenses tend to be excellent. The FD system was Canon's first attempt to take on Nikon in earnest, and they did a magnificent job. There are a ton of fast, sharp FD lenses with great color characteristics available(and the "nifty-fifty" f/1.4 is one of the best of all time... the f/1.2L is even better). I have a Canon F-1 as well, and I find the FTb is nicer to use and better ergonomically. I've been putting up with a defect in the finder for ages because I haven't had the heart to replace that trusty old warhorse with another FTb body. Seriously Kai, spend some time with the FD system today, you'll be glad you did.
I own a lot of film and there are tons under $1K USD. - Nikon F3HP with motor drive with a Nikon 50mm f/1.2 AS-I lens. - Nikon F5 which is very affordable! Only $250 and up on eBay, some even in mint condition. With the left over, you can get multiple lenses for it. - Another for under $1K, would be the Nikon F6 body. Great thing is it uses any Nikon lenses, even the older version lenses. It will meter it. - Contax RTS II with motor drive and a 50mm f/1.4 lens. I'm surprised you guys didn't even mention the Canon F1!
I agree on all the choices. Personally I own The Contax T2. Brand new sold for around $850 about 20 years ago. It is a gem. Excellent build quality. Superb lens. Warning !!! Do not handle one if you are not planning to buy it... lol
Always glad to have a new AnalogRev episode, but I'm a bit disappointed that medium format only got a little blip out of the whole episode. MF cameras range from cheap TLRs and lomography cameras to expensive rangefinders and models of all sorts. Given that digital cameras have tanked the prices of MF cameras in a way unthinkable 20 years ago, I would greatly enjoy learning more about what quality and bang-for-buck pieces are out there.
I carried a G2 for 10 years and it was super reliable. Also, there is still an official US based contax repair service. I sent mine in once to replace the frame counter LCD and they completely replaced the viewfinder electronics and cleaned it for free.
Thank you Bellamy. I'm now the proud owner of a Nikon F3 HP and its a beauty!! Problem is now I'm addicted and have also a F2 and about to purchases a delicious F. My love of film cameras has been rekindled. B&W film ordered and excited to start. My Nikon D810 is sulking on a shelf lolol
Whoohoo! My favorite segment on DigitalRev! Film Cameras! Nikon F3 all the way baby! Hehe.. I think, I'm going to be one of those tourist who will go to HongKong to shop for old film cameras. Please make a review about RolleiFlex TLR! Thank you Mr. Hunt for all your suggestions! Keep up the great work DigitalRev! Cheers!
Great video and good selection of cameras. This summer I bought: Mamiya c330f +80mm lens £130 Mamiya super deluxe rangefinder £23 Canon f1-n £135 I love each one for how they are to use and the results they give. Hoping for more analog rev. Cheers, jon
I'll add my own top 5: Nikon FM2N, Nikon 35ti, Minolta TC-1, Fujifilm GS645, Minolta CLE (or Leica CL, although quite different from Minolta). But Bellamy Hunt 's choices are all great as well!
If you want a Leica, I would recommend a Leica M3 in good condition + vintage Cron for around $800 (or less if you dig around a bit). M4 also is a relatively inexpensive camera if you do a bit of searching.
I have a little Nikon FG-20 that no one has heard of. Pretty small, tough, light meter, aperture priority (if you're into that sort of thing). Got it with two lenses for just over $100. It's awesome!
My fave sub $500 SLR is still the Canon AE-1. Lenses are great and cheap as hell, bodies are durable, it's simple and easy, you'll find practically ANY accessory ever made PLUS you're lucky you could even find one under 100.
Yeah, I got one from my dad to start analog photography. Over the years I bought some lenses (which are all cheap as hell), flashes and other accessories, now I have a very decent kit. I'm thinking of getting a Canon (new) F1 now, and further an EOS 1 for my EF-Lenses.
I have both the AE-1 and AE-1 Program. I think the Program is better, even if I don't use the P mode. The Iso dial is in a better place and it can take the action grip. I started analog photography in summer 2013 with my Canon Av-1 and a maginon lens.
My top pick Leica M3 or M6, recently just bought my 2nd F3 comes with 55mm F/1.2 for $300, absolutely mint, totally in love my legendary old Nikkor lenses again.
I'm amazed the Nikon F100 isn't on his list. Works with _all_ F mount Nikon lenses, has the same focus and metering system as the Nikon F5, and I just picked one up in near mint condition for just over $100.
Bellamy Hunt Hey, Bellamy. I just had to come back to this to let you know, I put in four "Ultimate Lithium" Energizer AA batteries, right before I posted my original comment. No battery grip. More than 50% after 14 1/2 rolls of film, with a few rolls of 15-30 second long exposures thrown in there, and only shutting the camera off a handful of times... I think that's pretty damn good. (Still shows full battery) Though, I understand it'll never match the "battery life" of my FM2 (I never used it powered), for my first metered camera with AF, I'm loving it.
I use 4 Kodak AA Ni-MH and no issue at all after going through a "can" of HP5+ a bit slower in continuous shooting but not much, and you can get AA batteries anywhere, that is why the F100 beats the EOS 3, I had both, and the 2CR2 batteries of the 3 were a PITA to get and buy at like 10 bucks each. (I don't like grips, they are big cameras as they are)
A great, but more difficult to find camera you forgot, is the Topcon Super D Reflex. Tough, reliable body, and excellent lenses. I bought my first Topcon RE in 1967, and it is still a great working camera. You can also use the Exacta lenses with these cameras. Where Topcon failed, was in marketing, not in quality. For a favourite rangefinder camera, for me, it is a tossup between my Canon 7S and my Leica M3. I even have a Russian Leica clone that still works quite well, even after 30 years. It uses the all the standard screw mount rangefinder lenses.
i did buy a Fujica GS645 Professional just for 50€ and it is fully working. I only had to tape the old original bellow to make it light sealed and i must admit its my favorite camera right now. medium format (6x4,5) rangefinder and it can take 15 exposures for 1 film.
Solid selections. Fun video. Other good ones -- Konica Auto S3, Yashica Electro CC or GX for rangefinders. Hard to beat the Nikon F3, listed. And he's bang on about that Contax.
Well I use Contax G2 with 45mm F2, I have to say it is really tough and durable than I expected. I especially love the touch of the grips on the camera body.
For medium format cameras, for me, the best choice is Mamiya RZ67 Pro + 110mm. If wanting something older, go for the RB67 Pro S + K/L127mm. Any from $400~600 will satisfy.
The Contax G1 and G2 are VERY sturdy cameras that will still outlast most digital cameras. You can also get a used Leica M2 or M3 and Lens for under $1000.
My picks in the same order (except for the last): -FED 4a with Jupiter 8 50mm f/2 -Canon FT-QL with 50mm f1./2 L -Fuji Klasse S -Pentax 645n with the P67 105mm -Mamiya C330 with 80mm f/2.8 "blue dot"
notice how Kai doesn't say much when the topic is on cameras and not on human genitals or some sexual lame joke. Example look at 8:20, see how happy Kai gets when he has chance to talk about penis.
Thanks for this! I love when you guys cover analog gear! I shoot a Contax G2 and I have to agree, the image quality is on par with any other 35mm setup available. You know it is true Leica owners!! Cheers!
under $1000: 5D, 5DII, D600, D700, D7000 series, or Pentax KP, or K5 (as of early 2018) Best in my book: A used 5DII with MagicLantern 4K hack; I only spent US420 on that. Ahh: Older: Perhaps Nikon D60, a plethora of Canon 1.6x DSLRs. Or even the Kodak Pro SLR/n (I know, lol) ....but: Seriously, seriously good portrait sensor, nikon mount. However, it is heavy, slow, battery hungry and has a crappy menu/screen/ergonomics.... Still, ok in a studio with an external screen, tripod, power-supply, i.e. on life support.... Takes VERY nice images and you'll be the only kid in your town still shooting one.
I got both of my Canon EOS-1V for around $600-700 each. The last big dog film camera from Canon *and* I can use all my modern "L" glass on them. IF I'm feeling nostalgic for manual focus, just flip the switch on the lens.
The contax G2 can be serviced and repaired by tocad USA. I had mine repaired in 2014 Although kyrocera in Japan isn't around any more they still have authorized repair centers In Japan that will repair other contax cameras
Anthony Popovic They do have authorized repair centres, that is true. But due to a lack of parts only certain cameras and certain issues on those cameras can be repaired. The G2 can be for certain issues, but if it is series then it is not possible. Thanks.
Rubi Cisca - Don't be so literal. The problem is indeed that 1000 Dollars is way too wide and it could be almost anything unless it's some kind of highly sought after rare collectible. Maybe they should've made it 500 or even 250. - And by the way, the point was in comparison with a good 1000 Dollar dSLR, but still, there's no point in spending many hundreds on a film-camera, because there are great ones for little money. - So instead of saying "under a thousand" they might as well be saying "any affordable one".
Pentax MX all day, everything you want in a small, affordable body. Tons of lenses in K-mount out there! You can even mount m42 with the adapters Pentax still makes.
Love the vid! Fan of the JCH site, happy to see film represented here again too. My 6x7 setup has rendered all dslr's puny and cheap. And none of them sound like shotguns!
I really love old cameras and film photography. This video was awesome - informative, interesting...and it made me want to at least visit Hong Kong, if not live there - just for the width and breadth of camera shops around. Drool-worthy! I'll definitely have to pick up a Pentax 67 at some point.
Nikon´s Fs are great. I love Rolleiflex with a Carl Zeiss lens (Plannar 80mm/2,8 or Plannar 75mm/3,5). Under $1.000 my choice is the Rollei 35 SE if you´re a good and experienced photographer because the camera is a metal box with a great lens.
great now everyone knows where to get them in HK GOD damn it HAHA !!!!! P.S. can u do more analogrev? While watching this video I am glad to know that my father and uncles have taken very good care of their gear from back when they were young. They passed on pretty much in brand new condition. One of my fav is definitely G2. Completely agree with what they said, it is a camera that cannot be fixed, at least not for cheap. However The quality of this camera, and most of all the lens.... oh my god.... haha The joy of this camera .... actually I would say.. is unlike a leica M3 or sth like that, this camera is like " back to the future". Its not the more advance camera out there, but everything about this camera just makes, even a pro to choose it and use it as a daily camera. It just feels.. different! one of my fav cameras
Submariner and Leica... Bellamy is rich! Even with my love and experience with Fuji Xt1, Leica, Olympus OM and other non menu cameras I thought the F3 was a PITA. For me, F100 or F6 would be easier choices. Retro? Leica iiif... or any Bronica/Mamiya depending on my goals. Cool show and tell and informative.
I finally sold my 67. the 90mm lens can be had with leaf shutter which is soooo important to avoid the slap, otherwise be sure you have the MLU version a must. It just was too heavy for me and it's not a great studio camera as loading film is tedious. Better is the pricer contax 67. but its YUUUUGE
No mention of the Canon T90? Top of the line film SLR from the pre-autofocus era! Automatic filmtransport, up to 4000/s shutter speed, 4.5 frames per second, advanced light metering, and a wide array of affordable FD Lenses to go with it. You can even get the body for under 200$
"Expect to pay between 300 to 500 dollars for a good Contax t2"
Me: *Laughs in 2021*
I vomited on my floor when I heard that
how much are they worth now?
@@BugalooB a couple thousand USD.
A Contax waist level finder is more than 500 dollars on ebay now xd
Yeah, when he said that, I paused the video to check the publish date. 😭
If I were to make such a list...
Rangefinder:
Primary:Minolta CLE with 40mm Rokkor lens. This camera was the result of a collaboration between Minolta and Leica. Some Leica users wanted a little second body in case they wanted to load a second camera with b&w film or to have something to take to the park just in case a picture needed taking. They hired Minolta to design and build this little camera...Leica sold it as the CL and Minolta, with a better metering system, as the CLE. The fun part about this camera: The lens mount is Leica M, so any bayonet Leica lens hooks right up, no problem at all.
Alternate: Leica makes a range of fixed-lens cameras that works very well.
Non-pro manual focus 35mm SLR:
Primary: Minolta X-700. This is a good solid camera with excellent glass that sells for so cheap you can buy four or five bodies just in case one breaks. Which probably won't happen. (I had one of these.)
Alternate: Contax ST. Uses Zeiss lenses. Has ceramic pressure plate. Takes very good pictures.
What not to get: Used Pentax K1000. Ninety percent of the yearbook photos in the "film" era of yearbook production were shot on these. By high school kids. Who drop cameras. Frequently. They made these cameras until 1997, so you might be able to find a New In Box one...if you can, grab it. A K1000 that hasn't been dropped is a very good machine.
Pro manual focus 35mm SLR:
Primary: Canon F-1. I chose it over the Nikon F3 because I felt like it. Canon, Nikon, Minolta and Olympus all made a camera that was utterly reliable, fully featured and rugged enough that you could use it as a club and fight your way out of a riot with it. So...I picked the Canon.
Alternate: Olympus OM-1N. As rugged as a Canon or Nikon but a hell of a lot smaller.
What not to get: Nikon F. These were built in the 1950s and used hard.
Pro autofocus 35mm SLR:
Primary: Nikon F4S. F5 has a more advanced meter and F6 isn't nearly as huge, but I prefer the "one knob per function" Nikon esthetic, and the F4 was the last pro Nikon to have it. It's also less expensive. (I own one now.)
Alternate: My only brand repeat: Canon EOS-1 series. I like the EOS-1 because it's a lot smaller than the F4 and as good. I went with F4 because I always wanted an F4.
What not to get: I don't know...one that's broken?
Medium format camera:
Primary: Mamiya 645 Pro TL. Mamiya invented the 6x4.5cm film format - fifteen frames per roll of 120. For a very long time, the standard Pro Wedding Camera was a Mamiya 645 bolted to a Metz 60CT-1 flash. Because it was, there are a ton of good used lenses on the market for this mount. The Pro TL is the last one before they went autofocus, so it's the least likely to be worn out. (I have one of these too.)
Alternate: Bronica ETRS. Same film format as the M645, but less popular when these were new so the prices are lower.
What not to get: Mamiya RB67. This camera is truly wonderful. It makes nice huge negs that are so sharp you can shave with them. It has bellows focus for built-in macro focus with any lens in the range, the back revoives so you can shoot verticals without turning the body on its side...except for the fact an RB67 with a metering prism and 250mm lens weighs ten pounds, it would be perfect. The weight ALONE is enough to get me to warn you against them.
i remember watching this video 4 years ago!
prices have def changed since then
I love my Nikon f3. Bellemy spoke so highly of the f3 and it sparked my research into it.
Oh when the t2 was $500 mint.
Yup I actually laughed when I heard him say that...Oh I wish...
It was 2014, come on...
Have you seen prices on the T3 now? It's absurd.
pretty much any point and shoot camera with a descent lens costs a freaking lot
Before Kendal Jenner showed it off
Checking on eBay, I'm convinced that this video has hiked up the price on these cameras.
Kendall jenner hiked up the Contax t3
There is a difference. Store prices are always a bit more coz you get to check every single element and get what you see. Also in this particular video, they raided shops that had cameras in excellent condition. If you try to buy near mint ones, you will see that these prices are not that hiked. Of course, you can find a more used and yet as much effective model for a fraction of that price, but condition totally dictates the price
My pick would be the Nikon FE, just because it's much lighter and more compact than an F3. I'm still in love with this camera, after about 20 years of using one.
I agree: Any of the FE/FM/FA family are fantastic tools: Actually better than the F3, as they offer 1/200-1/250s flash synchro, over the rather lame 1/80 of the F3 - which makes fill-in flash a chore. My personal favourite has always been the FE2 (with an E-type screen) - THE perfect 35mm SLR, if there is such a thing.
I love my Pentax LX. Weatherproof, interchangeable focus screens, and so many more.
Pentax K, MX, LX. 33 years of flawless photography.
what about a "5 Top Film Cameras for Under $100" episode?!...
That would be awesome ..
Oh, that'd be interesting. There are a ton of old cameras with AMAZING lenses that you can get for next to nothing. I got a Kodak Retina with a Schneider-Kreuznach Xenar 2.8/50 for $40 about a year ago. It is SO sharp and SUCH a challenge to use. It's a lovely thing.
Yeah for $1000 you could have a full APS-C DSLR & lenses kit tbh, $100 would be a better challenge for film cameras, as most hobbyists won't spend $1000 on one.
Minolta X700. Done.
+jbmaru for $1000 you could buy an exponentially better film camera than a cheap dslr
10:03 The Voigtlander Bessa's!! In my opinion a very underrated rangefinder
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Got a Nikon F3 in mint condition, like new, around 240$ on ebay. Best buy in my life
That's actually my F3 and 2.8/55 Micro for sale at Fotopia on consignment. Seeing them on this review has given me a change of heart... will now keep the F3. Such a good solid camera.
After watching this episode, I researched the Nikon F3 for a couple of days.
Then went to my local camera store (the local camera stores in America are getting scarce because of superstores and online shopping) and I found Nikon F3 body in great shape. So I'm looking forward to playing with it as soon as I get a lens for it.
Thanks Bellamy.
Love the F3 pick. I have the HP version and the meter is incredible on that thing. Not to mention that the viewfinder is GORGEOUS. Bought it used for just over 100US bucks. Added a used 35 2.8 AI lens, and I'm good to good.
I would suggest:
Voigtlander Bessa R3A/R3M instead of the Contax G2 because it is a current model that can still be serviced and it takes Leica M-mount lenses.
Nikon FE2 instead of the F3 because it has 1/250sec flash synch speed Iideal for fill flash) and is smaller/lighter.
Yashica Electro 35 GSN/GTN or Canon Canonet G-III QL instead of Contax T2/T3 because they are much cheaper and have excellent lenses.
Bronica ETRSi with 75mm PE lens instead of Pentax 67 because it is much smaller and lighter. PE lenses are top performers.
Voigtlander Bessa R3A/R3M (see above) instead of the Nikon S2 rangefinder.
Listen to this person ^
They're wholly pragmatic recommendations with actual, practical knowledge to save you money. Not an influencer.
Lol, this is on point. Good updated recommendations
Exactly that!!
foto2021 shhhhh keep the Bessa as low key as possible lol
I can't argue that the F3 is a great camera, but as far as value for money goes it's so hard to beat FD mount Canons. I've had an FTb for ages. It's super basic, match needle metering only, no automatic anything and a maximum shutter speed of 1/1000. It's very simple, but it is extremely intuitive to use, very quick and has a HUGE and bright .85x magnification finder. I love that little camera, it's a very minimalist functional wonder.
At the other end of the FD mount spectrum is the A-1, which isn't as durable as the all metal FTb, but it has Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority and full-auto exposure.
Of course, FD mount lenses tend to be excellent. The FD system was Canon's first attempt to take on Nikon in earnest, and they did a magnificent job. There are a ton of fast, sharp FD lenses with great color characteristics available(and the "nifty-fifty" f/1.4 is one of the best of all time... the f/1.2L is even better).
I have a Canon F-1 as well, and I find the FTb is nicer to use and better ergonomically. I've been putting up with a defect in the finder for ages because I haven't had the heart to replace that trusty old warhorse with another FTb body.
Seriously Kai, spend some time with the FD system today, you'll be glad you did.
contax t2..........
this video did not age well.......
*cries in M42*
Yah, that changed quickly, didn't it! 😳
Pro tips from the protog of analog.
7D MK ll review! ^^
I'd go for the Minolta Dynax 9 and a nice G lens.
what about the canon eos3, that is a professional grade camera with eye reading focus. you can have one for 300$ and still use you canon ef lenses
Alexandru Dalak Great camera!!!
Jamie Mills I prefer the Dynax 7 to the 9 ... The 7 replaced the 9 as the top end camera.
I own a lot of film and there are tons under $1K USD.
- Nikon F3HP with motor drive with a Nikon 50mm f/1.2 AS-I lens.
- Nikon F5 which is very affordable! Only $250 and up on eBay, some even in mint condition. With the left over, you can get multiple lenses for it.
- Another for under $1K, would be the Nikon F6 body. Great thing is it uses any Nikon lenses, even the older version lenses. It will meter it.
- Contax RTS II with motor drive and a 50mm f/1.4 lens.
I'm surprised you guys didn't even mention the Canon F1!
Glad to see the Nikon F3 made the top 5 and just imagine if Contax made a digital version of the G2.
I agree on all the choices.
Personally I own The Contax T2. Brand new sold for around $850 about 20 years ago. It is a gem. Excellent build quality. Superb lens.
Warning !!! Do not handle one if you are not planning to buy it... lol
I recently bought a cheapo olympus OM10 and I'm really happy with it.
Always glad to have a new AnalogRev episode, but I'm a bit disappointed that medium format only got a little blip out of the whole episode. MF cameras range from cheap TLRs and lomography cameras to expensive rangefinders and models of all sorts. Given that digital cameras have tanked the prices of MF cameras in a way unthinkable 20 years ago, I would greatly enjoy learning more about what quality and bang-for-buck pieces are out there.
I feel as though you should be telling us good SLRs on a cheap budget to get started, or under rated gems that we should look out for!
Just bought myself a Contax G 90mm lens, one of the lenses mentioned during the G2 segment. It truly is a beautiful lens.
I was literally just re-watching your other analogrev vids and find you've uploaded another. Awesome. More please.
I carried a G2 for 10 years and it was super reliable. Also, there is still an official US based contax repair service. I sent mine in once to replace the frame counter LCD and they completely replaced the viewfinder electronics and cleaned it for free.
Best episode in a long while!
Thank you Bellamy. I'm now the proud owner of a Nikon F3 HP and its a beauty!! Problem is now I'm addicted and have also a F2 and about to purchases a delicious F. My love of film cameras has been rekindled. B&W film ordered and excited to start. My Nikon D810 is sulking on a shelf lolol
Nice to see these two together ♥️
I always liked shooting on the Nikon F3 and Pentax 6x7, would have included the Rollei 35 as well.
Canon a1 with a few good canon lenses (2.8/28, 1.4/50, 4/80-200, 2.5/135) would be my pick every day and you would still pay less than for a f3 ☺️
Whoohoo! My favorite segment on DigitalRev! Film Cameras! Nikon F3 all the way baby! Hehe.. I think, I'm going to be one of those tourist who will go to HongKong to shop for old film cameras. Please make a review about RolleiFlex TLR! Thank you Mr. Hunt for all your suggestions! Keep up the great work DigitalRev! Cheers!
Also, hopefully, I can meet the DigitalRev crew while walking around HK, that would be awesome!
Great video and good selection of cameras. This summer I bought:
Mamiya c330f +80mm lens £130
Mamiya super deluxe rangefinder £23
Canon f1-n £135
I love each one for how they are to use and the results they give. Hoping for more analog rev. Cheers, jon
I have a Nikon F3P HP så one of five I have. Nice to see I chose the same camera as he recomended.
Sears 1981 catalogue prices :
Nikon F3 + 50mm 1.8 -> 849.99$
Canon A1 + 50mm 1.8 -> 434.99$
Pentax LX + 50mm 1.7 -> 669.99$
Olympus Om2n + 50mm f1.8 -> 434.99$
And a cheapie for comparison ! Pentax K1000 + 50mm f2 -> 169.99$
always great to see film stuff and Bellamy
So many youtubers hyped this guy up. There are zillion of camera shops in Tokyo focused on film and film cameras most of them have listing on eBay.
I'll add my own top 5: Nikon FM2N, Nikon 35ti, Minolta TC-1, Fujifilm GS645, Minolta CLE (or Leica CL, although quite different from Minolta). But Bellamy Hunt 's choices are all great as well!
If you want a Leica, I would recommend a Leica M3 in good condition + vintage Cron for around $800 (or less if you dig around a bit). M4 also is a relatively inexpensive camera if you do a bit of searching.
I have a little Nikon FG-20 that no one has heard of. Pretty small, tough, light meter, aperture priority (if you're into that sort of thing). Got it with two lenses for just over $100. It's awesome!
My fave sub $500 SLR is still the Canon AE-1. Lenses are great and cheap as hell, bodies are durable, it's simple and easy, you'll find practically ANY accessory ever made PLUS you're lucky you could even find one under 100.
I had one in the 1990s, fabulous camera's, cheap as chips now too!
I bought one for $60 (£37) great condition too!
Yeah, I got one from my dad to start analog photography. Over the years I bought some lenses (which are all cheap as hell), flashes and other accessories, now I have a very decent kit.
I'm thinking of getting a Canon (new) F1 now, and further an EOS 1 for my EF-Lenses.
I have both the AE-1 and AE-1 Program. I think the Program is better, even if I don't use the P mode. The Iso dial is in a better place and it can take the action grip.
I started analog photography in summer 2013 with my Canon Av-1 and a maginon lens.
I still have an AE-1 Program from the 80's. A great camera.
My top pick Leica M3 or M6, recently just bought my 2nd F3 comes with 55mm F/1.2 for $300, absolutely mint, totally in love my legendary old Nikkor lenses again.
Just got my Pentax 6x7 with the 105mm f24. What a beast.. and yes, the shutter slap is a real thing..
I'm amazed the Nikon F100 isn't on his list.
Works with _all_ F mount Nikon lenses, has the same focus and metering system as the Nikon F5, and I just picked one up in near mint condition for just over $100.
To be honest, I didn't choose the F100 because it eats batteries like nobodies business. It is a great camera, but a very hungry camera. Thanks.
Bellamy Hunt Hey, Bellamy. I just had to come back to this to let you know, I put in four "Ultimate Lithium" Energizer AA batteries, right before I posted my original comment. No battery grip.
More than 50% after 14 1/2 rolls of film, with a few rolls of 15-30 second long exposures thrown in there, and only shutting the camera off a handful of times... I think that's pretty damn good. (Still shows full battery)
Though, I understand it'll never match the "battery life" of my FM2 (I never used it powered), for my first metered camera with AF, I'm loving it.
I use 4 Kodak AA Ni-MH and no issue at all after going through a "can" of HP5+ a bit slower in continuous shooting but not much, and you can get AA batteries anywhere, that is why the F100 beats the EOS 3, I had both, and the 2CR2 batteries of the 3 were a PITA to get and buy at like 10 bucks each. (I don't like grips, they are big cameras as they are)
I have a Nikon f3 and a Nikon s2
And I love both of them!
A great, but more difficult to find camera you forgot, is the Topcon Super D Reflex. Tough, reliable body, and excellent lenses. I bought my first Topcon RE in 1967, and it is still a great working camera. You can also use the Exacta lenses with these cameras. Where Topcon failed, was in marketing, not in quality.
For a favourite rangefinder camera, for me, it is a tossup between my Canon 7S and my Leica M3. I even have a Russian Leica clone that still works quite well, even after 30 years. It uses the all the standard screw mount rangefinder lenses.
I have to say I bought Nikon F3 few months ago and just love it. It's so good.
i did buy a Fujica GS645 Professional just for 50€ and it is fully working. I only had to tape the old original bellow to make it light sealed and i must admit its my favorite camera right now. medium format (6x4,5) rangefinder and it can take 15 exposures for 1 film.
Solid selections. Fun video. Other good ones -- Konica Auto S3, Yashica Electro CC or GX for rangefinders. Hard to beat the Nikon F3, listed. And he's bang on about that Contax.
The Olympus XA is a great 35mm rangefinder camera. Super small clamshell design with very good optics.
Well I use Contax G2 with 45mm F2, I have to say it is really tough and durable than I expected. I especially love the touch of the grips on the camera body.
For medium format cameras, for me, the best choice is Mamiya RZ67 Pro + 110mm. If wanting something older, go for the RB67 Pro S + K/L127mm. Any from $400~600 will satisfy.
I think analog camera deserve top 5 under 1000$ in every class - SLRs, compacts, medium formats etc...
Moar AnalogRev!
the Canonet QL17 is also a phenomenal point and shoot rangefinder camera. It is call "the poor man Leica" for a very good reason
The Contax G1 and G2 are VERY sturdy cameras that will still outlast most digital cameras. You can also get a used Leica M2 or M3 and Lens for under $1000.
Best episode in a long time! I'm desperate for more analog rev!
will be visiting Hong Kong this December, really helpful review to start on some camera hunting!
My picks in the same order (except for the last):
-FED 4a with Jupiter 8 50mm f/2
-Canon FT-QL with 50mm f1./2 L
-Fuji Klasse S
-Pentax 645n with the P67 105mm
-Mamiya C330 with 80mm f/2.8 "blue dot"
notice how Kai doesn't say much when the topic is on cameras and not on human genitals or some sexual lame joke.
Example look at 8:20, see how happy Kai gets when he has chance to talk about penis.
Lol yeah because kaiser has built 1,200,000+ subscribers around genitals and not cameras...
Cameras probably got boring to him...
Thanks for this! I love when you guys cover analog gear! I shoot a Contax G2 and I have to agree, the image quality is on par with any other 35mm setup available. You know it is true Leica owners!!
Cheers!
Really enjoyed this. If you could do a top 5 for digital SLRs (preferrably older models) that would be great.
under $1000: 5D, 5DII, D600, D700, D7000 series, or Pentax KP, or K5 (as of early 2018) Best in my book: A used 5DII with MagicLantern 4K hack; I only spent US420 on that. Ahh: Older: Perhaps Nikon D60, a plethora of Canon 1.6x DSLRs. Or even the Kodak Pro SLR/n (I know, lol) ....but: Seriously, seriously good portrait sensor, nikon mount. However, it is heavy, slow, battery hungry and has a crappy menu/screen/ergonomics.... Still, ok in a studio with an external screen, tripod, power-supply, i.e. on life support.... Takes VERY nice images and you'll be the only kid in your town still shooting one.
After such a long time , finally a new AnalogRev
I got both of my Canon EOS-1V for around $600-700 each. The last big dog film camera from Canon *and* I can use all my modern "L" glass on them. IF I'm feeling nostalgic for manual focus, just flip the switch on the lens.
I loved this episode!!
5:14 Yay! I keep seeing this on e-bay from time to time, from Hong Kong, and I can't help but think it's this very camera.
Love the more frequent uploads!
I have an f3! It is one of my favorite 35mm slr's
Good choices, but for medium format the Rolleiflex (and to a lesser extent the Rolleicord) are delightful.
Been searching for some time for a good film camera and now i've watched this great and useful video! Thanks. Liked the guest also//
I have an old Nikon FM10. Nothing wrong with that thing!
My top 1 for SLR oil camera is the Nikon FM3A, it has everything, manual and mechanical.
Nikon FM2 was my fave analog machine!
The contax G2 can be serviced and repaired by tocad USA. I had mine repaired in 2014
Although kyrocera in Japan isn't around any more they still have authorized repair centers
In Japan that will repair other contax cameras
Anthony Popovic They do have authorized repair centres, that is true. But due to a lack of parts only certain cameras and certain issues on those cameras can be repaired. The G2 can be for certain issues, but if it is series then it is not possible. Thanks.
I'm a little surprised they didn't talk about the Voightlanders for rangefinders. I've used one and I like it so much I'm getting a Bessa R.
He had one round his neck........and didn't pick one ;-(
i use some old nikon lenses for video and they are wonderful, especially the 50mm 1.4 and 35 2.0
Under $1000!?
I bought my Minolta SRT for less than £25 and even got a 135mm lens with it!
Dunno why they are aiming so high?
Still under $1000 right? You just made their point.
Rubi Cisca - Don't be so literal. The problem is indeed that 1000 Dollars is way too wide and it could be almost anything unless it's some kind of highly sought after rare collectible. Maybe they should've made it 500 or even 250. - And by the way, the point was in comparison with a good 1000 Dollar dSLR, but still, there's no point in spending many hundreds on a film-camera, because there are great ones for little money. - So instead of saying "under a thousand" they might as well be saying "any affordable one".
that's japan... i saw japanese fellas come with cases to buy loads leicas in french bievre photo fair, they sell 'em for double back home.
Pentax MX all day, everything you want in a small, affordable body. Tons of lenses in K-mount out there! You can even mount m42 with the adapters Pentax still makes.
Brilliant, classic episode!
He's so on point regarding the Nikon F3
Love the vid! Fan of the JCH site, happy to see film represented here again too. My 6x7 setup has rendered all dslr's puny and cheap. And none of them sound like shotguns!
I think the Nikon FM/FM2/FE cameras in good condition are great buys now in the used 35 mm film SLR market.
Definitely lusting for a Nikon Rangefinder now... 0_0
I really love old cameras and film photography. This video was awesome - informative, interesting...and it made me want to at least visit Hong Kong, if not live there - just for the width and breadth of camera shops around. Drool-worthy!
I'll definitely have to pick up a Pentax 67 at some point.
the vid that made me fall in love and eventually buy the f3. sexiest camera of all time
I miss my F3! I had it stolen in the 1990s. Man that was a heart breaking moment in my life.
Man the watches on these guys. Beautiful.
Nikon´s Fs are great. I love Rolleiflex with a Carl Zeiss lens (Plannar 80mm/2,8 or Plannar 75mm/3,5). Under $1.000 my choice is the Rollei 35 SE if you´re a good and experienced photographer because the camera is a metal box with a great lens.
Great team, those two. Shame they did not shoot more videos like that.
i miss the old digitalrev in general...
Nikon SP in original black is the best choice in Rangefinder area in my opinion. And I have one : )
I have a Nikon FE and an F301. Both cheap (under $100) but very nice. (The FE would be my favorite of the two, I think.)
great now everyone knows where to get them in HK GOD damn it HAHA !!!!!
P.S. can u do more analogrev? While watching this video I am glad to know that my father and uncles have taken very good care of their gear from back when they were young. They passed on pretty much in brand new condition. One of my fav is definitely G2. Completely agree with what they said, it is a camera that cannot be fixed, at least not for cheap. However The quality of this camera, and most of all the lens.... oh my god.... haha The joy of this camera .... actually I would say.. is unlike a leica M3 or sth like that, this camera is like " back to the future". Its not the more advance camera out there, but everything about this camera just makes, even a pro to choose it and use it as a daily camera. It just feels.. different! one of my fav cameras
Submariner and Leica... Bellamy is rich! Even with my love and experience with Fuji Xt1, Leica, Olympus OM and other non menu cameras I thought the F3 was a PITA. For me, F100 or F6 would be easier choices. Retro? Leica iiif... or any Bronica/Mamiya depending on my goals. Cool show and tell and informative.
I finally sold my 67. the 90mm lens can be had with leaf shutter which is soooo important to avoid the slap, otherwise be sure you have the MLU version a must. It just was too heavy for me and it's not a great studio camera as loading film is tedious. Better is the pricer contax 67. but its YUUUUGE
A few days ago at the "braderie de Lille", I found a little Olympus 35 RC working great for 25€! :)
Thanks for doing this DTV. It's really good to know. I wonder where I can shop for mine here in Singapore.
Has to be the longest starting advert on TH-cam!
Canon AE-1 and AE-1 Program with a rangefinder system plus the 50mm 1.8?
Raider135135 Good cameras
AE-1 with a rangefinder system? what do you mean?
@@kareemcantdraw5166 : Maybe he means split-image focussing screen.
So many camera shops in hong kong..
I've seen a few shops in NY. Flusington
I am going there in a few weeks. Hope I can find something I like.
come to hong kong :P
No mention of the Canon T90? Top of the line film SLR from the pre-autofocus era! Automatic filmtransport, up to 4000/s shutter speed, 4.5 frames per second, advanced light metering, and a wide array of affordable FD Lenses to go with it. You can even get the body for under 200$