The updates have turned a great bike into an incredible bike. Triumph clearly listened to their punters and firmly put the 900 RP back at the top of the want list.
Ive been looking at these for some time now, I haven't ridden in years but have the passion back again, after your review I'm just about sold :) thanks for the informative viewing :)
Beautiful riding area. When I was young and buying my own new bikes I got a 1977 Yamaha XS 750 C triple. Then all air-cooled shaft driven street bike supposed to be the BMW twin replacement from Japan. It did well. Smooth triple with 67 HP and very tractable ride. Hard to imagine a modern machine with about double the HP close to same weight, it was 525 lbs. with all the modern features for off-road adventure and 48 mpg. Great production Dave and Clubby. Look forward to some big distance and a longer film. Thanks mates.
Another MAD TV hit - thorough, informative and entertaining. I must say the choices in the middleweight adventure category are numerous with something available to meet the needs of a wide range of riders.
Thanks for the reviews..had finalized T900 GT.. but after this, I decided to head for the rally pro..in GT if u accessorize it, it turns out to b at rally price range.. Thanks a ton More miles ❤from 🇮🇳
Thanks for a great, informative review. I got a lot of useful information out of it. I test drove a used, two year old Tiger Rally Pro at my local dealership recently, and really like it. This will probably be my next motorcycle purchase.
Many of those roads are similar to what you find where you guys come from, but not as consistent in grip. Watch Barry Way if you do it, so so so so many bikes have come unstuck on that road,
Yeah same here. Too big, the fuel economy is not good enough for me, VStrom 650 will do 500km on 20L with a gentle right hand. Too expensive. Too heavy. (As is my wee). But perfect for many I’m sure.
There is a huge difference between Off Road and Off Road Pro and even in Off Road you will need to stop if you have modified settings. Don't believe me, listen to the Triumph specialist at the end of the video.
Great review Guys. I agree with the problematic mode switching (as a Owner of a 2020 model). The short going through a water crossing into the bush was spectacular, hoping no injuries. I really enjoy all of the comentary. 👍😁
for switching from off road pro to road mode, you can hold the mode button for a few seconds and it will do it on the fly. You just can't go from road to off road.
I own a 2023 rally pro and do this all the time, so unless they have actually removed this feature for the 2024 it should still work.@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
Thanks guys… another great share… Agree rider mode needs to be adjustable on the fly… and if they just get suspension a little more dialled in for the gravel they would have a absolute beauty… We travelled through Africa from Cape Town to Cairo back in 2011 and a mate rode the very first generation 800XC and the bike did not give a single problem… no doubt in reliability or quality of the machine’s Triumph build
Feels like the norden 901 expedition has the same level of equipment and accessories as standard and the ride modes are able to be changed on the fly. Also the WP suspension a better option on the Expedition. Great review as always!
Another awesome, comprehensive and totally informative review. Thanks legends. So, now my only question is "how does it compare on road and off road to the Norden 901??". I have narrowed it down to those two and only those two! Give me your insights lads!
Great review, that ash grey tiger is a stunner. Love my 21 gt pro, but a new rally pro would probably be more versatile especially here in NZ. Keep up the good work
Greetings from Washington, DC! Thanks for all of the informative and entertaining content! I’m on the fence between the Tiger and the Tuareg. If it was gonna be your only bike for the next few years, which of the two would you take? Both of the reviews you did were great. Safe travels.
i don't care one bit for these bikes, unbelievable machines but simply too big and too much cash but thanks for the great as always video - great channel
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I seen the 2025 models at a dealership nearby of both the 1200 and 900 versions back around mid July but the salesman that was in was not very knowledgable about Triumph so she could not tell me what was new for 2025.
What you’re saying is wrong that is not the case with the Rally Pro when turning traction control and abs of the rear. Even the Triumph mechanic tells the audience this. Your correct between other modes but not those ones
Stuck deciding between this with the trek package and the bmw f 900 gs advantage with the premium package and 3 piece panniers. Leaning more towards the BMW.
Any chance you guys could maybe do a follow up test demonstrating how effortlessly this bike handles some knarly off road conditions when things turn wet & muddy. Much as we’d all love to do a long way round type on/off road adventure in the dry only, unfortunately the weather doesn’t always co-operate 😊
It was a hoot to ride. I really rate it. Price is keen, so suspension could be upgraded for those who like to ride hard. Engine is ssooooooo goooooddd.
Great job. I wonder why today we have to spend 5K on electronics just to shut them off. This is ridiculous. If a pro can’t race with the automatic settings than they’re not worth it, as beginners should anyway be careful on and offroad and if they need assistance they could opt for the addition of those features. I need no ABS or TC for anything up to approx. 100hp, maybe a rain/off-road mode limiting the engine power to 70hp (one-button solution) and done, or get a lower power machine for off-roading. I know the market is what it is, and gimmicks, useful or not are nice, but not if they move the weight, complexity and cost up substantially. I totally understand that safety features are today’s must have, I get along with that. But in reality, what saved me in critical locations was the chassis capabilities (solidity, suspension, stability) of the bike, not the electronics (never did ABS rescue me, or TC even though they got active, the situations weren’t critical then, never as critical as on my bikes without all that, where the bike’s stability handled it). I’m not against electronics, but I’m against electronics that are so good that in the end I have to turn them off, what?? NO! Either make them work in complex terrain and hard use or keep them crap out.
So either make the electronics unrealistically intuitive, or don't have them at all? That's a bit unreasonable. If you want a simple motorcycle, get a Africa Twin or Tenere. They have so little power you realistically dont need electronic intervention aside from ABS and TC. Triumph can't just let people yeet themselves into oblivion with 150hp/95tq. They always design their bikes so beginners can ride them. Even the Rocket 3 has enough electronic intervention to keep beginners safe. Its always been up to the rider to utilize features. If I'm paying north of $20k for this bike, they better give me the ability to tune and tweak every little feature in there. I don't want the motorcycle to do the adjusting for me, that would be ridiculous. We already have auto-adjusting suspention in certain bikes and the results are meh. Just my take on it
ABS is on all bikes. These days in Australia at least youcan't have a bike that switched it completely off. It's just as as it is going to get. @@jayd3931
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV really? It has been reported by many owners of the previous gen model. They say it's silky smooth in town, but becomes rather harsh on highway speeds(120+ kph)
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV awesome hopefully you can get one soon, also be good to see you guys review the new GS1300 aswell 🤗 thanks boys safe riding 👍
See that's he difference between a fully equipped engineered bike and one that is derived from parts bins off street bikes. You can go out and just ride it. RTW capable right off the showroom floor. Whereas with others we have and like you have to spend a fortune getting them road/trail ready. Foot pegs, rubber on a noisy centerstand, set of dialed in for weight fork springs. You haven't spent $500 USD in upgrades. I more than doubled the price of my Tenere T700, way more than double. It's mine. I really like it but it took deep pockets. Money that could have been used in visa fees, gasoline RTW.
I think they've given it a really good crack. The price point is really keen. Time will tell if they can prize people away from their brand loyalties, some of which don't make any sense when you consider standard accessories on this bike, it's engine and handling. I'd hate to be in that room with the bean counters, engineers, PR consultants and riders. They know they need on the fly ride mode change but that chip is expensive and that rear shock should be the next level spec, but that would push the price up a couple of grand. They've done really well. It is a lively bike to ride.
Another great review Dave and Clubby, I looked at the 2023 model and a few things threw me off, I wanted to wait to see the Norden 901 Expedition to compare. I think for the price it's Very competitive packed with festires as you say, I am definitely not a fan of stopping to change from off-road to road modes, I think a faster on the fly switch mode needs to happen, how rhey can say it's a safety reason, blows my mind because changing on the fly easily surely has to be safer in constantly changing terrain. Why is it so hard for any manufacturer to just get it right for the basic needs for suspension, tyres, backlit switch gear, windscreens, lighting, protection, fuel economy, comfort, ergos, etc they seem to get most things very well done but seem to miss some of the little things that can make the difference between buying and walking away at times. It is competitive, and yes very difficult to cater for a wide range of riders, so lets hope they take note from your reviews and make updates that make them market leaders. I would love to see how they perform in wet conditions and how difficult they are to puck up after a stack. Is the seat height adjustable? It would jave also been nice to see how good/bad the headlights/driving lights are too. Certainly not complaining about the in deptg review, just my opinion. 😉 The rear suspension certainly needs some more work, mods etc, maybe Clive Ward can work some magic there. We all want a bike that you can we can ride off rhe showroom floor without having to spend thousands on extra options etc I think Triumph have done a remarkable job apart from a few minor dislikes. 👍😎👏🇦🇺
Seat height is adjustable we mention that and have the Triumph tech expert Sean demonstrate adjustment. Normally I do headlights but didn't get around to it. Rear suspension was OK, but I agree with you. I think Triumph have done a brilliant job for the value. And when you think about it, if they included an 'on the fly' chip and fully adjustable rear suspension, that would be an additional $1,500 AU, I reckon.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV yes I agree, I guess from a price point they have to be competitive also, I would expect decent suspension and brakes front and rear from any manufacturer, KTM Group can manage it, suspension mods can be expensive so the best starting point is the obvious choice for any serious rider. Realistically unless the rear is electronic it should be fairly reasonable to upgrade wouldn't you say? Valving, spring rates, oil, maybe more adjustability. You guys have certainly done a great job in your reviews that's for sure mate. Thanks again. 👍😉😎👏👏👏
I took it from the review that the rear was ok but maybe would benefit from a slightly stiffer progressive spring based upon your weight and speed. Was I wrong? I have a 24 RP sitting in the garage right now awaiting for the snow to disappear. I only rode it home (20 miles) and checked out all the various settings to make sure they worked...looking forward to getting some seat time.
Great review, I think I need to get a test ride, as for having to stop to change modes, while it is annoying for you guys down under, it's ok for me, although I don't think the young chap understood what you were on about Dave....but having worked at a triumph dealership a few years ago, most of their electronics are a bit on the nanny side....🤦😅, can't wait for the next video 👍👍
@MADTV - You have stumped me now. I had gone from Tiger to 901 for my end of year upgrade plans based off your 901 reviews...and now the Tiger is back in the running. Which of the two do you prefer if you had to pick for multi-day, 8-12 hour day rides predominantly off the black top in typical Aussie conditions IE easy to moderate technical difficulty? Regarding comparison to the WR, and I know you both love your Teneres. My 5 cents is I would not put World Raid in the same arena as the 900s like N901, KTM890 and Tiger900. The WR is overweight for a 700 when you look at the streamlined weights some of the 900s are coming in at now and grossly under-powered compared to the 900s. And for touring mileage I'd rather be sitting on a 901 or Tiger vs a WR all day, day after day Keep the Tenere 700s where they belong- competing with the likes of the Husky 701.
it's looking like the pick of the bunch, unfortunately i'm a multistrada 1260 enduro tragic, and for future reference let it be known that it's the variable cam mechanism that appears to be sticking and needs attention, hopefully with a some slight linishing of the mechanism internals it should be good to go, and 42 bolts to access the air filter is fair... @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
I have a 2019 800 XCx and love the bike however the lack of rake in the front forks really is the thing that holds this bike back in my opinion. If the bike had 27 degrees of rake rather than 24 I would be able to find no faults at all. I see they have increased the rake by one half of a degree... :(
I don't think your correct if in the Offroad Pro Mode. You must stop, going in, or out of it. Have a listen to the Triumph specialist at the end of the video explaining this in detail.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV My EU 2021 i can go from off road modes to road with just holding the mode button down for a few seconds when riding. For going into any off road mode i have to stop. Mayby it is a region thing?
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I can still go from Off Road Pro to Road with just holding down the mode button without stopping, but not from Road to Off Road or Off Road Pro mode.
Great video fellas as always. I just bought one of these! The first thing to go are the street orientated tyres. What tyres were on your bikes and how did you rate them?
As mentioned, no mode change on the fly is a major miss by Triumph - it would be stopping me from purchasing. It also seems to be more a 'soft off-roader'. Backlit switch-gear is great, but not enough to sway me, which is a real shame, because otherwise it looks and sounds like a great bike. I wish you 'dropped' it and then attempted to pick it up to see what the weight was like...
There's a shit load of goodies on this bike for the price. All useful. I would described Centre of Gravity as slightly lower than a standard T7. The T7s are difficult to pick up if they fall flat. I would imagine this bike would be the same. I'd be asking my mate to give me a hand.
@@aky141 lmao i see these comments all the time. "this one little thing stopped me from buying this bike" -someone who had no intention of buying one anyway 😂
You can go from either off-road to any "road mode" without stopping. It's only going from an on-road to an off-road where you must stop. So it's 'half-the-stops' that most reviewers mistakenly state. FWIW.
I think we are at or past peak electronics on a dirt friendly bike. I run my 22 690 on map 2 which gives front abs and none on the back wheel. Its changeable while riding and I have done repeated hard braking tests and I leave it there. I don't miss the extra 60kg that this bike has to lug either.
Been looking at this bike for a while now. Been all over the place on the 900GT Pro for a few years and would now love to get off the tarmac. This was such a great review; such a pleasure to watch, it was so informative, thanks. It would be so good to view the course you took. Care to explain it in detail? Even better if you could somehow share the file [.fit / .tcx /.gpx] if you have one ? Thanks again T
You can swear all you want. That's not what I experienced. My observations confirmed by the Triumph Expert. As I said to a couple don't mix the Off Road mode with the Off Road Pro mode. They are completely different.
Good question! I really rate the 800DE, great engine. You really need to ride both and get a calculator out. Look how much you get on the Triumph. Suspension is better on the Triump I felt.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I should have been more specific. I think the engine would be amazing, the stopping to change modes is what breaks the deal.
@@pinkiewerewolf I own the 23 1200 Rally Explorer.. you can shift between modes, with the exception of going into or out of the off road modes. Unsure why it's set up like this, perhaps for safety reasons?
@@vailmcc Sometimes companies need to forget about over protecting us. It’s becoming a big issue in many areas. Just let us ride the bikes and take responsibility for ourselves.
I'm keep getting these questions of a similar vain. From my perspective they are too close to call for a whole range of reasons that would take a 10,000 word essay to explain. Listen to my reviews and then go ride them for yourself.
I have the ‘23 1200 which I love but yes you have to fully stop to change between road and off-road modes which drives me crazy and is enough to make me not want to buy the Tiger again. Come on Triumph, get serious!!
I think the frustration is not recognised. During this ride we went tar to dirt dirt to tar about five times in the hour. I wasn't going to stop, and I wasn't going to ride on the dirt in road mode. It left me no option but to keep going.
How does it compare to the 800DE in weight feel? Numbers are about the same... I don't think the DE doesn't feel as top heavy as a lot of the competitors.
@@NicePantsLance Of course it is. Completely. I don't really know what you are talking about. Could you please clarify? Or do you mean that the AT is one class above?
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Ride 50-100 km on highways and mountain serpentines to reach the off-road (dirt roads, farm fields and forest trails), have fun and enjoyment, with beautiful views and then return).
My problem with triumph motorcycles is : reliability... I've seen a lot of people having issues with this brand...I don't know , I wouldn't feel comfortable taking this bike around the world, just because of that.
I think having to stop to change that mode setting is a good thing. Even looking down at the screen for three seconds means you can travel 100m without looking where you are going. All eyes should be looking ahead. Not so much safety as common sense!
Here in the UK at the moment they are struggling to get the stock with months of waiting for customers, what are you thoughts on the Standard Honda AT with AS instead ?
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I recall your review of the last models of the AT were favorable. Here in the uk the standard gets the bigger Screen like the Sports and the tubeless wheels on the standard and sports gets the 19” front wheel for 2024.
I currently own a 2018 tiger 800xrt and the engine heat even on the open road is so bad i'm considering selling the bike. Were you aware of significant engine heat during this review?
No. I did pay specific attention to that. I wasn't excessive but was there. I didn't fell it detracted from the riding experience either on road through suburban traffic or doing tight bush stuff.
I noticed that there was no mention of the weight of the bike. Is it top heavy or like a KTM? Will you have any videos coming out about the new BMW 1300 or the vest you don’t appear to be using any longer?
Yeah forgot to mention weight. Not that important to me really as anything over 200 Kg isn't pleasant if it falls on you. 228 kg without fuel. That said what is important is centre of gravity and it felt similar to, although slightly lower than a Yamaha T7, which is a little top heavy.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Hey Dave, thinking back to your review of the Tuareg, it feels like it has a lower CoG as well, and it feels heaps lighter than the T7. Is the 900RP similar in that regard, compared to the T7?
I was thinking about the same 2 bikes. Bought a standard 23 Norden on clearance. 6K less expensive than a 24 ralley pro. Even if I feel it is necessary to upgrade the rear shock, I'm over 4K ahead.
20:53 So which one of you did all the jumping and wheelies in this vid? 25 990 You say for technology of this century. Meanwhile URAL (ex CCCP) will charge you 38 000 for a motorcycle that was invented in 1960. They can stick those disc brakes and LED lights on it, but it's still a motorcycle from the last century that's safe to rock at 40 km/h...go for Triumph boys and girls 👍👍
Great video,great test. But i will never buy a Triumph. Every rider i know with a Triumph had ride ending problems. A buddy of me also has the new model and on the highway last week the bike just shut down, and didn't start anymore. So no thnx.
Is this fair to Triumph? How many riders do you know that own one, because every person that I've spoken to with a Triumph has been very happy with it.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Well, i might have come over as a bit of a douche. But what i am trying to say is that Triumph doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to reliability. One of my friends has his 3rd tiger. Even tho the previous 2 were nothing but problems. (electrical problems). So i think it is more about brand loyalty. And i think we all have a bit of that " loyalty" to the brand we have under our but. And seeing multiple Triumphs give up on rides, i just don't trust them.
Hey Dave, the ol' 'top heavy' question when at a stand still.... did you notice it anymore or less than its more offroad biased competitors? I doubt this would've changed in the update?
I could kick myself. I edited out my comments on centre of gravity, I felt my 'live' wouldn't connect with most of the audience, I described centre of gravity as slightly lower than a standard T7. Unfortunately, I forgot to go back when I was writing the script. Oh well.
I watched your video even though I will never buy that bike. It's too strong, too tall and too heavy for my needs. Of course, too expensive for my income... I like the look, sound and cushioning. I'm thinking about something that doesn't weigh more than 150 kg. My current horse is 180 kg and after back surgery, it's too much when he has to get up off the ground.... 130 kg would be ideal. 👍
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I'm in Europe. Maybe something like a honda cb 200x. We have to put performance aside when we have a lifting limit of 10 kg. My backpack is limited to a maximum of 10 kg, maybe Rucus will be the only light at the end of the tunnel. Greetings from Croatia.
most likely a little although i do use the torque of the engine, there is not much sand in alot of the areas I ride. Although a recent ride showed 6.5 lts to the 100 and end of ride it returned to 5. Thats across 50/50 mix wet and dry. I do try to stay smooth on the wrist but I did come from a ktm 500 excf @@AussieDazza
The bike itself looks amazing and the price for what you get is hard to beat. BUT, Triumphs digital instruments are really poor, the graphics look like they're from 2005 with metal highlights everywhere and the whole system is just slow and has a frame rate of like 5. Not good enough in 2024 imo.
Can’t understand why every year these bikes become more of a Nanny state … riders have more trouble just staying on the right side of the road on dirt tracks than any issue this over bearing technical garbage solves.
I don't know for sure... I did buy a 24 900 RP. But I was told the rebound adjustment was a dual compression/rebound circuit with prescribed boundaries if that makes sense.
@@charlesodonnell4214 , in some way it is, i think the compression and rebound are 2 ways to adjust oil speed ínside same circuit, still i think at this price point its not acceptable not having a dedicated compression adjustment. Good luck with the bike, looks very good, i had a Triumph Daytona 955i some years ago and it was a disaster when it comes to reliability, even the whole eletric circuit had to be replaced. Hope Triumph has learned something in the meanwhile.
Great video. as always Dave!! Today I've tryed the new tiger and i loved it. Next week i'm gonna try the desertx. Which one would you recommend between the two? Cheers
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTVThank you so much for the response! I would like a more powerful and enjoyable motorcycle compared to my T7, and one that gives me a more 'exciting' feeling on the road (I typically use the motorcycle 70% on-road and 30% off-road).
The updates have turned a great bike into an incredible bike. Triumph clearly listened to their punters and firmly put the 900 RP back at the top of the want list.
I agree, it's a lovely bike to ride.
Ive been looking at these for some time now, I haven't ridden in years but have the passion back again, after your review I'm just about sold :) thanks for the informative viewing :)
It's a great bike packed with features for the price.
Beautiful riding area. When I was young and buying my own new bikes I got a 1977 Yamaha XS 750 C triple. Then all air-cooled shaft driven street bike supposed to be the BMW twin replacement from Japan. It did well. Smooth triple with 67 HP and very tractable ride. Hard to imagine a modern machine with about double the HP close to same weight, it was 525 lbs. with all the modern features for off-road adventure and 48 mpg. Great production Dave and Clubby. Look forward to some big distance and a longer film. Thanks mates.
Thanks Sam.
the friendship you have with clubby is admirable.
Another MAD TV hit - thorough, informative and entertaining. I must say the choices in the middleweight adventure category are numerous with something available to meet the needs of a wide range of riders.
And we haven't seen the BMW900 yet, which is supposed to be a cracker.
Good to see you again Dave, love watching your travels . Thank you for the video's
Glad you like them! Tell your friends.
Thanks for the reviews..had finalized T900 GT.. but after this, I decided to head for the rally pro..in GT if u accessorize it, it turns out to b at rally price range..
Thanks a ton
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Good choice
Thanks for a great, informative review.
I got a lot of useful information out of it.
I test drove a used, two year old Tiger Rally Pro at my local dealership recently, and really like it.
This will probably be my next motorcycle purchase.
Glad it helped. I love the handling and engine of that bike
Great review guys ! 10 of us heading to Victoria and Tassie early April from Wānaka NZ and some of those gravel roads looked amazing !!
Many of those roads are similar to what you find where you guys come from, but not as consistent in grip. Watch Barry Way if you do it, so so so so many bikes have come unstuck on that road,
thanks Dave. Not interested in this bike, but always instructive to hear you and clubby talk about bikes!
Thanks. Bikes are good fun at the end of the day.
Yeah same here. Too big, the fuel economy is not good enough for me, VStrom 650 will do 500km on 20L with a gentle right hand. Too expensive. Too heavy. (As is my wee). But perfect for many I’m sure.
growing market for that size and weight....lots of competition ....great review.
Thanks for watching!
You can change from off Rd to Rd on the fly by holding the mode button, Need to stop to change back into off Rd though.
There is a huge difference between Off Road and Off Road Pro and even in Off Road you will need to stop if you have modified settings. Don't believe me, listen to the Triumph specialist at the end of the video.
Great review Guys. I agree with the problematic mode switching (as a Owner of a 2020 model). The short going through a water crossing into the bush was spectacular, hoping no injuries. I really enjoy all of the comentary. 👍😁
Thanks Bob. I think it's a solid competitor in this end of the market. LOVE that engine.
These guys are so entertaining. Wonderful looking bike.
Thank you. We try to be and not always successful.
Nice review thanks.
for switching from off road pro to road mode, you can hold the mode button for a few seconds and it will do it on the fly. You just can't go from road to off road.
You are getting off road pro mixed up with off road. You are wrong, please listen to the TRIUMPH EXPERT (shouting) at the end of the video.
I own a 2023 rally pro and do this all the time, so unless they have actually removed this feature for the 2024 it should still work.@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
Thanks guys… another great share…
Agree rider mode needs to be adjustable on the fly… and if they just get suspension a little more dialled in for the gravel they would have a absolute beauty…
We travelled through Africa from Cape Town to Cairo back in 2011 and a mate rode the very first generation 800XC and the bike did not give a single problem… no doubt in reliability or quality of the machine’s Triumph build
Thanks
Feels like the norden 901 expedition has the same level of equipment and accessories as standard and the ride modes are able to be changed on the fly. Also the WP suspension a better option on the Expedition. Great review as always!
I would agree. I think the Triumph engine and screen beat the Norden Expedition. But they are so close when you consider price.
Another awesome, comprehensive and totally informative review. Thanks legends. So, now my only question is "how does it compare on road and off road to the Norden 901??". I have narrowed it down to those two and only those two! Give me your insights lads!
Too close to call. The Triumph engine is amazing as is the ergos. The Norden expedition has amazing suspension and traction control.
Great review, that ash grey tiger is a stunner. Love my 21 gt pro, but a new rally pro would probably be more versatile especially here in NZ. Keep up the good work
Totally agree
Greetings from Washington, DC! Thanks for all of the informative and entertaining content!
I’m on the fence between the Tiger and the Tuareg. If it was gonna be your only bike for the next few years, which of the two would you take? Both of the reviews you did were great. Safe travels.
that's in your hands. To close to call. YOu need to know exactly what you want. You can't go wrong with either of them.
i don't care one bit for these bikes, unbelievable machines but simply too big and too much cash but thanks for the great as always video - great channel
Fair enough!
Nice testing and review of reality.
Now, the 2025 models are out. I am waiting........
They haven't changed much, so I'm not sure we'll be doing it.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV OK, but do you know what is the differences? Is it only color?
@@magnusb6311 Not sure but not much.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I seen the 2025 models at a dealership nearby of both the 1200 and 900 versions back around mid July but the salesman that was in was not very knowledgable about Triumph so she could not tell me what was new for 2025.
To change modes on the fly ... change mode then roll off accelerator and pull in clutch...this will activate the mode of choice on the fly.
What you’re saying is wrong that is not the case with the Rally Pro when turning traction control and abs of the rear. Even the Triumph mechanic tells the audience this. Your correct between other modes but not those ones
I ride corrected 😅
Stuck deciding between this with the trek package and the bmw f 900 gs advantage with the premium package and 3 piece panniers. Leaning more towards the BMW.
Triumph rose from ash from building pos to one of the finest and extremely relibale bikes on the market...
Agree. They're definitely lifting.
this bike is so beautyful,thanks. I will buy it
Good choice!
Good review guys.
Glad you enjoyed it
Any chance you guys could maybe do a follow up test demonstrating how effortlessly this bike handles some knarly off road conditions when things turn wet & muddy. Much as we’d all love to do a long way round type on/off road adventure in the dry only, unfortunately the weather doesn’t always co-operate 😊
Sorry mate, not happening. There's a lot on this year.
23:06 I wish Yamaha would make a 900 cc tenere world raid, that would show everything up .
I can't see that happening Cliff.
Great review guys as always. It has a lot more standard than my 890adv R but the suspension sounds to soft for me. Otherwise sounds like a fun bike.
It was a hoot to ride. I really rate it. Price is keen, so suspension could be upgraded for those who like to ride hard. Engine is ssooooooo goooooddd.
Great review! Any comment on heat management. Does it still direct all the hot air to rider's legs?
Yes in that direction obviously, but wasn't too bad.
Would like to know where the outside temps are hot 🥵
Great job. I wonder why today we have to spend 5K on electronics just to shut them off. This is ridiculous. If a pro can’t race with the automatic settings than they’re not worth it, as beginners should anyway be careful on and offroad and if they need assistance they could opt for the addition of those features.
I need no ABS or TC for anything up to approx. 100hp, maybe a rain/off-road mode limiting the engine power to 70hp (one-button solution) and done, or get a lower power machine for off-roading. I know the market is what it is, and gimmicks, useful or not are nice, but not if they move the weight, complexity and cost up substantially.
I totally understand that safety features are today’s must have, I get along with that. But in reality, what saved me in critical locations was the chassis capabilities (solidity, suspension, stability) of the bike, not the electronics (never did ABS rescue me, or TC even though they got active, the situations weren’t critical then, never as critical as on my bikes without all that, where the bike’s stability handled it).
I’m not against electronics, but I’m against electronics that are so good that in the end I have to turn them off, what?? NO! Either make them work in complex terrain and hard use or keep them crap out.
Good points.
So either make the electronics unrealistically intuitive, or don't have them at all? That's a bit unreasonable. If you want a simple motorcycle, get a Africa Twin or Tenere. They have so little power you realistically dont need electronic intervention aside from ABS and TC. Triumph can't just let people yeet themselves into oblivion with 150hp/95tq. They always design their bikes so beginners can ride them. Even the Rocket 3 has enough electronic intervention to keep beginners safe.
Its always been up to the rider to utilize features. If I'm paying north of $20k for this bike, they better give me the ability to tune and tweak every little feature in there. I don't want the motorcycle to do the adjusting for me, that would be ridiculous. We already have auto-adjusting suspention in certain bikes and the results are meh. Just my take on it
ABS is mandatory in many places. So it has to be included.
ABS is on all bikes. These days in Australia at least youcan't have a bike that switched it completely off. It's just as as it is going to get. @@jayd3931
Cam Donald. Respect!
Agree. Brilliant rider.
Hello guys! Great review, but what about engine vibrations? You missed this topic completely.
What about it? There isn't any. It wasn't missed, they aren't there!
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV really? It has been reported by many owners of the previous gen model. They say it's silky smooth in town, but becomes rather harsh on highway speeds(120+ kph)
Hopefully you guys can get your hands on the new BMW F900 GS enduro id love to here your feedback
We are working on that as we speak.
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV awesome hopefully you can get one soon, also be good to see you guys review the new GS1300 aswell 🤗 thanks boys safe riding 👍
Let's just wait and see and cross our fingers. @@Tjames579
See that's he difference between a fully equipped engineered bike and one that is derived from parts bins off street bikes. You can go out and just ride it. RTW capable right off the showroom floor. Whereas with others we have and like you have to spend a fortune getting them road/trail ready. Foot pegs, rubber on a noisy centerstand, set of dialed in for weight fork springs. You haven't spent $500 USD in upgrades. I more than doubled the price of my Tenere T700, way more than double. It's mine. I really like it but it took deep pockets. Money that could have been used in visa fees, gasoline RTW.
Good points. With the R & D with Rally Raid Products it took us about 18 months to get the forks right.
Triumph have produced a good bike here for the masses.Thanks for the test.
I think they've given it a really good crack. The price point is really keen. Time will tell if they can prize people away from their brand loyalties, some of which don't make any sense when you consider standard accessories on this bike, it's engine and handling. I'd hate to be in that room with the bean counters, engineers, PR consultants and riders. They know they need on the fly ride mode change but that chip is expensive and that rear shock should be the next level spec, but that would push the price up a couple of grand. They've done really well. It is a lively bike to ride.
Another great review Dave and Clubby, I looked at the 2023 model and a few things threw me off, I wanted to wait to see the Norden 901 Expedition to compare.
I think for the price it's Very competitive packed with festires as you say, I am definitely not a fan of stopping to change from off-road to road modes, I think a faster on the fly switch mode needs to happen, how rhey can say it's a safety reason, blows my mind because changing on the fly easily surely has to be safer in constantly changing terrain.
Why is it so hard for any manufacturer to just get it right for the basic needs for suspension, tyres, backlit switch gear, windscreens, lighting, protection, fuel economy, comfort, ergos, etc they seem to get most things very well done but seem to miss some of the little things that can make the difference between buying and walking away at times.
It is competitive, and yes very difficult to cater for a wide range of riders, so lets hope they take note from your reviews and make updates that make them market leaders. I would love to see how they perform in wet conditions and how difficult they are to puck up after a stack. Is the seat height adjustable? It would jave also been nice to see how good/bad the headlights/driving lights are too.
Certainly not complaining about the in deptg review, just my opinion. 😉
The rear suspension certainly needs some more work, mods etc, maybe Clive Ward can work some magic there.
We all want a bike that you can we can ride off rhe showroom floor without having to spend thousands on extra options etc
I think Triumph have done a remarkable job apart from a few minor dislikes. 👍😎👏🇦🇺
Seat height is adjustable we mention that and have the Triumph tech expert Sean demonstrate adjustment. Normally I do headlights but didn't get around to it. Rear suspension was OK, but I agree with you. I think Triumph have done a brilliant job for the value. And when you think about it, if they included an 'on the fly' chip and fully adjustable rear suspension, that would be an additional $1,500 AU, I reckon.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV yes I agree, I guess from a price point they have to be competitive also, I would expect decent suspension and brakes front and rear from any manufacturer, KTM Group can manage it, suspension mods can be expensive so the best starting point is the obvious choice for any serious rider. Realistically unless the rear is electronic it should be fairly reasonable to upgrade wouldn't you say? Valving, spring rates, oil, maybe more adjustability.
You guys have certainly done a great job in your reviews that's for sure mate. Thanks again. 👍😉😎👏👏👏
The Brakes are AMAZING, a true cut above the rest, just brilliant. @@ScottSillis
I took it from the review that the rear was ok but maybe would benefit from a slightly stiffer progressive spring based upon your weight and speed. Was I wrong?
I have a 24 RP sitting in the garage right now awaiting for the snow to disappear. I only rode it home (20 miles) and checked out all the various settings to make sure they worked...looking forward to getting some seat time.
Great review, I think I need to get a test ride, as for having to stop to change modes, while it is annoying for you guys down under, it's ok for me, although I don't think the young chap understood what you were on about Dave....but having worked at a triumph dealership a few years ago, most of their electronics are a bit on the nanny side....🤦😅, can't wait for the next video 👍👍
Thanks. Lots of interesting stuff this year. The calendar is all ready about booked.
@MADTV - You have stumped me now. I had gone from Tiger to 901 for my end of year upgrade plans based off your 901 reviews...and now the Tiger is back in the running. Which of the two do you prefer if you had to pick for multi-day, 8-12 hour day rides predominantly off the black top in typical Aussie conditions IE easy to moderate technical difficulty?
Regarding comparison to the WR, and I know you both love your Teneres. My 5 cents is I would not put World Raid in the same arena as the 900s like N901, KTM890 and Tiger900. The WR is overweight for a 700 when you look at the streamlined weights some of the 900s are coming in at now and grossly under-powered compared to the 900s. And for touring mileage I'd rather be sitting on a 901 or Tiger vs a WR all day, day after day
Keep the Tenere 700s where they belong- competing with the likes of the Husky 701.
901 Norden.
the lads are making a sale
A great bike.
it's looking like the pick of the bunch, unfortunately i'm a multistrada 1260 enduro tragic, and for future reference let it be known that it's the variable cam mechanism that appears to be sticking and needs attention, hopefully with a some slight linishing of the mechanism internals it should be good to go, and 42 bolts to access the air filter is fair... @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
Honda Africa twin (2024 manual ) is also there to pinch the race.
Agree
I have a 2019 800 XCx and love the bike however the lack of rake in the front forks really is the thing that holds this bike back in my opinion. If the bike had 27 degrees of rake rather than 24 I would be able to find no faults at all. I see they have increased the rake by one half of a degree... :(
Thanks for that.
You can adjust the preload front on the Tiger.
If you max it out on the front, and dump the rear, you will get another rake.
It is in the manual.
Thanks mate. @@riechristiansen9565
27 degrees?@@riechristiansen9565
You have to stop to go from road to off-road but can go back the other way by pressing the mode button for 3 seconds
I don't think your correct if in the Offroad Pro Mode. You must stop, going in, or out of it. Have a listen to the Triumph specialist at the end of the video explaining this in detail.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV My EU 2021 i can go from off road modes to road with just holding the mode button down for a few seconds when riding.
For going into any off road mode i have to stop.
Mayby it is a region thing?
There is a big difference between Off Road Pro and Off Road. When I tested the 22 it couldn't do it either. @@Kimsand520
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I can still go from Off Road Pro to Road with just holding down the mode button without stopping, but not from Road to Off Road or Off Road Pro mode.
I own a 2021 Rally Pro and it works that way with mine. Use it all the time
Great video fellas as always. I just bought one of these! The first thing to go are the street orientated tyres. What tyres were on your bikes and how did you rate them?
Metzler Karoo. Clubby talks about them at the end.
As mentioned, no mode change on the fly is a major miss by Triumph - it would be stopping me from purchasing. It also seems to be more a 'soft off-roader'. Backlit switch-gear is great, but not enough to sway me, which is a real shame, because otherwise it looks and sounds like a great bike. I wish you 'dropped' it and then attempted to pick it up to see what the weight was like...
There's a shit load of goodies on this bike for the price. All useful. I would described Centre of Gravity as slightly lower than a standard T7. The T7s are difficult to pick up if they fall flat. I would imagine this bike would be the same. I'd be asking my mate to give me a hand.
Id more say mild to minor inconvenience
@@aky141 It wouldn't stop me buying the bike.
@@aky141 lmao i see these comments all the time.
"this one little thing stopped me from buying this bike" -someone who had no intention of buying one anyway 😂
You can go from either off-road to any "road mode" without stopping. It's only going from an on-road to an off-road where you must stop. So it's 'half-the-stops' that most reviewers mistakenly state. FWIW.
I think we are at or past peak electronics on a dirt friendly bike. I run my 22 690 on map 2 which gives front abs and none on the back wheel. Its changeable while riding and I have done repeated hard braking tests and I leave it there. I don't miss the extra 60kg that this bike has to lug either.
Triumph have some catching up to do. The challenge is those chips are expensive.
Rake angle on this is 24.6 degrees compared to 28 degrees on the Vstrom 800 DE.
Ta
I own a 24 RP a neat trick to rake out the front is to max the preload on the front and minimise it on the rear
20:48 air box gives you a bloey no wonder you like it Dave 🎉😂🎉
Yep sure does.
Been looking at this bike for a while now. Been all over the place on the 900GT Pro for a few years and would now love to get off the tarmac. This was such a great review; such a pleasure to watch, it was so informative, thanks. It would be so good to view the course you took. Care to explain it in detail? Even better if you could somehow share the file [.fit / .tcx /.gpx] if you have one ? Thanks again T
Sorry Tony we don't give out gpx, but we do provide hints during the video.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV No worries, thanks
Funny...my 2008 Triumph Sprint has that same drive me nuts centerstand slap!
You need a piece of rubber tube.
I swear you can adjust all the modes on the fly you just need to close the throttle to make the selection
You can swear all you want. That's not what I experienced. My observations confirmed by the Triumph Expert. As I said to a couple don't mix the Off Road mode with the Off Road Pro mode. They are completely different.
Great review as usual...in terms of comfort and off road capabilities how does the Suzuki vstrom 800DE stack up against the Tiger?
Good question! I really rate the 800DE, great engine. You really need to ride both and get a calculator out. Look how much you get on the Triumph. Suspension is better on the Triump I felt.
The triple engine is tempting but not enough to sway me away from the KTM 890 Adventure.
I think you need to ride a triple. You'll be surprised by how good it is.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I should have been more specific. I think the engine would be amazing, the stopping to change modes is what breaks the deal.
@@pinkiewerewolf I own the 23 1200 Rally Explorer.. you can shift between modes, with the exception of going into or out of the off road modes. Unsure why it's set up like this, perhaps for safety reasons?
@@vailmcc Sometimes companies need to forget about over protecting us. It’s becoming a big issue in many areas.
Just let us ride the bikes and take responsibility for ourselves.
The Triumph doesn’t have an engine made in China so there’s that.
I can't decide between this or the BMW F 900 GS. Urgh.
What did you decide?
Hi,
Wish one you prefer , tiger rally pro or husky norden 901 expedition?
Great Chanel
Thanks
Too close to call. Depends on what you want to achieve.
Excellent review.
Nice ending 😂
Glad you liked it. I like that techos to finish up.
Thanx for the review ... what motorcycle should one pick between the updated Tiger Rally Pro vs the Desert X
A tough question only you can answer they are both excellent bikes
Have a 23 model. 4 months off road waiting for parts after an off. Would never touch a Triumph again.
That's no good. Parts availability is important.
I just test ride the 24’ tiger rally pro and was surprised by the intense heat roasting my left thigh. Did you experience this?!!
No, I didn't.
How would you compare the 2024 Triumph Tiger Rally Pro to a base model Africa Twin?
I'm keep getting these questions of a similar vain. From my perspective they are too close to call for a whole range of reasons that would take a 10,000 word essay to explain. Listen to my reviews and then go ride them for yourself.
I have the ‘23 1200 which I love but yes you have to fully stop to change between road and off-road modes which drives me crazy and is enough to make me not want to buy the Tiger again. Come on Triumph, get serious!!
I think the frustration is not recognised. During this ride we went tar to dirt dirt to tar about five times in the hour. I wasn't going to stop, and I wasn't going to ride on the dirt in road mode. It left me no option but to keep going.
How does it compare to the 800DE in weight feel? Numbers are about the same...
I don't think the DE doesn't feel as top heavy as a lot of the competitors.
I agree with you. I think it was a tad higher C of G than the 800DE. Mind you, any bike on or around 200 kgs, if it falls on you you're ratshit :)
Great job as always. You totally forgot the Africa Twin as a competitor though.
The Africa Twin isnt even in the same league. Wouldnt make a fair comparison at all
@@NicePantsLance Of course it is. Completely. I don't really know what you are talking about. Could you please clarify? Or do you mean that the AT is one class above?
I think any bike close to or over 200 kg is a competitor so that would include the Africa Twin.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV agreed
cool! tiger 900 vs suzuki 800de best for you?)
Depends, you can't answer that question with Yes or No. They are both great bikes at different price points
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Ride 50-100 km on highways and mountain serpentines to reach the off-road (dirt roads, farm fields and forest trails), have fun and enjoyment, with beautiful views and then return).
Good
Thanks
Perfect bike and I refuse to stop to change modes. It is a huge miss
Yeah.
My problem with triumph motorcycles is : reliability... I've seen a lot of people having issues with this brand...I don't know , I wouldn't feel comfortable taking this bike around the world, just because of that.
I haven't heard of any problems. So how many people do you directly know or have reported some where that are having problems. I'd like to know.
I think having to stop to change that mode setting is a good thing. Even looking down at the screen for three seconds means you can travel 100m without looking where you are going. All eyes should be looking ahead. Not so much safety as common sense!
ON a 12 hour day moving between tar an dirt every twenty to 40 mins is a pain and I just don't do it, eventhough I'd be safer for it.
Are those the standard tyres?
I can't recall.
Great review! Do you know the valve clearance check interval?
Nope
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV 20k
Comparing with 800de, whats you opinion on the suspension, on offroads
The Tiger suspension is better.
Here in the UK at the moment they are struggling to get the stock with months of waiting for customers, what are you thoughts on the Standard Honda AT with AS instead ?
I ride the new model next month, so stand by.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I recall your review of the last models of the AT were favorable. Here in the uk the standard gets the bigger Screen like the Sports and the tubeless wheels on the standard and sports gets the 19” front wheel for 2024.
Would you say the Rally Pro handles as well as GTPRO which i have at the minute but looking at new 2024 Rally Pro
for dirt the Rally Pro has it over the GT
Would mostly be on road & wondered if its as good as GTPRO with passenger but with option for off road
So how does it Compare to the Norden 901 expedition ?
It's really close on everything but the on the fly traction control and the degree of sophistication of that control.
Does it have quick shifter , how is clutch working?
Yes. has quick shifter.
I currently own a 2018 tiger 800xrt and the engine heat even on the open road is so bad i'm considering selling the bike. Were you aware of significant engine heat during this review?
No. I did pay specific attention to that. I wasn't excessive but was there. I didn't fell it detracted from the riding experience either on road through suburban traffic or doing tight bush stuff.
thanks for the feedback...i have no idea why the 18 xrt should be so uncomfortable? @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
i know its all chinese and such, but are you guys going to review Kove and CFmoto allroads to?
Yes when we can get our hands on them
I noticed that there was no mention of the weight of the bike. Is it top heavy or like a KTM? Will you have any videos coming out about the new BMW 1300 or the vest you don’t appear to be using any longer?
Yeah forgot to mention weight. Not that important to me really as anything over 200 Kg isn't pleasant if it falls on you. 228 kg without fuel. That said what is important is centre of gravity and it felt similar to, although slightly lower than a Yamaha T7, which is a little top heavy.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV thanks for the info
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Hey Dave, thinking back to your review of the Tuareg, it feels like it has a lower CoG as well, and it feels heaps lighter than the T7. Is the 900RP similar in that regard, compared to the T7?
Strongly agree. Definitely. @@23DuDe
For me a toss up so far between the Tiger and the Norden.
And there's the 900, just weeks away from hitting Australian shores. I have a feeling that's going to be a real killer
I was thinking about the same 2 bikes. Bought a standard 23 Norden on clearance. 6K less expensive than a 24 ralley pro. Even if I feel it is necessary to upgrade the rear shock, I'm over 4K ahead.
Yeah, they are a good deal at the moment. @@darrylpaterick3108
13:14 that toggle looks a bit suss Dave
Worked well. I'm OK with it, Cliff
is Africa Twin not a competitor?
Yes, For me any bike over 180 KG is a competitor.
20:53
So which one of you did all the jumping and wheelies in this vid? 25 990 You say for technology of this century. Meanwhile URAL (ex CCCP) will charge you 38 000 for a motorcycle that was invented in 1960. They can stick those disc brakes and LED lights on it, but it's still a motorcycle from the last century that's safe to rock at 40 km/h...go for Triumph boys and girls 👍👍
A bloke called Ben Grabham an ex Dakar Racer for KTM.
Great video,great test. But i will never buy a Triumph. Every rider i know with a Triumph had ride ending problems. A buddy of me also has the new model and on the highway last week the bike just shut down, and didn't start anymore. So no thnx.
Is this fair to Triumph? How many riders do you know that own one, because every person that I've spoken to with a Triumph has been very happy with it.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Well, i might have come over as a bit of a douche. But what i am trying to say is that Triumph doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to reliability. One of my friends has his 3rd tiger. Even tho the previous 2 were nothing but problems. (electrical problems). So i think it is more about brand loyalty. And i think we all have a bit of that " loyalty" to the brand we have under our but. And seeing multiple Triumphs give up on rides, i just don't trust them.
Have you looked at other brands lately? Boy oh boy is there some scary stories out there. @@MotoSly
Hey Dave, the ol' 'top heavy' question when at a stand still.... did you notice it anymore or less than its more offroad biased competitors? I doubt this would've changed in the update?
I could kick myself. I edited out my comments on centre of gravity, I felt my 'live' wouldn't connect with most of the audience, I described centre of gravity as slightly lower than a standard T7. Unfortunately, I forgot to go back when I was writing the script. Oh well.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV oh well, just makes for an opportunity for a Shorts vid 🤷🏽♂️
😄@@k_plax
I watched your video even though I will never buy that bike. It's too strong, too tall and too heavy for my needs. Of course, too expensive for my income... I like the look, sound and cushioning. I'm thinking about something that doesn't weigh more than 150 kg. My current horse is 180 kg and after back surgery, it's too much when he has to get up off the ground.... 130 kg would be ideal. 👍
You need a Bajaj 220.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I'm in Europe. Maybe something like a honda cb 200x. We have to put performance aside when we have a lifting limit of 10 kg. My backpack is limited to a maximum of 10 kg, maybe Rucus will be the only light at the end of the tunnel. Greetings from Croatia.
Rally pro 24 or T7 World Raid?
Depends what you want. WR suspension is better, but have a look at the extras on the Triumph for same price.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV ..thanks a lot. I go for offroad tracking, adventuring enjoiyng. So better the T7? Agree?
i get around 4.7 to 5 lt per 100km on the ktm 1290 sar
Yep, if you're light on the throttle. Most well fuel managed big bikes will get around that, but open them up and.................9.5 easy.
I get 6.1 litres per 100 on my 1190. You must be light on the throttle.
most likely a little although i do use the torque of the engine, there is not much sand in alot of the areas I ride. Although a recent ride showed 6.5 lts to the 100 and end of ride it returned to 5. Thats across 50/50 mix wet and dry. I do try to stay smooth on the wrist but I did come from a ktm 500 excf @@AussieDazza
Nope, I think you'll find fuel management technology has gotten a heap better, since the 1190 days. @@AussieDazza
The bike itself looks amazing and the price for what you get is hard to beat. BUT, Triumphs digital instruments are really poor, the graphics look like they're from 2005 with metal highlights everywhere and the whole system is just slow and has a frame rate of like 5. Not good enough in 2024 imo.
It looked all right to me. It did the job pretty well.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I don't know, apart from looking ugly it's bad compared to the BMW and KTM.
Too much electronics on these bikes now. ABS on or off, three levels of traction control and get on with it. I like to just ride the damn thing.
That's why I've kept my older T7. Turn off ABS and go. Mind you that's even a pain.
15:44 Dave seems like it would bite you in the ass if your not careful ye
I don't think so. It has good handling and steers where you point it.
Can’t understand why every year these bikes become more of a Nanny state … riders have more trouble just staying on the right side of the road on dirt tracks than any issue this over bearing technical garbage solves.
It's in all of them but I hear you.
The only way I'd ride a Triumph would be if I was given it for free.
That's a bit harsh. It's a great bike.
Go to the pnw, Australia stinks lol
A terrible place.
No compression adjustment?? Seriously? 😂
For rear.
Very poor, would never buy a bike of this level without that. I think it's Desert x also doesnt have it.
I don't know for sure... I did buy a 24 900 RP.
But I was told the rebound adjustment was a dual compression/rebound circuit with prescribed boundaries if that makes sense.
@@charlesodonnell4214 , in some way it is, i think the compression and rebound are 2 ways to adjust oil speed ínside same circuit, still i think at this price point its not acceptable not having a dedicated compression adjustment. Good luck with the bike, looks very good, i had a Triumph Daytona 955i some years ago and it was a disaster when it comes to reliability, even the whole eletric circuit had to be replaced. Hope Triumph has learned something in the meanwhile.
that's not the case, please listen to the Triumph expert at the end of this video. @@charlesodonnell4214
Any engine heat issues on these when going slow?
No, it was a great engine. One of the best in its class.
Great video. as always Dave!! Today I've tryed the new tiger and i loved it. Next week i'm gonna try the desertx. Which one would you recommend between the two? Cheers
I can’t call that. They are very close for different reasons. You need to clearly understand what you want.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTVThank you so much for the response! I would like a more powerful and enjoyable motorcycle compared to my T7, and one that gives me a more 'exciting' feeling on the road (I typically use the motorcycle 70% on-road and 30% off-road).
@@edoardoscriboniwhat did you decide. I’m torn between Tiger and 900 GS
I would have thought the standard Africa Twin a competitor to this?
Yeah. As far as I'm concerned anything over or close to 200 KG is a competitor.
You aroused my interest in this bike. What did you think of the weight and any tip over feeling when manoeuvring
Feels slightly less than a T700.