Have you seen the Jordan Peterson tweets to Elon? They all want to be him AND be "with him". Perhaps they didn't take the warning about the water from Alex Jones serious enough?!
Being a fan of a billionaire must feel like walking around a casino you don't own, and hooting like a badass every time the house wins, licking the urinals, and calling the trash can, "Sir".
@@TraumaQueen65 Yup, pretty sure he used a voice changer as well. Either that or he was doing the cinnamon challenge while calling... While covering his mic with his hand...
Being a fan of a billionaire has got to be one of the cringest things on the planet. You are just a statistic for them. They don't care about human life they just care about numbers going up and down.
It's like here on MR comment section there's only two options: either you're totally 100 percent on board..... Or you're a moron psychopath who hates humanity. Maybe there's too much rage against musk. And maybe the argument is a bit less rage. Not that he's a god. Maybe abortion is bad at a certain point. I don't think on a lot of topics there's an objective concrete truth. I think there's opinionated nuance. Especially in something like abortion. I mean... How can we hate someone for being completely anti-abortion? They believe those are babies. I dunno. I've seen some pretty shitty areas of the world and some pretty downtrodden people. I don't blame anyone for anything that they think feel or do. Everyone's just a product of their environment.
People like this usually say they're progressive because they think weed should be legal and gay marriage is cool. They basically haven't changed since 20 years ago and they think these legacy positions still count when they're basically centrists now.
I love that his argument is simultaneously "elon is defending free speech by allowing hate speech or undesirable speech" to "well its a private company" when it comes to the word cis
"Companies are allowed to do anything they want" *Companies do something they don't like* "😖😥😥😥😡😡😡🤬" I admire Sam for not hanging up on his call because the caller was interrupting him on almost every sentence.
What I love even more than that was how immediate it was. Usually you have to chase these people around a bit more before they contradict themselves, but this guy was doing it out of the gate!
I feel like I just lost so many brain cells listening to somebody doing soooo much mental gymnastics to defend a person who doesn't know he exists, and could care less if he died tomorrow.
Caller could have saved everyone a lot of time by just saying "Elon Musk is right no matter what he does, especially when he contradicts himself" and hang up.
He never contradicts himself because all of what he says is marketing and propaganda (which are contradictory by their very nature). I can't recall one time Elon Musk made a truthful political argument, except for some extraplanetary life stuff... It has always been a grift
Imagine how tiring it is for Sam to debate complete idiots like the caller. He brought up the First Amendment and couldn't understand Sam's argument it has nothing to do with Twitter's censoring in America and abroad. Or how he didn't understand explanations how Musk's words and actions regarding free speech are literal and blatant examples of hypocrisy. Genuinely low IQ person
and now capitalist subscription based "free speech" is experiencing shortages and rationing. Who will bring freedom to the people standing in the Twitter bread lines?
It boggles my mind how anybody could be this blind to a glaring contradiction they made. This is not about a finer point or subdiscussion. That was his whole premise for the discussion. Astounding.
Sam cited only example and argued that the one example means Musk is no more free speech. It is a dishonest argument. It ignores frequency and degree. It’s like arguing that because Majority Report bans use of the N-word, Majority Report is every bit as stifling of speech as the North Korean government. Uh, no.
This guy isn't a real progessive. Real progressive's preferred Twiiter Pre Musk . When it was heavily moderated . I preferred it when the origin of Covid was a racoon dog and the vaccine stopped transmission!
@@jackeagleeye3453 He's a Musk fan. He can't believe that Musk would lie, or do anything wrong. He will bend over backwards to keep the image he has of Musk in his head pure. You see this kind of thing with celebrity fandom all the time, but CEO fandom is new so it seems weird. These people are no different than Chris Brown fans that will bend over backwards to explain away his abuse.
If you actually look into Elon Musk, you'll find a dark void, with a tiny child at it's centre crying at the injustice of his pants being wet after he pissed them.
Yeah there is no such thing as a Pro-Elon Musk Progressive as the two are mutually exclusive from each other because Elon Musk believes in all of the crazy QAnon conspiracy theories. So if a person supports Elon Musk than that person automatically also supports QAnon there for that person can never be a Progressive. A Pro-QAnon Progressive is like being a pro-bacon Muslim!
The fellow is now posting Musk's take-offs and landings on another platform but what is being analyed and revealed by his flights is how much fuel he's using and how much CO2 Elon is adding to the atmosphere.Musk was mad at being exposed as a significant contributor to climate change with his massive jet mileage. Elon flies his jet tens of thousands of miles a week. That's huge!
Elon *is* trying to solve problems, but he's not qualified to decide what's a problem. He's trying to make the world more comfortable for him, personally.
It is more that he is a guy that thinks in product presentations and so every solution needs to be a buzzword monster to even be considered. Just using or implementing something that already exists doesn't get investors and neoliberal media hyped up. It is basically rich people and upper management syndrome. You whole world is basically buzzwords and fancy presentations.
It’s honestly impressive and sad just how much propaganda have affected these peoples mind. I can’t believe there’s people out there that really defend billionaires like they are kings. Bootlickers
@@JG-es5djIt's generally a catch-all term for left-leaning policies. Anything that bolsters the social safety net or supports public institutions. Universal Healthcare and Social Security are both good examples.
I don’t get the Elon fanboys. Like I like Tom Hanks but I’m not willing to justify EVERYTHING he does. Like they are obsessed with a guy they don’t know. It’s almost cult like. Why are so many people willing to join every potential cult they see?
Immaturity and lack of education. Previous generations understood that there are no "heroes" and people left uncheck will abuse their power 9 out of 10 times. At work I have seen it, in society I have seen it. I have seen the change in my life time. I always suspected that as the WW II generation died, society would repeat the same mistakes.
I always find it highly unconvincing when people say that they have always held a political belief that they currently do. I come from a right wing family and am forced to always question myself at every turn to ask myself *why* I believe something, and it is a massive red flag to me when someone implies that they never had to do introspection.
@@Pooshmaster47 So I just got into Sam and from a collection of I'd say idk 3 to 5 videos here it certainly looks that way. There is a counter argument here. I've actually learned so much in the past few hours that I think at some point you have to level the burden of learning on the caller, or in my case, the viewer. It feels very heated right. I think you're right in maybe what I think you're getting at, that he could maybe tone it down a bit and be more careful of either the callers sensitivity or their information on the topic at hand. I think that would be a great thing for even someone like me who doesn't understand broader politics. (IE anything beyond common news outlets in america or here on youtube where they REALLY hammer that drama and entertainment value much harder than Sam.) At the same time, for someone who really values learning more about it uh... I think so far I can work with that. It's a double edged sword like that. If he let the caller rant about what seems to be affirming their own beliefs rather than listening to his counterpoints (I can admit this is somewhat presumptuous but to me this is affirmed by these trailing thoughts you can hear as he speaks over them) I genuinely do believe I'd learn a lot less. Also, I'm not sure it's even great for the caller. Sam really does seem to get straight to the point. Again, so far. I'm still thinking about all this but to me the recent video on Ukraine really illustrates the point I'm trying to make here. I mean I was googling shit left and right man. And I just hope these callers are doing the same, even if they felt hurt or even straight up don't want to take him at face value.
It always amazes me how someone like Elon can make a single statement half a year ago, act completely opposite of that, and people still believe the original statement. How do these people even form opinions in the first place?
I love the “progressive since I was 3 years old” line. The irony is that all 3 year olds are progressive, they will play with anyone regardless of colour, nationality, religious background etc.
Same thing that caught me. It’s the “lucky” position. Its more valuable IMO to work your way to progressive positions because it requires constant introspection and logical evaluation.
it’s like when stupid people say “oh I wasn’t born then” to try and cover their ignorance of widely known historical facts like Watergate, the Cuban missile crisis or when WW2 happened
"Well, I'm not familiar with X." Okay well I'll tell you what happened...........(tells them) "Look, I don't know about that situation, I haven't read about it" like bro let's just say it's true for a moment😂😂😂😂 it's obviously a cop out
Like Ron Desantis fence sitting on January 6th. When asked his thoughts on it he said “I wasn’t there, I wasn’t even near Washington” like that means he didn’t see what happened or can’t have an opinion on it? Such a blatant copout answer and people really should push him on it. Can you imagine if you asked a politician to condemn 9/11 in 2003 and their response was “I wasn’t even in New York then so I don’t really know.”
@@legrandexsuch a classic. Although, I honestly wish I encountered it more and significantly less of the related Dunning-Kruger style, “my unfathomable ignorance means my incredibly awful take should be taken seriously.”
This guy let us know right at the outset that he hasn't changed his politics since he was three years old. This totally sounded like an argument with a three year old
Twas definitely composed of hot takes and one dimensional understandings of the Constitution. The caller was a total idiot and couldn't even bring himself to actually answer Sam's questions!
If someone informs you of something you didn't previously know that alters your argument, you shouldn't be allowed to argue your ignorance of it as an exception to your claims.
Subtext picked up on by trying to argue ignorance as a defence to switch to another talking point: *He didn’t trust Sam, since Sam was the source of the new information.* I don’t know about you but I don’t listen to a show for a long time that I don’t trust. Just a hunch here but the “progressive since 3” was probably bullshit too.
I don't know how anyone sees what happened to Twitter today and think that this man has any idea what he's doing. Also, the idea this man is trying to solve problems is hilarious. He just wants a right-wing echo chamber with the app and it's disgusting
@@DK-tq8pe I'm glad that I'm lucky enough to live in a country where free speech doesn't cost $8 a month and all you get is rationing. MAJOR FAIL ELON!
Yeah, anyplace allowing Truth is right-wing. Since Musk took over users are posting all sort of scientific truths and not being punished for it as they would have been before. It really angers me that those monsters are able to share truths that destroy our progressive Liberal narrative and agenda. Our lies are good and necessary.
Better thank whatever made the universe that Elon isn't capable of running for President or he'd be the front runner right now ... he is definitely the "gentler kinder" Trump replacement Republicans are searching for.
He's allowed TONS OF SPEECH to exist on his platform. The fascist cult was censoring 200 X's MORE speech when the fascists were in control. MORE is better than LESS. Is it perfect? No. But it's BETTER. And the fascist ties to government have been mostly DESTROYED. Thank God.
I don't understand how someone can still function enough to breath AND talk with this amount of cognitive dissonance. "He had an issue with the lack of free speech, so he came in and censored some shit"
Personally, I think this was Elon's very own "John Barron" call, trying to pump up his imag by pretending to be a "random" fan.😄😂It ALSO made donald trump look like a fool when he tried it back in the day
@@kimberleyespinoza4992as fun as that idea is, we would all recognize Elon’s sputtering, stream of conscious speaking pattern even with a voice changer.
He was FORCED to buy Twitter. Let's not forget that! He said a lot of stupid things, tried to manipulate the market, and they took his offer seriously. He tried to back out and got himself caught up!
@@gibbsm he could have paid a billion dollars, but he would have had to let them keep going through all his texts, and he was so embarrassed by what was coming out that he just bought it
@@kenswanson7176 Actually that with going through texts did not change, he still needs to do that, and that he doesn't will at some point get him in extra legal trouble again.
@@AdmiralBison When they started things off with "I'm a progressive since day one, since I was two years old." I just did not expect the full boot fellatio. lol
@@zen_lemming He's lying. It's a lame tactic used by dishonest interlocuters in an attempt to add credence to their argument. I have seen many religious debates where theists claim to have been staunch atheists but ultimately "could not deny the overwhelming truth of God". They think it is more convincing if a former atheist (sceptic) now "sees the light". A quick search usually exposes them as life-long religous fanitics. quelle suprise!
"There is no fact that is going to permeate your belief system." Yes this sums up any dialog with somebody on the right. Which is precisely why I disengage when I find out and instead pursue my discourse with people that can think and who are normal and can accept things like facts.
He's just a corporate business person with business ideas. It's the people he pays who have the talent to conceptualise his ideas. His ideas are usually a mess, and again, he relies upon other people's talents to construct his ideas more orderly. He is at least talented at getting people to think he's some sort of business genius with talent.
Free speech? No one has never stopped anyone from building their own website and saying whatever they want. How hard is it for people to understand, you're not entitled say whatever you want on a private business's platform same way you can't walk into a Walmart and be entitled to do whatever you want. The concept is not that hard to grasp.
I'm a bit iffy about this libertarian argument due to the nature of monopolies. You can also make the argument that large platforms like Twitter, Facebook etc are akin to a public sphere and should be subject to 1st Amendment protection or something. But regardless of anything, this guy was a total idiot because he contradicted himself in the first of couple of minutes and agreed with your comment here lol.
As much as this dude is a clown, around 4 or 5 is when I got the racism talk from my parents, because there were some white kids at my school making fun of me for being so dark. Its when I very first began to understand that things were kinda fucked up out here lol.
Do you know when you were a little kid playing outside in summer with your friends in the neighborhood having a good old time… And then there was that ONE kid that came along and ruined everything, and we all stopped playing and went home??? That's Twitter and Musk
Mouth breathers like this caller are exactly why they say "never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then defeat you with experience".
@@gibbsm So, if I wanna know where you stand on an issue, I should just ask your aunt? And when was the last time you saw a three year old? My buddy has one and they're teaching him how to put his pants on and not sht in the bed. HE certainly hasn't expressed where he stands on abortion or gun control.
Jack the last head of twitter actually fought off other counties leaders when they tried to force twitter to censor their critics yet Musk had no resistance to their requests. This guy does 180’s so often it’s making my head spin. He’s making no sense
When he said he's been a progressive since age 3 I scoffed. Like sure, ok dude. I can tell your idea of progressivism has stayed at the level of a 3 year old that gets distracted by jingling keys lmao.
The late great George Carlin's observations of the general population: *"Think of how stupid the average person is… and realize half of them are stupider than that."*
Another impossible discussion would be "Elon Musk does some actual work for his various companies while spending loads of time on his shenanigans on Twitter".
Progressive since he was 3 years old... Ugh... anyone can just lie, eh? He's f*cking up twitter, simple as that. This guy pretty much says fire tastes good.
It’s hard to think he’s not. He created and sold a website that was a predecessor to PayPal. He started a space/rocket company that takes contracts from NASA. He has advocated vociferously for EV’s and started the EV revolution. You can’t deny every automaker now has an EV. He’s a capitalist and enjoys making massive profit off of solving problems, but that’s the system we live in. Twitter is another story and I might agree that he’s not solving any problems there.
@@nickthompson1812hat’s just fanciful bullshit invented as a PR tactic to distract from Elon’s shitty, unethical business practices. You know he’s not with PayPal anymore, because he was too slimy for the other capitalist shitheads there, right?
@@nickthompson1812yeah he isn't trying to solve the problem it's more like he is associated with people who try to solve that problem, PayPal, Tesla are all founded by different people, he just hold lots of shares in it.
The word "cis" is also used in biochemistry/organic chemistry. If i remember correctly, when light hits the retina in the eye, the chemical name changes from "cis" to "trans". So to say that "cis" is unacceptable is OUTRAGEOUS! The word "cis" and "trans" is not only used regarding gender.
When somebody suspiciously proclaims they’re left leaning or whatever before taking a questionable position, ask then what policies do they disagree with on the right. If they are unclear that’s your queue to call them out, then proceed.
Tim always responds to this by citing medicare for all, but when you then press him on how it would be paid for he immediately recoils and backtracks. These people are jokes.
The fact that Elon Musk STILL has stans is such an embarrassment
It’s like any religious fanatic, they are always delusional
@@DemoWarlockI don’t think we can function as a society and civilization anymore.
r/elonmusk has been pretty entertaining this afternoon.
@@ccentralchannel4492 I highly disagree, however we to change a lot, which is the reason im a leftist
Have you seen the Jordan Peterson tweets to Elon? They all want to be him AND be "with him". Perhaps they didn't take the warning about the water from Alex Jones serious enough?!
Caller "Elon bought Twitter to fight censorship ". Sam ", Elon is doing his own censorships". Caller "Well Twitter is a private company "
these your goalposts bro?
I heard that, too, and chortled. 😅Guy cannot see the hypocrisy. Sheeesh
@@AwesometownUSAYoy just scored an own goal.
What a silly argument honestly. We ban other gender slurs… did anyone honestly expect Elon to let everyone call each other the F cigarette word?
It was like talking to a Trump supporter who wants to defend Elon.
I wonder how much Tesla stock he owns.
Its crazy how a "long time listener" could support Melon Musk
"im a progressive since I was three years old." Ah yes, all the three year olds I know have developed political beliefs.
The correct statement is "I'm a progressive BECAUSE I'm three years old."
@@dialecticalmonist3405 He already answered you with his answer.
Sounds like Michael Keaton from the show family ties
Me personally, I was a staunch libertarian as a 3 year old. It wasn’t until I was around 8 that I became a communist
Being a fan of a billionaire must feel like walking around a casino you don't own, and hooting like a badass every time the house wins, licking the urinals, and calling the trash can, "Sir".
Yo! 😂😂😂💯
This comment gives me hard Uncle Ruckus vibes.
Did you see lex Friedman at a casino?
Fucking BRUTAL. And I'm here for it! 😂
I almost had an accident laughing at this 😅
"I'm not here to simp for Elon."
Spends the next 20 minutes defending every hypocritical decision he ever made 😂😂😂😂😂
Literally gargling elons balls
Guy is using a voice changer... he's never been a progressive in his life. Sam saw through it as soon as he opened his mouth
@@TraumaQueen65 Exactly. This asshat is no progressive and he's definitely using a voice changing device.
@@TraumaQueen65 "I'm progressive since I was 3" LOL
@@TraumaQueen65 Yup, pretty sure he used a voice changer as well. Either that or he was doing the cinnamon challenge while calling... While covering his mic with his hand...
Being a fan of a billionaire has got to be one of the cringest things on the planet.
You are just a statistic for them. They don't care about human life they just care about numbers going up and down.
It's like here on MR comment section there's only two options: either you're totally 100 percent on board..... Or you're a moron psychopath who hates humanity.
Maybe there's too much rage against musk. And maybe the argument is a bit less rage. Not that he's a god.
Maybe abortion is bad at a certain point.
I don't think on a lot of topics there's an objective concrete truth. I think there's opinionated nuance. Especially in something like abortion.
I mean... How can we hate someone for being completely anti-abortion? They believe those are babies.
I dunno. I've seen some pretty shitty areas of the world and some pretty downtrodden people. I don't blame anyone for anything that they think feel or do. Everyone's just a product of their environment.
@@jamesparker223 Sure buddy
@@mechanomics2649 ?
i don’t get how people say they watch the show and expect to get away with being so poorly informed when they come on to debate
"I'm progressive and I want to speak of your elon musk perception..." I started to laugh immediately.
I wonder if the sheer number of eye rolls has sped up the Earth's rotation....
Yeah, always a huge red flag when someone starts their opinion of trying to pre-validate it using their supposed identity.
The more you have to repeat what you are, the more likely it is you are lying to both yourself and everyone else.
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I wonder if he's one of those 'progressives' who argues against all the most important progressive policies. You know, like a Pooliberal.
Weird how there are now so many “centrists” and even “progressives” who sound just like conservatives
That's what you get when Democrats and liberals are considered the radical left by anyone other than actual leftists. Capitalism kills
People like this usually say they're progressive because they think weed should be legal and gay marriage is cool. They basically haven't changed since 20 years ago and they think these legacy positions still count when they're basically centrists now.
You can thank the oil industry for that @dailywire and the other one.
Like this caller, many people are highly confused
Maybe they're Tim Pool watchers ? I wonder if the right has the same issue 🤔
Imagine voluntarily exposing your own inability to think critically like this guy just did lmao
“I’m a day 1 progressive” *proceeds to worship a billionaire*
“I’m a day 1 progressive” **defends use of slurs as free speech**
“I’m a day 1 progressive” *since the age of 3(?)*
I love that his argument is simultaneously "elon is defending free speech by allowing hate speech or undesirable speech" to "well its a private company" when it comes to the word cis
And free speech in turkey and India bans for opposition political parties on the platform, Elon defends free speech with censorship.
These people always get slapped down hard once they dare to venture from their echo chambers
"Companies are allowed to do anything they want"
*Companies do something they don't like*
"😖😥😥😥😡😡😡🤬"
I admire Sam for not hanging up on his call because the caller was interrupting him on almost every sentence.
What I love even more than that was how immediate it was. Usually you have to chase these people around a bit more before they contradict themselves, but this guy was doing it out of the gate!
and not like it took any time. he went STRAIGHT to it
Thank God he's progressive because if he were any more to the right, he'd be goose stepping down main street.
When he works hard enough he's going to buy some Hugo Boss clothing and Drive a early 40's Mercedes
dude he is a progressive
he's advocating to progress more to the right
Well when you go all the way to the left it goes back to the right.😂
@@Matt-ru5rwBS.
@@greeneyedlady5580 Progressives are as naive and blind as MAGA.
I feel like I just lost so many brain cells listening to somebody doing soooo much mental gymnastics to defend a person who doesn't know he exists, and could care less if he died tomorrow.
it's fascinating to me that these people call in and think they're going to do something and then expose themselves as never having a coherent thought
Sadly, they're right. When you spew propaganda, it's not for the enemy. It's to reinforce indoctrination. Idk I could be an idiot though.
The hoops this guy jumped through to make nonsense arguments
Cirque du Coliet level shit here
That’s Sam’s way on every issue.
Sam Seder isn’t exactly a bright person. I would smoke him in an IQ contest.
@@CarterDavis-nu6ey i meant the caller, you should quit drinking
@@CarterDavis-nu6ey Call in and debate him on your pet issue then. Prove what a big brain you are.
He's in Elon Musk's Cult. Cults can have a very strong grips on people perception of reality.
I’m convinced this is just Elon using a voice changer.
No Musk stutters a lot more.
Musk is also too in love with the sound of his own voice to ever do something like that.
'Hello Sam, this is Mister... Ksssum... yes, that will do...'
It sounds like that moron Aymon that was on
Lol I thought that too
He knew that using Cis results in a suspension, not a ban yet minutes later acts like he's not familiar with the details.
I’ve noticed that whenever someone says “Let me preference this by saying I’m a progressive”, we’re probably about to be in for a wild ride…
Caller could have saved everyone a lot of time by just saying "Elon Musk is right no matter what he does, especially when he contradicts himself" and hang up.
hahaha😄😄
The irony of these shit-stains after Elon's decisions ended up causing Twitter to DDOS itself today is both hilarious and cringeworthy
He never contradicts himself because all of what he says is marketing and propaganda (which are contradictory by their very nature). I can't recall one time Elon Musk made a truthful political argument, except for some extraplanetary life stuff... It has always been a grift
Lol also would’ve been hilarious. And made him seem like he was kidding.
Imagine how tiring it is for Sam to debate complete idiots like the caller. He brought up the First Amendment and couldn't understand Sam's argument it has nothing to do with Twitter's censoring in America and abroad. Or how he didn't understand explanations how Musk's words and actions regarding free speech are literal and blatant examples of hypocrisy. Genuinely low IQ person
Funny how when Jack owned Twitter it was free speech
Now Elon owns it and it's a private company 😂😂
This stan didn't think this call out all the way
and now capitalist subscription based "free speech" is experiencing shortages and rationing.
Who will bring freedom to the people standing in the Twitter bread lines?
That stan is handicapped by Evolution.
Yeah when Dorsey owned it he was "censoring", but Musk is just "exercising free speech" cuz muh first amendment.
It boggles my mind how anybody could be this blind to a glaring contradiction they made. This is not about a finer point or subdiscussion. That was his whole premise for the discussion. Astounding.
Sam is goddamn sharp. No wonder Tim is terrified of him.
The double think from that guy was amazing.
It only took two minutes for Sam to identify the contradictions between his claims and what Elon realy does.😂
There's something so off with the caller lol. Like he can't just admit that Elon lied about supporting free speech.
Sam cited only example and argued that the one example means Musk is no more free speech.
It is a dishonest argument. It ignores frequency and degree.
It’s like arguing that because Majority Report bans use of the N-word, Majority Report is every bit as stifling of speech as the North Korean government.
Uh, no.
This guy isn't a real progessive. Real progressive's preferred Twiiter Pre Musk . When it was heavily moderated . I preferred it when the origin of Covid was a racoon dog and the vaccine stopped transmission!
@@jackeagleeye3453 He's a Musk fan. He can't believe that Musk would lie, or do anything wrong. He will bend over backwards to keep the image he has of Musk in his head pure. You see this kind of thing with celebrity fandom all the time, but CEO fandom is new so it seems weird. These people are no different than Chris Brown fans that will bend over backwards to explain away his abuse.
@@ABitOfApplause Is Chris Brown still a thing? I haven't heard from him since like 2012.
It’s actually Elon with a 90’s era voice changer
This was my immediate reaction when I first heard the voice 😂
The voice is like the dude in Silence of the Lambs. It rubs the lotion in and puts the bottle in the bucket 😳🥵
Could be Larry Elder
The "I live in the bottom of a fish tank" voice changer ?
Probably. 😂
This guy has drank the whole damn pitcher of Elon's Kool-Aid!!! 🤣🤣🤣
When I was a teenager I had the same opinion of Elon musk then I started looking into him😂
looking into him? like how?
thru his mouth, his eyes, or thru his anus?
If you actually look into Elon Musk, you'll find a dark void, with a tiny child at it's centre crying at the injustice of his pants being wet after he pissed them.
At this point Elon Musk is trying to solve problems that don’t exist. In fact he’s creating more problems.
The only problem Elon Musk is trying to solve is: Why do people stop liking me and think I am a huge a***le.
"at this point"????‽???
He IS the problem 😂
No, Elon is lying about these problems existing as a cover for his bigotry and massive ego
@@paulwei6596😂😂😂💯
“I’m progressive” LOL
Yeah there is no such thing as a Pro-Elon Musk Progressive as the two are mutually exclusive from each other because Elon Musk believes in all of the crazy QAnon conspiracy theories. So if a person supports Elon Musk than that person automatically also supports QAnon there for that person can never be a Progressive. A Pro-QAnon Progressive is like being a pro-bacon Muslim!
TBF, i thought i was a progressive for the longest time, when in reality, i was a leftist but didn't know it.
I knew he was full of it when he said that
It’s just a tactic. It’s another distraction to add to the pile of contradictions he was spewing
I'll say it again. The word progressive means as much to the left as the word libertarian means to the right. Equally nebulous.
The fellow is now posting Musk's take-offs and landings on another platform but what is being analyed and revealed by his flights is how much fuel he's using and how much CO2 Elon is adding to the atmosphere.Musk was mad at being exposed as a significant contributor to climate change with his massive jet mileage. Elon flies his jet tens of thousands of miles a week. That's huge!
Elon *is* trying to solve problems, but he's not qualified to decide what's a problem. He's trying to make the world more comfortable for him, personally.
It is more that he is a guy that thinks in product presentations and so every solution needs to be a buzzword monster to even be considered.
Just using or implementing something that already exists doesn't get investors and neoliberal media hyped up.
It is basically rich people and upper management syndrome. You whole world is basically buzzwords and fancy presentations.
It’s honestly impressive and sad just how much propaganda have affected these peoples mind. I can’t believe there’s people out there that really defend billionaires like they are kings. Bootlickers
And also identify as a "progressive". It's hilarious/delusional.
They are caught up in the fantasy. It's no different than a LARPer.
@@diallo1347what exactly does progressive mean? I see the American left use this term all the time
@@JG-es5djIt's generally a catch-all term for left-leaning policies. Anything that bolsters the social safety net or supports public institutions. Universal Healthcare and Social Security are both good examples.
That's just some very effective propaganda.
I don’t get the Elon fanboys. Like I like Tom Hanks but I’m not willing to justify EVERYTHING he does. Like they are obsessed with a guy they don’t know. It’s almost cult like. Why are so many people willing to join every potential cult they see?
There's a very large crossover between Elon fanboys and Trump supporters. So it makes sense that it feels cult-like.
They hit the notes religion hits, banking on wilful ignorance and echo chambers.
In Tom's defense, he has been ranked Most Trustworthy American before, so 👀
He's saving humanity, bro. If we don't have free speech on Twitter then humans are going to starve to death. If we don't space then how gonna eat?
Immaturity and lack of education. Previous generations understood that there are no "heroes" and people left uncheck will abuse their power 9 out of 10 times. At work I have seen it, in society I have seen it. I have seen the change in my life time. I always suspected that as the WW II generation died, society would repeat the same mistakes.
I always find it highly unconvincing when people say that they have always held a political belief that they currently do. I come from a right wing family and am forced to always question myself at every turn to ask myself *why* I believe something, and it is a massive red flag to me when someone implies that they never had to do introspection.
Honestly props to Sam for going so long with someone who's obviously having difficulty juggling two thoughts.
Yeah he's running circles around the caller, but I think he stays on out of a true desire to help properly inform him.
@@Pooshmaster47and it helps his ratings
@@Pooshmaster47 So I just got into Sam and from a collection of I'd say idk 3 to 5 videos here it certainly looks that way. There is a counter argument here. I've actually learned so much in the past few hours that I think at some point you have to level the burden of learning on the caller, or in my case, the viewer.
It feels very heated right. I think you're right in maybe what I think you're getting at, that he could maybe tone it down a bit and be more careful of either the callers sensitivity or their information on the topic at hand. I think that would be a great thing for even someone like me who doesn't understand broader politics. (IE anything beyond common news outlets in america or here on youtube where they REALLY hammer that drama and entertainment value much harder than Sam.) At the same time, for someone who really values learning more about it uh... I think so far I can work with that. It's a double edged sword like that. If he let the caller rant about what seems to be affirming their own beliefs rather than listening to his counterpoints (I can admit this is somewhat presumptuous but to me this is affirmed by these trailing thoughts you can hear as he speaks over them) I genuinely do believe I'd learn a lot less.
Also, I'm not sure it's even great for the caller. Sam really does seem to get straight to the point. Again, so far.
I'm still thinking about all this but to me the recent video on Ukraine really illustrates the point I'm trying to make here. I mean I was googling shit left and right man. And I just hope these callers are doing the same, even if they felt hurt or even straight up don't want to take him at face value.
It always amazes me how someone like Elon can make a single statement half a year ago, act completely opposite of that, and people still believe the original statement. How do these people even form opinions in the first place?
They pick a single source randomly and then repeat everything they misinterpret from that source.
I'm amazed these people even know how to tie their own shoes
Cult of personality is a helluva drug.
Remind you of trump ?
Elon Musk is all for free speech only unless you don’t criticise him ,he’s as thin skinned as Trump
I love the “progressive since I was 3 years old” line. The irony is that all 3 year olds are progressive, they will play with anyone regardless of colour, nationality, religious background etc.
True!
I interpreted it as "I haven't evolved my opinions since I was a toddler". Not a brag, guy.
Same thing that caught me. It’s the “lucky” position. Its more valuable IMO to work your way to progressive positions because it requires constant introspection and logical evaluation.
Perhaps 3 yr. olds are SO PURE, they are the perfect people to decide what progressive actually means.
@@liesalllies well hes arguing like a toddler so.....
The caller is made of special pleading.
Sam wiped the floor with that pro Musk guy. And the way he throws shade so effortlessly, especially at the end of the 'debate'.
I love the old “oh, I didn’t know that happened so it can’t be used as part of this debate” argument. It’s absolutely my favorite.
it’s like when stupid people say “oh I wasn’t born then” to try and cover their ignorance of widely known historical facts like Watergate, the Cuban missile crisis or when WW2 happened
"Well, I'm not familiar with X."
Okay well I'll tell you what happened...........(tells them)
"Look, I don't know about that situation, I haven't read about it" like bro let's just say it's true for a moment😂😂😂😂 it's obviously a cop out
Like Ron Desantis fence sitting on January 6th. When asked his thoughts on it he said “I wasn’t there, I wasn’t even near Washington” like that means he didn’t see what happened or can’t have an opinion on it? Such a blatant copout answer and people really should push him on it. Can you imagine if you asked a politician to condemn 9/11 in 2003 and their response was “I wasn’t even in New York then so I don’t really know.”
next to that for me is the "I don't understand this, it must not make any sense" argument.
@@legrandexsuch a classic. Although, I honestly wish I encountered it more and significantly less of the related Dunning-Kruger style, “my unfathomable ignorance means my incredibly awful take should be taken seriously.”
This guy let us know right at the outset that he hasn't changed his politics since he was three years old. This totally sounded like an argument with a three year old
Twas definitely composed of hot takes and one dimensional understandings of the Constitution. The caller was a total idiot and couldn't even bring himself to actually answer Sam's questions!
Yeah. I don't think anyone who still believes as they did when they were a child is going to have the greatest critical thinking skills.
he's been an edge lord liz warren progressive since day one bro LOL
This guy is not in Sam's league
The smooth brain energy from this Stan is radiating through my screen.
2:09 WHEN HE SAID "BUT ITS A PRIVATE COMPANY" I FUCKING LOST IT HAHAHAAHHA
Prior to age 3 that guy hated Mexicans and argued against higher taxes for the wealthy.
🤣🤣🤣
If someone informs you of something you didn't previously know that alters your argument, you shouldn't be allowed to argue your ignorance of it as an exception to your claims.
Right?? Dude was like, "I didn't know about the cis anything." Okay, well you do now. How does that factor into your argument???
Subtext picked up on by trying to argue ignorance as a defence to switch to another talking point: *He didn’t trust Sam, since Sam was the source of the new information.*
I don’t know about you but I don’t listen to a show for a long time that I don’t trust. Just a hunch here but the “progressive since 3” was probably bullshit too.
Lol “I didn’t know about that” well you do now so comment on it
yup, it's time to stop, and re-evaluate what you believe, or accept as true.
@@matango6133 He didn't know anything about the cis anything - but he knew that it was a suspension not a ban.
I even think this guy was distorting his voice because he couldn't even stand by what he said
"Elon Musk is here to solve problems"
Jesus, how gullible can you be.
I don't know how anyone sees what happened to Twitter today and think that this man has any idea what he's doing. Also, the idea this man is trying to solve problems is hilarious. He just wants a right-wing echo chamber with the app and it's disgusting
The only way I would agree that Elmo knew what he was doing is if he was intentionally trying to destroy Twitter
@@progressivedragon6664definitely with the stupid stuff he pulled today with how many tweets you can view!
@@DK-tq8pe not ruin it?
@@DK-tq8pe I'm glad that I'm lucky enough to live in a country where free speech doesn't cost $8 a month and all you get is rationing. MAJOR FAIL ELON!
Yeah, anyplace allowing Truth is right-wing.
Since Musk took over users are posting all sort of scientific truths and not being punished for it as they would have been before.
It really angers me that those monsters are able to share truths that destroy our progressive Liberal narrative and agenda. Our lies are good and necessary.
The need to feel like Elon is here to save us all… is wild
If Elon is here to save us I don't wanna be saved.
̶J̶e̶s̶u̶s̶ Elon is our king!
People are desperate for a hero or father figure. Desperate enough to choose people like Elon Musk
Better thank whatever made the universe that Elon isn't capable of running for President or he'd be the front runner right now ... he is definitely the "gentler kinder" Trump replacement Republicans are searching for.
He's allowed TONS OF SPEECH to exist on his platform.
The fascist cult was censoring 200 X's MORE speech when the fascists were in control.
MORE is better than LESS. Is it perfect? No. But it's BETTER.
And the fascist ties to government have been mostly DESTROYED. Thank God.
I don't understand how someone can still function enough to breath AND talk with this amount of cognitive dissonance. "He had an issue with the lack of free speech, so he came in and censored some shit"
He doesn’t know anything about the cis issue on Twitter, yet he corrected Sam saying a suspension was the consequence, not a ban?
Exactly! Dishonesty is the preference of the MAGA Dixiecrat Conspiracy Theorists who love NRA Jesus.
Yep that was one of multiple reasons why I straight up call this caller a pants on fire liar! He lied through his teeth on multiple occasions!
Personally, I think this was Elon's very own "John Barron" call, trying to pump up his imag by pretending to be a "random" fan.😄😂It ALSO made donald trump look like a fool when he tried it back in the day
@@kimberleyespinoza4992as fun as that idea is, we would all recognize Elon’s sputtering, stream of conscious speaking pattern even with a voice changer.
He was FORCED to buy Twitter. Let's not forget that! He said a lot of stupid things, tried to manipulate the market, and they took his offer seriously. He tried to back out and got himself caught up!
With Jack laughing all the way to the bank!
and even dumber is, he only had to pay a billion dollar penalty if he did back out, but he bought the whole kit and caboodle.
@@gibbsm he could have paid a billion dollars, but he would have had to let them keep going through all his texts, and he was so embarrassed by what was coming out that he just bought it
@@kenswanson7176
Actually that with going through texts did not change, he still needs to do that, and that he doesn't will at some point get him in extra legal trouble again.
And that's how we know that you're a real progressive and everyone who thumbed up. Real progressives are informed.
i been on the internet for over 30 years and NEVER used twitter,,,WHY should I?
It’s so wild that in America this caller can legit think he’s a progressive.
I assumed this was a joke call, until I started listening.
Same
Could not believe this caller was real when I first heard it.
Bootlickers do exist.
@@AdmiralBison When they started things off with "I'm a progressive since day one, since I was two years old." I just did not expect the full boot fellatio. lol
@@zen_lemming He's lying. It's a lame tactic used by dishonest interlocuters in an attempt to add credence to their argument. I have seen many religious debates where theists claim to have been staunch atheists but ultimately "could not deny the overwhelming truth of God". They think it is more convincing if a former atheist (sceptic) now "sees the light". A quick search usually exposes them as life-long religous fanitics. quelle suprise!
"There is no fact that is going to permeate your belief system." Yes this sums up any dialog with somebody on the right. Which is precisely why I disengage when I find out and instead pursue my discourse with people that can think and who are normal and can accept things like facts.
Honestly i misread and thought the title said "Elon musk calls in" which made this whole thing even funnier
"But the government says, if you don't censor, you can't be a corporation"
Absolutely brilliant
Truly, one the statements of some time
This guy seems like a brain genius.
Plush toy level IQ
He's just a corporate business person with business ideas. It's the people he pays who have the talent to conceptualise his ideas. His ideas are usually a mess, and again, he relies upon other people's talents to construct his ideas more orderly.
He is at least talented at getting people to think he's some sort of business genius with talent.
Big abrain
It's spelled geemyus. Wut r u dum? 🤪
@@chrisevans1255😂😂😂😂😂
"He wants to solve problems." No, he wants to BE the one credited with solving problems. Big difference.
Free speech? No one has never stopped anyone from building their own website and saying whatever they want. How hard is it for people to understand, you're not entitled say whatever you want on a private business's platform same way you can't walk into a Walmart and be entitled to do whatever you want. The concept is not that hard to grasp.
I'm a bit iffy about this libertarian argument due to the nature of monopolies. You can also make the argument that large platforms like Twitter, Facebook etc are akin to a public sphere and should be subject to 1st Amendment protection or something. But regardless of anything, this guy was a total idiot because he contradicted himself in the first of couple of minutes and agreed with your comment here lol.
"I've been a progressive since I was three years old"
In other words, a lefty from way back.
Like Maher? Lol.
Like David Brooks
Honestly thought he was going to be a fake call, and then I realized he was just a moron.
Yeah, I remember when I was 3 years old and sitting in a ball pit, thinking about improving organized labor.
As much as this dude is a clown, around 4 or 5 is when I got the racism talk from my parents, because there were some white kids at my school making fun of me for being so dark. Its when I very first began to understand that things were kinda fucked up out here lol.
Except Elon's idea of what's wrong is that he's not king of the world and that's the "problem" he's trying to "fix"😂
Elon Musk made a huge mistake and we will never get a admission of that fact from Elon himself.
Do you know when you were a little kid playing outside in summer with your friends in the neighborhood having a good old time… And then there was that ONE kid that came along and ruined everything, and we all stopped playing and went home??? That's Twitter and Musk
Is this guy a progressive from Atlantis? He called from underwater.
🤣🤣🤣
Mouth breathers like this caller are exactly why they say "never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then defeat you with experience".
Caller moving the goalposts so much that they fell off of the edge of flat Earth.
“I’ve been a progressive since I was three” hahahahahahaha
My aunt is an old watery tart that hands out swords as a form of government, and I've followed in her footsteps since the age of three.
I was a progressive since before my biological parents got together and made me.
@@gibbsm So, if I wanna know where you stand on an issue, I should just ask your aunt? And when was the last time you saw a three year old? My buddy has one and they're teaching him how to put his pants on and not sht in the bed. HE certainly hasn't expressed where he stands on abortion or gun control.
Sam might be banned everywhere, but his phone line is always open.
He's not banned from the nightmares of those too afraid to debate him 😄
@@ComradeCatpurrnicus😂😂😂
NYC used to have a baller call in shows on public access back in the day, I think Sam is keeping that alive here.
If this man licked psychedelic frogs as much as he licks boots, he'd be much wiser.
Jack the last head of twitter actually fought off other counties leaders when they tried to force twitter to censor their critics yet Musk had no resistance to their requests. This guy does 180’s so often it’s making my head spin. He’s making no sense
This is giving real “I’m a lefty from way back” vibes
which era? lol
The best part is that's literally what he said.
For the first minute or two I really wasn't sure if it was satire or not. I was almost convinced it was David Feldman with a voice modulator 😂
When he said he's been a progressive since age 3 I scoffed. Like sure, ok dude. I can tell your idea of progressivism has stayed at the level of a 3 year old that gets distracted by jingling keys lmao.
I honestly wondered if it was Feldman on a voice modulator
This guy doesn't understand his own arguments.
How to tell me your not progressive while telling me your progressive.
Damn, Seder cornered this guy within two questions.
I would not believe in a million years that someone actually has this thought pattern.
Neuralink: "Watch this..."
There are SO many of them. 😂
The late great George Carlin's observations of the general population: *"Think of how stupid the average person is… and realize half of them are stupider than that."*
@@Yungrexy He was great. Also, while this is accurate its so effing scary.
Then you don't know people. It's very likely that your own thought patterns are very similar. At least in some areas.
Apparently for something to be public information it needs to be stapled to your forehead 😂😂😂
Another impossible discussion would be "Elon Musk does some actual work for his various companies while spending loads of time on his shenanigans on Twitter".
Progressive since he was 3 years old... Ugh... anyone can just lie, eh? He's f*cking up twitter, simple as that.
This guy pretty much says fire tastes good.
He’s an old leftie, from way back
I was a Progressive in the womb. My cells diversified early.
NPR never said fire is not a taste.... government propaganda at its most banable.
I remember deciding my political allegiance at 2!
Wow. There’s a lot of culty behavior in this country.
It's honestly scary.
This guy is honestly out here saying he has been a progressive since he is three years old that is ridiculous
"I'm progressive."
15 seconds later: "I'm not familiar with the 'cis' thing."
The timing of this is *chef’s kiss*
The universe takes, it takes a lot, but sometimes it also gives
Props to Sam for not spitting out his coffee when that guy said Elon is "sloving problems". 🤣
It’s hard to think he’s not. He created and sold a website that was a predecessor to PayPal. He started a space/rocket company that takes contracts from NASA. He has advocated vociferously for EV’s and started the EV revolution. You can’t deny every automaker now has an EV.
He’s a capitalist and enjoys making massive profit off of solving problems, but that’s the system we live in.
Twitter is another story and I might agree that he’s not solving any problems there.
@@nickthompson1812hat’s just fanciful bullshit invented as a PR tactic to distract from Elon’s shitty, unethical business practices. You know he’s not with PayPal anymore, because he was too slimy for the other capitalist shitheads there, right?
@@nickthompson1812 the US mail service was gonna go EVs in 2005
@@nickthompson1812yeah he isn't trying to solve the problem it's more like he is associated with people who try to solve that problem, PayPal, Tesla are all founded by different people, he just hold lots of shares in it.
@@KingJT80it’s passed 2005. Where’s the EVs?
I love how every “progressive” libertarian has the WORST phone quality
The word "cis" is also used in biochemistry/organic chemistry. If i remember correctly, when light hits the retina in the eye, the chemical name changes from "cis" to "trans". So to say that "cis" is unacceptable is OUTRAGEOUS! The word "cis" and "trans" is not only used regarding gender.
This caller is soo clueless it's absolutely embarrassing
"Bill gates bad but elon musk god"
The problem he was with twitter was: it was being unfair to traitorous scumbags! 🙈🙉🙊
Sam: *Says anything*
Caller: "I'm sorry?"
There are multiple Chinese nationals who are also billionaires, so the caller is incorrect.
This guy has no idea wtf he's even arguing/mad about 😂
facts
Elon Musk is trying to solve problems?
It's a bit like an arsonist saying they're solving the "problem" of firefighters not having enough to do. Lol
Problem no. 1: I'm not getting enough attention.
He's only talented at convincing people he's talented.
Elon only cares about greed for the sake of greed - nothing more unfortunately.
I hope there's an alternate reality where Elon put that 44 billion toward ending world hunger and homelessness and was wildly successful.
Unfortunately given what we've seen of his mentality and skill set he'd probably fuck that up too
Are we sure this isn’t Patrick Bett David pretending to be a random caller?
I was permanently banned from Twitter for being sarcastic to Tomi Lahren.😅
When somebody suspiciously proclaims they’re left leaning or whatever before taking a questionable position, ask then what policies do they disagree with on the right. If they are unclear that’s your queue to call them out, then proceed.
Cue* but also yes
Tim always responds to this by citing medicare for all, but when you then press him on how it would be paid for he immediately recoils and backtracks. These people are jokes.
Good thing I don't support Democrats and their soft on crime policies