well Steve as an HD certified mechanic im on the fence about using Anti-Oxidant Compound on a light bulb base (seen too many shorts from this over the years) Being conductive can be a plus for sure, for battery terminals or places where your positives and grounds are separate all good but where your positive and negative are close together I would use dielectric in those areas so there's a propose for dielectric as well play safe don't be sorry sure it will work for a well but the bigger chance you may end with a short because of it, (and its hard to find when it happens) just my opinion
Other than my concern about Ox-gard flowing in between switch contacts, I suspect Ox-gard a better choice. I once found an old tube of dielectric grease that had some solidified portions inside of it. Ever since then I figured Ox-gard was better option.
Wouldn't there be a benefit of being non-conductive for situations like a trailer connector where the pins/plugs are in close proximity and you don't want the connection pins/plugs to be bridged?
Interesting point but in reality most use dielectric grease , the non conducting type and use it liberally at connection points to the point where the contacts are blocked by the grease . This type I showed is not conductive like a copper wire as I showed with the dmm. I would rather have conductive grease than non conducting anytime. Do you want a good conductive connection that's protected by the grease or non conductive ? depends on the location and whether your improving a conductive connections or you want a non conductive connection.
Your preparation, props, presentation and production are excellent as always Steve. Those four flat trailer connectors corrode fast and badly. I'll have to try this stuff on my utility trailer, on the connector but also on the mixed bag of aluminum and copper wiring all over it
I was looking at a tube of that stuff last week and was thinking about giving it a try... Im definitely going to buy some now. It will work wonders here in Nova Scotia with the salt air that gets into everything. I can see it really being useful for a lot of what I do. I have to put a new trailer connector on my vehicle soon, that stuff should help it last longer. All of the harness connections on my tractors. I'm building a list of uses in my head now 😉
@@SteveRobReviews Yup, I don't think it is much different. Petroleum oil and greases are naturally non-conductive. Adding the particles doesn't do much because the particles do not necessarily contact each other. But when pressure is applied the grease is displaced (which is why dielectric grease works on your starter battery terminals) and the particles can get captured by the pressure and potentially increase conductivity. The only test I've seen was years ago when I worked for Hewlett-Packard. The grease was applied between two glass surfaces and a lot of pressure applied. They used some copper foil contacts on opposite ends so they didn't contact each other to provide for test lead attachment. I don't remember the brand of grease being promoted (some esoteric thing), but they compared several and theirs had the best conductivity (but it wasn't a lot - enough to mess up sensitive equipment and maybe be a risk for higher voltages or frequencies). Most had little or none, just like the dielectric grease they tested. I pretty much only use the messy stuff where electrical code requires and similar situations (such as the copper connections in my barn breaker panel - a non-controlled environment causes a lot more oxidation, but I may reconsider as I was in there last summer and a lot of dirt has stuck to the grease).
How's she goin'? This looks like good stuff Steve. Being conductive can be a plus for sure. The main thing is to keep the air off the conductors or terminals and this sure looks like it will do that job!! Thanks a lot for sharing and take care!!!
Your test at 16:20 shows that Ox-gard is non-conductive. Therefor Ox-gard is a dielectric grease. So the advantage of Ox-gard is just price. What am I missing?
Good question Doug . Dielectric grease prevents conductivity. This product does not but the test I did only showed its not as conductive as a solid piece of copper at micro volts from a DMM . So the difference between the two is exactly as stated , it's conductive but at real low voltages you would not expect the same results as one would at higher voltages. At low voltages or high voltages the price from what I see is a bonus. Cheers 👍
@@SteveRobReviews some greases are non-conductive (ie insulators), like silicone break grease or silicone dielectric grease. Probably ox-gard is non-conductive, based on your video as it doesn't seem to conduct when the two conductors are not pressed together. Pressing two pieces of metal together creates a circuit because the grease is displaced at the metal surfaces. The metals conduct the electricity.
I suspect that - as you say - it's non conductive, because conductive grease will show up in an ohms test - even with probes an inch apart. One way to test whether it's semi conductive though (as ol' mate claims) , would be it use an insulation (or Megg'o meter) tester on it.
The manufacturer says Ox-Guard is embedded with zinc to improve both electrical and thermal conductivity on high power crimp connections and stud bolt mountings. I suspect that when connections are tightened down, the grease is squeezed out and the zinc particulates can make direct contact between the metals. In a thick blob there is probably enough grease to keep the conductivity low or non-existent.
You got me sold Steve. As soon as I run out of my two tubes of dielectric greases which for me is a 20 year supply I'm getting some of that ox stuff. haha Good info!
I have never seen the Dielectric grease in a cheesewiz tube like that before. All I have ever seen is the stuff in a tube like the GB stuff. I usually use what ever I can Strategically Transfer Equipment to Alternative Locations from the plants I work at. I will have to see about getting some of this. I forgot that you were a watt wrangler. Do you know if they sell a bucket of ohm's?
I have no idea how you can claim that it's conductive, and in the same vid say you're not worried about it shorting across in multi prong plugs. It's either conductive or it's not, and I think you proved that it's not. One way of properly testing it though, ( as I see you've claimed in another comment that it might be conductive at higher voltage), would be to use a Megohmmeter (or insulation tester) and test it at 250, 500 or 1000 volts.
@@SteveRobReviews hey Steve never get any notifications I have to hunt for your channel not exactly hunt but the question here is it a conductor of electricity well if you list them in order silver number one copper gold, then zinc so it’s right there where is your answer zincs number four cheers
@anthonysova7117 Hi Anthony , it's conductive but one would only see it at very high voltage , low voltage it's pretty much inert as regular die-electric grease but at a fraction of the price. It must be a setting at your end , check your settings . Cheers 👍
Maybe the price problem is a Canada thing. Never been a problem for me in "the lower 48." Use dielectric grease on light bulb bases. Don't use Ox-Gard there unless careful not to get it between the tip and ring contacts. Don't use Ox-Gard where you want clean - the graphite and metal particles in it make a mess. I prefer dielectric grease on my flashlights.
Looks like a good product. When have in electoral field différant products and I still have somewhat of an inventory in my garage but this one looks to work great and if it work great I say it’s a buy for sure. Thank for showing it to us......CHEERS
I’ll be honest with you Steve, if I ever use dielectric grease in my life I will be the guy going crazy with it lathering it on without a care in the world 😂. Thanks Buddy!
well Steve as an HD certified mechanic im on the fence about using Anti-Oxidant Compound on a light bulb base (seen too many shorts from this over the years) Being conductive can be a plus for sure, for battery terminals or places where your positives and grounds are separate all good but where your positive and negative are close together I would use dielectric in those areas so there's a propose for dielectric as well play safe don't be sorry sure it will work for a well but the bigger chance you may end with a short because of it, (and its hard to find when it happens) just my opinion
Good tips bud , ever situation needs a good think before applying anything. 👍👍
Other than my concern about Ox-gard flowing in between switch contacts, I suspect Ox-gard a better choice. I once found an old tube of dielectric grease that had some solidified portions inside of it. Ever since then I figured Ox-gard was better option.
Thanks for the heads up about this product Steve. I ordered myself a tube for a coming project.
Hi Lloyd
Take care bud 👍
Wouldn't there be a benefit of being non-conductive for situations like a trailer connector where the pins/plugs are in close proximity and you don't want the connection pins/plugs to be bridged?
Interesting point but in reality most use dielectric grease , the non conducting type and use it liberally at connection points to the point where the contacts are blocked by the grease . This type I showed is not conductive like a copper wire as I showed with the dmm. I would rather have conductive grease than non conducting anytime. Do you want a good conductive connection that's protected by the grease or non conductive ? depends on the location and whether your improving a conductive connections or you want a non conductive connection.
Seams like a nice product! And we know how our winter salty roads has effects on our automotive electrical!
Thanks for showing Steve ✌
Hi Marc
Ant the price is right 👍
Your preparation, props, presentation and production are excellent as always Steve. Those four flat trailer connectors corrode fast and badly. I'll have to try this stuff on my utility trailer, on the connector but also on the mixed bag of aluminum and copper wiring all over it
Hi Bruce
The 4 "P"s of filming eh :) Thanks bud👍
I was looking at a tube of that stuff last week and was thinking about giving it a try... Im definitely going to buy some now. It will work wonders here in Nova Scotia with the salt air that gets into everything. I can see it really being useful for a lot of what I do. I have to put a new trailer connector on my vehicle soon, that stuff should help it last longer. All of the harness connections on my tractors. I'm building a list of uses in my head now 😉
It's awesome stuff , it's all I use now 👍
Im going to be adding 4awg copper line in same line set as a aluminum line set on meter base and this seems to be the best solution.
Interesting. Never used that grease. Butter it up! I never to that.
Hi Papa
You definitely need to start using it then. !!!
Being conductive does seem to be the biggest benefit (well, that and the price) 😁👍
Hi Dave
Yes absolutely as I require more conductive instead of non- conductive. I bet the price in your area is 1/2 what I'm paying :)
Never disappointing Steve. I need some of that on my truck battery connection.
Great idea Kenny. Thanks 👍
To test the conductivity requires pressure because the particles...
I'd like to see that test , doesn't seem much different than the regular stuff but at a much lower price.
@@SteveRobReviews Yup, I don't think it is much different. Petroleum oil and greases are naturally non-conductive. Adding the particles doesn't do much because the particles do not necessarily contact each other. But when pressure is applied the grease is displaced (which is why dielectric grease works on your starter battery terminals) and the particles can get captured by the pressure and potentially increase conductivity.
The only test I've seen was years ago when I worked for Hewlett-Packard. The grease was applied between two glass surfaces and a lot of pressure applied. They used some copper foil contacts on opposite ends so they didn't contact each other to provide for test lead attachment. I don't remember the brand of grease being promoted (some esoteric thing), but they compared several and theirs had the best conductivity (but it wasn't a lot - enough to mess up sensitive equipment and maybe be a risk for higher voltages or frequencies). Most had little or none, just like the dielectric grease they tested.
I pretty much only use the messy stuff where electrical code requires and similar situations (such as the copper connections in my barn breaker panel - a non-controlled environment causes a lot more oxidation, but I may reconsider as I was in there last summer and a lot of dirt has stuck to the grease).
@@Sylvan_dB Thanks
How's she goin'? This looks like good stuff Steve. Being conductive can be a plus for sure. The main thing is to keep the air off the conductors or terminals and this sure looks like it will do that job!! Thanks a lot for sharing and take care!!!
Yes exactly Mike, your quite familiar with electrical .
Your test at 16:20 shows that Ox-gard is non-conductive. Therefor Ox-gard is a dielectric grease. So the advantage of Ox-gard is just price. What am I missing?
Good question Doug . Dielectric grease prevents conductivity. This product does not but the test I did only showed its not as conductive as a solid piece of copper at micro volts from a DMM . So the difference between the two is exactly as stated , it's conductive but at real low voltages you would not expect the same results as one would at higher voltages. At low voltages or high voltages the price from what I see is a bonus. Cheers 👍
@@SteveRobReviews some greases are non-conductive (ie insulators), like silicone break grease or silicone dielectric grease. Probably ox-gard is non-conductive, based on your video as it doesn't seem to conduct when the two conductors are not pressed together. Pressing two pieces of metal together creates a circuit because the grease is displaced at the metal surfaces. The metals conduct the electricity.
I suspect that - as you say - it's non conductive, because conductive grease will show up in an ohms test - even with probes an inch apart. One way to test whether it's semi conductive though (as ol' mate claims) , would be it use an insulation (or Megg'o meter) tester on it.
The manufacturer says Ox-Guard is embedded with zinc to improve both electrical and thermal conductivity on high power crimp connections and stud bolt mountings. I suspect that when connections are tightened down, the grease is squeezed out and the zinc particulates can make direct contact between the metals. In a thick blob there is probably enough grease to keep the conductivity low or non-existent.
@jjones2582 👍
Whatever you do don't squirt that on a multi pin connector.... or there goes all your resistance values out the window
Not sure it would affect much unless you goober it on so much the contacts don't contact :)
You got me sold Steve. As soon as I run out of my two tubes of dielectric greases which for me is a 20 year supply I'm getting some of that ox stuff. haha Good info!
Hi Glen
You will be good for at least 60 years then :)
I have never seen the Dielectric grease in a cheesewiz tube like that before. All I have ever seen is the stuff in a tube like the GB stuff. I usually use what ever I can Strategically Transfer Equipment to Alternative Locations from the plants I work at. I will have to see about getting some of this. I forgot that you were a watt wrangler. Do you know if they sell a bucket of ohm's?
🤣 a watt wrangler ftom way back. Take Care Billy
I have no idea how you can claim that it's conductive, and in the same vid say you're not worried about it shorting across in multi prong plugs.
It's either conductive or it's not, and I think you proved that it's not. One way of properly testing it though, ( as I see you've claimed in another comment that it might be conductive at higher voltage), would be to use a Megohmmeter (or insulation tester) and test it at 250, 500 or 1000 volts.
It's not so conductive as to cause a short . Depending on your use it's simular to dielectric non conductive grease.
@@SteveRobReviews hey Steve never get any notifications I have to hunt for your channel not exactly hunt but the question here is it a conductor of electricity well if you list them in order silver number one copper gold, then zinc so it’s right there where is your answer zincs number four cheers
@anthonysova7117 Hi Anthony , it's conductive but one would only see it at very high voltage , low voltage it's pretty much inert as regular die-electric grease but at a fraction of the price. It must be a setting at your end , check your settings . Cheers 👍
I use permatec electric grease, never seen that stuff , the grease works great. Interesting steve.
I've switched to this as I do use quite a bit . Something different to consider. Cheers Jason.
Not seen one of your vids for ages good to catch up
Absolutely 👍
Maybe the price problem is a Canada thing. Never been a problem for me in "the lower 48."
Use dielectric grease on light bulb bases. Don't use Ox-Gard there unless careful not to get it between the tip and ring contacts.
Don't use Ox-Gard where you want clean - the graphite and metal particles in it make a mess. I prefer dielectric grease on my flashlights.
Yes absolutely the prices and selection are much different than in America.
Looks like a good product. When have in electoral field différant products and I still have somewhat of an inventory in my garage but this one looks to work great and if it work great I say it’s a buy for sure. Thank for showing it to us......CHEERS
Hi Gator
A great brand too . Cheers 👍
I’ll be honest with you Steve, if I ever use dielectric grease in my life I will be the guy going crazy with it lathering it on without a care in the world 😂. Thanks Buddy!
Hi Doug
Lathering it on is the best part :)
Is this better than dielectric grease for battery terminals?
@@vaughnwesterby5162 I would say definitely as the cost is much less and works exactly the same.
Gotta get me some of that 👍👍
It's awesome stuff .
Works on starter grounds and pos+ connections? Looking for a solution for my 1986 kawasaki X2 jetski i ride saltwater
This product does not wash off easily.
@@SteveRobReviews thanks for the reply and great review
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Hey Norm I bet the flies are nuts , I'm at the camp , horrible this year.